Comparing New Woodland Mills HM130Max to the Old HM130 | Differences may surprise you

[@sawingwithsandy]

Correction- HM130max blade length is 157.5” Here’s the full dimensions for its blades 157.5″ x 1.25″ x 0.042″ x 7/8″

[@davidthayer9450]

Enjoy your videos. Just made my first cuts today on my Woodlander HM130 MAX. Watching your videos helped me decide on the purchase and I learn new tips whenever I watch them. Today I learned about the guard for the log stop as I had not understood it's purpose until I saw your video. Thank you for sharing and I'll keep watching.

[@sawingwithsandy]

That’s great to hear David! Always fun making the first few cuts

[@mikej1389]

Good Morning Sandy- I have a HM130 Max XL on a trailer- one upgrade I did with mine was add a hour meter that runs off the spark plug wire. The supplied Hr meter while on a trailer it records all vibration so when driving it around it is recording and add ghost hours. If you are diligent with oil changes by hrs then it will be inaccurate. I also added a stronger gas shock to the lap siding (1250Nm) attachment to raise and lower the head more easily with the head being heavier. So far it has been doing us well and been fun to learn to turn logs to useful lumber while clearing a 2 acre lot.

[@sawingwithsandy]

That's a very good point Mike about the hour meter and the head raising idea. Thanks for sharing

[@leslubiesdetienne]

Thanks for this video! I'm on a couple of facebook groups on sawmilling and lumber and there's always a lot of interest on woodland mills. I've been steering people to your channel! Good stuff!

[@sawingwithsandy]

Thanks I appreciate that!

[@mikechristensen9744]

Sandy, two things about the blade guard for the adjustable blade guide that you will figure out over time. It is just one more thing to have to take off when changing blades and, more importantly, whenever a blade breaks or comes off it will bend the guard as it a very light gauge metal---easy to bend back into shape but just a pain to have to do it. I took mine off and haven't used it since.

[@sawingwithsandy]

That’s good to know Mike. I can see the extra step now that you mention it

[@markhiscock2693]

I found the exact same thing with my guard. It’s now tucked away in my parts drawer.

[@nicko978]

Same, it was just in the way. Absolutely love the 130max.

[@anthonysimpson2847]

mine was removed on the first blade change and never reinstalled.

[@donfrance3]

Hey Sandy .... your videos help us out a bunch. We love our sawmill machine like yours. This has made trees which otherwise would be just firewood into very useful lumber for building projects. Thank you.

[@sawingwithsandy]

Happy to help Don and glad you're enjoying the videos

[@bradjkski]

Sandy, stumbled upon your video and very happy I did. Owned a Woodmizer LT15 years ago and not thinking sold it. Recently decided to build another log home on my land and found Woodlander Mills. After doing some research I purchased the HM130 Max and two extra bunks so I can do my Rafter beams. Just waiting for delivery and some snow melt to get started. Your video was very thorough and informative! Thank you! I feel now that I made the right choice. Subscribed to your channel as well. Brad

[@sawingwithsandy]

Great to have you here on the channel. Also great to hear about the new sawmill. I'm sure you'll enjoy it

[@jepsdog3859]

Hi Sandy I’m new to the sawmill world , I’m sure learning volumes from your videos, I purchased a hm126 from Dan at Woodland forest products in Wisconsin, installed on his welded trailer this month, I’m really impressed with the quality of this tool. For my first project other than sawing stickers I will start on framing lumber for a roof structure to keep the weather off similar to what you constructed and a drying shed . Thanks for the great videos your a great teacher 🪵👍🏻

[@sawingwithsandy]

I’m glad you’re liking the videos and I’m happy to have ya here

[@ricks8158]

Great video.. I have an older (2015) Norwood HD36 and really like it.. Couple of things I think are nicer on your new new mill vs my Norwood. Width of Cut.. Norwood is limited to 28" unless I remove a blade guide.. Your rail system for the adjustable blade guide is superior (IMO), Ability to change oil without making a mess. Again.. Thanks for posting these great Videos .. Keep on sawing..

[@sawingwithsandy]

Thanks for sharing your experiences there Rick

[@derekbueckert7428]

I just got my 2022 Woodland hm 130 max a week ago. I have been running only circular saw mill so far and there is definitely a bit of a learning curve to the band mills but im finally getting it figured out. I plan to do a bit of a review on this mill as well but not until I get it figured out better and complete several things I still need. so far I must say I love the customer service they have been very understanding and willing to help me with anything I needed. but ill wait until I get everything sorted out

[@AdamPlayFarms]

I just got my 130max and your assembly video is helping me out. Thanks for doing that!

[@sawingwithsandy]

That’s great to hear. Happy sawing

[@aspendell209]

Excellent comparison. You may want to put some kind of screen material over the open vent tube on your new lubrication system. pantyhose material and a rubber band work well. Otherwise sawdust will work into your liquid supply thru that opening and eventually will affect your valve, usually stuck open.

[@sawingwithsandy]

Not a bad idea. Thanks for sharing

[@mikechristensen9744]

I agree. Right away I just used what was lying around...a small(orange) wire connector fit right on the end of the tube and just drilled 1/16" horizontal holes in it for venting. It has never come off.

[@georgeweishaar4518]

Back flush through fill port to clean out breather. Quick and easy

[@Andrew_From_NB]

Hey Sandy, excellent video noting the updates and changes! One thing to mention as well is it has an hour meter I noticed, also having the vent for the lube tank will also act as a gauge of the level in the tank, I like that little addition. Thanks for having us over cheers!

[@sawingwithsandy]

Yeah that hour meter does come in handy. Alteast keeps me updated on how long between blade changes and oil changes

[@trentarbeau8753]

Excellent job explaining the difference between the two HM130 and the HM130MAX

[@sawingwithsandy]

Thanks Trent!

[@mikecameron5322]

Thanks to your foresight I added cotter pin to my log clamps and log stops . They fit right inside the roll pins

[@erickschmidt432]

Thanks for a nicely informative video. I'm ordering my 130 max this week.

[@sawingwithsandy]

Glad to have ya along for the video Erick

[@kellydorney3514]

Appreciate the thorough comparisons! 😄

[@sawingwithsandy]

Thanks Kelly. Glad you liked the video!

[@kenbowers8423]

Great comparison video Sandy. Good morning from Peterborough...a chilly -2C this morning @ 7:30 am considering it is the end of April, oh well. Looking forward to some mobile milling in the future. Stay safe and healthy.

[@sawingwithsandy]

Was certainly a chilly one this morning for sure Ken. I'm hoping the bug season is a quick one this year. Hope you're keeping well.

[@TheClackShack]

I like the new mill. I was torn between Woodmizer and Woodland Mills. I did go with the woodland mills tooth setter and like it. I watched hours of your videos when trying to decide on a mill. I went with the LX25 and really enjoy it so far. I have had to make some modifications to it to make it a little better. You also inspired me to make some informative videos and share my knowledge. Good work.

[@sawingwithsandy]

Great to hear that you liked so many of the videos and also sounds like you got yourself a great sawmill setup. Thanks for the support on my channel

[@justdora440]

It's kinda like which vehicle to drive - Sports car or Cadillac !! Each have their perks. Another great tutorial Sandy. Enjoy your day. Happy May 1st !!!

[@sawingwithsandy]

Thanks Dora

[@robertsmith9547]

Just for your info,the little ball for guide lock is called a detent. I think if I get a sawmill, I would get a woodland. You have sold me. Not sure i would need a 30 though. Very informative channel.

[@markjohnson9445]

I'd like the fact that you compared the two. We just got a new one and set it up a few weeks ago.

[@petenelson8136]

Thanks for going over this and in such detail. I've never had a saw mill, but want one and now I know more about what makes one tick.

[@sawingwithsandy]

Always happy to do it and glad you’re liking the videos Pete

[@JosEPh-zy3yr]

Good comparison video of the advancements Woodland Mills have done for their biggest portable band sawmill. And now you have 2! I'm green with envy! lol ;)

[@sawingwithsandy]

Thanks Joseph. Glad you liked the video.

[@delmanicke9228]

Thanks for the tour of the new mill, with the exception of electronic start mine is the same as your new one, which actually gives me some confort in knowing that and it's about 3 years old. Happy milling. 😀

[@sawingwithsandy]

Good to hear Del. They must’ve made the changes for the most part a few years ago just after my 2017 version

[@delmanicke9228]

I really wish I had electric start, I think they offered electric start right after I bought mine. I didn't see it available and 2-3 months later there it was.

[@patriciahibbert6139]

Gordon here , Thank you for setting me straight on the difference between the 2 mills . I hope you know I was kidding you about the sale of your old mill. But being in CANADA not else where it is nice to comment on thing like you can go Princess Auto and pickup the parts to make a trailer for about $500 .00 can. You can DIY your own trailer with a little thinking out of the box. So I also have a mill but it is not made else where it also made in CANADA thank GOD .It is a Norwoods 2 k LM but it does the job I want it do also it is MINE not the finance company or bank. I own it with a little help with the other half (boss) lol but it is paid in full. So have a wonderful day and keep up the sawing here in CANADA LOL.

[@sawingwithsandy]

Sounds like a great setup you've got there with your Norwood. Nice sawmills for sure. I am also a big fan of Princess Auto. Sure keeps my shop stocked (not my wallet though haha)

[@danielreed5959]

Nice job on the Video! On the lubrication tank, the thing you called a vent is actually a level indicator for the tank. While it could act as a vent if air gets in the tube, its primary purpose is to allow you to monitor the level in the tank without taking the lid off.

[@sawingwithsandy]

Thanks Daniel. I’m learning everyday

[@kennkid9912]

I maybe wrong but what is the measurement from the bunks up? Can you do a 30inch log? Raised? The Weight of a big log is alot to handle. And your forest looks like small planted pine.I got the 126 with the 14 hp. 12 feet is as long as I want. I will make an extension to get that.

[@still_learning_stuff]

Great review and comparison of the old and new mill. Thanks for all the details. Hey, just wondering what camera and gimbal you use? Your videos are very well done.

[@sawingwithsandy]

My gimbal is so worn out that I can't even read the name on it anymore but it was a relatively inexpensive one I found online. I also use GoPros for my filming. Seems to do a pretty good job.

[@still_learning_stuff]

@@sawingwithsandy Does a great job. Your videos are really clear, especially when showing us things like the details of the differences between your two sawmills. Thanks again.

[@jeffhuffman5433]

They sure did make a few changes but they are both very good mills that will stand the test of time but I'm not sure if I would be up to the task of sawing a 30" log and turning it by hand. Have to eat a Lotta Cheerios to do that haha Great video Sandy see you on the next one

[@sawingwithsandy]

You’re right about that one Jeff. Put a big can’t hook on it and go to town I’m guessing

[@morganwells567]

Not sure if I missed it but was there a change (and if so how much) of the height between the housing and blade?

[@helpinghand6037]

Great Video the only thing you left out was the difference between the tracks ? It was what i was looking for so i can get the frame built while i waiting for my Delivery

[@sawingwithsandy]

Also the tracks are different widths

[@sawingwithsandy]

On the Woodland Mills website there are detail spec drawings showing the dimensions of the tracks as well if that’s helpful

[@bryansaunter4124]

As always good job doing the comparison.. small hint you may want to keep a few of the spring loaded balls, I have used 3 in very little time. The one on adjustable blade guard wears from vibration, height adjust plunger,keep it a little loose.

[@sawingwithsandy]

Thanks Bryan I appreciate that

[@earlholmes9740]

I find the vent tube also is a good visual for your depth of lubricant. I still want to see how you adjust the auto lube as I find mine finicky.

[@sawingwithsandy]

Good point there Earl. I’m interested to get the auto lube going as that will be a first for me as well

[@CedarTrailsLiving]

Wanted to give a nod to Woodland Mills. I believe the tube is specifically for sighting. The cap on mine doesn't fit so tight that it wouldn't let air in so that would have been fine for venting. I haven't needed to adjust the auto lube at least not the valve for the handle. I make the adjustment at the tank valve but I will say I don't care for the petcock style. Using certain soaps in the water can wreak havoc on the brass and mine always seem to get stuck. I have to keep a pair of pliers handy. I think I would prefer a regular stainless ball valve.

[@bryansaunter4124]

I have 130max 2021. The auto lube when it works is great. I found mine plugs, soap bubbles seem to plug. I have taken it off clean empty tank an rinse, the problem keeps returning. I use 1 tsp of dawn dish soap.

[@earlholmes9740]

I usually have make sure no air bubbles are in the line by manually holding open auto lube valve. But the throttle play has to be exact or no flow. I have tinkered a little bit with throttle and the adjustable spring on the auto lube but not perfected yet.

[@LloydMorgan-l8w]

I just about finished putting my hm130max together just a couple more things to get her done 👍

[@sawingwithsandy]

Great to hear that Lloyd

[@davidmartin5179]

Great detailed video Sandy.

[@sawingwithsandy]

Thanks David

[@jeremythornberry5626]

How tight do I get my cable's on the 130max and thanks for all the videos you really help alot.

[@sawingwithsandy]

Hi Jeremy, The cables will end up being held tight by the weight of the sawhead pulling down on them.

[@mountainmanprojects]

The vent for the lubrication tank also tells you how full / empty your water tank is... Also, I finally got my 130Max set up and man the screws just like to rattle out, the blade guard set bolt worked itself lose and destroyed a blade, and the bottom clast for the right side door just fell off. All that being said, it is a powerful machine very capable of powering through very large logs no problem.

[@sawingwithsandy]

Good to know . I’ll be sure to keep an eye on those

[@stevenjohn21]

Thank you for another great video. You have persuaded me to go the woodland mill route. Do you know the height of the 130max when it’s on the trailer and the head is raised all the way up ? I presume the measuring stick is the highest point? I’m wanting to build storage for this mill and need to make sure the roof is high enough to accommodate.

[@sawingwithsandy]

Glad to have ya on the channel. I don’t remember the exact numbers off the top of my head but I believe the height to the top of the scale is just over 8’

[@EA-lr7vs]

Hello Sandy, we have a 2021 130 max on a trailer. It also has an engine hour meter. However I want to warn you that if you take it for a drive, the hours will go up on it as it works on vibration. (so not good if you do plan on moving it). So to fix that we installed a different engine hour meter that actually reads engine compression. I also find the new adjustable blade guide kind of sticks and doesn't move easily after a bit. I think I prefer the old method. Your new log stops don't have any cut marks in them yet. lol. Need more time. I found the stop to protect your blade from the log stop kept on falling with the vibration and didn't work. (now we have cut log stops). Perhaps you have advice on that? The only thing I see different from our 2021 and your 2022 right now is the new sticker on back that says 20-25 lbs. The tensioning in the book we received said to tension it until the bearing was flush, but that wore out a set of belts after two hours of use. So now they have added the torque recommendation. (and sticker - which I might ask them for one). No other issues with ours. Thanks for the comparison video, I really enjoyed it!

[@sawingwithsandy]

Hi EA! Glad you liked the video and thanks for the idea about the hour meter. I’m fortunate in that no marks yet on the saw stop (hopefully I didn’t just jinx myself). I’ve heard others have put loctite on the small threaded bolt which Honda the angled log stop piece to keep it from vibrating out. Good to hear you’ve had such good luck with your mill and how similar it is to mine. Im hoping for the same . Thanks again for watching

[@MannistoCay]

Excellent review Sandy, I didn't realize the size difference. Looking like it's ready to make lumber. Any plans to put the new mill in the Hillbilly hideout ? Take care, keep making man glitter! 👍🏝🌴🚜🪵🍻🍁

[@sawingwithsandy]

Think I may make an new shelter for the new one

[@wallaceviviansadventures2095]

Awesome video I got the New 126 14 hp and loving her. i like your bunk caps i need to get a few i am sawing lot of fur logs and the murr is building up. have a great evening

[@sawingwithsandy]

Yeah those caps are a nice addition. That 126 sure is a nice machine though

[@TheMonkdad]

Nice video. Can you do a video as you break it in and do adjustments and maintenance?

[@sawingwithsandy]

For sure. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for watching

[@jdc5941]

Nice sawmill comparison, well done. I sure do enjoy your content, your property looks well taken care of. Never miss a video, maybe take a property tour sometime?

[@sawingwithsandy]

That's great to hear! I'm happy to have ya and appreciate the support

[@JB-to8vy]

Thank you for all the content man really appreciate it! Do you feel the trailer is a worthy upgrade? Looking at a HM130Max for my place outside Tbay just contemplating between trailer or no trailer

[@sawingwithsandy]

I do like the trailer in some aspects as the debris falls down and out of the way then I can move the sawmill to clean up under it. The height is also a nice addition with the new one

[@JB-to8vy]

@@sawingwithsandy Thank you for your reply!

[@genetime7790]

Very nice Sandy. Good Job

[@sawingwithsandy]

Thanks Gene

[@mark_Hershey]

About to buy a hm130max, just have reservations about not spending a lot more for the wood Mizer lt15. Any experience with that one?

[@sawingwithsandy]

Hi Mark. I don't have any experience with the Woodmizer LT15 unfortunately

[@Timr45_70]

Great video Sandy !

[@sawingwithsandy]

Thanks for that!

[@cancelchannel3394]

Planning on ordering a new woodland mills HM130MAX, on Monday 02/13/2023, adding 2-track extensions, and a lap siding attachment, will possibly be setting it up on a 108inch wide X 30ft. long gooseneck trailer, that way I'll have a portable mill that can cut up to 22ft. lumber, it's still in the planning stages right now, stationary vs. portability, not sure if I want to tie up my gooseneck, in case I need to haul my tractor, vehicle, or something else 🤔

[@sawingwithsandy]

Yeah lots of decisions there. I don't have a big trailer but I could see lots of uses from the gooseneck

[@lakeam57]

Thank you for your comparison...it was very informative. So, my question, is this...I see that your first unit did not have the trailer, but your new unit does have a trailer. Why? Is there a benefit that you see, in general, to having the trailer or is it just a personal preference deal? Trying to see if the additional $1600+ is justified. Thanks again!

[@sawingwithsandy]

Big thing I found with the trailer is the ability to move it around my property and to other locations to cut wood

[@markfilenko7415]

With the new saw/blade wider is the blade still supposed to ride flush with the back of the wheel? After watching one of your videos I assembled my 130max and realized blade is sitting 1/8 past the wheels in the back so I adjusted it flush and it threw the blade of within an hour of use. Is the new not supposed to be flush? Thanks

[@sawingwithsandy]

Think it's suppose to overhang the back just a little bit.

[@markfilenko7415]

Thanks for the reply, I better set it back to how it was then, Just that the few older tracking videos I saw all said flush with the back of wheel, thats why I was quick to adjust, oops. and the blade did jump off to the front.

[@jritcey108]

Iwould you purchase the lap siding attachment again or use something different like a shim ?

[@sawingwithsandy]

I find the simplicity of the Lap siding attachment is nice and the consistency

[@jritcey108]

@@sawingwithsandy thanks for the reply

[@frankmarin5421]

Sandy i have a 122 really like it but I have an issue with it rocking any ideas. Thanks

[@sawingwithsandy]

I find that after it's sitting on the track that's level and flat you can loosen off the lower leg bolts and then retighten them and it may not rock anymore.

[@morgansword]

I like both mills equally and other than bigger logs for the new one... its just how it feels to you at the end of day. Your timber sure would be sweet if it were just a tad larger on the overall. I know that you make it work but maybe someday you will be offered timber that has blown down on the highway or a neighbor clears his land of trees to have a field... nice work Sandy setting it right

[@sawingwithsandy]

You're right about that Morgan about what feels best. The feel likely leads to better lumber in the long run for sure

[@vinc3room341]

Hi Sir, I bought a new sawmill MH130 could you please help me out, I don't know how to connect it. Do you have any of the videos where you connect your machine from scratch

[@sawingwithsandy]

Thanks for checking out this video and good to hear about your new sawmill. there's a few videos showing the complete setup of this hm130max from unboxing to finish. Here's the link to it kzbin.info/aero/PLlIqRYdFUXsWuwZowI_aI-XE5C_hLsqYy

[@burndog9850]

Do you feel the motor size is enough for that mill? Thanx for the video!

[@sawingwithsandy]

Great question. I haven’t felt like I wanted any more at any point. I’m thinking as long as the blade is sharp it cuts at a good pace for my needs

[@scotttalkowski691]

Looks good Sandy, just curious, what was your lead time between ordering and receiving the new sawmill?

[@sawingwithsandy]

Hey Scott! I think it was probably a month or a bit longer If my memory serves me right

[@johnwoody4905]

nice video i didn't know the 130 max was wider than the 130. the electric start is really nice mine start as soon as you turn key. i am to old to be climbing around on a trailer. i mount mine on cement and pouring gas in and lube is easy. take care, be safe and well.

[@Cacheola]

I also love the height of mine on a slab

[@sawingwithsandy]

Yeah that concrete pad sure would be handy to keep things all level and flat.

[@sawingwithsandy]

I do like lower at times as well.

[@Cacheola]

and straddling the track over the concrete seam is handy as heck for a cant hook anchor

[@johnwoody4905]

@@Cacheola yes it is much easier . i set the big logs on with tractor and turn them too. the small one i use a cant hook too. take care, be safe and well.

[@derekbueckert7428]

such a good comparison thanks for the info

[@sawingwithsandy]

Always welcome Derek!

[@toadstead1]

(Applause) nailed it bro. Well done!

[@sawingwithsandy]

Great to hear you liked the video.

[@bruce5285]

So essentially, your old HM130 (if no extension) compares in size to a new HM126, which costs $3,699.00. Wonder what your old unit cost new? Your new HM130MAX ( if w/o trailer) as compared to your old mill costs $4,999.00, considerably more but has a 7" greater cut, which is huge as you stated. When did Woodland Mills make a 30" mill?. As I'm putting my new HM130MAX w/ trailer together, it sure is nice seeing these differences just to know where the improvements are. Thanks for sharing, Sandy.

[@sawingwithsandy]

Glad you liked the video Bruce

[@allenandmain]

Always good show thanks sandy

[@sawingwithsandy]

Thanks Allen. Good to have ya here

[@MrTgrasshopper]

Why did you upgrade to the HM130max? Do you prefer working with the trailer? Witch one is easier to work with trailer or no trailer?

[@sawingwithsandy]

The HM130max has a wider cut and some added features like auto lube, electric start. I do enjoy the trailer height now that I'm getting used to it. I think I'd always go for the trailer now after having this height option

[@kevinrecoskie519]

Good improvements for sure.

[@sawingwithsandy]

For sure Kevin

[@williamblake205]

hi Sandy - I would switch out your two units and put the 130max in the hideout and the older one on the trailer - my two coppers which arnt worth a red cent..... ps, unless the rails arnt the same width

[@sawingwithsandy]

That would be handy if they were the same width doing that but the hm130 max is a good bit wider

[@timmyfields6159]

How much width difference is in the rails that the saw head rides on

[@sawingwithsandy]

Hey Timmy, I can’t remember off hand but I think it was about 7”

[@timmyfields6159]

@@sawingwithsandy I think that’s what makes the difference in log diameter that the mill can do, but you have to whitle it down to get to full throat size for the mill. Really enjoying your post and still waiting on my woodmizer mill. May 6 will be one year since I ordered it 😡🤣😡

[@sawingwithsandy]

Yeah I can see the wait is probably getting old about now but on the brightside, you’ll be make some real nice lumber before long

[@terrymacleod6882]

does that extra 6" width effect the cut as far sag or anything or does the tension overide that? oh, you actually explain that.

[@sawingwithsandy]

Good question Terry. I haven't noticed anything in the way of cut differences. All seems good at this point

[@Cacheola]

If I had a woodlot with a million toothpicks, I'd own a quality north american made, honda powered narrow mill as my main. I also have the 130 max and when cutting smaller widths you can often see a slight deflection when it cuts around big knots

[@heather8607]

Hey Sandy ,Great comparison !! are you planning on selling your 2017 saw?let me know.

[@sawingwithsandy]

Not planning on selling it at this point as I’m able to cut longer logs on the 2017 model

[@gregwitkamp5583]

What’s the cutting length of the beds

[@sawingwithsandy]

16'11" on the old one and 10'5" on the new one

[@cancelchannel3394]

That lube vent will collect sawdust andget clogged, recommend adding an aquarium air bubble stone, as a lube tank aìr vent filter 😀 👌

[@sawingwithsandy]

Good idea!

[@wallacefrey6247]

You may want to consider putting a U-shaped piece of tubing in the top of the vent tube so it faces down to prevent sawdust from getting down into the tube. I have seen this brought up in a few other videos. (edit.... maybe even a cheap little plastic in-line fuel filter, or an airstone for a fish tank would work as well.)

[@Cacheola]

or just plug it... if and when your flow stops, burp the filler cap

[@wallacefrey6247]

@@Cacheola Or buy a vented cap.

[@sawingwithsandy]

Thanks for sharing that Wallace

[@sawingwithsandy]

not a bad idea either

[@Cacheola]

@@wallacefrey6247 not necessary. That medium hard plastic bung doesn't seal. Even if it did, you could cut for a 100hrs and not have to burp it. You don't want it streaming out like a faucet, drip drip drip...

[@brianwestveer9532]

Are the blades the same width

[@sawingwithsandy]

Hi Brian, my old HM130 uses 144″ x 1.25″ x 0.042″ x 7/8 and the new hm130max uses 157.5″ x 1.25″ x 0.042″ x 7/8″

[@pauljelen2330]

Those are some nice upgrades on the newer model.

[@sawingwithsandy]

I’m with ya there Paul

[@checknwilly6]

How many BF hour does it range

[@sawingwithsandy]

Think it can do around 400 bf/hour but for me that would be a bit high with my setup

[@user-fx9yk2qc2j]

is the depth of cut the same

[@sawingwithsandy]

As far as I know they are

[@09FLTRMM77]

MM77 Approved 👍🏼👍🏼

[@sawingwithsandy]

Always happy to see theese each video. Thanks for the ongoing support

[@contrafax]

I am looking forward to watching you use the new one.

[@sawingwithsandy]

Thanks! I just loaded up a good hefty log onto just a moment ago and will have a video out real soon.

[@cancelchannel3394]

On the 2022 and newer models, using a torque wrench is not recommended for proper blade tensioning, the company actually recommends not using a torque wrench for blade tensioning, what are your thoughts on this subject ? 🤔

[@sawingwithsandy]

I'd agree that whatever method they suggest would be a good method to use. I"m used to the torque wrench from my 2017 HM130 and since it seems to work well on my sawmill that's what I use

[@m9ovich785]

Thanks Sandy.. Mike M.

[@sawingwithsandy]

Hope all is well Mike

[@m9ovich785]

@@sawingwithsandy Just getting depressed about this cold wet spring We are having. Dealing with lots of Mud at My New place, having difficulty getting anything done. UGG...

[@morjesusgan3]

Seems like they really focused on making it easy to perform a lot of the functions on the Max with one had which I’m sure is pretty handy for a KZbinr.

[@sawingwithsandy]

Actually it does become easier especially when holding a camera

[@morjesusgan3]

@@sawingwithsandy yeah that’s what I was thinking. Can’t wait to get one and start milling on my property. Hopefully next month! 🎉

[@stevencarlson5029]

Ok, so you had sawdust on your band wheel... I want my band wheels clean at ALL times. It is critical so as to keep the front of the blade ALWAYS the tightest. I hope Woodland will pick up on this comment.

[@rickutley931]

With what you have for logs , why the new mill ?

[@sawingwithsandy]

Wanted to try out the new features

[@michiganranch1757]

Just got the 136 max

[@sawingwithsandy]

Right on! It sure looks pretty slick. I've never seen one in person so you'll have to keep me posted how it goes

[@bentwedgestanleybrand5818]

Good morning from Piqua Ohio.

[@sawingwithsandy]

Good Morning!

[@hayneshuntingcom]

I thought the 130 mx is 36 inches wide

[@christopherguy1217]

Could you swap the heads, put the new one on the old rails and the old one on the new trailer? I guess it depends on which you'll use more and if it is physically possible.

[@sawingwithsandy]

The new saw is actually a good amount wider than the old one

[@hayneshuntingcom]

I thought the 130 max has a 21 hp engine?

[@russellclement2058]

I have watched hundreds of vids with many blokes sawing timber / lumber Sandy is the only one that sets his blade to get equal cuts from the top of the log to the bottom ..

[@sawingwithsandy]

Thanks for watching Russell. I haven't seen too many other people cutting wood before but what do others tend to do differently?

[@russellclement2058]

@@sawingwithsandy They cut the round bits off ,, in Aussie we call them flitches ,,, then start cutting their boards ,,they dont even cut their cants to width , eg, 10, 8, 6, inch ,,, just start chopping off the top and nearly always finish up with a thin board as off-cut ,,, just a waste of a cut

[@sawingwithsandy]

Oh ok. I can see how that would work well. Thanks for sharing that

[@douglasnichols6116]

I may not be the only one to say..... you do not have the safety angle metal that keeps you from hitting your log stop in your older model. At the same time I understand that it can also be a pain in the behind with certain logs and mine vibrates loose.

[@sawingwithsandy]

You’re right about that. It rattled out at some point and I haven’t got it back in yet

[@Cacheola]

I'm not a fan of the log clamps, they suck!!! I've got my mill sitting on a concrete slab because it's easier to roll BIG logs onto. This makes the clamps fiddly b/c they're constantly bottoming out on the concrete and you're forever trying to find the sweet spot. Regardless, when you've got a log with some weight, they DO NOT easily release from locking on the slide and you need to hit them with something or pry your log or both... only to have it release and get stopped up on one of the two spring pins holding the contraption together - grind these flush. Add to this, the fact the clamps are not symmetrical... you may need it swinging to the left OR to the right... to the left, you risk clipping the offset handle :-|. That said, it's really my only beef

[@sawingwithsandy]

Yeah can imagine over the years some small things you mentioned can be a bit of a pain

[@Cacheola]

@@sawingwithsandy I'm hoping you sell your old mill and drop a honda powered LM30, woodmizer, or perhaps vallee in for comparison. You've done so well with your channel, any one of these suppliers would be fools not to cut you a deal. This WM was a great price and hard to beat cut width. It does "twist/shake/wobble??" more than I'd like and would be interested to know if the other brands control this better - yes I have all the guides, bushings, bolts all snug. One of the things that attracted me to WM was the skookum looking frame design over the anemic looking woodmizer's. but... is this something inherent with these smaller mills???

[@sawingwithsandy]

Since I haven’t run any other brand of sawmill I don’t really have anything to compare them to but I am getting real nice lumber consistently I’m finding

[@bradh74]

Your old mill is in good shape yet. I'll bet there's thousands of feet of lumber left to go in that one! The only problem is that you'll need a new equipment shed to fit the new one in so it'll stand the test of time too!

[@sawingwithsandy]

You’re right there Brad. Just working out a plan for just that

[@TheJoewag]

my hm130max uses 158' blades

[@sawingwithsandy]

Yeah I think I misspoke as I use 157.5″ x 1.25″ x 0.042″ x 7/8″

[@TheJoewag]

@@sawingwithsandy only a true hm130max handler would of picked up on that ...lol....I figured you knew

[@TheJoewag]

And if you get a chance...try the 1.50 wide...you won't regret it

[@Cacheola]

@@TheJoewag better for 30" diameter live edge doug fir slabs?? Maybe I'll buy one from a local manufacturer to test out

[@sawingwithsandy]

Thanks Joe. I’ll be sure to try out the wider blades in the future for sure

[@pearsc5d]

Hey ,here's a plan . Just buy ANOTHER mill with hydrolics , why have two when you can own 3

[@sawingwithsandy]

I like your thinking!

[@pearsc5d]

Still don't see hydrolics. Better really get in the game sawmill bro . Then we can talk .

[@LarryLeesBees]

Hahahaha!!! What’s he need hydraulics for? He’s got an awesome tractor. 🤣

[@sawingwithsandy]

I feel like I'm fortunate to have what I have. Thanks for watching

[@Cacheola]

lol... have you seen the trees in his woodlot? He's got it dialled... faster to spin by hand and tractor to load his dispenser

[@sawingwithsandy]

I’ve got white pine trees 2.5’ in diameter but I don’t cut them down with all the red pine I’m working on thinning

[@richardschipper5989]

school would teach you to spell...hydraulics