Saturn in Sagittarius - Sadhguru vs. Joseph Goebbels

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[@MsMizz1]

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[@VicDiCaraAstrology]

Thank you MsMizz

[@MsMizz1]

@VicDiCaraAstrology My pleasure. The presentation of your work is comprehensible in a way I don’t see often on this platform while the integrity of the information is maintained. That’s much appreciated. I hope the algorithm starts working more in your favor 🙏🏾 and maybe I’ll see you on the astrology podcast one day 😊

[@tattianasalles3019]

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[@Ideasandspirit]

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[@VicDiCaraAstrology]

Wow, thank you

[@paradisebird7196]

It is a very interesting analysis of the planets in Sandhi, Kethu (malefic) in the ascendant and the effect of Kala Sarpa Yoga (sometimes questioned) . The fact that the planets are above the horizon or below the horizon I don´t think has an effect on the “good” or “bad” tendencies of a person, It s in any case a general perspective. Despite the similarities of the planets in the signs, there are very important discrepancies of the planets by houses. Let's analyze in a simple way: In Sadhguru the Moon in Capricorn is comfortable in the 2nd house, while in Goebbles the Moon in Capricorn is in the harsh 6th house (a bad place for the soft Moon according to Phaladipika). The benefic Jupiter/Venus conjunction in Libra is in the tough 3rd house (badly placed too) in Goebbles, while in Sadhguru it is in the 11th house where all the planets perform well. In Summary Goebbels has all his benefics misplaced and Sadh Guru has all his benefics well placed. Now lets see the Malefics: Goebbles triple angular conjunction (Sun, Mercury, Mars) is dominated by the malefic Mars in Scorpio in Ruchaka yoga, while Sun and Mars are opposite to their Dig Bala (bad position), while Sadhguru's triple conjunction is situated in the benefic sign of Virgo and dominated by the benefic Mercury domiciled and exalted in a Bhadra yoga, Mars and the Sun has dig bala (good position). Another not minor detail is that Sadhguru has only one malefic in trine houses while Goebbels has two malefics in trine houses (houses which govern the intelligence): Kethu in the 1st house and Saturn in the fifth house, being in the same element they influence each other ( in a bad way), this added to the fact that Mercury malefic by conjunctions is in angular position respect to the nodes (all at 1 degree from their respective sign, exact squares) and in a Sarpa Drekkana further complicates the situation towards: mental perversion tendency. We dont have to forget the other planet indicator of the mind: the Moon in a bad place (6th house) for so Mercury has also a bad foundation in the emotional mind. In Sadhguru the situation of Mercury is more flattering because is in Bhadra Yoga, fortified by the positions in its own sign, in its Karaka house (10th house). We cant deny his intelligence. However, "not everything is pink" regarding Sadhguru, especially for having 3 malefics in angular houses (Sarpa yoga), Mars and Saturn are in mutual aspect between houses 10 and 1. Therefore, some questions can be deduced about his intelligence (1st house) and acts (10th house). When the Ascendant and Saturn are in such a close conjunction (exact) the intelligence (at least the superior intelligence indicated for the 1st house is damaged) especially being Saturn the lunar depositor and suffering those malefic aspects which also hurt the Moon. Moon is also in Capricorn (detriment) affecting Saturn placements in Sagittarius and in the ascendant to. Although Sadhguru has done good things in an effective and intelligent way, and that is undeniable, he has a dogmatic and even violent approach in his political and ideological positions: Vasudev (Sadhguru) has spoken in favor of the 2019 Balakot airstrike, the introduction of a comprehensive GST, and the Citizenship (Amendment ) Act, 2019, while denouncing the Thoothukudi protests as a peril to industry. Vasudev accuses leftist liberals of aiding and abetting militancy in Kashmir and has suggested that Kanhaiya Kumar and Umar Khalid, known for their involvement in the JNU sedition row, should be put behind bars. His understanding of politics and history has been repeatedly questioned. All this in a bird's-eye analysis without taking rulership or tangencial elements in consideration, although the chart would have to be analyzed in more detail.

[@SusanHopkinson]

Also, the "beneficial" things that he has done are good for PR but not for the environment. The planting of millions of trees was a great - apparently noble - stunt, but not helpful and potentially detrimental according to environmental experts in the region. Also, after spending years telling people not to bother with temples and symbols, he built this mega-AdiYogi Shiva statue which was originally intended for the US ashram, but now sits in a former farmer's field across from the already large Isha ashram, encouraging visitors and followers alike to come to a place that is an elephant corridor and fragile ecosystem which was previously very simple and now boasts ice cream stands and its own post office...

[@paradisebird7196]

Didnt know about that Susan, I have even less respect about that Sadhguru bluff by now, thank you for the valuable information. I also just discover a Channel in youtube called Cult Victim Union which talk about all the Victims of the Sadhguru Isha foundation, Is an interesting site to take a look at.

[@jswjanjan]

Saturn in Sag here - teacher of yoga and meditation, singer/songwriter. Majored in philosophy at Uni.🪐♐️🎶

[@kasiakwasia9036]

Sadhguru if u listen closely what agenda he is selling now is not a good guy... Ty for Your work. Saturn in Sag Kasia.

[@lynnequity7296]

Completely agree. I am shoked that 2 great teachers, both Vic and Gabor Mate, but hey, who am i to judge? I could be the a**hole

[@SusanHopkinson]

@@lynnequity7296 Gabor Mate is new to the spiritual arena and so not likely to be discerning. Although Vic feel for ISCKON before, I would have expected more discernment there.

[@RippleDrop.]

What is he selling?

[@bethbartlett5692]

BTW, @ 08:20 (Until Pluto Transits over 10th H Sagittarius (back in 2004, 05, 06, ..., post Radiation, Graves Disease symptoms) This was a chapter and led to my Awakening, (Pluto ... Transformation) the new chapter began when Jupiter Dasa began +/- That Ra dasa was a pickle ... Mercy (Ra in Libra, on the line of 7th to 8)

[@OoooshetriesSs]

Vic as someone whose still at a loss when it comes to Vedic, u have been a LIFE SAVER when it comes to breaking down these placements! I have this in my 2nd House (along with Neptune & Uranus) My Jupiter isn’t in the best condition either, being in the 8H Gemini (This could explain why I’ve struggled so much w/finances) Ur videos have been incredible helping me figure out my karma & the things I need to focus on in this life. Can’t thank you enough 💗🙏🏻

[@paulaamero]

Your clarity is awesome.

[@sujata_155]

1 more to go, can't wait for Saturn in Aquarius ♒

[@Caezarsworld]

So crazy Sadghuru is my role model! Life has been interesting with this placement. Maybe I have been misaligned in discipline becuz this placement seems to bring delays and frustrations whenever traveling. I have many stories about trying to travel 😂 always seemed to be some sort of hiccup. But yes I can’t stop searching for truth, it seems to be my destiny to share my wisdom. But I have had misfortune with maintaining stable finances, even with Venus in Taurus (2nd house) I’m Aries ascendent in Vedic, so trying to figure it all out while figuring out how to pay rent to 😂 it’s been tough. Jupiter in first house Aries. Mars exalted in Capricorn 10th house. Saturn Neptune and Uranus conjunct in 9th house. I’ve switched religions about 10 times 😂 before realizing they’re all esoterically the same concept

[@tattianasalles3019]

Libra Ascendant. Saturn is in the 3rd house in Saggittarius. Jupiter is in conjunction with Mars in the 8th house in Taurus.

[@whiteshoshanim]

No wonder I am deeply into explaining the law of attraction with quantum science etc. That's my passion.

[@EL14411]

Wow! Amazing content. This really helped me to understand my Saturn in Sagittarius!

[@vanessaandreatta9098]

Saturn retrograde sag 1st house😎. I also have Jupiter in Aries and Pisces moon. I feel very close to the Che thinking habit. I did volunteer in a Hospital in a 3rd world country in a very small village in my Saturn mahadasha. Love poetry of course like the Che

[@blinky7046]

I also think it's interesting that in Sadhguru's chart the planets are mostly in houses that mesh well with them whereas the opposite is the case for Goebbels.

[@preciousnunique]

Saturn in Sag in tropical zodiac. This is not me. I am definitely Saturn in Scorpio even though I wish I was Sag, it sounds less exhausting.

[@amandairedale706]

Love these descriptions of planets in signs. Looking well, Vic.

[@miguelangelmejia00]

Thanx Vic, you got a great style of interpretation.

[@justmylife777]

Saturn in saggi...2nd house....vargottama

[@rastaltu]

shouldn't there be a disharmony between restrictive/subtractive nature of Shani and expansive/open minded nature of sagittarius? like having a conservative/mainstream accepted approach towards philosophy, religion, etc? maintaining the old ways vs inclusivity and globalism.. feels like Shani is not very comfortable in fire signs altogether. will appreciate any help of understanding this a little better. thank you for teaching!

[@SusanHopkinson]

This is fascinating! Thanks 🙏🏻 I’ve been to Isha in Coimbatore twice and have seen through some of the “everything is great” image. Sadhguru’s doing a lot of good work no doubt, yet it’s a bit tainted by the mysterious death of his wife back when there were only a handful of people in the inner circle, which he explained away by saying (literally, publishing these words!) that a person who is ready decides to leave the body by removing the jewellery they are wearing which otherwise weighs them down and keeps them in their body. 🤪 There was another woman involved at the time, and the wife’s family never got the answers they were looking for as the body was cremated by Sadhguru himself before they arrived despite them asking him not to. There are a lot of mixed up ideas in some of his teachings and if you listen closely, he speaks with disarming authority about subjects and “facts” that are questionable. Years ago, I saw him on an NDTV debate (posted on KZbin, since removed for some reason - there is a lot of cleaning up done online around anything negative about him) with reputable Vedic scholars and Swamis. He boasted dismissively about never having read the Gita, or any other significant text (dubious but not impossible) as a spontaneously enlightened person. Yet soon after that Isha started to organise massive (highly lucrative) events around Krishna, who had hitherto not featured in his teachings. When Covid struck, he left India and did a motorcycle tour of the US - very peculiar for such a prominent figure at a time when we were all being asked to avoid travelling.

[@SusanHopkinson]

Here’s a good example of how he operates when pressed for clarification: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXbSkJZpoLKigdU

[@1ACL]

He's a dangerous cracked pot, speaking out of his a** about topics he knows nothing about.

[@ronaldronaldo984]

Yea, that guru is suspicious, I wonder why clash of scepticism (sat) and ideology/belief (sag) wasnt mentioned by Vic, I think this placement should have some weird permutation anyway, by default. BTW as far as I remember Goebbels had lack of personal belief/confidence and doubts sometimes.

[@arien_000]

It's funny how Sadhguru haters have to have elaborate comments to prove he is not a good guy in a lot of videos. Even videos like this one which even shows how he is a good guy base on his chart. Give it break. You may think it's ur freedom to talk shit about other people but at least if you can't like the guy, at least find another way to be productive. Freedom is not simply about doing what you want to do. It's freedom to say yes even to difficult people and things because it's the right thing to do. And it's freedom to say no even to yourself when you clearly know ur just being malicious or biased or compulsive.

[@1ACL]

@@arien_000 this is just one astrologers interpretation of his chart. And I question that, too. Its OK to be sceptical of people who set themselves up as know-it-alls.

[@witlove4510]

Also yogi bhajan is a Shani in moola native

[@gangapoornima]

Great Video VicJi, thank you !

[@Kam-vz4yo]

My Saturn in Sagittarius is conjunct Uranus

[@ilduce5374]

Mine to in the 5th house

[@Kam-vz4yo]

@@ilduce5374 Nice! Mine is in the 4th

[@ilduce5374]

Ahhh Virgo ♍️ ascendant

[@ilduce5374]

You for more fire placements?

[@Irene.Era.]

Same here😊

[@MrAdriancooke]

I think I should have been a monk

[@mercurious6699]

this is fascinating, thank you Vic

[@RaviKumar-pg5ty]

Curious for Saturn in Aquarius!!

[@PedraamJam]

It resonates with me !! I dont have it.

[@nsssm6]

I have saturn in sagitarius in 4th house

[@critterkarma]

Curious, as someone with Saturn in Sag (5th house), in your examples of people with this position…… only two women, musicians. Hmmmmm

[@RippleDrop.]

Looking at charts I have, there's no resonance with this. Everyday people have a different impact, I'm sure.

[@VicDiCaraAstrology]

Please give us an example of one such chart, with a short description of the native, relevant to not-vibing with this sun in 12 prediction.

[@PedraamJam]

Oh sure! Sahdguru is a good guy who would doubt that??? I would. I DO!

[@lynnequity7296]

Sorry, i have never seen Sadhguru as a good guy. We will see...

[@lalitha2667]

🙋‍♀️ me too

[@Jmurch17]

Saturn in Sag 8h😊

[@INNIMA]

👍

[@samitaseal7815]

Is it the sidereal or the tropical sagittarius, that you talking of?

[@krinka1458]

Yay! Ty (contrary to popular belief, Michael Jackson's birth time was confirmed by his birth certificate, according to his uncle, and grandmother. The time is 7:33, if I'm not misremembering)

[@mazaltawab9360]

So are people with dominant ketu always bad or unstable?

[@Agmili]

Sir can you please share sadhguru's birth date. It will be very kind of you

[@arien_000]

It's funny how Sadhguru haters have to have elaborate comments to prove he is not a good guy in a lot of videos. Even videos like this one which even shows how he is a good guy base on his chart. Give it break. You may think it's ur freedom to talk shit about other people but at least if you can't like the guy, at least find another way to be productive. Freedom is not simply about doing what you want to do. It's freedom to say yes even to difficult people and things because it's the right thing to do. And it's freedom to say no even to yourself when you clearly know ur just being malicious or biased or compulsive.

[@rosanilebron1566]

Very interesting...I know very little about Jyotish, but I ordered my chart through Vic's website. I'm starting to learn about it and is very interesting. About Sadhguru, I have very strong opinions about him that I'm going to keep to myself. Hope his followers don't come to this comments section and begin their crying babies defense war.

[@jamesrmosbeyii1122]

I could only hope to fulfill some far reaching goal.

[@mightytaiger3000]

sadhguru is bff's with klausschwab and has used "spiritual" angles to promote depop ulation, so don't be so sure about his benevolence in comparison to someone like Goebbels.

[@tomaszmielcarek]

I have been many times in ISHA. It is lovely place, food, yoga, calmness etc but Sadhguru supports VAXX so He supports system hence I am away from that time. Where is your freedom Sadhguru??? We should have a choice but not being forced to take or not to take. If I wanna I will take . So ....Shiva is after freedom and rebellion and for sure SHiva is not after "system". SO white and black ??? Is only in duality, and you must go beyond it. So everyone who is born in here has some karma , so the same is with Sadhguru. There is no good or bad, it is only DUality. I respect Him but since He supports VAXX I am not following Him. I am after freedom. Shiva...And above all AUM Namah Shivaya is above any birth chart.

[@SusanHopkinson]

The food and infrastructure are both amazing, but the teachings are dubious

[@LedZepp1109]

All this arguing about sadghuurui or whatever I’m an unironic Goebbles fan. The nazis were on the right side of history+good.