Saw milling lap siding for our hoop house

In this video, I mill some of our Virginia Pine logs into thin lap siding to put on our hoop house. Cam helps me install the first side of the west wall.
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[@jbbrown7907]

I love hand nailing, a forgotten art form, skill.

[@johngalt4769]

That's going to be a nice hoop house

[@Downeastwaves]

Thanks, fun watching!

[@jbbrown7907]

Shirtless in January!

[@jbbrown7907]

When we cut what you are cutting, we would cut what we called "D boards." We would leave the last slab. The live edge would be our exposed edge.

[@lakeandtrailresale]

Its really looking good!

[@larrybourne8430]

Enjoy your videos and narrative and look forward to your build.

[@RedToolHouse]

Thanks!

[@robertmalis4493]

Nice work Troy

[@Canada1608]

Another great video, thank you so much for your work in making all these, very inspiring :-) !

[@deanbarr5740]

Gonna be nice Troy. My neighbor who lives down the holler from me did this to his home. I was surprised as to how good it looked when finished. Makes it nice having your own mill to produce your lumber. Also having your structure built this way will help prevent varmits from getting into your birds. Take care my friend, hope your family gets feeling better soon.

[@RedToolHouse]

Thanks, Dean. I think they are back to normal now (whatever that is)

[@Tsiri09]

Coming right along

[@williamj.stilianessis1851]

Morning Troy, This is one beautiful green house. We live in a much more northern climate, (Vermont ten minutes from Canada) We may need some auxiliary heat to carry us through winter but I really like the overall look and design of the building. Great work. Thank you for sharing.

[@RedToolHouse]

I know people further north do the two layers of plastic with a fan to keep them inflated.

[@petruzzovichi]

Another quality video. Thanks much for your time and effort to share.Wishing you nothing but the best.Long time subscriber in N Idaho

[@RedToolHouse]

Thanks, Peter!

[@shawnfortenberry5941]

Looks good

[@ubetchya78]

Looks good! It's been days since you filmed this, so I hope by now your family is all restored to good health! Being sick sucks.

[@RedToolHouse]

Yeah, they are better now. Just me that needs an improvement.

[@charleyandsarah]

That works will, although I'd recommend cutting 5/8 thick...i played around with thin stuff awhile back and it gets very prone to warping, especially at 8 inch wide. You may be able to get away with thinner if you use 4 inch wide boards, but 5/8 seems to work well for siding and fence pickets

[@RedToolHouse]

Yeah, I will keep an eye on it and do a follow up.

[@LanceSheppard]

Awesome work! How i envy your land and mill! Im surrounded by 100 acres almost next door in south west Virginia of farm land on my 1.3 acre lot . The farm is family owned but still no trees hardly! Gob bless buddy!

[@RedToolHouse]

Thanks!

[@HamiltonvilleFarm]

Good video Troy

[@RedToolHouse]

Thanks!

[@fisherman5065]

troy i cut lap siding out of eastern wight ceder for a 130 year old heritage house it had square lap siding 5inch x 1/2 . sawed about 200 board feet it,s looks great. done it on my home made ban sawmill

[@RedToolHouse]

I bet that looked awesome!

[@NTMDTR205605]

the bottom edge of a siding board should be touching lower piece of siding. If there is a gap between the lower board and lower edge of upper siding board water will wick up to the top of the lower board and inside. Wind can also drive water up on top of lower board.

[@raylivick1996]

To let the rain run off siding and not soak in running away from thehouse

[@hotrodpetesgarage699]

The bevel is for weather sealing and rainwater runoff. You save no material at all by cutting bevel siding. You overlap the horizontal exterior siding when installing it on the structure, and you can maintain the proper rainwater runoff angles when overlapping one board on the next one by cutting the siding on a bevel. That's it.

[@julier1080]

You absolutely do save material! Let’s say you’re making 1/2” with no bevel. So for 2 boards from the cant you need a total of 1 1/4” (to allow for the two 1/8” kerfs). To make 1/2” bevel, you only need 1”. It’s not a lot, but after 4 pairs of bevel you’ve gained another inch of usable cant. On a good sized log that could amount to another half dozen boards.

[@hotrodpetesgarage699]

I make bevel siding on my bandsaw mill with a bevel siding attachment. I take a 1"X6" board and cut it corner to corner leaving me with two 3/4"X6" beveled boards to apply to my exterior walls as siding. There is no waste and no magical boards appear out of thin air. I start with a given number of board feet of siding, and I end with the same number of board feet. Have you ever actually band sawed lumber, or is your comment above based on something else?

[@julier1080]

I have an LT15 and have sawn beveled siding. My comment above explains the math. You said you get 2 pieces of siding from a 1” board. You can’t do that unless you are beveling.

[@hotrodpetesgarage699]

First, let me apologize to you. I just re-read my original comment and it might have sounded snarky, which was not my intent. Sorry 'bout that. I assert again that cutting saw timber on a bevel does not increase the board feet of lumber you recover from a log. A board 1" thick, 12" wide and 10 feet long is 10 board feet. If you cut that board corner to corner to create two beveled siding boards still results in 10 board feet between the two boards. You do not get more usable wood from a log by bevel-cutting it.

[@julier1080]

No need to apologize, I realize I probably didn’t clarify. You are correct about board feet, all else being equal (same kerf, same number of cuts). But siding is not figured in board feet, it’s figured in lineal feet. So when you take that 1” board and cut it in half, you have doubled the lineal feet of siding from it, making our goal to get the most lineal feet from the log, yes? So back to the math- you said you are beveling a 1” board to get two 3/4” pieces of siding. But to saw it the way Troy did, and get two pieces of 3/4” siding, would take a 1 5/8” board (1 1/2” + kerf). Meaning your bevel cut is almost 50% more efficient. Troy is sawing 1/2” flat. Thus each piece uses 5/8” with kerf. 2 pieces uses 1 1/4” from the cant. If instead he cut 1/2” beveled, he could get 3 pieces from 1 3/8” of the cant. Hope that explains it better!

[@RANDALLOLOGY]

Betcha that was one job you really got BOARD with. Lol

[@allen6903]

One way to fix some of this weld a hoop to each side in a couple places on arms of front end loader run a rope through them to reach to operator on tractor and to log. That way when setting on tractor you can pull log on either side getting it parallel to saw. That way no one is at sawmill to get crushed. Make a one man operation a lot easier.

[@genemciver3425]

Red Poppy Ranch put a bevel cut along the top and bottom of each board to dispel water

[@arthursoctomah9175]

Nice..

[@MySliceOfHeavenoutdoors]

Hey Troy, the taper is so there is not as big a gap on the sides when you overlap the boards

[@RedToolHouse]

Good to know

[@jbbrown7907]

I have never seen a Stihl start first pull.

[@philipshaffer3802]

At around the 2 minute mark you asked if anybody knew why lap siding was cut the way it was. Years ago (40+) I read a book on woodcutting "back in the day" and it showed drawings and pictures of them mounting the log on what looked like a giant lathe tailstock at both ends. The carriage would then run the log over the gigantic circular saw blade. Workers would then rotate the log fractionally then run it again. This method generated 100% quarter-sawn siding out of a tree trunk with the circular saw sawmills of the time. Makes sense that siding would have the bevels if that was the common methodology. Of course, large diameter straight tree trunks were much more available back then than now.

[@mattcampbell4135]

It’s amazing that you are shirtless at the beginning of February!! It was -40 here in Sunny Alberta Canada at 8am on February 7/21!!! If you made forks out of pipe to pin into your tractor bucket, it would make loading logs onto your mill 10 times easier and safer. Can also put cut lumber back onto forks to move around and stack with way less handling. Remember, work smarter not harder, and the best way to do that is to give the job to the laziest person. He will figure out the best way to do it (Bill Gates).

[@dehavenfamilyfarm]

Nice sawmill! We have one, but it is more basic than yours lol

[@Mate2Frio]

Would it work when going solo put a rope at each end of the log and pull them from the driver's seat?

[@RedToolHouse]

Good Idea!

[@jbbrown7907]

If asked, your veiwers would pay to come help you running the saw mill.

[@jbbrown7907]

I thought your family were all languishing on their death beds?

[@eddeyq129]

Very nice But you will save more time if you use a nail gun.

[@davidj.mackinney6568]

You are to hard on your self.

[@JW-kt5ls]

Your camera work makes me dizzy. Don't move so fast and you hardly showed any lap siding cutting WAY too much talking. 5 thumbs down.

[@davidkirkman2223]

Looks good