Sauron VS Lich King (Lord of the Rings VS World of Warcraft) | DEATH BATTLE!

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[@noirangel6416]

Lich King: You will serve me! Sauron: I serve no one! Morgoth: 👁👁 Sauron: 👀

[@mikespearwood3914]

To be fair, Morgoth has been gone for a long time.

[@t5hammer871]

to be fair too, Sauron hated Morgoth as Morgoth wanted to destroy everything. Sauron just wanted to bring it all to heel. Its speculated Sauron would have backstabbed Morgoth the moment he got the chance.

[@Daisy-sc6tm]

@@t5hammer871 Yes he would have and gotten quickly properly and completely spanked back down to size lol. It took a Host from Valinor and a few Valar to beat him No way Sauron would have been successful but he absolutely would have tried.

[@dinosdaniel3508]

@@t5hammer871 Morgoth was doing the Destruction playthrough while Sauron the Domination (Overlord 2 reference)

[@GogaPartizan]

Zovaal: 😏

[@therenegade1096]

Sauron about to get more screen time than in the entire franchise

[@saphiregoji9652]

Man boutta get 4 minutes thats a recored!

[@mattschemer4076]

Cmon, he at least had 20 minutes in the shadow of mordor games

[@therenegade1096]

@@mattschemer4076 lol sure I guess.

[@fokushigaru1310]

Man had more time in the books, the movies made him more of a supernatural presence. He still has a physical presence in the lord of the rings books.

[@mycaleb8]

@@fokushigaru1310 No he does not. The exact opposite is true. Sauron has more in person scenes in the movies than he does in the books

[@oskarthenarrator]

Sauron looked at Arthas and said "You are strong, child... but I am beyond strength."

[@papapalps2415]

Stop.

[@aranha6285]

@@papapalps2415It’s true Sauron is way beyond the lich King. A match fairer Fight would be the Witch King

[@papapalps2415]

@@aranha6285 He isn't.

[@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384]

I’m sure he would’ve made for a fine Nazgûl.

[@keanenfulton4696]

​@@papapalps2415cope

[@sundownerofficial]

it's a shame LK lost but "I'll tear out your heart!" "YOU WILL FIND NOTHING THERE!" was the coldest line in history

[@multiverse_media2023]

Ha! Cold pun.

[@sundownerofficial]

@@multiverse_media2023 you know it

[@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475]

All is meaningless against the true Dark Lord.

[@simounobrien9096]

Well, he ended up with nothing in the end though right? "IMPOSSIBLE!!!!"

[@TheBigRedToaster]

Heh it was ice cold

[@RolandTheJabberwocky]

Whats ironic is that the Lich King had less chance of winning against Sauron than a normal human simply because of Sauron viewing him as an actual potential threat. Sauron lost his ring simply for his hubris in how little he saw in man.

[@WriterKing92]

…Oh wow, I didn’t realize how obvious THAT part was. Once Sauron’s Eye is upon you, your days-nay, your MINUTES-are numbered.

[@danieldortch8779]

“I S~E~E Y~O~U” That tavern scene from the rainstorm river travel to the Ringwraiths all in all scare us pantsless…but the eye during the tavern bar invisible moment is truly frightening

[@ZenKrio]

His hubris wasn't entirely misplaced either. He literally left the door to Mt Doom open because he figured that anyone getting close to dropping the ring in would succumb to it's will, and he was entirely right, Frodo was unwilling to throw the ring into the mountain, it was Golum biting it off his finger that ended Sauron. IF they hadn't kept Golum alive, they would have failed.

[@MarioReischer]

But Isildur wasn't just ANY human.. He was a Numenor.

[@rya3190]

Isildur: Leroy Jenkins!

[@MrLuizilla]

Sauron melting the frozen throne just by sitting on it is honestly kinda raw

[@roukerasati9611]

Well considering how he could burn people through touch alone (e.g Gil-galad), it would make sense.

[@dlm292]

This entire fight is raw

[@howlrichard1028]

I would say it's quite cooked

[@FeiFongWang]

What, we're bringing the raw word meaning cool back or something?

[@MrREAPERsz]

@@FeiFongWang we still say raw in the South.

[@nexesses1548]

What I like about Tolkien is that his idea of power and magic isn’t fireballs and lighting, it’s the subtle manipulation of probability, words turning into into truth as they will it so and the literal manipulation of fate and destiny itself. A lot less flashy at first glance but so much more deep, meaningful and powerful the longer you think about it.

[@pacmonster066]

I mean sure...it's also the flashy stuff too. Like when Sauron makes himself a ten foot tall armored behemoth with a giant mace to crush dozens of knights at once. And Balrogs are basically the definition of "flashy power".

[@Antidragon-nl7by]

Sauron never crushed dozens of knights at once in the books... but he DID grab an elven lord (Gil-Galid) by the neck, hoist him into the air, and immolate the poor bastard from the inside out. WAY cooler than fireballs or lightning IMHO. Also, the Balrog's worst power in the books was the fear they projected; they pretty much turned you into a whimpering mess just be being in the same room with you.

[@andreasottohansen7338]

Personally, I like it when magic can do both. Like Mage The Awakening, where one of the more dangerous mage types specialize in manipulating Time and Fate

[@joselitopuzon5620]

​@@andreasottohansen7338im not familiar with Sauron. Tolkien and sauro are the same?

[@andreasottohansen7338]

@@joselitopuzon5620 Tolkien is the author

[@seekerofalice9787]

Honestly, Big Bad VS Big Bad is one of my favorite types of matchups, if only because they spend the entire battle throwing awesome one-liners at each other trying to win a game of one-upmanship

[@JustAnAverageItalian]

That’s basically what Galactus versus Unicron ended up being and it was awesome

[@misteraskman3668]

"Ohohoho, I love it when they monologue back"

[@NewMega252]

oh yeah every time they do a match up like this is ends up with some of the best lines. Like Gannon vs Dracula, Aizen vs Madara, and Goku Black vs Reverse Flash are peak for this lol

[@wd3185]

"Now... I'll tear out your heart!" "You will find *nothing* _there!"_ "You serve _me_ now..." _"I serve _*_no one!"_* "Witness the prophecy of your doom!" "You speak nothing but _lies!"_ Whoever did the dialogue on this one deserves a goddamn raise.

[@killerbean4328]

Facts especially the “I serve no one”.

[@multiverse_media2023]

@@killerbean4328 Morgoth?

[@simounobrien9096]

@@multiverse_media2023 I think that Sauron, as the Dark Lord would think he is the Supreme Being. It makes sense for him to say "I serve no one"

[@LibertyPrime21240]

@@killerbean4328 that’s actually a line from Shadow of War

[@Karlos1234ify]

“ *IMPOSSIBLE!* “ “There is no life in the void.”

[@monarchlaciel3057]

I like how causing the mountain to erupt did nothing to actually benefit Sauron, he was just being extra

[@MastaDRD]

Not true, Arthas was calling a blizzard to disorient his foe and the eruption basically canceled it. ....but it was incredibly extra, regardless of benefits.

[@Necro_fury]

Was so expecting balrog to battle out the frost wyrm(wurm?) But totally dumb and forgot balrog isnt under the forces of Sauron

[@lifeofentropy]

@@Necro_fury They were when he was working for Morgoth. Sauron was the general and the Balrogs his elite soldiers.

[@TheSpiritombsableye]

It was to counter ice and snow.

[@streakermaximus]

"Presentation!" -Megamind

[@Dovahneer]

i like how sauron is aiming for frostmorune the entire time, hes all too familiar with how this op magical relic that contains a good chunk of your soul thing works

[@rustkarl]

I love that moment when it breaks the Eye covers the screen. Like his power is so total that even the camera can’t see anything else.

[@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384]

@@rustkarlSuch a fantastic choice cinematography-wise.

[@m16dude967]

Arthas should of been cutting fingers, what he gets

[@Veldazandtea]

@@m16dude967 "Have". Not "of".

[@megahobbit5972]

Nah Sauron just hates swords :P

[@pegasusanimationssometimes]

The part where Sauron slowly sits on the throne will the screen begins to turn red is so clean

[@DamontheDemon7]

And as his stolen throne begins to melt. From the intense heat. Of the severe burn… Of the cook that IS SAURON!!!

[@ryanchong9965]

The Litch King's response of "YOU WILL FIND NOTHING THERE!" was absolutely badass.

[@MrUnimportant]

Very 2000s edge. But also accurate!

[@voltage6338]

*Lich

[@larno80]

@@MrUnimportant fits alot

[@simounobrien9096]

Well, he ended up with "Nothing" in the end XD!!!

[@DamontheDemon7]

@@simounobrien9096 “There is no life in the void. Only… death” RING POWER!!!

[@filipvadas7602]

That second to last exchange between them was actually epic tbh Sauron: "I will rip out your *heart* " Arthas: "You will find *nothing there* "

[@gameuniverse5973]

Arthas: probably should have gone for the he Sauron:that joke stop being funny years ago

[@heyguysxd]

Maybe a small reference to omni man vs homelander.

[@UMCorian]

Better exchange than anything in Rings of Power.

[@Anonymice]

@@heyguysxd Actually it's a reference to a questline that reveals Arthas literally tore out his heart and last vestiges of his humanity only to then cast it into a pit.

[@MasonDixonAutistic]

Gave me chills when at that moment, Emperor Palpatine somehow returned and proclaimed "And I am all the Senate!"

[@utubefuku7132]

Sauron's control over Numenor is even more badass than showed in the video. Numenor is basically the Atlantis of Middle Earth - in fact, Tolkien wrote it as much. Not only Numenor was a massive island-empire with a massive population, but the humans of Numenor were not just "common" humans, but rather a "superior" kind of humans, with vast more skills, knowledge and wisdom than "normal" humans, and with incredibly large lifespans too. The first king of Numenor lived for 900 years! Numenor was a vast human utopia inspired in the legends of Atlantis. So it happens that, after forging the One Ring, the elves felt it's power and removed their 3 rings in order to not be controlled by Sauron, which infuriated him and thus he launched a war against... Pretty much all of Middle Earth lol. When the Numenoreans learned of this, they sent a massive fleet to Middle Earth, with enough troops to conquer ALL of it (yes, the Numenoreans were THAT powerful). Instead of waging war against them however, Sauron SURRENDERED HIMSELF and ALLOWED HIMSELF TO BE TAKEN PRISONER into Numenor. And so, *as a prisoner* , Sauron CORRUPTED most of the Numenoreans, to the point of convincing them to make HUMAN SACRIFICES to Morgoth and eventually SERVE HIM (serve Sauron) So, rather than fighting the Numenoreans, he managed to take control of them from within, taking control of the most powerful empire on Middle Earth for his own. That's how badass Sauron is (and this feat was even greater than any of Morgoth)

[@acolyte06312]

And then Eru said “f**k it” and pulled Numenor in the abyss. And that still didn’t kill Sauron. Also there were several Numenorean realms left over, like Gondor, the Corsairs, and Arnor.

[@utubefuku7132]

@@acolyte06312 And his minions the Witch King destroyed Anor and Sauron corrupted the Umbat Dark Numenorian Corsairs into his service... Again!

[@acolyte06312]

@@utubefuku7132 Yeah he is one persistent bastard

[@Diainvcgtslover]

Well technically Morgoth has superior abilities and feats , one of the pop up descriptions during Sauron’s story explanation stated that the Vaiar have far greater abilities and feats , and Morgoth is a Vaiar and Sauron is a Maiar but the greatest among them , so the only reason Morgoth’s abilities and feats aren’t fully shown is probably because the movies and the ongoing poetry and literature stories haven’t explored more much on the Vaiar (Morgoth included) yet

[@im-your-parents]

I think melkor destroying the two lamps and the two trees were greater feats

[@rhabeebrhabeeb3250]

Sauron didn't want to destroy all life, that was Morgoth. Sauron was bent towards dominating all life, or destroying what resisted.

[@abhabh6896]

he wanted order... sadly, in the most direct way possible....

[@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384]

@@abhabh6896Melkor and his strength was but his means. Unfortunately, like all genius’s, he sure made a miscalculation.

[@tommoore2012]

@@abhabh6896 From Saruon's perspective, he didn't see himself as evil. But as someone who must make the difficult choice to bring order and peace to middle-earth. For everyone else though, they saw it as pure tyranny.

[@kokocaptainqc]

@@tommoore2012 yep Sauron was woke basically

[@anabomination2784]

“I’ll tear out your heart.” “You will find nothing there.” “You serve me now.” “I serve no one.” These lines are so badass and they go so hard.

[@Brauljo]

16:45 *"I'll tear out your heart"

[@simounobrien9096]

@@Brauljo 18:20 "IMPOSSIBLE!!!!"

[@thegameplayer125]

@@simounobrien9096 "there is no life in the void, ONLY DEATH"

[@556deltawolf]

"I serve no one!" Me: What about Melkor? "Well yeah except him. But he's currently trapped in the void"

[@acolyte06312]

@@556deltawolf So, at this moment, I serve NO ONE

[@Our_Remedy]

"I will rip out your heart" "You will find nothing there!" Such a metal line.

[@TerribleVA]

For a while i genuinely thought that these voices were just clips from the actual va's, these are some of the most accurate sounding voice actors death battle has ever had.

[@antisionistns2460]

This is Patrick Seitz voice

[@kindalllowder3595]

I'd like to add that Tolkien himself said the ring was literally impossible to destroy willingly. The whole reason Sauron lost the final battle was because of a random chance that his ring would be accidentally dropped into Mount Doom. The magic in the ring is at its strongest in Mount Doom, making anyone unable to have the willpower to destroy it.

[@dragonearth5456]

It was less random chance and more Eru Ilúvatar interfering right at the end. Note that would be the second time Sauron lost due to Eru's intervention the first time being the fall of Numenor.

[@masterexploder9668]

Gollum managed to get the Ring back from Frodo, but when he was happily dancing over the ledge, Eru gave him a slight push.

[@DarkOmegaMK2]

This was taken into account by everyone who tasked Frodo. He wasn't expected to do the impossible, he was tasked to "reach mount doom" and let destiny play it's part, hopefully. The fact Frodo reached the very end with the ring on him was a miracle by itself, but he was not expected to actually destroy the ring himself, as no one can destroy the ring willingly. When you think about it, the whole of humanity, the suicide assault on Aragorn's part against Sauron and basically everything that had happened was hinging on a "maybe something good will happen at the end". Really tells you how dire the situation was in Middle Earth.

[@exantiuse497]

This isn't relevant for this discussion. Tolkien was talking about his story when he said that. None of the characters in that story would have been able to do it. Or are you saying he meant that Valar couldn't destroy the ring, or that Iluvatar, the almighty God himself, would not have been able to do it? When Tolkien said that he didn't consider Iluvatar or the Valar, let alone characters from other fictional settings, because they weren't present as characters in the story

[@markevans1618]

So basically the only reason Sauron lost any power was because he basically soloed Angels, God, and all of Middle Earth and the only way he could keep fighting to the ends of time was to slowly sacrifice parts of himself to continue the battle. What a monster

[@geraldballinger6428]

yeah, he's bascially lucifer

[@graveyardgary4482]

Spoilers!

[@zonnodon163]

More fearsome than Satan himself!

[@dimentiosservant]

@@graveyardgary4482 for Lord of the Rings? The series that's been out for 69 years now? Edit: Well this went over my head. Add me on r/wooosh

[@ulysses11]

@@graveyardgary4482 you’ve had nearly 100 years to read Tolkiens books.

[@melissabarnes1063]

"I'll tear your heart out!" "You'll find nothing there!" That went hard as hell

[@pirategoku6238]

YUp cause he rip out his heart to remove that trace of arthas and you’ll get a questline that you will find his heart

[@gameuniverse5973]

Sauron once again trying to be edgy even tho he use to have a wife apprantly

[@AriesZero]

@@gameuniverse5973 she took the kids and that pushed him over the edge lmao

[@spinyjustspiny3289]

@@AriesZero Morgoth was his rebound

[@albertluke372]

Arthas at the start of the fight: In this cold north, you will only find death. Sauron at the end of the fight: There is no life in the void, only death. This is somehow poetic.

[@tanyatheendergirl8987]

Sauron: there is no life in the void, only death Melkor: *I mean, you're not wrong*

[@preds43]

​@@tanyatheendergirl8987The Jailer: Amateurs

[@TheAstropotatoe]

Sauron catching one of the litchking’s spectrals, burning it, then throwing it back is absolutely gangster.

[@_M_42]

Sauron sitting on Lich King's Throne after lighting his entire kingdom on fire went so hard.

[@gameuniverse5973]

Litch king got his swag and throne taken

[@Danny-tf3fd]

That's totally something Sauron would do.

[@rablablook1720]

I can imagine the entire Northrend becoming an entire raid instance now called Morerend.

[@oblivion1924]

@@gameuniverse5973 no drip, no kingdom, and probably no maidens either.

[@wolvesrevenge866]

That was absolutely badass when he froze the lich kings former throne melting the ice, a clean detail I will not forget

[@iambatsmurfette7194]

"I'll tear out your heart" "You'll find nothing, there" Has got to be the most badass line, of all time.

[@CommanderShepard-wq3wo]

One of*

[@multiverse_media2023]

This is more badass: "There is no life in the void, only death."

[@solidg3legend868]

What about this line? "You serve me now!" "I serve no one!"

[@xaoc6084]

This is another good one “Your father dabbled in powers beyond reckoning…where is he now?”

[@simounobrien9096]

@@xaoc6084 While everyone is having a blast with the lines, I always laugh when Arthas said "Impossible!!!!" Though Sauron saying "There is no life in the void, only death". That was Godlike

[@Ozarka0]

You know, people often forget because it's really easy to forget, but Tolkien's creatures, heroes, and villains are REALLY POWERFUL. He held back a great deal when writing. Or, better put, because his was a heroic, low magic setting, it's easy to underestimate them despite how well written they are.

[@calsalitra4689]

Smaug is great for putting things into perspective. A rough estimate of his size puts him at the size of a football field (based on being apparently unable to open his mouth inside a 5' tall passage), and would lose a fight to a Balrog. Gandalf the Grey was barely able to kill a Balrog, and as the Grey he was in a weakened state. The Witch-king of Angmar was considered the equal of Gandalf the White, who was in a stronger state than when he was the Grey. Even then the Witch-king was in a weakened state because Sauron lacked the Ring, and was considered but a shadow of what he would be when Sauron is at full power. And Sauron himself eclipses even the Witch-king. Smaug (a dragon the size of a football field capable of singlehandedly destroying an entrenched Dwarven army) < Balrog = Gandalf the Grey < Gandalf the White = Witch-king of Angmar

[@theenderdestruction2362]

​@@calsalitra4689fun fact: if I remember correctly dragons in Tolkien's work don't even breathe fire they just straight up breath physical destruction that just so happens to look like fire

[@revine7801]

unrelated but DUE I LOVE YOUR ANNE PFP

[@jamescheddar4896]

@@calsalitra4689 gothmog=sauron

[@jamesnolanrenehan]

Yeah Sauron was more powerful than osse who could life 4.9 quadrillion tons of rock(numenor) out of the ocean. Tolkien himself said Gandalf was the only one who could kill him by himself using the one ring against Sauron and Gandalf could kill a balrog which is literally a lesser god that was corrupted and subsequently given more power by Morgoth which shows how strong Gandalf was. But the fact that Gandalf needs the one ring to kill Sauron shows that Sauron really is on another level.

[@ethribin4188]

Just reading the LotR series, you simply cant grasp how powerfull the one Ring and Sauron are. Mainly because we never see them at full ppwer. But the dread and memory of him at full power is backed into the world.

[@koreancowboy42]

Well consider this gives us an idea how powerful he is to an extent. Lady galadrial one of the most powerful elves on middle earth with one of the ring of power and the light bulb thing. She single handedly used all her power to defeat Sauron in a match of raw power during the hobbit film in Dol Guldur fortress of Sorcery. It drained all of Galadrials power to banish Sauron away

[@robertwye9463]

​@@koreancowboy42 That was also a weakened Sauron since he had vastly expended his power in numenor

[@koreancowboy42]

​@@robertwye9463 wouldn't say he's that weakend note the fact Sauron hid himself for a long time planning his return and attacks in the Fortress of Sorcery, Dol Guldor And not even Galadriel or anyone was able to sense it, then Sauron be able to fight Gandalf during the hobbit, where Gandalf shielded himself and got his staff burned and destroyed.

[@stonetimekeeper]

​@@koreancowboy42Considering Sauron lacked the One Ring, he was still in a weakened state. Which just goes to show how powerful Sauron actually is.

[@MajinMuu]

oh? What type of power are we dealing with here city mountain island country continent?

[@shmeebs387]

Sauron only lost because of multiple interventions of God himself. And Sauron was right that nobody would actually want to destroy the ring. Tolkien has said that it's literally impossible to willingly destroy it. That's why in the books, Gollum accidentally destroyed it by slipping into the fire and in the movies falling in fighting over it with Frodo. In both versions, the ring had to be unintentionally destroyed.

[@LordSiravant]

It wasn't even an accident. Tolkien's letters explicitly state Gollum falling was also an act of God. Eru wanted to make certain Sauron lost. The fact that Eru NEVER intervened against Morgoth but had to intervene MULTIPLE times against Sauron says a lot to how much more dangerous a threat Sauron was due to him being way smarter than Morgoth about how to use his power most effectively.

[@kyleshea384]

@@LordSiravant True, Morgoth from what I read was basically an angry teenager rebelling against his parents.

[@dysn3961]

It’s rather poetic that the symbol of conquest and irresistible power would be its own undoing

[@VelvetVexations]

@@LordSiravant Watch Fellowship again and compare the opening scene - a huge army of elves and men taking Sauron down all on their own - and compare it to the present day. By the time of the War of the Ring, everyone was isolated from each other, lineages were either slowly circling the drain or seemingly gone for good, great heroes were gone, and one of God's angels turned traitor in a desperate grab for power. God had to intervene against Sauron not because Sauron was stronger, but because the good guys were weaker.

[@obi-wankenobi1233]

@@dysn3961 I think that's what Token's ultimate message with Lord of the Rings was; not necessarily that good always vanquishes evil, but that evil, by its very nature, will ultimately destroy itself.

[@Dragonian05]

Okay, but that “You will find nothing there!” In response to Sauron’s “Now, I will tear out your heart.” was a raw as Hell line.

[@arstulex]

Plus it's literally true. Arthas tore out his own heart because he saw it as a weakness.

[@Fey_Yoshida]

and is unironically true... Arthas tore out his own H E A R T and threw it under Icecrown Citadel.

[@arstulex]

@@Fey_Yoshida Oi, don't copy me bro. I got here first.

[@mihaimercenarul7467]

@@arstulex get a life kid

[@haydenberends3905]

Yeah. I was rooting for Sauron, but that was awesome

[@inuresuoyamada]

Hands down, one of the best death battles ever done ever since Sephiroph vs Virgil

[@charliesowern2166]

Deadpool vs the mask

[@stefanzawalony1960]

One of the worst

[@Stardweller1]

The only thing I found disappointing was that Sauron didn’t have the Ring tempt Arthas, thus making him more vulnerable.

[@williamfadel4980]

I’m not sure if that power of the ring would be an issue for the Lich King. The lich king isn’t Arthas anymore (arthas and ner’zhuls souls merged) The Lich King’s master is on the level of Titans canonically speaking (being powerful enough to cleave a planet in two), and the Lich King is already being dominated by more powerful magic than the one ring (magic of a being more powerful than Sauron)

[@Veldazandtea]

Arthas already had his life screwed over by the sword. Do you think he's going to fall for the rings tricks after another item already did it?

[@marley7868]

@@Veldazandtea also sauron has no reason to and plenty reasons not to the first that comes to mind is that making your enemy want your only weakness is usually a bad idea

[@DamontheDemon7]

Probably because it was unnecessary. Like Wiz said, Sauron was the superior Dark Lord. And Boomstick was Tolkien about it.

[@abhabh6896]

@@williamfadel4980 Litch king was Arthas. Arthas killed Nerzhul. I am sick of retcon BS. That was entirely Arthas. And he wouldnt be tempted because of Frostmourne. Problem is that Sauron is a better blackmith than any dingy nathrazeem or shadowlands titan, one look and he would know what he needs to do to break it apart....

[@snowtiger7370]

I like how in more recent Death Battles, they go for more character-driven deaths rather than gory spectacles. Sauron sucking out the Lich King's soul before dumping his corpse on the ground and then taking his throne feels truer to his malicious character than some Mortal Kombat demise.

[@borby4584]

not just the Lich King's soul, but EVERY SOUL that the Lich King took too, and that's a completely believable move for a being like Sauron

[@allanbaker3958]

But doesn't that then make Sauron the Lich King?...

[@snowtiger7370]

@@borby4584 Oh my goodness. I didn't freaking realize that. Somehow that DOES make it feel much more like something Sauron would do.

[@c1ph3r75]

@@allanbaker3958 Not technicaly. He has the Lich King powers, but is not the Lich King. From what I understand, the Lich King is the fusion of Ner'Zhul (The souls trapped in the armor) and the wearer of the armor. If there is no fusion, then there is no Lich King. Technically, of course. Since Sauron has the powers of Lich King, he acts as a Lich King. That is what I believe, knowing a bit about the lore of LK.

[@That-No-Moon]

@@allanbaker3958 I mean, the Witch-king of Angmar and all the Nazguls are technically lichs themselves, so Sauron was technically the king of the Liches.

[@the_oc_maniac8972]

The fact that Sauron literally had no cons in the aftermath analysis is honestly badass. Especially considering that he is the ONLY combatant to have that at this time.

[@Theeight8b]

Fun thing, that even IF Arthas managed, somehow, to remove Ring from Sauron hand... he'd just put it on his own hand and, whelp, this will be another win for Sauron.

[@jacobweatherford4696]

@@Theeight8b yeah sauron would probably just possess him.

[@justinanderson2460]

​@@jacobweatherford4696+ I feel like this is a bit of an exaggeration and I actually think that Arthas definitely could fight off Saurnon taking over his mind directly. What I think would be more likely is that Arthas takes the Ring, leaving a Sauron's spirit to reconstitute over like 5000 years and in that time, the Ring is building upits influence over Arthas subtly to thebpoint he always has it near or on him and is overly protective of it. When Sauron re-announces himself, the Ring helps drive Arthas into a stat where he's overly paranoid and protective and sets about acting to prevent Sauron ever getting the Ring back and then abandoning Arthas at a pivotal moment, leaving him in a disadvantageous position meanwhile having Sauron end up getting the Ring back and either using it's influence to finally get past Arthas' defenses or, more likely to eventually defeat Arthas in battle, strip him of his own artefacts and now t of his power, then break and enslave him while he's weakened, analyse and unlock the secrets of all of Arthas magic and his artefacts before taking all the power and knew magical techniques he can before ultimately giving Arthas' back his stuff and installing him as his new right had and giving him command of the Nazgul. Hell, he might even force a Ring on Arthas in his weakened state and completely bind him to his will that way. Perhaps he'd even manage to discover how to pull souls out of Frostmourne and bind the soul or Arthas himself. The Sky's the limit here.

[@NeoNightwing729]

@@jacobweatherford4696 that's not how the ring works at all. If so then any of the people who wore it would ha e become him. He needed to right to complete his soul.

[@andrewboyer7544]

@@NeoNightwing729 Every second Arthas wears the ring he becomes more and more a slave to it. It's an inevitable end.

[@burghleyimeanberdly6513]

It's worth pointing out that Sauron was not wearing armor here, his body WAS the armor He is a literal war machine

[@DragonKnightCole]

So he pulled a Mordekaiser from League before Mord existed

[@franzicoy]

So if you lose your soul slowly but surely, then does that mean your body becomes a set of armor?

[@jojogacha974]

So if you try to take the helmet off it just does not come off?

[@an-animal-lover]

​@@franzicoyconsidering the Nazgul, yes

[@pacmonster066]

Sauron imbued his soul and power into the ring. He had to do that because it was needed to control the other rings of power given to already powerful people. The body was just a form to move around in. If he felt like fighting, he'd make a big hulking armor. If felt like subterfuge he'd take the form of an elf, he could shape shift into whatever form best suited his needs. Sauron never thought he'd be separated from the ring, so when it was cut off his temporary body he lost the ability to manifest new physical forms.

[@Elmo9001]

He may have lost in the end, but he put up a great fight against one of the biggest villains in all of fiction, it was still one of the closest fights of a season that was mostly incredibly close fights, and he had the best line of "You will find NOTHING THERE!" GG Lich King, well done.

[@heavyweaponsguy6284]

This was not even close cause they hyped and highballed sauron thus making it biased in his favor instantly and just handing him an instant win button.

[@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475]

​@@heavyweaponsguy6284Someone is salty.

[@quincyking010]

honestly they ignored in the factor one of the LK powers even though they mentioned it in the backstory. ANY attack the LK lands also does damage to the soul. thus the ring is now not the only way to kill sauron. the LK is super effective against sauron and any damage he does is permant and actual damage. and im going to be honest comparing the island raising feat is on the low scale of the feats they could have compared him to since there have been significantly stronger things that he has bested

[@Rexbob444]

⁠@@quincyking010 he pretty much put his soul into the one ring unless the Lich king starts hitting it he’s not doing soul damage to him

[@harrisonwillmoth5037]

Ah yes, nothing like watching two magical, evil-whispering warlords fighting and magically evil-whispering to each other while doing so.

[@jamessmall6499]

Lich King doesnt..doesn't... whisper at all. Every line is soul shatteringly loud roars that chill your spine?

[@Bladeki]

Arthas does whisper loudly to you as you're doing the Shadowmourne quests but dang...forget farming for Shadowmourne, I want to get the One Ring now on my characters on WoW

[@jamessmall6499]

@@Bladeki think that was already a thing with Azerite wasn't it?

[@Bladeki]

@@jamessmall6499 from BfA?

[@Mr_Wholegrain]

After seeing Sauron, I think I finally understand LOTR fans.

[@lightningwight4154]

A story is only as good as its villain. Sauron is a good villain because he is sinister, extremely powerful, has clear motives, and very specific weaknesses. Mainly, he is only defeated by his own hubris.

[@Crasheschick]

@@lightningwight4154 It's honestly possible in the Trilogy that he could have even succeeded since Frodo wouldn't have thrown the ring into the volcano and he would have possibly killed off the Fellowship with his forces while he could have had his orcs kill sam and frodo and reclaim the ring. The only reason why he didn't win was cuz of Gollum's interference.

[@lightningwight4154]

@@Crasheschick During the original trilogy, Sauron is mostly just a ghost and still on the very edge of absolute global conquest. They even said whenever Gondor caught the Hobbits that "all that needs to happen is for Faramir to merely extend his hand, and take the ring. Then the world of man will fall".

[@Crasheschick]

@@lightningwight4154 yeah sauron didn't really need to be in his physical form he knew that no man was going to be able to throw it in n even no other species would either.

[@Paulunatr]

Lord of the Rings is a masterpiece that stands the test of time beautifully. The movies, games, and other stuff are only the cliff notes of the content in the books, and even the books themselves are just a piece of the incredible stories that happened in Tolkien's world. If you can handle some heavy reading, they are absolutely still worth a try.

[@FSoJG28597]

Post analysis side notes: 19:15 Ner'zhul performed a spell that destroyed a planet, but it required preparation, special items, and a group of followers. Also, the destruction of Draenor was a chain reaction of the spell going haywire over time, making it impossible to directly scale the Lich King to Ner'zhul. 19:54 An unnamed Eredar has destroyed the surface of a planet, but cannot scale to the Lich King as Eredar vary in power. Similarly, special Maiar have moved the sun & moon, but it is unclear how they compare to Sauron. Scaling both generously, Sauron would still be more powerful. 20:38 When compared to the Balrogs & Illidan, Sauron & the Lich King could both reach high hypersonic speeds of around Mach 30.

[@williamfadel4980]

I don’t think the shattering of frostmourne is realistic. In-game it took the core of the Naaru (which is what is part of Ashbringer) to shatter it. Frostmourne isn’t just a steel weapon and lorewise was shattered by the core of something that powers intergalactic spaceships

[@Servellion]

@@williamfadel4980 That's something that bothered me as well. They treat Frostmourne as a mere magical weapon, not a literaly soul-cleaving hellblade that was broken because it was struck with a blow that had about as much of it's cosmological polar opposite as mortally possible. The strongest Paladin of the time, swinging a blade that uses the heart of a Naaru as it's core and it's all powered by the Light. And DB is just like "lol, Sauron hit it really hard so it broke"

[@BurstingBushidox]

Yeah I think they honestly just leaned hard on sauron because he has more history, but imo this would be a deadlocked fight that would last forever because sauron wouldn't be able to logically break frostmourn like they showed and he would just keep rebuilding his body with lk having no real way to kill move him. Would've been a cooler ending also for them to fight for eternity fire and ice.

[@marley7868]

@@Servellion yea but remember sauron has a ring that literaly gives your whatever you want and he's top strength the balrog would lose to him hard gandalf would lose to him without the ring he's got the power and he's weilding a mace in a body that is a literal war machine he's about as well placed as anyone to pull it off

[@stevefernandez6431]

​@@marley7868it's not as much a strength or power thing as it is a nature of magic thing. Frostmourne will only break by the most holy of powers the same power of saurons enemies. So to break half of the litch king because well reasons is a little ridiculous. It's like trying to torture a full blown masochist, yeah you could but how much would you really get out of him if you beat a person who enjoys getting beaten.

[@estherwinchester2831]

Few moments in the show will ever be as raw as Sauron just blowing up the volcano without even trying, same energy as Madara just casually summoning the meteor

[@DarknetDude]

The last shot of the One Ring King sitting upon a melting throne was absolutely divine.

[@LeviathanGamer799]

That steam tho 👌

[@abulletant1147]

No pibby corruption vs r34? Cringe

[@zenithbear1]

@@abulletant1147 wtf

[@ptolemeeselenion1542]

Lol.

[@chrisphelps4552]

There was nothing divine about that. Just sheer terror and nightmare fuel.

[@danielrobinson7872]

Well Sauron actually was right about his power being irresistible in the end, the One Ring was only destroyed by accident because of two people fighting over it.

[@life_is_a_myth]

3

[@N_o196]

I assume they didn't make that distinction because they didn't want to unnecessarily spoil the movies

[@DanielDias-vs6gd]

Not even an accident. It was a literal intervention of god. One of the only times Eru Illuvitar meddle with Middle Earth

[@georgiancountryball202]

Not only that gollum slipped because eru himself looked down and made him slip

[@b.b.s7545]

maybe if Frodo didn't sway closer to the dark side because of Gollum

[@diablo595]

We’re talking about the difference between a lich who got his powers from a demon vs a fallen angel who waged war against the civilized world for thousands of years. This wasn’t a fight. This was a demonstration.

[@kazanshin4108]

Couldn't have put it better myself.

[@jacksorrows2509]

fr fr. Arthas is a strong character don't get me wrong, but he was defeated by 10-25 sweaty nerds over the course of a month. I love him, my favourite character of the two, but Arthas was bound to take a FAT L here.

[@kylonjones5678]

@@jacksorrows2509nah he wasn’t defeated by 25 people. He wiped the whole raid group meaning he was just playing around and was never serious. Tirion was the one who pulled a plot hole out of his ass and defeated lich king. The raid group just delivered the finishing blow

[@gengarisnotinsmash...]

When I first saw Balrog vs TJ Combo, it became my favorite death battle by a significant margin for a long time. I can confidently say that this death battle has significantly lowered that gap. What can I say about Sauron vs Litch King that does it justice? The analysis did an excellent job describing how much of a threat they were to their respective worlds, and somehow managed to properly convey thier stories in such a short time. The animation is top notch. Whatever shots I used to think looked a bit off now look much better to me after seeing them a few times. The impact of their weapons clashing is immense, as it should be seeing as it's a mace hitting a greatsword. In fact, impactful is probably how I would describe this entire animation. Every single detail, sound, movement carried the weight of ten elephants strapped to a black hole. Sauron taking a step or even sitting down hits harder than half the death battles ever made. The dialog is top notch, with excellent voice acting that gets across how much the combatants see each other as being beneath them. The lines are stellar too, and it makes an amazing dynamic of Arthus's grandstanding compared to Sauron's much more subtle and sinister tone- which both fit the characters. Arthus literally brags about not having a heart, and Sauron never shows emotion in the entire fight until someone dares to suggest that he belongs to someone else. Top it off with stellar effects and probably the best cinematography death battle has ever had, and you get my second favorite death battle ever.

[@Kaidorah]

Arthas: “You serve me now” Sauron: “I serve no one!” This fight is so badass it’s like taking lessons how to be a G

[@ItsButterBean1020]

Arthas saying “you’ll find nothing there” is sick too

[@alexandercarter9598]

Gotta respect that Sauron is the second and weaker Dark Lord of Middle Earth, but only the deep lore fans know Malgor's name.

[@99Kresnik]

Melkor is Saurons boss. His title is He Who Arises in Might. Gets named Morgoth by the elves which means The Black Enemy for stealing the silmarils and killing the two trees. Has a song battle with the other Ainur angels effectively. Bringing evil into the world. But Eru Illuvitar tells him that all of his effort shall in the end make the music of the Valar more beautiful and Ultimately serve his will Sauron later has a similar rap battle with Fingon and slays him. IIRC Fingon was the High King of the Noldor at this point, noldor being high elves

[@hobohabsburg8447]

Bruh, “G”

[@Spiketrooper]

A complete reference to Sauron countering Celebrimbor and Eltariel attempting to Dominate him in Shadow of War. You cannot mind control a Maiar. As Shelob in the same game said, the only way Celebrimbor would have won is if Talion was with him instead of Eltariel. Talions ferocity and wish for control would have overpowered Sauron without the Ring.

[@BretGammons]

This Death Battle had to take place in the world of Warcraft because Arthas couldn't simply walk into Mordor.

[@safinnell92212]

The is the best reply I’ve seen ever

[@redenriot4577]

@@safinnell92212 And yet even so, LK and his armies can easily take control of Baradur, his armies, and soon the land of Mordor. This DEATH BATTLE is just for fun, but never 100% correct. Cause me and the fans and researchers have alreadg known, LK takes the W.

[@tripler2833]

@@redenriot4577 Maybe in terms of army strength, but 1v1, Lk hardly stands a chance.

[@kickboxproductionsfilms9523]

@@redenriot4577 not exactly. Sauron is the servant of one the most vile and powerful villans in the whole Lotr universe. He was considered very powerful before he even turned evil. Far more than Arthas was in his prime. Plus, his influence was so powerful he corrupted some of the most powerful beings in middle earth.

[@veslar]

Very underrated comment. You deserve more praise, sir.

[@danieldickson8591]

What I enjoy most is the multiple levels on which this fight takes place. Each of these monsters wields a host of incredible powers, and the ways they attacked and countered each other kept the flow of battle shifting constantly between them.

[@Lazer-bp9lf]

I still can't get over how EPIC Sauron sounds to this day. His "Black Speech" still lingers in my mind all the time. Just imagine what Morgoth would've sounded like.

[@thanoseid2883]

morgoth would sound bloody terrifying.

[@gameuniverse5973]

Morgott would sound like Darth Vader but with a demon filter instead

[@protalghulnist4126]

Sounds like noob saibot or doctor claw

[@bobbyrabii6119]

Melkor would sound sophisticated and gentlemanly, Morgoth would sound like a volcano or tsunami talking. Just pure power

[@alessandromaccaroni8481]

Speaking of, I didn't get almost nothing of what they said. Can you help me?

[@BlackHei711]

The ring doesn't make the wearer invisible, it puts them in a spiritual plane. That's why when Frodo wore the ring, he saw the Wraiths in their spirit form, and why when Sauron wears the ring, he isn't invisible, because he lives on both planes.

[@god6384]

So the ring is basically useless for anyone else then Sauron? Except if you want to be invisible

[@JosephSmith-lm4ri]

I've heard multiple different descriptions of what's happening, but the most consistent one is that the ring amplifies ones natural abilities, while also seducing them to it's will.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

But it STILL does turn you invisible to the people around them as they can't see you at all, regradless of the ACTUAL implications so they weren't wrong to say that.

[@Rellana1]

@@god6384 It has many other abilities,but Frodo wasn't strong enough to use them. He was warned not to try as that would destroy him.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

@Shanghis Kahn Exactly what I am saying as well! He's just being extra here.

[@NickSibz]

The lines of dialogue in this are worth it alone. Sauron takes this easy though IMO. He has no weakness besides his own hubris when he doesnt perceive someone as a threat. He is basically a god and the embodiment of pure evil. The ending cinematic of him melting the ice throne is so (ironically) cold.

[@williamfadel4980]

To be fair, lorewise the Lich King would rank roughly equal to Sauron in terms of ‘god-likeness’ (not power) Lich King’s master ranks equal to titans (who ordered the universe, and are able to cleave planets in half). Lich King is known as the ‘god of death’ by many races ingame The relationship between the Lich King and the Jailor would be akin to Sauron / Melkor

[@taidghusflynnius]

Funnily enough, the lich king actually had less of a chance than a normal person, literally becaue he actually drew the gaze of the all-seeing eye

[@ericdalhoff3507]

0:32-Epic poses, dudes. 7:24-Well said, Wizard. 11:21-Even better! *16:03**-D.B. Announcer: FIGHT!* 17:41-Sauron's not done yet! 18:32-Sauron absorbed Arthus the Lich King's soul, putting an end to the lord of Warcraft 18:41-I was going for Sauron to win. *D.B. Aftermath:* **Sauron's seen sitting on the Lich King's throne.* **The now soulless-body of Arthus is seen reduced to ashes.*

[@hybridepsilon2099]

Little do people know, when Sauron said “i shall claim what is mine” he probably meant finally getting the reins of invincible to drop. Mans been probably raiding ICC for damn near a year by now

[@leonseuropeanislandadventu7398]

If its invisible, why can I still see it?

[@jakariashafin8685]

@@leonseuropeanislandadventu7398 invincible not invisible.

[@marcusbowman5666]

@@leonseuropeanislandadventu7398, r/woosh

[@leonseuropeanislandadventu7398]

@@jakariashafin8685 Duh dude, that's just how people used to troll about the mount back in the day in World chat. Just a small joke to those who know.

[@jakariashafin8685]

@@leonseuropeanislandadventu7398 oh ok.

[@onlymadethistowatchvideos6209]

Sauron is so smart, he waited until after the Nerf to fight the Lich King.

[@andylabardy242]

Pardon me, but................what??

[@onlymadethistowatchvideos6209]

@@andylabardy242 basically when the Lich King was first put into the MMO World of Warcraft, he was SUPER hard to beat. He was nerfed and now he’s a pushover

[@NN010]

@@andylabardy242 IDK. Either it’s something to do with balancing of the raid where you fight the Lich King or the retcons & general shortchanging Arthas went through in Shadowlands (WoW’s most recently released expansion). IDK, I could never get into WoW. Especially after I got into Final Fantasy XIV.

[@andylabardy242]

@@NN010 Ohhhhhh............Ok then. In any case, seems like Sauron got lucky thanks to LK's nerf or whatever. Either way, I appreciate both U & the OG poster's answers. Also, as I always tell myself: DB is simply all just entertainment!! Plain & simple!!!! Either way, Thanks alot dear folks!!

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

Not sure if he's more powerful in his physical body form or his spirit one.

[@bluedwarf1699]

A couple things to note about Sauron as well: He is never actually stated to wield a weapon whatsoever, not even the mace the movie had him use. Rather, Sauron is described as fighting, and killing, with his "bare hands"! Which is described as being blackened and searingly hot! Man slaughtered some of the greatest heroes to ever live with his HANDS. Also, his greatest weapon is actually his ability to convince dang near anybody of dang near anything. He convinced the Valar ( essentially gods ) that he wasnt a bad guy really after genociding millions of people for thousands of years. he convinced the Numenoreans that actually they should betray Eru, he convinced the elves that they should make the rings. he even convinced a man that if he only told him the whereabouts of his friend that Sauron would let him see his family. Only to promptly execute the man afterwards.

[@papapalps2415]

It's geniunely startling how easily the Internet breeds misinformation and delusion, at times, even for me. No, none of this is really true. Sauron is never really described in any real detail AT ALL, especially in his fight against the -adventuring party- Last Alliance; we know he burned Gil-Galad, but that doesn't inherently mean he literally was so monumentally stupid as to go out to fight 3-5 legendary heroes with NO WEAPON. He didn't 'convince' the Valar of anything, and the idea that he could or did legitimately fool them is so absurdly divorced from the actual source material as to be comical.

[@bluedwarf1699]

⁠@@papapalps2415just to reiterate, i do agree that misinformation spreads quite fast, especially by those that sound the surest, and am therefore glad that of my six or so statements of Sauron's doings, only two seemed to warrant pointing out, and only one was truly flawed while the other is strictly a point of interpretation. I see Sauron killing the greatest Heroes of the time, breaking the sword Anduril, and almost winning a monumental battle with only his Hands, hands blackened with soot and blazing hot like that of a furnace, as utterly terrifying and fantastical. While i disagree that Sauron must have had a weapon, if that is how you interpret him then who am i to disagree with your imaginings of a made up character. "You are unarmed?" "Always." "You stand alone." "Often." " you're the one who should be afraid." "Never." -Doctor Who.

[@Elbruhman6456]

The fact the lich King actually ripped his heart out before his transformation is either ironic or a touche

[@pokeyscorpion8224]

I love how Sauron’s breakdown is presented in such a Tolkien-esque way, very fitting Also the Black Speech whispering is just a really nice touch

[@multiverse_media2023]

Black Speech. The wicked language tongue of Mordor itself.

[@Kyleplaysgames567]

Sorry ladies Sauron is taken. He clearly put a ring on it.

[@ShiningSilvally]

That has to be the stupidest, most simple joke, NOT said by Boomstick. Way to take that trophy, Kyle.

[@cautarepvp2079]

yep

[@sweg-man200]

Man, the one ring to pun them all.

[@cdwarrior6582]

Is making bad puns a hobbit of yours?

[@tommoore2012]

@@cdwarrior6582 It’s an Eru of his ways.

[@g04234]

What is the worst way to loose : -getting his ring to fall in lava by accident during a fight between 2 hobbits -getting rekt by 25 nerds and a paladin with a shiny sword You decide

[@justinalicea1590]

I think Sauron's defeat, because he doesn't even get a chance to fight back against his demise. Made worse by how preventable his defeat would have been if Gollum wasn't there or if he didn't fall off the cliff.

[@firenze6478]

@@justinalicea1590 he was tripped by eru in the novels so atleast sauron has the excuse of divine intervention leading to his downfall

[@plaguelordardof6790]

How does a show based on high school boys bored VS. conversations get LotR lore more accurate than a multi-billion dollar company like Amazon?

[@ICTON123]

Cause one actually knows the series lol

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

I like how this Death Battle is basically Fire vs. Ice.

[@Blankyzs]

Zuko vs Shoto lol Edit: Ok I get it shoto uses Ice and fire lol stop sending backlash

[@kainingyao7873]

The soundtrack is going to be an epic song of ice and fire.

[@turboanimationchannel]

@@Blankyzs Doesn’t count because Todoroki uses fire & ice not just ice. Sauron just uses fire and Lich King just uses ice. Neither uses both.

[@olp3850]

@@Blankyzs that was more so fire vs fire and ice.

[@EdenFrost]

Its not at all

[@Vertigo6000]

My favourite line sauron speaks in all the movies is simply, "I see you." When something that powerful has It's full attention on you, I would be shitting bricks. Loved that you included it here.

[@knightmare3197]

I had instant flashbacks to Frodo seeing the Eye for the first time.

[@sceptilethehedgehog5862]

@@knightmare3197 Damn!!! I Thought I Was The Only One🤩🤩🤩

[@Fallenhell100]

It made it more badass when he says that after flexing his powers to make a volcano erupt

[@mwadams1]

One of the many battles where I'm like "this should end with them making out."

[@fulltimeshitposter3643]

Sauron wouldve won either way, but LK didnt actually lose on top of icecrown citadel, he was playing with the entire cast of heroes of azeroth and after he was done testing them, instantly killed them all with a word it was the light intervening to aid tirion that caused his death

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Imagine if a Warcraft raid party suddenly walked in on Sauron and the Lich King fighting.

[@mr-fh2be]

Party leader to group: "Should we sit back and watch, pick off the winner; or join in the fight?"

[@occultcenturion1131]

"Yeah, I think Imma stay away from that."

[@BeautifulBelladonna]

Party: Who the hell is that? That one person that knows LOTR: run.

[@cheese9466]

The one idiot in every raid party: *runs into the middle of the fight* "LEEEEROOOOOYYYYYYY JEEEENNNNKKIINNNNSSS"

[@eliasnilsson6604]

.....or an overleveled player going there for their weakly mount farm-run lol

[@TimeBucks]

Sauron is so smart

[@shubhananhe3572]

Good

[@djmvfkm7243]

Good

[@vennilamahavlogs1924]

Very nice

[@musafirbillal]

Good

[@babysonu6101]

Nice ☺️

[@alfredorivera5764]

The way I see it Lich King was made to be defeated by a party in combat, Sauron was made to be invincible except for ONE tiny and really specific weakness. That difference basically makes it so that Lich King has no actual way of winning

[@Genomsnittet]

well that's isn't true, either. Arthas basically oneshot you in order to turn your party into death knights. It is Tyrion who kills him in the end

[@Servellion]

@@Genomsnittet Wasn't even Tirion, but the use of the Light. Something DB completely ignored.

[@AlacrasEden]

*Party of 10 sees sauron kill lich king* "Sooooo.... what are our chances?"

[@connortheicon751]

32.3333% (repeating of course).

[@TheKing-rp9by]

LEROOOY JJJJJEEEENNNKINS!!!

[@derekquigley5816]

At least I have chicken.

[@heatseekerx51]

You know Sauron is evil, when a guy named "The Lich King" feels like an underdog protagonist in this fight.

[@multiverse_media2023]

Not even a 25 man raid team can stop Sauron.

[@codymcmanus9691]

@@multiverse_media2023 Bah ill solo him on my Blood DK NP lol

[@kokocaptainqc]

Lich king should battle the Witch-king since theyre pretty much the same....just that one was there first and the other is a ripoff

[@JackyMan22]

I rooted for Lich King. Aww man. >_

[@gamerstheater1187]

I was rooting for Sauron as the hero cause I found him a more lawful character

[@CalamityShreds]

When Lich King shouted "IMPOSSIBLE!!", it just reminded me of just how masterful the voice acting in this death battle is. This show is a treat.

[@thanagor7150]

Impossible is a line from wow. It's not their voice acting

[@CalamityShreds]

@@thanagor7150 I checked the credits and the names of the voice actors were different than the original. I don't believe that Death Battle borrows voices anymore.

[@thanagor7150]

@@CalamityShreds well, the other voice lines of arthas was not borrowed. But impossible was. He says the exact same thing in the exact same voice on top of icecrown when the ashbringer shatters frostmorne

[@superbenedetto3190]

@@thanagor7150 They didn't just copy and paste the audio from warcraft it was indeed their voice acting as the lich king was voiced by phillip sacramento in the credits the fact that it fooled you to think that proves how good he did it

[@gameuniverse5973]

I highly doubt they would voice act Sauron who harder to do but not voice act litch king

[@AngyPolarBear]

As much as I was excited to see this going in I knew Sauron was an easy win. Only one of these two evil gods is actually an immortal being

[@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384]

A god who pretends to be man, vs a man pretending to be a god.

[@drakedarkest1627]

4:51 I love this bit. It shows just how powerful sauron is. It's just that Sauron never expected a dimwit to eat it.

[@urmum9173]

I'm so glad someone finally represented Sauron's shapeshifting ability that's shown in the Silmarillion

[@ethanmcdonald420]

But the thing is... he lost that ability after the destruction of Numenor. Sauron was defiantly the mightier Lord, but as impressive as his endurance is, you don't go from getting literally smitten by Capital-G God without some crippling effects.

[@ItsButterBean1020]

@@ethanmcdonald420 technically, this fight was using SOM lore as part of a composite, meaning he’d keep that Also technically it’s said he lost the ability to take a fair form, meaning it’s possible he could take other shapes. The Death Battle Blog does mention this is meant to be Sauron at his prime

[@HirokDaralki]

@@ethanmcdonald420 In it it's said that he's no longer able to take the shape of his fair form or his Maiar form again, it never says he's unable to shapeshift completely after the fall of Numenor.

[@kingwizard341]

Sauron's Battle with Huan is epic and he got bodied by the best doggo ever Hahahha

[@ItsButterBean1020]

@@kingwizard341 Huan built different tbh Though in fairness, Sauron was weakened by Luthien as I recall

[@SwordlordRoy]

You guys left out Sauron's greatest feat... ...he won a Magical Singing Contest against THE Elf Lord, Finrod Felagund. This was without the One Ring and was so great the Elves dedicated an entire poem just to that event!

[@kylemerlo9488]

It's mentioned in the feats, actually. It states Finrod is one of the guys Sauron defeated. I didn't know it was a poem though.

[@rustkarl]

There’s been a few of “THE Elf Lord”s Fingolfin, Feanor, Elrond, Earendil…

[@rustkarl]

@@kylemerlo9488 There is a poem, and a really awesome rendition by Clamavi de Profundis that mixes it with Galadriel’s Namarië. The full thing here: He chanted a song of wizardry, Of piercing, opening, of treachery, Revealing, uncovering, betraying. Then sudden Felagund there swaying Sang in answer a song of staying, Resisting, battling against power, Of secrets kept, strength like a tower, And trust unbroken, freedom, escape; Of changing and of shifting shape, Of snares eluded, broken traps, The prison opening, the chain that snaps. Backwards and forwards swayed their song. Reeling and foundering, as ever more strong The chanting swelled, Felagund fought, And all the magic and miht he brought Of Elvenesse into his words. Softly in the gloom they heard the birds Singing afar in Nargothrond, The sighing of the sea beyond, Beyond the western world, on sand, On sand of pearls in Elvenland. Then the gloom gathered; darkness growing In Valinor, the red blood flowing Beside the Sea, where the Noldor slew The Foamriders, and stealing drew Their white ships with their white sails From lamplit havens. The wind wails, The wolf howls. The ravens flee. The ice mutters in the mouths of the Sea. The captives sad in Angband mourn. Thunder rumbles, the fires burn - And Finrod fell before the throne.

[@coadacatalin4510]

But does he stand a chance against Killabrimbor?

[@SwordlordRoy]

@@coadacatalin4510 Sauron captured Celebrimbor in the "War of the Elves and Sauron", and tortured him until Sauron was overthrown...so...probably?

[@agiar2000]

You know, one of the big things about BOTH of these particular dark lords is their command of VAST ARMIES. Rather than a purely 1-on-1 battle, I was almost expecting a big Orcs vs. Scourge RTS battle! Sauron vs. Lich King, who has better APM?

[@Hatneas]

If their armies go toe to toe, Arthas absolutely always wins. Undead armies are op when they can recruit from your dead

[@kokocaptainqc]

since Sauron literally created necromancers, he would just turn arthas armies against him...think about this...he invented undead and the power to raise them AND passed that power to necromancers that he created and thats just to take care of undead because then about 200k orcs, easterlings (basically all asians and arabic peoples), the more or less 100 mumaks (the giant mammoths), and basically everything you can call evil in middle-earth minus the balrog who is stubborn

[@snowj1ggles]

I would love to see some of the more obvious "comparisons" done. Gandalf VS Dumbledore or Saruman VS Voldemort

[@Genomsnittet]

Oh, so you mean likea spellcaster vs a swordsman? :P

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

Well while I don't know how Harry Potter works but its 2 Old men fighting 2 Angels enbodied in Old Men to limit their power so my bet is on Saruman and Gandalf.

[@koreancowboy42]

Gandalf.... who wields a ring of power? Also is a literal angel? Then even Saruman? Another angel? 😆 Against two wizards with wands? I'm sorry, but Gandalf wins against Dumbledore. Gandalf fought against stronger opponents. Saruman, the witchking (witch king broke his staff) the Balrog a literal demon beast that destroyed Gandalfs barrier of light and also they fought for days on a mountain. Then Saruman the white wizard whom defeated Gandalf and also fought against the nine ring wraiths with Elrond at Dol Guldur.

[@mrBluesky1986]

I want sauron v voldermort

[@derekquigley5816]

​@@mrBluesky1986Voldemort wouldn't stand anything even remotely resembling a chance against Sauron.

[@windknight4747]

Even though Arthas lost this battle, this death battle did more justice for him than WoW Battle of Azeroth. Edit: Sorry I meant Shadowlands

[@shawnwarrynn8609]

Don't forget the Dumpster fire that is Shadowlands.

[@gameuniverse5973]

I don't think so Sauron literally stole his chain and took his throne

[@BevvRatBites]

Oddly enough the hearthstone encounter probably did him the most justice out of any portrayal he's had.

[@uria3679]

@@shawnwarrynn8609 as long as people in China like it, it doesn’t matter what we say

[@shawnwarrynn8609]

@@uria3679 I think fans over there hate it too. Granted I stay clear of anything CCP related as it's likely BS.

[@WyverndalesMercy]

Lich King: “In this cold north you will find only death” Sauron:”There is no life in the void, only death”

[@intercontinentalballisticben]

nice sam pfp

[@ERYADEtjp5868]

you just rephrased there conversation. Thats like the most no effort comment ever

[@mehmeth9773]

@@ERYADEtjp5868 recap

[@KiotheCloud]

sauron sound alot like something from Starcraft protoss XD

[@Deathwing3019]

@@KiotheCloud he sounds a lot like Noob Saibot’s voice from MK11

[@steakinbacon8593]

Ok now my question is did Sauron get a rare mount drop from arthas.

[@user-xr3ct6dc4z]

Lol god that brings me back

[@derekquigley5816]

Now I'm just picturing him asking "Dude, where's my mount?" In that spooky voice of his.

[@jackolantern147]

I like the fact that when the Lich king stabs Sauron, he burns his body away to nothing. Because he's seen him manipulate the phantoms earlier and knows he's adept with necromancy.

[@Mister_Oddity]

Sauron's design is freaking badass

[@kadenbradley4034]

It's the shadow of war design

[@karthikbhalekar3052]

Ngl, but I prefer Peter Jackson's version. The long spikes on the helmet looks better then the shorter one's.

[@alexlegoboy3513]

@@karthikbhalekar3052 well its a shame we barely got to see it much

[@karthikbhalekar3052]

@@alexlegoboy3513 Ikr

[@multiverse_media2023]

@@kadenbradley4034 God, those games are so good.

[@Scouthedog1]

Man I do wonder what Tolkien would think about his character winning. You know after we get past the whole Internet existing in the first place discussion. Awesome episode as usual.

[@pile-o-nonsense3688]

He would probably ask himself from where Sauron got that mace (it was invented for the movie).

[@zuldan2008]

probably shake his head and wonder if he should have created him.

[@gameuniverse5973]

@@pile-o-nonsense3688 he would make a backstory on how Sauron got that mace

[@deanospimoniful]

He would find the whole concept of Death Battle to be silly and juvenile. But he's a stuffy old British man, so take that for what it is.

[@pile-o-nonsense3688]

@@gameuniverse5973 To be fair, killing people with his bare fists and fire sounds cooler then using some big mace

[@fangirl3323]

This takes "hot vs cold" to an entirely different level 😂

[@scottbuck1572]

Yeah one is a corrupted paladin, and the other is the Embodiment of Evil so powerful, he usurped his creator, becoming essentially the deity of darkness and ill-intent

[@kingson2104]

The raid for Sauron is a 25 man raid with one level 1 gnome holding a ring in his inventory, and the party has to carry him through ICC without dying.

[@HallowedKeeper_]

That would be amazing

[@johnfranklin87]

So it's not a raid, it's a 25 player escort mission 🤣🤣

[@kongmengyang1098]

@@johnfranklin87 gnome dies... mission failed

[@0kei]

What's the WOW equivalent of Gollum?

[@johnfranklin87]

@@kongmengyang1098 then you gotta start all over . . From the place where you first meet the escort 🤣😂

[@generaljedi8691]

Tonight on Deathbattle, Sauron burns ghosts, The Lich King starts a snow ball fight, and both have an Eye measuring contest to see who is more heartless.

[@thenerd-bot9847]

A staring contest that blows Captain America VS Deathstroke out of the water.

[@nobleneed]

Ery’ noice

[@SirMevan]

Not to mention that if Arthas had cut the one ring from Sauron's hand and destroyed his body, he would have been drawn to the ring and in turn would have inadvertently led to Sauron's return. That's kinda Sauron's trump card; if you take his power, you'll be led to give it back.

[@papapalps2415]

That isn't how the Ring works.

[@kokocaptainqc]

well lets say he somehow wins (impossible but ok) he then takes the ring, which enters his mind and makes him do something foolish that will get him killed very soon after...someday Sauron returns....the end

[@DexterousElk73]

These animations are so good! I’ve watched 4 of these back and learned more about these heroes/villains then I would have studying in a week!

[@caseyfarthing5660]

Sauron not only taking the KO but then sitting in his throne? Total disrespect and i love it

[@ItsButterBean1020]

Sauron killed a man for his chair lmao

[@justinanderson2460]

​@@ItsButterBean1020+ And it was damned worth it. Considering the weather conditions around My Doom and just the overall climate of Mordor in general, I imagine Icecrown being to Sauron what a tropical holiday destination would be to someone who lives in Alaska. Why not make the most of it a kill the guy who lives there so you can take over his home for when you're visiting and need a holiday house.

[@techsmechs2485]

@@justinanderson2460 Except backwards, as far as temperature, you mean?

[@larrychilders6599]

Well Sauron just got himself a new soul to power a soul gem courtesy of the Lich King

[@VEVRMedia]

👆

[@anya.enotably2004]

Probably the best death battle video I’ve ever seen, this is too cool

[@ComboFood]

This is one of my new favourite death battles it’s so cinematic too

[@daveTHEdirty]

I love how Sauron made the volcano erupt just to flex.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

Not just to “flex” but to help him see. It actually DID benefit Sauron from the heat of the volcano blowing away the snow that the lich king had covering around him, that's why he said "I see you". Which was MORE than just a callback line.

[@sarttee]

There is no volcano in Icecrown. Its a literal glacier.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

@@sarttee Yeah but it was just placed there for this fight only for dramatic effect.

[@sarttee]

@@Gadget-Walkmen yeah... alot of things in this video were made for dramatic effects.... Sauron fighting aganst Frostmourne with a regular mace lol

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

@@sarttee LOL What? That wasn't a "Regular mace" AT ALL, that's Sauron's iconic mace from the films, that should be clear.

[@travisdjuhana9967]

Sauron has more appearances in the fight than the entire LOTR appearance

[@QuintarFarenor]

Well in LOTR he's made to be a force of nature, ungraspable, unstoppable. If he were shown in humanoid form or too often, you would realize that it's a being that can be destroyed too.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

@@QuintarFarenor Sauron is THERE in the LOTR ring films but just more of a spirit with the "eye" than a humanoid outside the prologue of the first film.

[@plaguegnome]

Sauron is more of a Silmarillion character if they ever make a movie on this

[@robertbench5187]

Sauron has a lot of screentime in the Amazon's Rings of Power series.

[@TheManu1307]

@@robertbench5187 that would require one to suffer through Amazons Rings of Power series

[@kyltredragmire4939]

Gonna be honest, I did not expect Sauron to win. Sure, he's a more complex character, but WoW is crazy. Videogames just tend to be more extra.

[@JonP1245]

Exactly

[@Servellion]

They did just start throwing Sauron some bones. Shattering Frostmourne without a Light-embued strike from a sword made from the core of a light being for one. They just treat it like a mundane magic blade.

[@kyltredragmire4939]

@Servellion Good point, but neither was Narsil. It was also a super magical blade forged by powerful weaponsmiths. I follow their logic on that one. Breaking fancy swords is Sauron thing. I think it was more for comedy or to visually show how out of the lich king's league they believe Sauron to be.

[@Servellion]

@@kyltredragmire4939 If you still follow their logic on that one then you're not understanding just WHY that is so damn stupid. Frostmourne was literally forged by one of big gods of death and was considered one of his finest works. Breaking it took multiple factors, only a few of which Sauron meets. But before you might ask. I'm not saying this somehow gives Arthas a chance. No, the result is the same, he still loses.

[@DamontheDemon7]

I LOVE it when Death Battle gets movie level quality animation! And Sauron was awesome! Makes me wish there was an outfit like his to buy and cosplay. I mean, a full body armor with a crown set like that? Tell me that’s NOT badass!!!

[@Liberator1917]

Sauron already had a Lich-King, who was vastly inferior to him in power. it figures that he could solo another one.

[@Articabyss64]

One does not simply watch Death Battle without getting Excited

[@rogue_2k374]

That’s how I felt for the first episode of season 9 part 2. I had no real emotional connection to either, and neither was my preferred matchup for them, plus some ass hat spoiled it.

[@Riger82]

I don't get excited any time there's a toon character on one side. Toons can't lose against non-toons.

[@rogue_2k374]

Ignore Carlos, I’m fifty percent sure he’s a troll since he said the exact opposite of what happens in both the SpongeBob and Halloween episodes.

[@resinliantprints2793]

I'm pretty excited. If they stay accurate to Tolkien's legendarium then Sauron is going to be pretty OP.

[@andoionmalvon5328]

@@carlosblanco3189 nope Sauron wins

[@EvilsDeathAzul]

Congrats to my good friend Ryan Solis for his wonderful voice acting for Sauron. You were amazing!

[@ThenewTchannel]

It was actually scary how good he was here

[@EvilsDeathAzul]

@@ThenewTchannel I always enjoy the stuff he does. Definitely an amazing VA and good friend

[@darthludicrous99]

Loved his voice, it was so badass!!!

[@ahmadsalman3336]

Ain't he that Noob Saibot dude from MK11?

[@EvilsDeathAzul]

@@ahmadsalman3336 No. Sean Chiplock voiced Noob Saibot.

[@MrSteffe1990]

Ner'zul was merged with Arthas. Gul'dan is an entirely different character

[@mycontentcreation5264]

It’s cool to see Sauron actually doing something then being vague about he’s or the ring’s power.

[@BUnitMN-T]

"The sad fact is, there will always be a Lich king. But there will never or ever will be another Witch King"

[@multiverse_media2023]

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[@preds43]

Wanna know what's funny about this? It's not even true anymore