Sauron, the Lord of the Rings - Epic Character History

[@tombraver6449]

Voldemort: "I am the greatest dark arts master the world has ever seen!" Sauron: "Children have such adorable imaginations."

[@joaquincassagnetezcurra5875]

What about The Senate?

[@naturligfunktion4232]

Hahaha best comment xD

[@brandonchan5387]

Melkor: Know you're roots, simpleton.

[@borismin8703]

Brandon Chan melkor: am I a joke to u?

[@bnktopa]

Lol sauron is nothing compared to the power of the one who shall not be named

[@allaindb1944]

you know what's scary tolkien died in 1973 3 rings for the elven kings in the sky 7 for the dwarf lords in their halls of stone 9 for mortal men doomed to die 1 ring to rule them all

[@normanosborn3181]

oligamer14 oh shit

[@yourpronounsarebs]

Holy Fuck thats scary

[@tumhornkingslayer6411]

Yeah, who cares? Thats a coincidence.

[@yourpronounsarebs]

@@tumhornkingslayer6411 why so butthurt my friend?

[@tumhornkingslayer6411]

@@yourpronounsarebs butthurt? Who cares if the numbers of the ring poem match those of his death date. They're not even in the same order.

[@MuhammadAhmad-pl4sj]

List of Sauron's titles used at some point in the books: The Admirable The King Excellent The Ruler The Smith The Master The Power in Black Land The Great Eye The Lidless Eye The Red Eye The Enemy The Nameless The Master of Dark Tower The Shadow The Black One The Unnamed The Black Master The Menace in the East The Ringmaker The Black Hand The Necromancer The Shapeshifter The Abhorred The Cruel The Faithless The Deceiver The Accursed Sorcerer of Dreadful Power Master of Shadows Master of Phantoms Lord of Black Land Lord of Werewolves Lord of Barad-dur Lord of Gifts Lord of Dol Guldur and of course, Lord of the Rings. Also my favorite from earliest versions : Tevildo, Prince of Cats

[@markkiefer3243]

Imagine having Sauron check into a hotel. Receptionist: "What name is your reservation under?" Sauron: *Booked this getaway 4 months ago and forgot which of his many names he booked under*

[@checkmate9099]

*Daenerys Targaryen has left the chat*

[@justme-iq1kf]

@@checkmate9099 lol

[@JohnDoe-zs6gj]

@@checkmate9099 Damn, beat me to it haha

[@anatoldenevers237]

Muhammad Ahmad and I thought Daenerys had too many titles

[@hectorlopez4407]

1 man wrote this. This is just 1 of the characters in this world. ONE. Tolkien reigns supreme.

[@solomonrivers5639]

Now imagine how empty our shelves would be if Tolkien had been shot and died in a trench during WWI. And then realize how many thousands of stories we never read because their authors DID die in those, or other, trenches.

[@Titantro]

George R R Martin did the same

[@RZ6787]

@@Titantro whats better you think

[@l0necroc]

@@Titantro even tho I've read ASOAIF and not LOTR I still think Tolkien should have mantle of the greatest world building

[@paulusillyriusiudathaddaio2530]

@@Titantro The difference is that he didn't fought in an any kind of trench because he just dogded the conscription to vietnam xd

[@grizzlypork2965]

Sauron: Have you ever heard the Tragedy, of the dark Lord Morgoth Numenoreans: No? Sauron: I thought not; it's not a story the Elves would tell you. Morgoth was one the Ainur, and was so powerful, he could prevent death. Numenoreans: Is it possible to learn this power? Sauron: Not from the Valar

[@craigborth8047]

Grizzlypork lol

[@idonttrustlikethat]

lol

[@hardy2k11]

Lol.....You don’t know the power of THE ONE RING

[@brickdebrick2167]

George Lucas: "jar jar is the key to all of this"

[@shawnthompson2303]

Ummm.... yeah! Basically! Lol

[@concept5631]

The Ring: *gets destroyed* Sauron: *gets violently sent to the void* Morgoth, who was already there: ... Sauron: ... Morgoth: ... Sauron: ... Morgoth: So do you want to talk about it? Sauron: No. Morgoth: Fair enough.

[@z.a.y.n-5053]

Loool

[@concept5631]

@@z.a.y.n-5053 Indeed

[@ironcladstranger4559]

I laughed out loud

[@concept5631]

@@ironcladstranger4559 Good to hear.

[@dylanhazel6797]

I can imagine that 😂

[@Louis-hx8nk]

There could be an entire class over Tolkien's work and I would take it

[@CanadianPratt]

Louis Z we have one at my university

[@chabtheman8444]

David Pratt That's amazing What university?

[@CanadianPratt]

Alexandre Chabot university of victoria! Canada

[@michaelcolan9622]

We had one at my college and I took it, best class ever.

[@randomduck8679]

Michael Colan was it about the lore itself or the language used in the books?

[@joshwaring7772]

Jesus Christ, and this was all written by just one man

[@theoneaboveall6768]

josh waring 1 hell of an imagination

[@sublimetrance]

Tolkien was likely getting his ideas from old secret societies. He was deep into the occult.

[@billmath3630]

@@sublimetrance stfu dumbass.

[@buggydclown8460]

One fucking crazy man

[@craigrbrown]

i just wish i could get into them enough to read them...i enjoyed the movies but i've tried to start LOTR and the Hobbit a couple times and have found it difficult...and I've read Dune 2-3 times and Books 2-4 once...and all of GoT...I love Tolkien's concepts but he is very tough for me to read

[@waynepotter8575]

Sauron takes over the world two times Voldemort failed to take over a school Come on rowling your villian has to be more powerful

[@kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151]

It’s odd when the protagonist of a story calls out their author.

[@waynepotter8575]

@hunter christensen that's what I am talking about

[@darcyliz9993]

@@waynepotter8575 Hello Harry. You're a fan of LotR too. What an interesting fact.

[@waynepotter8575]

@@darcyliz9993 yeah I used to read history at hogwarts

[@darcyliz9993]

@@waynepotter8575 What do you think about Frodo Baggins? Is it true that the Pevensie siblings from Narnia are the real founders of Hogwarts? What's your opinion about JK Rowling? Sorry if I am annoying you. But I think you're already used to Hermione's curiosity and questions so-----

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

Sauron: "Hey, guys? You're all afraid of death? I have an idea: join forces with me and let's all go fight God!" Numenor: "Sounds legit!"

[@GODDAMNLETMEJOIN]

Sauron is congratulating himself for taking out two birds with one stone when he finds himself suddenly not on an island anymore.

[@jeffreygao3956]

Except for the exiles. They guessed this idea...wouldn't work.

[@Narya57]

sounds like Babel lol

[@natedog101591]

As much as I absolutely love the eye of Sauron in the movies. I wish I had more time with him in physical form like in the opening sequence of the fellowship of the ring movie

[@ohauss]

I profoundly dislike the form in the opening sequence. It is more befitting Morgoth and reduces the defeat of Sauron to a lucky strike rather than the joint struggle of the leaders of the free people.

[@ErraticFaith]

His physical form represents his true self, who he was created to be. The eye idea is a diminishing effect to make it more realistic for viewing. Otherwise he'd just be on the battlefield back to back with the witchking. Which is more than any of his opponents could have dealt with. If anything its the other way around since Morgoth was huge magnitudes of power greater than Sauron and would have made more sense as a spiritual or godlike foe. Sauron was barely a footnote of effort, compared to Melkor. The lucky 'strike' is again, realism. That and a mix of trying to enforce the idea of clinching victory from almost certain defeat. As with Melkor, Sauron was blinded by his own ego. Which produced a lack of focus and incompetence in battle. Tolkien knew the reality of warfare well, the movie simply tries to convey it in visual form. Its perfect as it is in my opinion, although featuring more of the physical element to Sauron and his breathren would be apt for a telling of the Silmarillion. Alas its too long and awkwardly structured. That and they have been denied rights by the family. Oh well. Treasure what you have already. Its one of a kind.

[@michaeld.uchiha9084]

Hope we see it in the Lord of Rings series.

[@Freedomforeverall]

Oliver H I like the fact that it was a luck strike. It literally shows Saurons insane level of power.. a level of power that can only be vested by lucky strikes .. kinda like curing a disease through various practices but the specific cure is unknown ... so if it comes back it’s still a great threat

[@timonsolus]

Rainfeather : Melkor was ORIGINALLY exponentially more powerful than Sauron. But Melkor expended most of his strength on creating monstrous life forms like the dragons and trolls. Creating life is the most difficult and draining thing a Valar can do. It cost so much power that Melkor was permanently weakened, and became less powerful than the spirits of the Sun and Moon. Especially Arien, the spirit of fire that was the Sun. But even badly weakened, Morgoth was still far more powerful than Sauron, who feared his wrath.

[@CGFMovies]

Hell, Tolkien’s not wrong. Not every villain starts off purely evil.

[@diggtech]

"One man's villain is another man's hero." -Gul Ducat (Star Trek: DS9) Some villains are heroes of their own story.

[@Jaasau]

Every villain believes they are good. This truth requires us all to examine ourselves and take stock of our own beliefs and actions.

[@Jamac007]

No person is born evil, just ones choices and actions.

[@zkingdom2]

@@Jamac007 only melkor

[@Jamac007]

@@zkingdom2 true

[@goldieberetta]

Homie could flex all he wants, he got destroyed by a couple hobbits.

[@windbag8900]

LMAO love your comment man,that's a sick burn

[@kekedream]

@ralph rama I agree because like Melkor, neither can be truly "killed". Can't really kill a spirit can you?

[@biaklunii689]

Power of plot dude

[@idiosyncraticlawyer3400]

Turin shall deal unto Morgoth a true death in the Dagor Dagorath.

[@vivekwarrier8371]

@ralph rama He's bound in a cell by the Valar at the end of the First Age if I'm not wrong.

[@JustSomeGuyInAChairIDunno]

1 little thing I have issue with: "he had believed that noone would have the willpower to destroy it (the ring), he was wrong". he wasn't wrong though, Frodo did not have the willpower to destroy the ring. It's said that Eru Iluvatar himself intervened and caused Gollum to fall to his doom.

[@daghalfrunt2160]

True. Tolkien's religious convictions informed the decision to have Frodo "fail" at the last moment. In Tolkien's view, only Jesus could perfectly resist temptation to relent to evil desires.

[@someonesomething2201]

I think it was just luck. As written in the Music of the Ainur

[@richcastle6796]

Elrond should have just kicked isildor in the balls and chucked the ring in the fire!!! Job done!

[@at3500]

Rich Castle word.

[@gmkhn66]

@@richcastle6796 exactly what I was thinking. Chuck the fucker into the flames as he holds his ring.

[@MenoftheWest]

Hey everyone, I hope you all enjoyed the video! I wanted to make a possible correction, as I say that Sauron brought the One Ring back to Barad-dûr after the Downfall of Númenor with his spirit, which may be true, but it may also be that the One Ring stayed in Barad-dûr and he retook it after returning there from the Downfall. That point is ambiguous, so I am unsure, but I thought I should point it out! Thanks!

[@isackhernandez3691]

What is third age. Is it canon with Runescape armour

[@GODDAMNLETMEJOIN]

I was always curious about how he pulled that trick off too

[@sanfordwillis63]

It still amazes me that some people claim other fantasy authors can stand toe-to-toe with their works against Tolkien.

[@septicguns7017]

Sanford Willis game of thrones is more interesting in my opinion than lotr

[@deadpool2638]

The elder scrolls

[@aarongeoghegan2161]

Uhhh jk rowelling

[@helioshyperion8077]

@@septicguns7017 u must be very dumb to say that, but i can tell this is your own opinion, it matters not. Tolkiens work is one of the best, everyone who actually knows more about tolkien fantasy world can tell you that he cannot be compared to any fucking game of shit nowadays.

[@nictron99]

There are other good authors that I've read and enjoyed. But Tolkien's mastery of a world from creation including the language, poetry and song does put him in another league. Opinions will differ and that is ok. But all considering I think most would agree that there are few except maybe CS Lewis his best friend that came close to Tolkien.

[@sinthoras1917]

It is canon that Sauron in the third age took a physical form! Once in the Lord of the Rings Gollum describes having seen him and his dark hand having only 9 fingers.

[@virusdotexe1708]

Lord Voldemort you have to look at the time gap in which the films were made . If the hobbit were made first with that scene then we probably woulda seen sauron in lotr

[@virusdotexe1708]

Lord Voldemort i think it mostly had to do with the time gap fron the war of the last alliance and the late third age. Otherwise he had written much about him already it would seem repetitive to put in another story

[@virusdotexe1708]

Because i think if he really wanted to they couldve gave a background based perhaps on gondors archives where theyd have some information.

[@virusdotexe1708]

Lord Voldemort i like to speculate sarumans corruption began when he had went west with the two blue istari seeing as tgere culture revolved around worshiping sauron and saruman was the only one to return from ruin as well as he never mentioned what happened to them. But i also like to believe tolkien left some things out in hos writing for the readers to have there own room for smaller personal stories on those matters because any one legend can be told a thousand different ways it wouldnt mean all of them are untrue to what could have been the possible tale

[@MrEddo89]

I enjoy that portrayal more. Especially when the beginning of the movie, Sauron's physical form with the One Ring was able to be defeated. If he only had a physical form after, his threat isn't as menacing as the viewer can just go, "just go into open combat again and the same could happen". By making his spirit/eye alive and the threat, the urgency of Frodo's journey is more evident. And the idea that he is always "watching" made the journey more thrilling to watch. You need that visual representations in film, in lieu of a backstory/more detail a book can give. The Eye both made him a threat and invincible to the viewer.

[@wellis3891]

Saurons character history is one of my favourites

[@AnnaMarianne]

WELLIS He ties almost the whole mythology together - he's present everwhere, has his hand in everything.

[@ft3060]

did Sauron just pull off the "Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise" on the men of Numenor and suceeded with it ? Grima could learn a lot from him

[@hoo7797]

Grima would never be able to succeed at deception like Sauron in Númenor, because Sauron didn't look like a greasy harbinger of the bubonic plague. (srsly tho, in the books, Grima is often said to be crawling in all fours or hunched so exaggeratedly that he might as well be. And he's usually whimpering like a dog. It's honestly kinda freaky rather than sad)

[@Jostradomas]

Just a point of issue I have at the end, and Im not saying im right, just making an observation. Sauron was correct that nobody would have the will to destroy the ring. Frodo often gets credit with doing so but I point out that in the end he failed to resist and tried to claim the ring for his own. It was golum's intervention that prevented him escaping with the ring, and then golum dies accidentally, also not meaning to destroy the ring. So, at no point does anyone have the will to destroy it, frodo should only get credit with resisting for as long as he did, which is admirable. Anyway, just an observation! Great video!

[@Sawttyy]

Totally agreed

[@Mayakran]

I love the fact that Sauron spent millennia devising his perfect plan, corrupting the minds of the powerful, amassing great armies, and patiently waiting for the perfect moment to strike-only for all of it to unravel because three unassuming halfling creatures *accidentally* destroyed the ring of power XD

[@oblivionsa7973]

@@Mayakran Which never could have happened if he had just spared a few of his tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of orcs to guard the Cracks of Doom, just in case. If that's too much to ask, maybe just a locked gate then? Talk about a boss battle with a completely unprotected giant flashing red weak spot...

[@gucciak-4740]

@@oblivionsa7973 I guess he never could imagine anyone would step foot in such a evil and corrupted place of Mordor but still someone of his power should have taken all measures to guard the entrance

[@valterfara5027]

@@oblivionsa7973 Since the Ring fucks with your mind when you enter with it, I don't think he expected it needed guarding.

[@AnnaMarianne]

Interesting detail: Sauron did regret his past choices when he saw the might of Valinor in the War of Wrath. Tolkien said that this regret was real (even if inspired by fear). However, when Eonwë told him to come to Valinor to be judged, it was too much a humiliation for his pride, and he left them and went to East. There it seemed to him that Middle-Earth, especially the east and the south, were neglected by the Valar, and needed him to arrange them and bring order and wealth to the peoples there. So he begun his projects there and, well, his hand slipped a bit, and after a few millenia he was the god-king of the world, titled the Lord of the Earth and the King of Men. This motive - order and prosperity - had been both his original virtue and the cause of his fall to evil. Because Sauron always thought that the best way to bring these things was through power. Therefore Sauron was attracted to Melkor's power, graviating to his corrupting presence. And later on he assumed the role of a tyrant himself.

[@Hirungolwe]

Here is the Silmarilion quote (chapter 24): When Thangorodrim was broken and Morgoth overthrown, Sauron put on his fair hue again and did obeisance to E?nw? the herald of Manw?, and abjured all his evil deeds. And some hold that this was not at first falsely done, but that Sauron in truth repented, if only out of fear, being dismayed by the fall of Morgoth and the great wrath of the Lords of the West. But it was not within the power of E?nw? to pardon those of his own order, and he commanded Sauron to return to Aman and there receive the judgement of Manw?. Then Sauron was ashamed, and he was unwilling to return in humiliation and to receive from the Valar a sentence, it might be, of long servitude in proof of his good faith; for under Morgoth his power had been great. Therefore when E?nw? departed he hid himself in Middle-earth; and he fell back into evil, for the bonds that Morgoth bad laid upon him were very strong.

[@marksocha9113]

And Melkor also had the goal of order and prosperity through power in mind before the great music of the Ainur when he was alone in the void "seeking the flame imperishable" and was "impatient of it's emptiness".

[@mariomilicki23]

Anna Marianne so basically he had OCD and it corrupted him? 🙃

[@dwightsmith3815]

I think Saurons story and history was actually very tragic and very "human" if you could say so. I believe, if Tolkien wrote out more of the stories of the Silmarillion and we get even more details and depth to the charakter many more people would think so. By the time of the Lord of the Rings it was just too late. He was the dark lord for centuries, his fate was doomed. But in the first age, even in the second age, i don't think so.... Especially in the first age.

[@peepawthecat]

@@dwightsmith3815 I agree he is a tragic villain. He was corrupted by morgoth in a lust for power. He had noble intentions but morgoth's will blinded him. He was initially pure of heart but was corrupted by morgoth's will.

[@beaudowns51]

So Sauron told the Númenoreans the tragedy of Darth plagueis the wise?

[@MrHistory269]

sounds about right

[@KarusMBII]

It's not a story the Elven lord's would tell them

[@shawnthompson2303]

I mean.... essentially, yeah. Lol

[@jamesgodsall2686]

Sons of Gondor, of Rohan! My brothers. I see the same fear in your eyes that would take the heart from me. A day may come, when the courage of men fail. When we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship. But is not this day! An hour of wolves and shattered shields, when the age of men comes crashing down! But it is not this day, this day we fight! By all that you hold dear, on this good earth. I BID YOU STAND, MEN OF THE WEST!!!

[@themadpelican3391]

NERRRRRRRRRRRD! Me too i love it!

[@Vergil_6]

ash nazg thrakatulûk, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.

[@henryollivant5965]

DEATTTTHHHH

[@Relevant_Titan3371]

asriel here sauron is the hero death to the elves and men of the west death to the shire rats

[@AbhiShiro]

Ride for Rohan.

[@Pantheon-with-a-P]

One ring to rule them all. One man to write it all. Thank you Tolkien :D

[@thetwojoes]

Voldemort:"I am the dark lord" Sauron:Hold my ring'

[@jahangir7904]

Morgoth: Am I a joke to you?

[@fenrir-art4742]

Darkseid from DC Comics: Enjoy the fire pits.

[@ameyas7726]

Sauron was defeated by an Elf Lord and a King of Muggles while wearing the One Ring and another muggle actually managed to cut his ring finger off....Voldemort a modern wizard on the other hand can teleport instantly; even Gandalf would lose his sh!t if Voldemort teleported behind him...Voldemort can even fly in the air like an eagle and has a vast range of offensive spells like Cruciatus, Fiend Fire (Dragon Fire), Avada Kedavra (the magically unblockable killing spell, that can split the very soul/spirit) and defensive spell like the dark wall, silver shield/force-field....even an army of muggles, dwarves or orcs couldn't hope to get close to Voldemort..

[@farahahmed8201]

Even the men in lotr are more powerful than Harry Potter's wizards

[@mivvy3182]

Darth Vader: Choke on your spit.

[@matthewmann8969]

What If Sauron was a giant all hearing ear instead of a one all seeing eye?

[@Monkofmagnesia]

Or an all sniffing nose?

[@joeyuzwa891]

All feeling hand

[@robbielawsonguitar6446]

All tasting tongue

[@pingtangcalagan0554]

all eating mouth

[@jolmner912]

All crushing foot

[@MasterMahan-qm8hu]

I can't say enough about your content! Such passion in your voice, your knowledge of Tolkien's world is astounding, the images you use are absolutely magnificent, the music is very beautiful and fitting, such beautiful work you do! I always look forward to these to be transported just for a moment to another world, Happy Holidays to you and a great thanks for all you do, Cheers my friend

[@MenoftheWest]

Boaz TubalCain Thank you so much! Happy holidays, friend!

[@hindsightpov4218]

Agreed!

[@siti_n_i]

For the longest time, i thought sauron was always evil looking.. Never thought he could take a fairer form.

[@gregorymacdonnell7914]

+ilham A Halim ,No sir. He could appear like a fair faced ,wise elf-lord for centuries until the Downfall of Numenor. Like Melkor/Morgoth ,his master,he was able to shapeshift to any form he chose to appear as, and thus was able to decieve the wisest of Men or Elf. Neither of them would have achieved so much mastery without that gift. Sauron was of the same race as Gandalf and Saruman,a Mia(lesser god) of the Valar that they served.

[@ibrahimkayikci2146]

Valar Morghulis

[@jacobitewiseman3696]

You can see the evil in the eyes.

[@Iv3y_Lamar]

Just like Lucifer the Light Bearer

[@jennifer2233100]

he was originally a maiar

[@LovinScott]

Sauron DID have a physical form at the end of the 3rd age....remember that in The Two Towers....Gollum confirms that there are 4 fingers on the Black Hannd.....he would know as he was personally tortured by Sauron....

[@trypticon3293]

Oh finally! I thought I'd NEVER see anyone else say this! I've been telling people that for years, but it seems NO ONE has actually READ the books. The books are full of several quotes like that about Sauron and him having physical form, yet everyone who claims they've read the books hundreds of times tells me that Sauron was just an eye... You and I, my friend, are in the minority now. =P

[@LovinScott]

Thank You......I would prefer to be a minority in this forum anyway.....unfortunately.....most of the people I talk to about LOTR and Tolkien in general......don't know a damn thing except what is in the movies....that is a shame and their loss. All of JRR's works are sort of a hobby of mine.....but it is hard to find someone to talk to who is able to discuss or debate things with me about it. If ever you want to chat....I am at [e-mail].....send me an e-mail and we can go from there.....ttyl :)

[@sage7309]

@@Kingofthehill674 I'm pretty sure he had both in the book. A physical form and the flame eye, whither it be a conjuration or an extension of himself the book describes something similar to that in the movie. The return of the king, book 6, Mount Doom; "So foot by foot, like small grey insects, they crept up the slope. They came to the path and found that it was broad, paved with broken rubble and beaten ash. Frodo clambered on to it, and then moved as if by some compulsion he turned slowly to face the East. Far off the shadows of Sauron hung; but torn by some gust of wind out of the world, or else moved by some great disquiet within, the mantling clouds swirled, and for a moment drew aside; and then he saw, rising black, blacker and darker than the vast shades amid which it stood, the cruel pinnacles and iron crown of the topmost tower of Barad-dûr. One moment only it stared out, but as from some great window immeasurably high there stabbed northward a flame of red, the flicker of a piercing Eye; and then the shadows were furled again and the terrible vision was removed. The Eye was not turned to them: it was gazing north to where the Captains of the West stood at bay, and thither all its malice was now bent, as the Power moved to strike its deadly blow; but Frodo at that dreadful glimpse fell as one stricken mortally. His hand sought the chain about his neck."

[@felixfroning533]

I think The Hobbit movies practically confirmed that theroy, as the necromancer, at least to my interpretation, seemed to be able to physically manifest. Wouldn't have changed by the time of LotR...

[@brandonsavitski]

@Harrison Plazina he only needed his thumb finger to stick inside of Smeagol's / Gollum's butt to torture him.

[@SinceDeath]

I got goosebumps when he said “One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne”

[@MandalorV7]

Merry Christmas. Did not even know Lord of the Rings had vampires or werewolves. There is so much lore that would make a good tv show or movie.

[@hawaiianr6]

Jacob Clark You can thank Amazon for that

[@traezor3753]

It's in the Silmarillion, another book set in Middle Earth.

[@gregorymacdonnell7914]

+ TrazorMC Yes sir, My favorite work of all of Tolkien`s incredible and vast creative wonders. The Silmarillion was like my Bible as a younger man, teenager really. This guys Vids are great,but he mispronounces so many names and places ,it makes me cringe. He has obviously not read the notes and all the rest of the appendices of "The Lord....." and The Silmarillion. I would have liked to have had more of Tolkien`s recorded interview`s around for us to hear today. Sadly we have very little of him reading from his own pages. What we DO have,to me, is a thrill to hear! Especially the excitement in his voice as he reads Elvish tongues.

[@edwardwallin8609]

Don't you dare taint Tolkiens work with a filthy TV show.

[@t.m.6588]

Its been announced that we are getting a LOTR show that's​ kinda like GoT(ish) i.s budget wise, quality

[@qurantino3624]

Sauron has always been one of my favorite characters! He is also a great villain, even though some would say he’s cliche; Which is not fear because Tolkien started the trend of villains who wanted to rule the world!

[@MenoftheWest]

AlternativeMovies Very interesting point! He did start that trend!

[@winstonsmith6204]

You don't know villian until you meet Marlo Stanfield from "The Wire"

[@rht785]

he became even more powerful than morgoth itselfand he stayed loyal to morgoth always .

[@Kamamura2]

That's very easy to refute. Stoker's Dracula also wanted to rule the world through his network of henchmen, and the book is older than Tolkien. Robert E. Howard's sagas are full of conquering tyrants, then there is Dr. FuManChu from 1911 or so , and the whole genre of 19th century of "bloody pulp fiction", or "pulp horror stories", cheap, pulp books printed en-masse that were full of dramatic, violent, badly written stories (obsoleted by B-movies when cinema started to be a thing), and those were full of struggle between the Jesuits and the Freemasons, two all-powerful, secretive secret organizations bent on controlling the world. And you must not forget the Illuminati that came even before that, and the Templars.... No, Tolkien certainly did not start it.

[@_semih_]

@@rht785 yes. Sauron was more powerful than Morgoth during the second age. Tolkien mentioned it one of his letters.

[@akamundi864]

*Sauron comes to the void Melkor: oh its you Sauron: oh hi master Melkor: Now i have someone to torture :)

[@allovergamer3484]

Oh God. This is uh, not ok

[@DarkestKnightshade]

Melkor (should be called Morgoth) should still be restrained by the collar (formerly his iron crown that held the Simarils) and chain that Aule made to restrain him. So he couldn't torture Sauron. Also, I think sauron's spirit was completely unmade.

[@rogueascendant6611]

@@DarkestKnightshade No, Melkor is jailed in one infinite endless void.

[@DarkestKnightshade]

@@rogueascendant6611 Well, that's what I mean. He is jailed in the void beyond Arda, but he is also chained.

[@DeweyMcStewey]

He also has the Balrogs to keep him company

[@ausarthevile2970]

3:56 I LOVE how there is a shadow of him in his armor behind him, like a mask of deceit

[@kelsokitten]

Succinct, clear, efficient and thorough. I've watched hour long videos about Sauron that were not as comprehensive as this video. Thank you for your service. 5 Stars.

[@notoriousdip5495]

Excellent work mate.Have a "pippin and merry" christmas

[@MenoftheWest]

Lozz DiP Thank you! You too friend!

[@scottbergisch9307]

Good one ;)

[@rbrearey]

Lozz DiP i

[@fishyfinthing8854]

One of the greatest villain of the time. When he barely have any dialogues, only backstories. That was so special!

[@phoule76]

Sauron was right: no one had the will to destroy the ring, as Frodo failed and it was only due to Gollum tripping that the ring was destroyed. So, a stray stone was what ultimately cast the ring into the pit.

[@s4mg4m92]

Nah it was both Frodos and bilbos mercy which spares gollum from death which otherwise would have caused a repeat in history ie the ring being kept for personal power

[@dsingh2391]

That's why gollum is one of the most important characters

[@mosty85]

@@dsingh2391 so you could argue that it was actually gollum of all people who actually saved middle earth. Regardless of his intent, were it not for his intervention, Frodo would have walked out of mount doom with the ring in tact.

[@shugahhigh3204]

I have a sneaking suspicion that the dislikes come from very hardcore Tolkien fans who have legitimate criticisms about this uploader’s analysis. That’s how good this content is. Only a scholar on these books can dislike this video. But that is just my opinion.

[@Chronocrits]

I’m addicted to this channel. I’ve been watching all morning. Such a fascinating history. Tolkien was indeed a master story teller.

[@maureenseel118]

Loving this channel. The Silmarillion was such a tough read and I'm still not sure I could make it through it again...this makes it make a lot more sense. I wish Tolkien had more time to actually complete the book.

[@gmunoz8595]

I don't know much about LOTR, but this was really entertaining. Feels like Star Wars, Final Fantasy and many other franchises drew from these stories. Very well done!

[@davidhong1934]

The Lord of the Rings is where all modern fantastic starts.

[@hismaster100]

the book LOTR was voted 'best of the 20th Century for it's genre, please read more Tolkien like the 'Book of Lost Tales and Forgotten Tales' the man JRR Tolkien created other languages as well

[@quietrioter]

All high fantasy begins and ends with LotR

[@mons3020]

You know what pissed off Tolkien a little bit back in the day? When people compared his work to the Ring Cycle, a high fantasy that predates his life and was made into a staple for all opera (*cough* shame about the brother/sister thing though...).@@quietrioter

[@someonesomething2201]

Every popular story drives ideas from LotR and the Silmarillion. Star Wars, Harry Potter, Hunger Games (doesn't look like a rip off, but it is), etc.....

[@therealrick1661]

Men were not "doomed to die", death was a gift given to man by God himself, because God favored men the most

[@Mondy667]

I thought that Doom = Fate

[@davidhong1934]

Mortality is supposed to give men the ability to cause change. Elves, also created in the image of the first god, were immortal and therefore unable to change, forever wishing things to stay the way the are (this, incidentally, led to the creation of the 20 rings). Men, who are encouraged to make the most of what they have, see the flaws in the world and, for better or worse, are the ones to alter the course of history.

[@willmosse3684]

The Real Rick Yes, but they perceived it as a doom

[@willmosse3684]

“Nine for Mortal Men Doomed to Die”

[@davidhong1934]

Will Mosse In universe, who exactly wrote that poem?

[@fingolfin9086]

Thank you for making these. Seriously. They’re amazing and I’m binging them.

[@bochiebochie]

Frodo never really destroyed the ring. If it were up to him, the ring would still be in his possesion. Sam is the real hero of the story.

[@Kravenrogue]

Frodo could carry The Ring since The Shire until Mount Doom, only then he fell to the corruptiom, any other person carrying the Ring would have fallen Way before, as we have seem in their Journey, Gandalf did'int even wanted to Touch it, Aragorn had to fight the Desire, Boromir fell before even touching it, even Galadriel almost Fallen to the Corruptiom, as Faramir too, did'int even let me start with Smeagle, even Sam almost fell to the Corruptiom when he carried The One Ring, he even says that he can not carry It for him, but he can carry him (Frodo) Frodo is The "Strongest" against The One Ring Corruptiom, but even him fell to the Corruptiom

[@PeePeeMilk]

@@Kravenrogue how was Frodo able to stay that strong? Like u said, all those people were corrupted right away. When Frodo found it on the floor in bilbos home, he literally picked it up like it was nothing. Gandalf clearly noticed that too

[@Kravenrogue]

@@PeePeeMilk I think its because The One Ring always search for Powerfull ones to corrupt, and Frodo at that moment was next to Gandalf, maybe the ring was focusing on corrupt Gandalf, and that made Frodo almost immune to the "Calling" In every moment Frodo was always close to some one, that maybe the One Ring saw as a more Powerfull person or a more likely person to be Corrupt, for example Frodo offers the Ring to Gandalf, to Aragorn, to Galadriel, to Boromir even, Frodo is always offering The One Ring to other person, maybe the Ring is always trying to go to a more Powerfull Person or more corrupt, I would say that Frodo's lack of skill or Power made him "Powerfull" against The One Ring corruptiom But in The End, even Frodo end up corrupted at Mount Doom, that show that no one is really immune to The One Ring corruptiom

[@memegimygimy1526]

Wow! This answered so many questions I’ve had for years about Sauron! I enjoyed this video so much, great work.

[@IronDragon-2143]

Sauron reminds an awful lot of Loki during the First Age. A shapeshifter and a trickster pretending to be a good friend. I wonder if Loki was one of Tolkien's inspirations for the character.

[@VelvetMagician]

My thoughts exactly

[@just-dl]

i don't doubt Tolkien was familiar with the character/stories of Loki; if the similarities were intentional, I can't say; but, I feel certain that Loki influenced the development of Sauron at some level. Tolkienologists might be able to provide references and quotes from letters and other writings....

[@yves_santa7]

No Loki was not an inspiration at all

[@checkmate9099]

Who knows? Tolkien seems to take inspiration from many mythologies/religions. The flooding of Numenour = Noah’s Ark Dagor Dagaroth = Ragnarok Sauron = Loki Illuvatar = God Even the moving of the sun across the sky by the Maia Arien, seems familiar to Ra the Egyptian sun god, moving the sun through the sky on his chariot.

[@VelvetMagician]

CHECK MATE good observation

[@kit4104]

I am constantly astonished by Tolkien's genius

[@someguythatlookslikeme8306]

Oliver H & Shekelton : id just like to say that I have seen(as most of us have) possibly hundreds of disagreements and arguments between people of differing opinions in every subject; and I absolutely MUST say this : You two conducted an immensely informative and aggressive 'fight' of differing beliefs and opinions, filled with quotes of each other and numerous refferences to each of Tolkien s books. I not only got a lot from this, but I enjoyed it, learned from it, and think it is the best argument I have EVER heard!! You were both polite, but NOT weak, and hospitable without giving way. . .I wish there were more like you both in this world. Cheers!!

[@Gigas0101]

I can't get over the sincerity in your voice, especially at the end. I can't think of many youtubers who sound more kindhearted and compassionate than you.

[@kitamik6080]

I’ve always had this little theory that one of the main “unspoken” reasons he created the ring is so that no matter how many times his physical body was defeated he could always come back because of the ring, and so used the ring as a way to permanently avoid being sent to the void.

[@anubusx]

Sauron: "Did you ever hear the tragedy of Melkor."

[@yersiniapestis1039]

Have you ever heard of the tragedy of Morgoth Bauglir, the Lord of Darkness? It's not a story that a wizard would tell...

[@alfredocubelo1109]

Is it possible to learn this power? Sauron: Not from the Valar

[@hyouzanren1846]

We need a trilogy movie about Rise of Sauron and another movie maybe about the creation of the Rings💍💍💍

[@rht785]

and the rebellion of the noldor the story of feanor.

[@brandonsavitski]

I want to watch an entire trilogy about how each creature uses the bathroom / relieves themselves. Not once in any of films do you ever see them defecate.

[@jrrrm3]

hyou zan ren amazon is starting a series that takes place in the second age that might be about that

[@aceofspades9503]

i'd rather have a TV series than a movie trilogy.

[@emeraldkoala2]

(Disney buys LOTR) NOW LET'S MAKE A SEQUEL TRILOGY!!!!!! DISCLAIMER: This reply is meant simply as a joke. Please don't kill me.

[@danwithjesus]

The world is changed..I feel it in the water...i feel it in the earth...i smell it in the air Much that once was is lost...for none now live to remember it... _title:LOTR_ It began with the forging of the Great Rings...3 were given to the Elves...Immortal,wisest and fairest of all beings.. 7 to the Dwarf-lord, great miners and craftsmen of the mountain halls... And 9 rings were gifted to the race of Men...who above all else, desire power... For within these rings was bound the strength and will to govern each race... But they were all of them deceived...For another ring was made.. In the land of Mordor, in the fires of Mount Doom...the dark Lord Sauron forged in secret a Master Ring to control all others.. And into this Ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.. One Ring to rule them all...One by one, the Free Lands of Middle-earth fell to the power of the Ring.. But there were some who resisted...A Last Alliance of Men and Elves marched against the armies of Mordor... And on the slopes of Mout Doom, they fought for the freedom of Middle-earth... _Elves: Hold positions, fire the arrows!.._ Victory was near...But the Power of the Ring could not be undone.. It was in this moment when all hope has faded that Isildur, son of the king, took up his father's sward.. _Isildur scene:Finger cut with the Ring of Power_ Sauron, the enemy of the Free Peoples of Middle-earth, was defeated.. The Ring passed to Isildur who had this one chance to destroy evil forever...But the hearts of Men are easily corrupted... And the Ring of Power has a will of its own...It betrayed Isildur to his death.. And some things that should not have been forgotton were lost..History became legend..legend became myth..and for 2500 years.. The Ring passed out of all knowledge..Until when chance came...it ensnared a new bearer... _Gollum:my precious_ The Ring came to the creature Gollum who took it deep into the tunnels of the Misty Mountains and there IT consumed him.. _Gollum: IT came to me..my own, my love, my own...my precious_ The Ring brought to Gollum unnatural long life and for 500 years IT poisoned his mind.. And in the gloom of Gollum's cave, IT waited..Darkness crept back into the forests of the world..Rumor grew of a shadow in the East.. Whispers of a nameless fear...and the Ring of Power perceived ITs time had now come...IT abandoned Gollum.. But something happened then the Ring did not intend..IT was picked up by the most unlikely creature imaginable...A Hobbit Bilbo Baggins of the Shire...For the time will soon come when Hobbits will shape the fortunes of all..

[@thanos2940]

For me Sauron is the best character in the LOR series. Amazing storyline thank you for sharing 🙂

[@Aurora2097]

We so badly need a silmarillion series! I would even be satisfied with just a well narrated re-telling and some cool slideshow pics!

[@jeffkais]

Sauron is one of the most fascinating and mysterious antagonists in the world of fantasy. Nice job mate keep them coming 👍

[@theserpent6070]

Great video. Your by far my favourite LOTR KZbinr.

[@Richard-dl6ko]

Amazing character history. Really helps me understand the epics a lot better. I love them all. The novels the quotes. The images in many different copies of the legends. I haven't finished half the content! This channel really helps. There are a lot on KZbin but, the men of the West is my favorite

[@kad3575]

thank you so much this video is insane

[@samdoe3608]

"He had believed no one had the will to destroy it (the ring), but he was wrong." Was he though? The only reason it was destroyed was Gollum. He wasn't wrong. Probably no one could destroy it, either not physically able or the ring overcomes their will to do that. What brought him down was his own corruption. He warped Smeagol into Gollum, and that backfired

[@VonArmagedda]

Well, it wasn't even Gollum who destroyed the ring, it has been confirmed that his fall was caused by Iluvatars intervention

[@samdoe3608]

@@VonArmagedda HuhI hadn't heard that. I think it makes more sense that while no one had the will to destroy the ring, raw greed and corruption is innately self-destructive and so in a way Sauron and the ring were their own undoing because of what they made Smeagol become.

[@VonArmagedda]

@@samdoe3608 quote from Tolkiens letter what happened after gollum took the ring from frodo; The Other Power then took over: the Writer of the Story (by which I do not mean myself), 'that one ever-present Person who is never absent and never named' Of course referring to Eru.

[@SM-uq3on]

I love your channel man. Merry Christmas.

[@MediaSock]

Someone needs to make a Game of Thrones style T.V. show out of Sauron's rise to power story, it would be epic.

[@cozetteweng2706]

And given that the books are already finished, the ending actually might not flop!

[@viz4884]

@@cozetteweng2706 Stahp. Don't you remind me of that shitty ending. It finished in s4

[@gavinlewis2642]

@@viz4884 I'd At least say 6 even season 7 wasn't complete shit but 8 was a fucking flop. So pissed dumb and dumber just wanted to get away to make star wars I mean hbo offered them 10 whole seasons

[@taliajung1553]

*Amazon's "The Lord of the Rings" series would like to know your location*

[@amanms1999]

Amazon is developing a LOTR prequel show. It is said to take place some years before LOTR. However the specific time period was not mentioned

[@Sionnach1601]

This was OUTSTANDING!!! So comprehensive, well paced, beautifully sync'd images to narration and music. Very, very good narration too. Love your scripting, your delivery and your voice and accent. Outstanding, thank you SOO so much for these. :)

[@ianh9072]

Great video! The complexities of an epic character so thoroughly and well-explained.

[@highdefinitionapollo2.019]

Ash nazg durbutuluk, Ash nazg gimpatul, Ash nazg thrakutuluk, Agh burzum-ishi krimpatul...

[@alissa6]

Is that Turkish?

[@television2343]

It's the black tongue... inscribed on the one ring, it glimmers when put in flame. Or in the presence of the dark Lord or his wraithes

[@alissa6]

@@television2343 Thanks

[@alissa6]

@Xenovista Be careful, don't want you be summoning a demon now.

[@willb1405]

Is the band burzum referencing black speech with their name?

[@hawaiianr6]

Its about time we get some background information on Sauron

[@Bipolar.Baddie]

Thanks man, this is the best Christmas present

[@happyhammer1]

I just stumbled upon your channel and subscribed within 5 minutes of watching this video. Awesome stuff man, keep up the good work.

[@thebrotherskrynn]

Beautiful musique, and magnificent video, a perfect retelling of Sauron's backstory. He truly is one of the greatest villains of all times.

[@screamingweevil3410]

I mean... Merry Christmas?

[@bramschiebroek1413]

That Sauron guy is pretty patient if you ask me.. I can't wait for longer than 20 minutes and he just waits for one thousand years for the oppertune moment.

[@brandonsavitski]

I was rooting for Sauron to win throughout all the books and movies. RIP Lord of Darkness. Gone but not forgotten.

[@chasemaracle6224]

To be honest I just wanted to see more of him in the books and movies.

[@ultidragonlord887]

I mean... I think he kind of was after some time in Middle Earth?

[@conchosewing]

awesome video! thanx man

[@PetkoTashev]

Brilliant video 👏🏻

[@beholder4465]

Make the movie! Lord of the Rings "Origins" or "the Begining". Whatever just make it!

[@emilsorlin2910]

The silmarillion

[@ismailmiah1446]

Silmarrillion Read the book It's sensational

[@DoctorXander]

The Silmarillion is so dense you'd need 10 movies before Feanor even appeared.

[@md.ahnafmoin9706]

@@DoctorXander Lol, I wouldn't make it that dense. I think, done justice, it can fit into five movies. The first part from The Destruction of the Two Trees to the duel of Fingolfin and Morgoth. Second part is Beren and Luthien. Then Children of Hurin. The Fall of Gondolin The War of Wrath

[@xenomorph2258]

i like everything about Middler-Earth. When i alone, i'm will lost in fantasy world of J.Tolkien. That story is so epic as i thought it's is real history of Earth.

[@torsteinhaarberg9277]

Hùng Super good grammar

[@xenomorph2258]

@@torsteinhaarberg9277 Yes. I'm bad English.

[@vkrgfan]

If they are going to make a movie about Sauron, they should cast Tom Ellis. He would be perfect for that character.

[@ilikenougat8892]

Holy shit, please He's already experienced playing a Dark Lord

[@radeczech15]

Amazing! Thanks for your work and time!

[@kingsoren2010]

Wow ! What an eye-opener. Always wondered about Sauron's history, great video thank you.

[@jackharper4685]

"he believed that nobody had the will to destroy it, but he was wrong" But he wasn't wrong. The only reason the ring was destroyed was the greed of Gollum and Frodo fighting over the ring in the end.

[@N7Winter]

Okay, but nobody talking about how hot Sauron was in his original form?

[@hajagameznstuff6956]

sauron was written as a Lucifer type character. tolkien literally intended for him to be beautiful and seemingly perfect to a fault

[@rht785]

" “He has dwelt in the West since the days of dawn, and I have dwelt with him years uncounted . . . and together through ages of the world we have fought the long defeat.”" Galadriel speking about lord celeborn ..... tolkien was truly a genius.

[@stephenh9483]

The pictures are wonderful!

[@bbigd0]

Thank you - This was quite the video. It answered a lot of questions in a new way. And I believe you are correct in most of your ideas.

[@dabj9546]

0:47 Even GIFs are of Saurons hands...

[@RemusKingOfRome]

Elves UNDER THE SKIES " ???? Does this mean there are more OVER the skies ? (in space ships?)

[@animistchannel2983]

The elves that went to Valinor and remained there were "outside the circles of the world," in the summer-lands of the Valar -- this is basically the Faerie Realm, a parallel dimension rather than a place in space. The ones who remained in or returned to Middle-Earth (literally "Midguard" in norse mythology) were still in the mortal world, so these elves were "under the skies" of normal reality. Sauron had no way to affect the Faerie Realm (because badass Valar gods and ancient elves ruled there, way over his level), so he was trying to use the rings of power to corrupt the few elven leaders who were still in Middle-Earth.

[@kaiczar1740]

How to turn from an anime elf from deviant art to a vampire to an armoured demigod into a floating eyeball with this one simple trick

[@free322001]

LMAO

[@FoggyLungz613]

Dope video bud

[@Jakblade]

Thank you for doing what you do. You and a few other channels are just so so amazing. I think I might have watched every one of your videos. Haha. And many of them multiple times.

[@MasterLordNikesama]

Thats why i love you man more information in lord of the ring :) please more and merry christmas :D

[@matthew721199]

This artwork is beautiful

[@justaguywithafedora54]

He is actually my favorite villains of all time.

[@justinsemling1019]

That was awesome man. Thank you for that.

[@agronopoulus]

Epic video as always! Keep up the great work! Cheers from Brazil!

[@nohbuddy1]

Pretty neat how this major villain is only a hovering cloud for everyone in the Lord of the Rings yet is such a damn big deal

[@manicmechanic1881]

totally intriguing video Yoystan I'm truly impressed and Christmas eve is a interesting day to release such a dark documentary lol oh well Tolkien would definitely have a smile on his face if he could sample your work congratulations sir you continue to best yourself Merry Christmas my friend

[@MenoftheWest]

manic mechanic Thank you for the support! I hope the video wasn’t too dark in its tone haha. Merry Christmas friend!

[@mihaelazekic8982]

So,basically,Sauron was Tolkien's version of Darth Vader.

[@morgumal]

@@tommccann3273 I nearly died laughing man🤣🤣🤣

[@stevestarcke]

Thanks!

[@SvenTviking]

“Sauron was the most powerful Maiar…” Eönwe, “Am I a joke to you?”