Satya Nadella: Microsoft's Products Will Soon Access Open AI Tools Like ChatGPT | WSJ

Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella discusses the company expanding access to OpenAI tools and the growing capabilities of ChatGPT at WSJ’s Journal House during the 2023 World Economic Forum.
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[@pathaleyguitar9763]

This man is a master at eloquently not answering questions

[@how-to-use]

Didn't do it masterfully because is quite apparent what he is trying to do

[@dennislubbers4614]

The host did not looked well prepared. Or at least was not at all critical.

[@how-to-use]

@@dennislubbers4614 He's been provided with the details of his job limitations before the interview. He must have been worried about his job more than the job of humanity.

[@GrumpDog]

Guys like him love to ignore the real problems... by saying extremely shallow stuff that sounds good, but doesn't actually say anything. The job displacement issue for example... these rich guys always say "it'll create new jobs".. but they can never give us any guess anywhere close to what those jobs could be, certainly not enough jobs to actually employ all the people AI could replace. It's such nonsense. They just don't want to admit that AI is proving capitalism isn't compatible with where technology is taking us. The average person will be much better off under a different and new system, whatever it ends up being.

[@tdombui]

you will find that 99% of leadership and c-level executives are masters of eloquently not answering questions - they say almost everything but mean absolutely nothing. Their job is to deflect from the telling the truth or exposing too much. The truth is harmful for business.

[@mshark2205]

I used to be very skeptical of MSFT after Ballmer, but kudos to B. Gates for trusting Nadella. He massively transformed it into a modern, forward-looking company.

[@MrBahjatt]

He turned it into a third party provider. Nothing to compare to the old Microsoft. Ballmer was an MBA made CEO with no vision, and Nadella is another MBA-made CEO who both have a penchant for window dressing rather than creation.

[@jpfister85]

Hugely impressed with Microsoft's trajectory the last few years. Really well-managed compared to their tech peers. Partnering with OpenAI was so smart. We all know Google is going to try to make their own LLM and utterly fail at it.

[@SamuelHauptmannvanDam]

@@MrBahjatt Dude, he has a ba en electrical engineering. Microsoft gives MBA's to all their executives. How are you this wrong? He came up through their server/cloud division.

[@SamuelHauptmannvanDam]

How are you giving Gates credit for Satya Nadella being Satya Nadella. Dude is one of the greatest.

[@kidcasgaming62]

@@jpfister85 Google already has one and is reportedly better than Open AIs. Just look up Imagen

[@shamanic_nostalgia]

I absolutely LOVE how he dodged the question about what AI he knows about that the public hasn't seen yet. Thats super comforting.

[@truthalonetriumphs6572]

I would tell ya, but then I'd have to kill ya 🤣

[@nte5]

Why would he announce something that as a company they have not announced? That would not be a very good thing for a CEO to do.

[@PristinePerceptions]

It's rare to see such talent at sidestepping the important questions. Nadella is a great CEO, but it's also important to recognize that he escapes media scorn due to his eloquence at sidestepping the negatives than some of his more aggressive counterparts.

[@fabp.2114]

@Yoda Pinto Beans Why to India, does the AI live in India?

[@jesusrajaimesbe]

@@fabp.2114 Because it is the biggest English speaker country

[@fabp.2114]

@@jesusrajaimesbe What does language matter in very few years?

[@jesusrajaimesbe]

@@fabp.2114 It matters now

[@jmasked5082]

Yes, but also, he's answering the same questions that were asked during the industrial revolution. 'What happens to all those jobs?' ... 'It doesn't matter, if it's a broad productivity increase, it is net good for humanity.' The difference is that now, it's people with knowledge that will be replaced, not the poor factory workers that the elite didn't care about.

[@vikasvishwakarma649]

Satya Nadella: AI is going to open up new jobs for people. Also Satya Nadella: Microsoft laying off 11000 employees from today.

[@nombre1248]

Source

[@anandt2003]

May be the new jobs in new space(AI and related) and the layoff in legacy tech ?

[@demorvie]

Also, those two statements have nothing to do with each other.

[@andresdellacasa3278]

@@nombre1248 www.nytimes.com/2023/01/18/business/microsoft-layoffs.html

[@CristianmirabalWuno]

Those jobs are moving to cheap countries, American big companies are disgusted of Americans

[@rajmudumbai7434]

Satya Nadella is talking about wage disparity between different categories of workers. If that is agreed as a norm in the society then it should extend all the way to the CEOs as well. There are people who are making earthshaking discoveries and create technologies that transform entire industries and many of them work for normal monthly wages and they have to worry about tenure or being employed. CEOs are not above them.

[@achilleconte4385]

The art of saying something without answering the questions.

[@flowsolo]

mustve taken the same public speaking classes as Zuck

[@unreliablenarrator6649]

Also the art of saying nothing, He did not mention the 10,000 layoffs MS announced Jan 18. Convenient.

[@elsonkz]

These people already have money, they really don't care if other people will lose their jobs.

[@gauravstud]

To quote Satya Nadella's own words at 13:22 "Why is there such a disparity today in the labor market between a care worker and a software engineer........those premiums will adjust" I have one question here " Will that apply to him as a CEO too? What does he have to say about his premium". Shouldn't these companies be also investing into creating a trained AI CEO that can make better decisions than most "human" CEOs. Will make the world such a better place.

[@jeanchindeko5477]

13:48 why is there a discrepancy or gap between your salary as CEO and the developer in Microsoft? That is the same old question!

[@franktfrisby]

This AI is definitely going to create one of the greatest social experiments in the shortest period of time.

[@AjarnSpencer]

it is doing. i just made 4 ebooks in three days on social anthropology. human rights, the fifteen minute city, and socio-politics in Gpt CHAT

[@agatastaniak7459]

Or the largest social meltdown on all levels that humanity never before had to address and most societies have no idea how to adress. Not to mention most world leaders still fail to comprehend that such issue will have to be addressed within merely a few years from now.

[@kukuricapica]

@@agatastaniak7459 It's a enhancement tool. It can't think by itself. So only those who master querying AI to actually make them more effective will be most affected. There are already programs that will know if something was written by chatGPT and other GTP3 AI models. But it will definetly change the way people do work on computer I have no doubt.

[@donnieamz2938]

@@kukuricapica you dont need to master prompts to be able to abuse it. some people just go to third world countries and hire army of super cheap freelancers so they can experiment with prompts. for every 1000 prompts you make, they can make 1 million prompts with the exact same result. anything that is purely software based will race to the bottom

[@avviano]

Adding A.I. to MS products is great! But when will Microsoft add a search feature to Windows 10 and 11 that actually works? I've been waiting for it patiently for the past 22 years...

[@manin4568]

U have something called cortona or something like that... But none usesn

[@TheApeWonder]

Corona? Is it a virus driven search engine maybe?

[@livewire1957239]

Or clean up the poorly designed mess that Teams is. People were using Slack long before 2020. People only started using Teams (grudgingly) when the pandemic forced them to work at home. I think that tells you enough about which product people actually enjoy using.

[@aceravi10]

Even if you wait another 22 yrs , Microsoft/ Nadela is not going to do anything to improve Windows or search

[@avviano]

@@aceravi10 If they can't, I was hoping artificial intelligence can!

[@danbond203]

He is smart and dodge almost all questions

[@AB-wf8ek]

He did answer the questions, you just didn't like his responses

[@danbond203]

@@AB-wf8ek ok, thank you for helping me. Cheers and have a good day!

[@AB-wf8ek]

@@danbond203 Glad I could help clear that up for you 🖖

[@keilansnider1805]

He’s crazy if he thinks tools as easy as this to use will result in minimum wage retail workers will getting raises. It’s just going to make the rich richer

[@kamu747]

The rich will get richer regardless. But the advancement of AI will certainly empower the lower class one way or another.

[@demorvie]

Survival of the fittest.

[@nasifshah5691]

Thats what capitalism is in a nutshell

[@Flux_Zero]

Until ai utilization or training becomes illegal outside of corporate agendas in the name of “safety”

[@unreliablenarrator6649]

@@kamu747 Like the 10,000 staff layoffs MS announced Jan 18?

[@samnazari961]

Meanwhile we are laying off at least 10000 workers…

[@stevengreidinger8295]

He dodged the question. This will evaporate a lot of jobs, and some of the people will be hard to retrain. We just won't need as many people in call centers or to check in patients. We won't need as many people to create commercial art or advertising copy. Under our current system, a big chunk of the benefit goes to the owners of enterprises. They will compete together to lower some prices (good). Government work gets a little cheaper, lowering deficits (fine). However, a lot of people will be SOL and the government will need to help them.

[@evolved9541]

i’m confident the government will adapt. this won’t be happening on a rapid time scale but over decades. as # of jobs go down, calls for redistribution will go up, especially to continue funding consumption of the products and services created by these AI driven enterprises in the first place

[@CHMichael]

The secret is going to give people a positive purpose. .... or they will find a negative one.

[@GrumpDog]

They just don't wanna admit that capitalism doesn't work, once we have AI technology that's getting this advanced. A lot of experts claimed we wouldn't see AI with such general-knowledge, until decades from now. None of them are prepared, and have no idea what possible new economic system will work.. But it certainly shouldn't be one that involves profit and accumulation of "capital", when so many things could soon become automated. lol

[@Ricolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

Don't need 60% of workers with the AI coming this year.

[@shukrantpatil]

A single programmer can do the work of up to 10 programmers , no need for the rest 9 people , companies will get rid of them and keep the single most skilled programmer

[@SaurabhOKumar]

I see that engineers have higher biasness to technology contribution as well as their selection compared to other skilled people from different domains. Engineers are the only ones valued today even to lead the business or corporate than others.

[@mycollegeshirt]

It's like interviewing a seismologist at an earthquake factory, "Do you see any potential earthquakes happening soon?" "Well I was once a boy in Inda, and we had an earthquake, and sure it had a big impact on our community. But the way I look at it, Earthquakes can reveal new minerals and resource deposits, such as oil and gas reserves. That are extremely important to our everyday productivity, did you know That our oil and Gas reserves are diminishing rapidly. In fact, Andrej Karpathy uses Gas and Oil every day? It's something to think about."

[@99dynasty]

GPT3 empowers individuals trying to compete against giants.. it’s been tremendous in helping me get some of my concepts and ideas off the ground as I’m not a software engineer but using GPT3 I have frameworks to use and build off of. Now I only need to hire a couple of people to help clean up the code and I can have a product I would’ve otherwise cost me tons of thousands of dollars to develop. I’m also learning along the way. It’s a beautiful thing

[@jakecostanza802]

Anyone will be able to build a product with a few instructions, in the future. Competition will be so ridiculously high, it will lose its meaning.

[@edcoffeebean]

I'm curious how secure Chat GPT is especially for people who work with critical unclassified information or company proprietary information on their work PCs. My company wouldn't want me asking Chat GPT to summarize meeting minutes if the information is competition sensitive. I can see firewalls quickly being added to prevent access to AI chatbots if there's a potential vulnerability. Imagine the new and improved MS Paperclip making recommendations on how to change trade secret formulas when you didn't ask for it. Is your secret formula out there for someone to mine in a chatbot server?

[@szulat]

you mean how secure is the public demo, where openai employees can review the chats anytime because that's the purpose of a public demo, or how secure is the commercial chatgpt service purchased by your company?

[@metalhamster14]

This issue is easy to fix.

[@blueskiesandgreenpasturesp3848]

Do not put personal identifying information into it .

[@vmooreg]

Satya has such a calming demeanor, yet terrifying people on stage with the reality of the future.

[@iamintricate]

Good to know their perspective. I personally enjoy listening to Emad Mostaque talk about Stable Diffusion and open source. OpenAI and MS will push toward capitalization as its core driver.

[@sanjayshoor973]

Thank you for an insightful interview. Glad to hear Satya mentioning they ( Microsoft) are allowing access to the foundational models for people to build on. 👍

[@AcctistaZ]

He is talking about growing financial gap between working class. He essentially says why don’t we pay knowledge workers the same as manual labour workers (much lower) since we can automate the knowledge work tasks or hire a villager to do it. Again, technologies don’t enrich people at the bottom, but at the top.

[@joaquimkeloglanian4801]

Wow, I have never heard about Satya Nadella until just a few days ago. I find it quite mind-blowing how up to date and humble he is, and regarding his recent investments in OpenAI and his overall vision of artificial intelligence, it is clear to me that he is playing 4D chess.

[@LuisOrtiz-zu3dq]

Bro dudes the CEO of Microsoft xD all the biggest companies are doing the same things except Walmart

[@fabp.2114]

Your impression of him does not speak for you.

[@forloop7713]

@@LuisOrtiz-zu3dq what is Walmart doing?

[@alexhoy]

Lol

[@LarryPanozzo]

It’s just 2D chess, but the pieces are all businesses.

[@mackblack5153]

Why is he avoiding this simple question(the interviewer asked the same question 5 or 6 different ways); give us a little appetizer about what's to come, is it revolutionnary? He giving the vibe that he doesn't know or either he don't want to tell.

[@haraldwolte3745]

Because he wins either way. If it's all hype, he still gets to benefit from the mass influx to his products now. And if there is something amazing up his sleeve, he still wins anyway. So more convenient for him not to be on the record with an inaccurate prediction.

[@pinkisforpimps]

Because he doesn't answer to us or the WSJ. He answers to his board of directors and shareholders

[@digitaldragondamnati]

Would love to see work on using the AI to help train workers on new skills. As someone who has tried online classes learning needs to be improved.

[@davadh]

Yeah, wait 20 years. AI will saw off your hands if they demo any wood cutting machines

[@user_16309]

It’s helping me learn to implement the api. It’s like having a mentor.

[@beltcourse6252]

I agree with you! We’ll see a lot more of AI application in training. Our company is already working on this!

[@jacobrogers2214]

A personal tutor would be awesome. Especially if they're also your assistant and life coach to remind you to take out the trash, review steric hindrance, and call your brother.

[@Ricolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

Be ready to plug-in in a few months.

[@belizarius_997]

This is going to supercharge progress across the globe. What a time to be alive!

[@dennislubbers4614]

Yes!!!!!

[@Zarar5]

100%

[@modelenginerding6996]

They say the average person commits three felonies a day. Also, neighbors now have all the creative tools needed to litigate without a lawyer. Our societies are designed to have a little slop in them, but this is going to tighten things up real quick.

[@avarmauk]

It also has the potential to make hundreds of millions of people unemployed.

[@haraldwolte3745]

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[@Ant3_14]

This guy is ninja. Doges every question he was asked about risk of people being fired.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

just cuz I could do fancy spreadsheets if I also worked at my warehouse job my boss would not suddenly be able to pay me more. Hilarious.

[@vipergx]

AI will make an excellent personal tutor in every field. It's astonishing.

[@jakecostanza802]

Why will you need learning, anyway?

[@rashadarbab2769]

The bigger question is does all of Azure have the compute to add chatgpt to all their products? currently they're already struggling to keep servers up and the amount of compute required for every user on all their products is super high. it takes tens of thousands of dollars per instance and each instance can only handle so many people.

[@dewanfourie9156]

Super excited about the integration of OpenAI into Azure. I'm sure we will see this technology applied in ways we haven't thought possible by significantly lowering the barrier to entry for developers around the world. What a time to be alive.

[@lilbostin5358]

I love how nerds think microsoft is just figuring out AI.. really? They've been using it for literary years... it's just now they feel forced to give the tools they use to their users because of competition. It's like people who think social media are doing their best and care about their users... they're not they don't even allow you to download stuff

[@fabp.2114]

@@dewanfourie9156 This talk is BS anyway.

[@lorebringers]

I am not excited at all. Might lose my job..

[@fabp.2114]

@@lorebringers Then start thinking about how a good future without jobs could look like and fight for it. Because it is easy to imagine how a bad future without jobs will look like.

[@jogo798]

@@lorebringers its inevitable and your resistance is futile.

[@julio10004]

This is so dangerous, to have this level a person think that we can learn from chat GPT. I have been interacting with it and offer my chats as proof and have caught it at incredibly complex mistakes, when pointing he mistakes to it in excruciating details chatGPT would always apologize and when ask the why of the mistakes, asked if I didn't explain things correctly the answer always was that it didn't allocate sufficient resources to be able to answer correctly. If people assume the answers to complex problems are correct without being able to either understand or double check them, we are in for a world of trouble in the horizon.

[@sanesanyo]

It is still very early stage of this technology. Wait for it evolve.

[@priyojitchatterjee6164]

if you are a learning basic information then its as good as any teacher. if you are doing knowledge work then its upto you to audit the response. its an aid not an employee.

[@snailone6358]

@@danielmoore7105couldn’t agree more!

[@seikojin]

It is interesting how as an engineer, I understood everything Satya was getting at. Making the tech available to everyone and evolve it through development to support anyone's desire, not need, to turn it into something they can use. That always has and will come with a cost. It is inherently true. Every epoch shows that advancement has benefits and drawbacks. However, over time, the benefits outshone the drawbacks. Even if it takes longer, the benefits from accessible AI and tools that use them, will be staggering (hence the common references to the industrial revolution).

[@seikojin]

@@danielmoore7105 I mean, if by landfill you mean the same food dispensary everyone else would be getting their food from. With the burden of basic needs automated and free for all, it wouldn't be a thing to even consider worrying about. Move onto more important things to work on.

[@furtim1]

@@seikojin "the same food dispensary everyone else would be getting their food from"?@?!?!!?!?!? Can you please create your dystopian nightmare somewhere FAR away from those of us that wish to live human lives, not be hamsters?

[@seikojin]

@@furtim1 Oh I wouldn't even try to. I would put it out there that SINCE the industrial revolution, this train has been inevitably heading this way.

[@oversmart77]

I'm blown away by the potential of OpenAI and its integration with Azure. Can't wait to see what developers come up with in the near future!

[@Oneness100]

Developers won't come up with anything, OpenAI will, therefor Developers won't be needed. More jobs replaced. Hence, we'll just have CEO's running the company based on AI and everyone else will get fired, all through an OpenAI bot taking over HR.

[@Barkotina]

It's going well...

[@bluetee531]

I've been using ChatGPT and realized that sure it is great and gives you legit answers to your questions. But now, it's gonna be What Questions to ask ? And in what way ?

[@hl236]

Your questions highlights that ChatGPT is a tool. It won't replace you, but someone who knows how to use it efficiently will.

[@AlexanderStraub1]

Top, Satya is such a great CEO for Microsoft, you can be very proud as an organisation to find a clear spoken CEO like him. And somebody who clearly gets it and has a vision.

[@yudhaesap]

I agree with this. The advancement of chatGPT might make jobs become easier. But we also need to consider people whose jobs might be negatively impacted by this technology. IMO, we need to guide them through a proper way of training, encouraging them to start a business, or simply shifting them to the area where the worker is needed. Flexibility to learn new things and adapt, in the current age, seems unavoidable.

[@donnieamz2938]

any job that can be done purely on computer will race to the bottom. you need to be able to get your hands on actual resource in real life because even if AI can automate blue collar jobs, you still have the leverage (the resource itself)

[@PatrickSteil]

Have been doing advanced python and JavaScript programming well beyond my abilities the past few week thanks to GPT and CoPilot. Amazing.

[@vishalkumar040393]

Quite fascinating discussion. Everything asides, I wonder why Microsoft shutdown Microsoft Academia. Given, it was such a wonderful tool for researchers. So, much talk about humanity, growth, and progress on one side and shutting down crucial tools that benefits researchers,

[@unreliablenarrator6649]

MS announced the layoff of 10,000 MS staff Jan 18. Because he is all about creating "opportunity".

[@flyfishac]

I see a lot of the same attributes of Steve Jobs in SN. It’s amazing how the tide has turned. The question about getting organizations to adopt the stack they have is such a critical point in my view. It baffles me that only a few business people know how to create a pivot table for example!

[@dinesh6rpt]

On the surface, it looks like Nadella is dodging the controversial questions/concerns with his eloquence but he is talking with a vision. For answering the hard questions in areas such as energy crisis, poverty, and climate change, faced by 8 billion plus people, we really need help. AI and automation would be playing a key role in answering all these hard questions.

[@777lukeluke]

Question dodger 100% should be a politician.

[@j121212100]

Software cannot do enough for us. Demand soo strong for software I do not see tools automating code generation a threat. The challenge of the software developer is never the code, it is reading through the requirements to get what business owners really mean and want.

[@barbarosozturk]

Loved this! Thanks for sharing.

[@krishnansrinivasan830]

I had a great time watching this Interview :)

[@jeffmorrison2915]

The art of talking without saying anything.

[@missysassypants8133]

A teacher for every student to learn... fantastic!

[@Niblss]

Oh yeah, and the knowledge those students learn will become obsolete by the "teacher" just doing it for cheaper and without breaks. Fantastic indeed. For the people who own the "teachers" ofc

[@clickpath8241]

so both Satya Nadella and sundar pichai are Indians. GREAT thing for India.

[@wesamal6302]

thank you for this great innovation it's really amazing tool

[@jacobrogers2214]

Great talk but the question of labor replacement was handled too lightly. Innovations of the past allowed for greater efficiency and specialization and thus always had another route for workers to move to. Comparative advantage only exists where you have opportunity cost. This is why artificial intelligence is so threatening to work. It can be the best radiologist without sacrificing its ability to be the best mechanical engineer without sacrificing its ability to be the best insurance broker. Martin Ford covers this well in "Rise of the Robots"

[@diigitalname6582]

Agree with you, Satya carefully downplaying. IMO, there will be immediate impact (job loss) in IT domain. Sooner or later it will impact across various verticals.

[@MrKongatthegates]

Doctors will never give up their legal protections. You are discounting how powerful politics can be. And again, if people are able to find services cheaper, and occupations get disrupted, it just unlocks more efficiency which is good. Look at uber. Too many occupations relying on their monopoly and regulations to extract revenues

[@konberner170]

But the burden is on you to address how being super empowered is a net negative. True that if a program can do mechanical engineering better than any human that means a lost job, but it is also an obvious huge gain in productivity. The question then becomes if the efficiency of the planetary workforce is multiplied by 20, what would this do to prices and what other creative things that humans want to purchase from humans. In Star Trek, with their materializers, anyone could have anything cheaply and people were able to do what they wanted, which included exploration and many other things. So, while it is true that individuals must worry about how things will shake out, there is no question that massive increases in efficiency, given free markets, benefit everyone.

[@ritwikchattopadhyay9224]

That should be regulated by govt. And citizens must be aware to chose right people while voting. If people aren't aware n take wrong decisions, that's not t fault of inventors.

[@qnetx]

Ironically, Microsoft just announced plans to layoff 5% of its workforce.

[@rameshg2717]

Basically, even he can be replaced by AI. But, with this tech companies can start and end within months. Banks will be in turmoil, over which business to give loan to...

[@ctex93]

"I will be replacing all of you, please don't be mad at me"

[@NikoKun]

"are we societally ready for that?" No, our society and economy are both not ready for it.. And we can't do anything to hold these technologies back either, as they're already here and will only keep advancing, and likely exponentially. Their existence proves the need for, and demand that we drastically alter how we do things, especially the requirements we place on the individual, for their survival. His answer to that question, seems to insinuate that enough new job will be created by the technology, for things to balance out.. But that never actually happens! Historically most people technology replaces, merely age out of the workforce, rather than retraining for new jobs, but what's happening now will be a much more rapid change!.. More importantly, what even are these supposed "new jobs"? They always hand-wave away those concerns, by suggesting some magical new jobs will be created, but they never give ANY further thought to what those jobs could possibly be! And I'm serious, give it some thought, what possible new jobs could be created by automation, that could possibly employ all the people that automation is displacing?!? His answer simply ignores the problem. In reality that problem demands an answer that likely requires that going forward, we cannot expect everyone to work in a way that will earn enough to survive on! When you strip away everything else, and really get down to what the problem is, now that we have this technology.. It really ends up being capitalism itself, which is no longer compatible.

[@kenlen8029]

I personally would love AI to do more jobs so we can free up our time but I have to agree with your conclusion. Progress for the sake of saying everything is progress makes no sense after you have an honest conversation on how people feel about their day to day lives and jobs. It's just chasing money trying to keep up with everyone else and hoping people come up with good ideas. Many jobs out there now are an actual burden to society, no matter how much people want to pretend it's not the case. And as you mentioned, we know why. I don't know the answer but I'm sure the outcome will be worse than it could have been, due to those same greedy people exploiting whatever they can.

[@priyojitchatterjee6164]

you or the government don't decide those jobs. incoming entreperneurs leveraging the new technologies do.

[@NikoKun]

@Yoda Pinto Beans Agreed, however that's not the only place that should have been preparing for this obvious outcome, an outcome many have been sounding the alarm over for a good decade now.. Colleges and Universities can only do so much, when higher education has become so unaffordable for so many. There are many problems with our society, which have poorly prepared for this, under the assumption things would always remain the same.. how we view education, how we view worker organization.. down to the very requirements we place on an individual's survival, while ignoring the impossibilities imposed on them by a broken system. Likely the most important place that hasn't been preparing, is Politics.. A lot of policies need to change, in ways corporate lobbyists aren't going to be happy about. And as long as we're stuck with "legalized bribery", it'll be that much harder for politics to ever prepare for something like this.

[@hony1717]

the big question is how easy it is to copy chat gpt. chat gpt might be myspace but there will be a fb...

[@thehari75]

very hard to copy sam altman been working on it for years

[@herpderp297]

It's easy to copy social media, the problem comes with convincing people to use it. Which is why there is only a handful of social media platforms that are mainstream. Coming to ChatGPT like AI, there are many barriers to entry which only a few Tech giants can manage to breakthrough. Having said that Google already has AI similar to ChatGPT but they are too concerned with reputational risk to release it. After ChatGPT though they maybe forced to release it sooner rather than later. There are other open-source version of AI Chatbots like ChatGPT. However they are going to be far inferior due to constraints with infra and other resources required to train and run those open source language models

[@moritzgro2442]

@@thehari75 I've been working on it too the last few days. The only thing stopping me is GPU costs

[@byrnemeister2008]

@@danielmoore7105 They are not late. Google has multiple internal products similar to ChatGPT. So has FB, Tencent etc. They just haven’t released yet due to the same issues GPT has. IE it makes stuff up if it doesn’t know the answers. Sam Altman said just a couple of days ago that basic AI will be a commodity that the value will be in distribution and diffusion into products and specialised models for specific applications. Built on top of the commodity AI.

[@drill_fiend1097]

@@danielmoore7105 Plenty of companies have even more resources (GPU server clusters, etc) at their disposal. Amazon and Google wouldn't be too worried. But Amazon has been somewhat bearish on making big news on AI for a few years...

[@danielchristiansen594]

I wonder how long before people realize that AI would make a better CEO?

[@furtim1]

That's not how this is going to play out. The goal is to create a system that even more effectively controls thought than mass media, than social media - but an all-encompassing single AI that will move armies and passions at the whim of its directors. One goal, as he says in the talk - is for ALL software engineers to be leftwing - as that is his ideology and the one he wants inculcated throughout the system. Why? Because the leftwing is the ideology of centralization of power, globalization of its reach, dependency as a way of life, and choosing feelings over knowledge (so knowledge or its pursuit must be outsourced to the powerful). This will end in a dystopia from which there will be no escape.

[@JosefTorkelsen]

Or a better president... Hmmm...

[@steveschiets8031]

Can you link were this was said that Octane will be preinstalled on Ipad?

[@MrMothiram]

Great interview and knowledge sharing

[@DerDudelino]

Microsoft is one of the smartest companies out there and I am very excited for AI implementation into their Office product line. Literally everything you do with Excel, is unnecessary and can be done via an AI prompt. And I can also imagine there is a lot of room to grow for Outlook - it's a system that has a lot of features but is also very, very slow in comparison to for example Apple Mail and all of that can be optimised with an AI optimising load times. Or Powerpoint - imagine a full implementation of both ChatGPT and Stable Diffusion into Powerpoint. I'm totally with Nadella here - it's not going to take our jobs away, it's just going to reduce unnecessary tasks. Think about how much time you spent optimising your Powerpoint presentations from a layout standpoint - an AI can do that in seconds. You still need all the thoughts and informations, you are the one giving the presentation - but you could tell PowerPoint - hey what about a more high-tech layout, and it gives you a variation, thinks about fonts that match and so on.

[@sohailahmed1351]

As a consultant this was the very first use case which came to my mind after seeing ChatGpt for the first time.

[@willwv100]

Excel ?? what's Excel ? ahahhh

[@vivburns9852]

It won't take jobs in the short term, but the exponential nature of improvements in technology means that it won't be long before humans are obsolete in almost every non-physical task.

[@nareshvasishth4034]

@@willwv100 It is called a spread sheet. It can be used as a programming language, It started as a small six factor program. But is now very powerful.

[@furtim1]

With him on his plans for depopulation? On his implementing AI to discourage and prevent the viewing of conservative or "right leaning" thoughts or opinions? On his take that "all software engineering must" be leftwing? On coercing people into changing everything about their lives to satisfy his personal environmental, political, and social visions for humanity (as he sees people as chess pieces, not sovereigns)?

[@kaancan8888]

Question: As we become more dependent on AI assistance, will the cost of using these technologies increase? Or will it remain accessible to everyone like internet?

[@explorerfl007]

Should be affordable and that’s the beauty of software

[@jameezybreezy9030]

OpenAI is already going behind a paywall, and probably soon.. The problem is that even if they make it subscription based for, let’s say 10 dollars a month, it will be too expensive for 95% of the world population. Tools like this have to be free in order to make sure that economic inequality isn’t going to become an even bigger problem…

[@zMichaelz20]

​@@jameezybreezy9030 but imagine it will be free and everybody is using chatGPT as their primary search engine. Who is creating content ChatGPT is using? There is no incentive of creating more content for owners of a homepage if they don't get any credits for it.

[@kirapink80]

@@jameezybreezy9030 stability ai is working on an open source version of gpt

[@xrmasiso]

VERY IMPORTANT. i talk about this in a video i made on the future of work and ai/chatgpt. would love to hear what you think about it. its on my channel!

[@Theone-ou2xt]

"Use these tools to get more leverage" true .Interviewer's questions of how society should prepare for this and company's adaptation of gpt and it's effect in the future were really good and important. I was glad to hear that it will get really good at maths. In my view yes many current types of jobs will vanish but new technology will create new types of jobs and abilities for common people also. As long as AI doesn't gets self aware near towards artificial general intelligence and the benefits are democratized i think it will be good for humanity in general and we will get faster research in physics, biology and all the other fields.

[@OutragedinDC]

Having worked 10 years as an ER RN then getting a CS degree and work as a developer, yeah the money made is vastly different and it doesn’t make sense but it’s the culture in the US that allows this. Both jobs are difficult and not everyone is fit to do either job, but the better thing is to increase the healthcare workers pay not reduce the developers pay

[@santiandres333]

he didnt answer any question, just promoted chatGPT (that btw it is amazing)

[@mynameisawesomeman]

Oh wow, thanks for the deep insight Satya. Amazing that rural indians will now be able to integrate better into government programs and increase the influence of government bureaucracy further. Maybe next time the AI can help farmers manage their GMO seed contracts with Monsanto too.

[@furtim1]

The goal is to create a system that even more effectively controls thought than mass media, than social media - but an all-encompassing single AI that will move armies and passions at the whim of its directors. One goal, as he says in the talk - is for ALL software engineers to be leftwing - as that is his ideology and the one, he wants inculcated throughout the system. Why? Because the leftwing is the ideology of centralization of power, globalization of its reach, dependency as a way of life, and choosing feelings over knowledge (so knowledge or its pursuit must be outsourced to the powerful). This will end in a dystopia from which there will be no escape.

[@jakecostanza802]

@@danielmoore7105 free thinker?

[@mxd8]

for clarification Karpathy mainly uses it for method/function discovery NOT replacing 80% of his work thats such an exaggeration

[@hansolowe19]

Interesting developments.

[@toddwmac]

Great interview and fun to see this next level of productivity innovation coming into the mainstream. All of the hand wringing and doomsday noise is also very familiar. I remember when the same kinds of comments were being made by countless Word Perfect users (mainly "administrative assistants") as the new GUI based tools like Microsoft Word were coming online. The had built their careers on knowing the countless codes needed to format a document and they were sure their careers were over...some were. Then it was WINS and DHCP servers allowing for automated TCPIP workstation deployments that were going to cause network admins to loose their jobs....some did. Next was probably Visual Basic and other graphical development tools that were going to kill off coding as a profession...for some, it probably did. Next it was when we bought Front Page, one of the early graphical web development tools and the HTML coders protested saying that we were making them obsolete....and some were. Then it was server automation, etc, etc. Most don't remember any of these events but they do benefit from every one of them and many others. The lesson here...if you are whining and not embracing, you better up your game or someone else will. Just saying.

[@fabp.2114]

Man, your soul is just dead.

[@saffire3005]

I think all of your examples pale in comparison. Slow and small iterations. In the next 5-10 years, the AI revolution will do for knowledge cost what the industrial revolution did for labour cost. It's a huge shift, and will be open to abuse. Hopefully we can manage it well.

[@fabp.2114]

@@saffire3005 Exactly. We must take care of our communities and share the knowledge, especially the unsettling questions and possible implications that arise. It is possibly the last time humans can change and determine their future on their own.

[@shandor2522]

Not so much. Your memory is as good as mine, but remember, the early days of computer and internet technology required workers skilled in talking to dumb chips. Who expected that gravy train to last? Who thought thet persons would always be needed for repetitive coding? Only idiots. Those with brains and a taste for science fiction already knew machines would eventually take over the drudgery. We always expected help from machines to augment our work efforts. The problem is that corporations like MS ate greedy in the tradition of Bill Gates the monopolist. They need to hook the business world on their services, and not empower them to break away. In reality, machines should indeed take over repetitive data chores, but persons will ALWAYS be needed to keep computers & Ai in line and focused on human needs. Persons will always be needed to stabilize computers and focus them on what counts. Alan Turing called our role that of being “oracles” outside the code. Satya Nadella needs to read more Turing.

[@dpu11]

All your quoted examples reduced the physical efforts put by humans for accomplishing a task.. The new AI revolution not only does that but also handle tasks which need cognitive ability of the human minds.. This can probably make lot of roles obsolete. Even artists, Journalist or attorneys are not spared.

[@bluetee531]

ChatGPT doesn't work when the datasets aren't enough. Take the perfect example. The nepali language, a close cousin to Hindi. Not a lot if Nepali content is posted online, and perhaps not a lot of datasets text , and so when i tell chatGPT to respond in Nepali, sure it does respond but most of the time its jibberish. It also tries turning the language into Hindi

[@idzkk]

next versions will catch up i guess

[@lighteningrod36]

Use gpt3 api and train it?

[@anilsahu5709]

No problem it will involve

[@botsDNA]

This is an amazing video discussing how Microsoft's Products will soon be utilizing

[@patrickdaly311]

Hear what he said about the language translation. Last week, I tested Chatgpt on translating the Surinam dialect (Sranan Tongo) to English. Actually, the other way around. I have tried this with Google translator before with no luck. ChatGpt gave me both the Dutch and Sranan Tongo versions. It automatically recognized that Dutch is the official language and the other was a dialect spoken in the same country. Even though Surinam or Dutch was never mentioned in the query.

[@experimentsclub]

Who is the Indian farmer / what AI project? Any links for more info please?

[@cumoreview442]

I lived in India circa 2012 and there was a Microsoft advertisement on tv that showed what he said.I wonder if he has confused an fictional commerical with a reality. In my experience, most farmers at the level of the man in the ad are illiterate and even if they could use a translater because they speak minority language it doesn't work or isn't accurate. Why would Microsoft spend the time or money on minority languages spoken by a the poor.

[@SaurabhOKumar]

In case of ChatGPT, the question as of now is what highest level of complex intelligence and data constructs is it capable of creating as a whole object or entity unit? What levels will it be generating in the near future beyond the present? And, what levels of complex entity or entities it cannot generate in the long term, both in digital and physical domains like via. 3D Printers?

[@jeremyg9305]

Mimicking, imitating, impersonating. ChatGPT copies its teachers, only its imperceptible from intelligence because it copies from. Millions of teachers all at once.

[@SaurabhOKumar]

@@jeremyg9305 I appreciate that but, if it copies everything as it presents them as refection and simulates the original, rendering every vibe and details of a human imaginable and observable know-hows. So, how are we making it more empathetically understanding for us, our needs and betterment of the diverseness of its own self-understsnding?!

[@uk7769]

There are already users using it with any API, to do anything you can conceive. I keep flipping between existential despair, and excited hopeful amazement.

[@pbreedu]

AI can search the internet and write about national of state level issues which get written about on government websites. However, local news like the new traffic circle is too close to the playground might be harder for AI as it is not capable to walking to the playground and interviewing some parents and children. Not every issue gets a website and that is the weakness of AI reporters.

[@sillydog70]

ChatGPT is awesome a great equalizer and empowering the little guy

[@faro717]

The economic surplus from AI productivity gains is the easy bit...the difficulty is how to address the laggards and losers in the AI revolution...the "redistribution" as Nadella delicately calls it...

[@Pfyzer]

well the losers in the Ai age is going to be the ones who's going to be mad instead of adapt,

[@21berkyx]

radicals will be put down :p

[@kami-neko]

The losers in the AI revolution will be medium-high skilled people - it is very clear. You will not need 10 programmers. Maybe 2 or 3 will do the same job, for example. Teachers at the University level, will be useless (especially since they cannot do research themselves, the postdocs and PhD students do it in practice), so why do we need so many? Etc.

[@fabp.2114]

Yeah, let's adapt to exponential change! Because we can imagine what that means! Oh god, we are so smart!

[@jannichi6431]

God one, pfunny.. imagination and creativity 🌌💓✌️

[@saintblades]

When corporations pretend they are supportive of human beings, when they just care about money, power and control.

[@kessafcapital4949]

Great interview, thanks

[@justparadiso]

OMG this was crazy interesting

[@digvidguy]

Satya is so brilliant!! I wish I could have weekly conversations with him!

[@bmxpepe]

would be definitely fun.

[@furtim1]

If you ever do, ask him to tell the truth...

[@tarapadasarkar3108]

@@furtim1 that is also the talent. Avoiding questions politely and eloquently without upsetting the interviewer or audience.

[@irfanqureshi1671]

I love the way Mr. Nadella Has explained in a simplest way.

[@unreliablenarrator6649]

He did not mention the 10,000 MS layoffs announced Jan 18. Did you love that?

[@waqqashanafi]

He starts every answer with "Look I mean"

[@jenkinssthomson8879]

Nice product shout outs done smoothly.

[@perottosson7998]

Love the man and the company. We have big clients on Azure leveraging Azure Cognitive Services with our Teneo. And as of a few weeks also ChatGPT. The question they are unsure of is the copyright issue. If you train on all of the web you ingest original works. Is the derivative that comes out of the large language model infringing on any copyrights? Legislation is needed to enable the breakthrough in generative AI that OpenAI has made.

[@jimj2683]

That is exactly what human writers do too though. They read and watch copyrighted materials and then use that as inspiration for their "own" works.

[@konberner170]

It does a crazy good job of distilling essence without plagiarism. Which, As Jim said, is exactly what humans do.

[@juleswombat5309]

As a an old software engineer I thought my job was safe from advancing Technologies. But CoPilit and Chat-GPT has demonstrated that many/most junior Software development will be redundant. Only the top 5% will survive the coming AI revolution. Being more productive, means that your boss can employ fewer staff. I am glad I am close to retirement now.

[@badpuppy3]

Your retirement is dependent on the stability of our economy and the rest of us having jobs, otherwise your savings are worthless.

[@tekarthobbyist9598]

As an optimist, I believe this only means that people will now have more time to think of new ways to add value into society.. the reason a lot of world problems haven't disappeared is coz the majority of people are only working to survive by doing the same assigned work that has remained largely the same over a few generations.. humanity always evolves, and with AI around, we will be forced to look for new ways to contribute to society.. and any positive contribution will be valuable

[@countzero7]

@@tekarthobbyist9598 yes like homless have more time to think of new ways to add value to society... only thing ppl replaced by AI and robots gona have time to think about is how to get food and where to sleep.

[@tekarthobbyist9598]

@Count Zero I would debate but theocrafting over Ai's future would make me a wannabe prophet.. seeing as the usefulness of Ai systems is becoming so obvious, we will just have wait and see just how much disruption there will be.. and I will incredibly be surprised if humanity will not evolve to live with it, coz I doubt you and I are the type to just roll over and die.

[@miamitten1123]

@Jules......how could you be that naive to think software wouldn’t replace/evolve.

[@ronhoek69]

As with all technological leaps, on one hand it destroys the old world, but on the other hand is creating a new one. New technology always creates more prosperity. AI will change our world like no other.

[@xrmasiso]

im curious about this point, ron. there might be more to it. i made a video that discusses this.. world destruction is avoidable!

[@sanjios]

Sure, specially for kids working in the gold mines in Africa.

[@kf6pfk]

Don't worry, be happy; we've got your back. The future is bright; we've enabled millions of people worldwide to do your job using AI at a greatly reduced cost. This will be great for business and is the way forward. Look toward Inda for the model of your future.

[@kirantekwani4200]

Yesterday I was learning js and I took help of chat gpt and it taught me wrong concept and it was factually incorrect .when I saw yt tutorial today I realized I learned wrong concept and then I confront gpt and it apologise for mistake 😅 it is like human 😅

[@helix8847]

@James Ohardin Its amazing that it can read a Pattern and give you in return what you asked it... Not really amazing if you ask me. We are not even close to AGI.

[@r.c.l2569]

It’s all about the prompting.

[@progtom7585]

lol... better wages for frontline workers!! the man is hilarious. AI will just entrench existing inequality.

[@Niblss]

oh inequality will decrease.... between the upper middle middle and poor classes. It'll just be even more concentrated on the obscenely wealthy. Blood will flow. People are completely oblivious to this somehow

[@Witcherworks]

Watching this the first movie that came to my mind was Johnny Mnemonic. The first game, Cyberpunk 2077. Nuff said.

[@henkema22]

wow, the hair + the micheal douglas falling down glasses + he looks so different. even a bit like gerald lanier

[@rcrdo]

1:42 Is AI starting to take the jobs of software engineers?

[@alexforget]

AI is going to move so fast it will be hard for big corporation to keep up. Even if they created ChatGPT and have the budget to do the training. This thing will probably disrupts microsoft, google etc.

[@r.c.l2569]

Google is done for. This tech will transform many facets of life.

[@lmPhiladelphia]

Google is catching up. You really think that a giant like Google doesn't have the capacity to train something like chatGPT? We only know about GPT because it was open source until GPT3. Google probably is at the same level

[@ilirllukaci5345]

Are physicists at Microsoft still continuing research on their theory from the spring of 2021, that, in broad terms, the universe, if it is not indeed a Simulation to begin with, will necessarily tend towards behaving as if it were a Simulation? I don't think I imagined reading about that.

[@rishineupane]

brilliant mind , satya Nadela 😍

[@chaseclingman]

dang just realized miscrosoft already has power automate. It will be rather simple to implement AI into that. I can bet it's already a thing to be honest.

[@r.c.l2569]

It absolutely is. Along those same lines, stop and think for a sec about what the gov ment already has. Gpt is what they are allowing the public to use. What they have must be far beyond what’s gone “public”. Food for thought.

[@mattiasjonson7187]

Imagine being scared of skynet you whole life but end up being killed by your Office 365 subscription 😅

[@janesung819]

裝死就好好

[@7jahson]

Used the same analogy @ Davos 23. Consistent responses are usually orchestrated. There's good and bad with every technology. Who will hold the power to weaponize it, is the Trillion Dollar question.

[@adoniasosorio7469]

Astonishing!

[@kenlen8029]

Remember when they used to say this stuff will help free up time for individuals so they can peruse things they are most interested in? lol

[@bigorstojanov184]

Yup, only now they say it will make you an equal to a tech billionares