Red Dead Redemption - John Kills All The Old Gang Members

[@KrishMod520]

I’m pretty sure RDR2 story line wasn’t even a thing when they made RDR, and yet they were able to tie both games so perfectly

[@ifcpyl12]

it was, there were a lot of references to arthur throughout rdr

[@bigboybandon6113]

@@ifcpyl12 Arthur didnt exist until 2, care to give few examples?

[@ViniGotRobbed]

they knew they would make rdr2 long before they made rdr1

[@osamaahmed2924]

It can't be possible to tie game like this definitely they have a whole story before but they work more on rdr2 just because it have a good story ever

[@camilomsn4807]

@@ifcpyl12no it wasn’t, Arthur didn’t even exist, there was just a big vague concept but solid enough that they filled all the blanks with a new story and in RDR2 epilogue a fine enough explanation why John doesn’t like talking about Arthur.

[@someone-cz9fc]

After the second game, their deaths hid different, knowing how close they were, almost like family

[@SavageSlayer]

Agreed specially Dutch

[@uncleiroh6848]

This legendary story made by geniuses makes me depressed 😞 red dead depression 😢

[@RyanTheDark]

​@@SavageSlayerI feel more sorry for Javier but even understand he chose his own fath by remaining blind. Dutch treated Hosea and Arthur badly. They're supposed to be partners, but he certainly doesn't treat them like one. He didn't listen to them, he yelled at Hosea and Arthur when he's coughing or in pain, and he makes Hosea sleep on the cold, hard, dirty ground. He even openly ignores him in Colter just like with Arthur in Beaver Hollow, in front of the other men, and rides off when they tried to stop him from doing something-in Hosea's case robbing Cornwall's train, and Arthur when it came to going to save Abigail. I'm not saying they don't have a rich history or good moments, but the bad moment overshadows the good.

[@rayb8732]

@@RyanTheDarkbut there is a difference, he has known them for almost his entire life as an outlaw. They've been trough a lot so he could say more to them than to others

[@HadoukenHero]

Replaying rdr2 and wanted to watch these again, Thanks for uploading!

[@SavageSlayer]

Enjoy😊

[@HaroldOctal]

after Arthur died he hunted all those who betrayed them

[@JesusIsKingTheLord]

Dutch just sounds crazy

[@josh_miester_x511]

After playing RDR2, maybe he always was.

[@JWeini]

he still has a plan

[@The_AmazingRoger]

@@JWeini this....this is a good one....

[@tsetaerglife]

He always was a bit messed up since rdr2

[@toddpacker1015]

Always was

[@LFPman]

I really wonder what it was like for players before RDR2 existed. You practically took John’s word for it how Bill, Javier and Dutch were old friends that were practically brothers that fell out.

[@supercai69420]

When I was a kid I wondered if I was missing a game. How the characters knew each other but I didn't take it too seriously

[@director_t6686]

@@supercai69420I actually thought the same thing. Then coming up with some synopsis on how the undead nightmare story line might be connected. You can near npcs talk about the jade mask in Saint Denis though which is cool

[@roflc0re]

It was still one of the best games ever made, I played the first one on release night, amazing times

[@ryderls2729]

I just saw the whole thing as a revenge story but RDR2 revealed everything in a whole new light.

[@jalenbobo668]

In the 2nd game they betrayed John in the first place and they choose to listen to micha and it’s their own fault

[@peromechus9806]

Arthur and John were personally betrayed by Dutch but Javier and Bill weren’t. They didn’t have a reason to believe anything Arthur said; if anything, they had a reason to NOT believe him because that’s DUTCH. Dutch would never do something like that, right? He took us in when nobody else would.

[@carlosescamilla5260]

2:47 Hey i've never noticed the little glimpses of "american venorm" in the background!!

[@morganf.1562]

It's the ambient music, you can hear it in free roam from time to time

[@VaultRadio]

Seems to be John's main theme to an extent

[@imjonathan6745]

@@VaultRadio john's leitmotif

[@Human-sobohan-Allah]

The only problem is it’s clearly shown that important characters from rdr2 and the gang wasn’t even a concept in rdr 1 even if we leave Arthur characters like Sadie, Charles, and even Micah cant just never been mentioned

[@ybicakrovi451]

yeah that's a problem with prequels, there's always gonna be inconsistents, retcons or straight up plot holes

[@kawaiionee-chan9557]

@@ybicakrovi451Well the way I see it, no one wants to talk and even think of Micah. And the other 3 well had their ending which is good ones in their own way so they aren’t targets like that like front liners

[@hellowerewolf]

they handled it perfectly. don’t see it as a problem at all

[@misterperfect6631]

Hopefully they remastered the dialogue to make it flow with RDR2

[@exortor]

Imo they should make a remastered version with updated dialogue mentioning the likes of Arthur, Micah, etc..... would pay for it no doubt

[@hafl4364]

When I first played it on xbox 360, I was like: “Why should I care about them? I don’t even know who they are” This year I am playing rdr2 for the first time, after this I got to replay the first one

[@Shadaharu5]

Playing RDR after RDR2 hits different, a whole new game.

[@himate1666]

Dutch saying John 10:54 11:31 11:45 12:04 12:30 14:01 14:42 14:54 15:57 16:39 16:47 16:59 17:27 17:38 17:53 18:20 18:49

[@LegosOnLegos]

You forgot 17:55

[@himate1666]

​@@LegosOnLegos ill add it

[@PigeonMayne]

1738 aye

[@shotto_z4790]

JAAAHN

[@DarricShaw]

"lets go find somebody else we can annoy" At least they own it

[@CFox2023]

Wonder if that was foreshadowing for a future game? Or was it just a cliff hanger ending?

[@ILUV-NV-B.B-BCS]

I wish they made a remake of rdr1 literally just adding som lines about the old gang and mentions of people like Sadie Charles and Arthur ofc and giving John some more emotion when he has to capture or kill the old gang.

[@elebanorbxd]

0:46 "You were as my brother" *literally 0 dialogues between each other in rdr2*

[@619KJ]

Nope they did have convos in rdr2

[@Falcon-699]

Nope, I guess you weren't around the camp much.

[@lc4979q]

Wrong. Plenty of interactions if you actually play the game

[@shloopydoopersontheloreguy9069]

They had a really cool drunken heart to heart at the end of chapter 2 party. They have loads. Bill has a very cordial relationship with John.

[@dardosalinas4426]

Thats why he laughs because he know he is lying.

[@jannekaarne9537]

The only thing that seriously bug me about RDR2 is... After finishing RDR2 wanting to continue the story to its end, you gonna lack some pixels... These two games would be absolutely lovable with the same graphics to be completed from sequel to prequel... I hope you Rockstar Games realize this when you reveal the story in its full, realizing to reveal the traumatic truth of Dutch's youth...

[@mikemccross350]

15:45 always chuckled about his timing

[@psychofilm6976]

After rdr 2, playing rdr feels….different….

[@SavageSlayer]

Agreed 😥😞👌

[@jj-ij1kz]

Feels even more like a masterpiece

[@MitchFace]

This really hits hard after seeing how ride or die Bill was about getting Jack back from the Braithwaites

[@danieldavis2292]

wait, so anyone in the gang could be Jack's real father?

[@Protantagonist]

This version of Dutch, Javier or John is somehow completely different.......looks and feels different than the ones in RDR2.

[@Human-sobohan-Allah]

For me its only Javier it feels like it was forced but for John and Dutch it’s completely understandable compared to there progression as characters in rdr2 especially John he’s mature and calm much like Arthur

[@ThisHandleSystemCanGetNicked]

@@Human-sobohan-Allah There relationship feels very mild, like just some old friends. They don't feel like John was Dutch's "son" like we see in RDR2.

[@imjonathan6745]

its been like 15 or 16 years after micah has died what did you expect

[@nintendoman8915]

​@@imjonathan6745It's only 4 years or really 3 years and 9 to 10 months

[@toddpacker1015]

​@@ThisHandleSystemCanGetNickedDutch didnt give an F about John he left him to die multiple times

[@RyanTheDark]

Oh, if only Lenny was at Beaver Hollow. I'm unsure if Sean would have sided with Arthur since he was very loyal to Dutch.

[@GoofyAhhProductions9936]

Micah likely would’ve shot Sean in the same way he did to Susan because Sean couldn’t make a decision on who to side with and Lenny likely would’ve been shot during the horse chase sequence

[@RyanTheDark]

@GoofyAhhProductions9936 I can buy Micah shooting Sean unless he develops into a good shot and takes him down with him. That is of course if Sean doesn't side with Dutch. But I don't think Lenny would die either way. He is a sharpshooter and a good sniper. It's possible he would be able to land shots against Cleet and Joe. And on the mountain, being young and relentless, I doubt he would leave Arthur and thus take Micah out when he's too busy fighting Arthur. At the end of the day, Lenny is smart and would likely take advantage of Micah's distraction as Micah wanted to fight Arthur to death.

[@GoofyAhhProductions9936]

@ yeah your right on Lenny now that I think about it

[@nintendoman8915]

What people dont get is that yes. Arthur wasnt planned during the PRODUCTION of rdr1. But right after the game was released and the second was being planned, they wanted to make a new character called Arthur and explain the story of the Van Der Linde gang. This would have been only 6 months to a year after rdr1 so you could technically say its close enough to where they starting thinking about Arthur.

[@andremesquita2850]

This game could have a remaster, to look like RDR 2.

[@ancientragerv2561]

Different engines

[@timmy8367]

7:13 Damn that Sunset looks good.

[@Human-sobohan-Allah]

I like John in 1st game he was calm straight forward and cool

[@UnDeadBobus]

"when I'm gone, they'll just fund another monster. They have to, to justify their wages" Dutch knew all along they would go after John next...godddamn

[@josh_miester_x511]

John keeps talking how they left him to die, but doesn't bring up Aurthur once. Lol

[@fernandonavarro2789]

I might be wrong but it just might be a thing where the idea of Arthur Morgan didn’t exist since this came out before rdr2

[@josh_miester_x511]

@fernandonavarro2789 I know. It's just funny how pivotal of a character Arthur is in 2, only for him to (seemingly) be forgotten in 1.

[@shafizdm]

@@josh_miester_x511 another theory is that john was so devastated by arthur's death that he pretend like arthur didn't even exist

[@RyanTheDark]

You could take the "You have forgotten a lot more important people than me" line from the Strange Man as a reference to Arthur.

[@josh_miester_x511]

@@RyanTheDark oh, I forgot about him. Ironically enough.

[@lucasmackey2808]

18:48 Our time is passed, John.

[@glizzy5154]

damn didnt think they made impore such a huge moment in rdr2

[@BellaRazgriz]

Dammit Bill & Javier.. Arthur warn you both when you guys changing side.. 🤨

[@JuanFranciscoSanda]

After RDR2, the first game feels so dark...

[@MitchFace]

Dutches obsession with harming women is really disturbing. I don’t think I ever really realize that until after re-watching this and the second game

[@GazBeasley]

They need to do a proper remake of this game and add some dialogue that mentions arthur

[@jackbizzell7136]

Our memes have passed, John.

[@Human-sobohan-Allah]

Bill is talking like John was higher level in the gang weird they didn’t care about that

[@ancientragerv2561]

He was one of Dutch’s sons. Also everyone was on a higher level bill, who was seen as an idiot.

[@hesam4270]

Dutch is just so fu**ed up... I feel bad for him

[@ThisHandleSystemCanGetNicked]

I don't know why they couldn't just let John go. He'd be no problem for them.

[@franksound6922]

RDD1 felt amazing when iit was released. Really enjoyed it … and it of course i had no clue how much Rock Star will take it to another level later P.S. It baffles me, how they got the vocal effects wrong though. It s out in the open and all the voices have small room ambience. That is very odd

[@DH-TV]

Why do i have a memory of going back to the origional fort - where john is shot at the start - but with a gatling gun and killing bill williamson and the gang there?

[@Mxmario3]

Guess Henry the stickman wasn’t the only one FIRE IN THE HOLE 15:46

[@JesusIsKingTheLord]

W video

[@kalebpowell1975]

Imagine rdr3 as Dutch and making the gang and the ending is black water

[@Leanzazzy]

Damn, John is so useless compared to Arthur. Gets knocked out by everything and can't even carry out a single job properly. No wonder he gets taken out of commission for several weeks simply because of a wolf scratch 😂

[@oussamabenothmane4322]

Rdr 1 needs a remake NOW

[@rashadlucas9412]

Always confused me why there was cars in red dead but rd2

[@petermj1098]

RDR2 is a prequel, RDR1 is set later.

[@-JavCold-]

I haven't played rdr1 yet, i played rdr2. I have a question... Javier didnt die after all, no? So he's the only one who is still alive if i am not wrong from these characters, no?

[@scottmurphy4278]

If John brings in Javier alive, the government executes him afterwards.

[@-JavCold-]

@@scottmurphy4278 it would be cool to see Javier in rdr3 xdddd

[@RyanTheDark]

​@@scottmurphy4278I imagine what's likely is that they tell the people they have killed him but they tortured him and then kill him around the same time as they killed John.

[@Willi98958]

Please do remastered RDR1 with RDR2 graphics and events

[@GtaXkzyw]

I just have rdr2 does john kill them for Arthur ??

[@SavageSlayer]

Yeah and for betraying him

[@user-hx6gs9rq7u]

He only goes after them because the government kidnapped his family and forced him to. He doesn’t care about revenge he just wants his family back

[@Lucasio99]

Arthur didn’t exist when rdr came out.

[@GtaXkzyw]

@@Lucasio99 in the story rdr2 is before rdr1 bro

[@Lucasio99]

@@GtaXkzyw I know but when rdr came out rockstar had not created Arthur yet

[@MaxPayne007games]

is that the switch version of the game?

[@Applekinz]

No??????????????? I’m so confused why you think this.

[@Tabi-Kun]

No, switch wasn’t even a thing when this game came out. This is the first rdr, not rdr2

[@FlashingFireGames]

@@Tabi-KunRed Dead 1 is on the Switch and has been for a while now.

[@machosadness]

​@@ApplekinzBecause it's also available for the Switch.

[@OGYouTuber05]

Why does Dutch sound like Dr. Phil?😂

[@snowmeezy832]

18:06 Dutch got that from Oprah Winfrey (The Color Purple 🟣) "ALLS MY LIFE I HAD TO FIGHT" !!! LOL 😂😆

[@robloxguylolew]

So johns a lawman now? Never played rdr1?

[@gavinshirley]

The feds kidnapped and threatened to kill his family if he doesn't kill the other members. People say Micah is bad but Edgar Ross is just pure evil.

[@CaptainCock-Strong]

Not a lawman, more like a bounty hunter since The law took John’s family in exchange for his old gang.

[@bigdog8928]

He’s blackmailed by the government to kill em (they got his family captured)

[@ZekeTheGamingPotato]

​@Wanbli-t7rbro, not everyone's gonna be able to play every game in existence.

[@Marioandsonic114]

⁠@Wanbli-t7r Bro can you stop with this kids these days stuff it’s getting old and annoying listen here people have a right to play whatever they want to play if they don’t like rdr1 they don’t have to play it it’s there choice and did you ever think that maybe there’s some adults out there that never played rdr1 as well what are you going to do next say that about elderly people for not playing it cause they didn’t grow up with video games

[@Mr.EdwinGomez]

I wouldn’t know any better than to join dutches gang again

[@DevilRockso]

I never actually liked bill xD I remember in the saint denis assault to the train station I killed the people I was supposed to just steal, and dutch said "NOO ARTHUR, THAT'S NOT THE WAY WE DO THINGS" and then he became worse than even me :/

[@ancientragerv2561]

7:01 Could either be a straight lie or the next red dead game.

[@tasosss38]

this is an entire different RDR. They would have never based RDR2's story to this. That's why Arthur deserves a better end.

[@RicklessSanchez]

They never agree with Dutch so they all their own. Billy got lucky gang........weak gang but more.

[@K4Bb000]

4:10 lul

[@AliCandan-kz3ct]

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