Saxophone Mouthpiece Patches - How to fit and Why!

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@Onei1y
@Onei1y 5 жыл бұрын
Ive been playing for less than 1 month Yamaha YAS-280. Supplied with Yamaha 4c. I was advised this would be a good place to start. I'm enjoying it thoroughly. Embouchure comes and goes but is slowly becoming more consistent. I just placed a mouthpiece patch on board and felt instantly more comfortable and subsequently more confident. Embouchure one step further in the right direction. Whoo Hoo...! Many thanks.
@dylansanchez3040
@dylansanchez3040 6 ай бұрын
Thank you Nigel. Was noticing the tiniest indentations on my mouthpiece i just purchased a couple months ago and knew I had to apply some pads but had zero direction on how to do so. This helped a ton.
@simulizizadudumizi8417
@simulizizadudumizi8417 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, Mc. Always my great teacher at Sax School. I actually didn't know what these patches were meant for. I bought wiping clothes, and they came with these little patches that I didn't know what they are for. Of course, I had been agonizing over the realization that my teeth are digging into my mouthpiece. I'm going to paste a patch on it. Asante sana.
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! Glad it was helpful.
@plumserve
@plumserve Жыл бұрын
Ive had my sax for 6 months and recently the patch started to fall apart. It had been deteriorating for a couple of months with a couple of ridges but one of them started to peel so I eventually removed the whole thing. As a learner it is great to have these videos to learn how to do these things and to appreciate why they are needed.
@extremerobo3311
@extremerobo3311 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. I received a alto saxophone care kit and this came with it except mine is clear, and I never knew what it was. Now I stumbled upon your video and it helped me greatly. Thank you.
@clay3006
@clay3006 4 жыл бұрын
The eBay seller who sold me my Alto included some of these in the package. I had no idea what they were for but I'm glad he included them, because as a beginner they make a ton of difference in playing comfort.
@adiesalter4098
@adiesalter4098 4 жыл бұрын
Just starting playing sax, used to play recorders when I was a kid, cheers for video dead easy to follow 😁
@anneowen3365
@anneowen3365 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nigel - very helpful. As a complete beginner of the sax, I've found the teeth marks on my mouth piece to be helpful to help me understand the (squeaky!) sound that I've been making. You did a great Sax School video on the position of your mouth on the mouth piece in relation to the reed, and since seeing that (and where my teeth marks in the mouth piece are) I've been able to adjust the position and it has really improved the sound I make - plus my ability to achieve the higher notes. Now I have that under my belt, I feel I'm able to try the patches.
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 7 жыл бұрын
+Anne Owen Good stuff Anne. Great to hear these videos have been helpful!
@Rosey7723
@Rosey7723 2 жыл бұрын
This is very helpful, I did not know that could happen without a mouthpiece patch, as a beginner this really helped me, I am usually in discomfort because when I play u can feel the vibration on your teeth, thank you so much:)
@gangofgreenhorns2672
@gangofgreenhorns2672 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly couldn't play without one of these.
@georgemonroe9683
@georgemonroe9683 7 жыл бұрын
I use a mouthpiece patch. I have not changed it yet. It's been on for several months. After watching this video I will check my wear and probably replace the patch with a new one. Thanks.
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 7 жыл бұрын
+George Monroe Good stuff George. Glad the video was helpful.
@martinheinsdorf
@martinheinsdorf 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Nigel. I inherited a mouthpiece that had a patch with a bothersome deep ridge. I never used patches before, and I didn't know they could be easily removed. Now that I've seen your video I'll go and buy a new one and replace that bad boy.
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 7 жыл бұрын
+Martin Heinsdorf Go for it Martin!
@jasonandrews9058
@jasonandrews9058 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nigel I have applied one to my mouthpiece also :)
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 7 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn
@Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn 3 жыл бұрын
I've been holding off putting one on because I thought placement would depend on how much mouthpiece you're taking in, it seems that's not the case. Unfortunately I was punched in the mouth and lost teeth top and bottom, but only on one side, so I can't really hold the mouthpiece with my teeth anyway. I'm currently playing a "pocket sax", with an alto mouthpiece, so it's a problem when I need to uncover all of the holes, if I bite hard it turns sideways! I've been thinking of a mouthguard to bridge the gap, but not sure if that would work. I'm still getting lots out of your videos, even though a "real saxophone" might still be out of reach for a while yet, even the cheapest is too expensive on disability pension. Keep up the good work! :)
@grahambambrook313
@grahambambrook313 6 ай бұрын
Never played a Sax in my life but just bought 'el-cheapo' one from Amazon, so starting off with a patch seems like a good habbit. 😄
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 6 ай бұрын
Go for it!
@margec286
@margec286 7 жыл бұрын
I do use mouthpiece patches on both the soprano and alto but only change them every year or so. My original teacher taught me to have quite a bit of muscle power in the embouchure, so that's probably why. I remember the days, long ago, that we used tire patches and made our own. That was prior to manufactured mouthpiece patches. Thank goodness the manufactured ones don't have that tire taste!
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 7 жыл бұрын
+Marge C Yeah funny. I’ve never tried to make my own patches. What do you use? Bicycle tyre? Tasty!
@margec286
@margec286 7 жыл бұрын
Yuck. Not tasty at all. Yes, bicycle tire patch kits. Let me save you the nastiness and money, the real mouthpiece patches from the local music store are MUCH better! Thanks for your videos! I've tried my firs Legere Signature reed lately and love it!!
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 7 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@youhumit9169
@youhumit9169 7 жыл бұрын
Nigel, I have been using the clear, thin, plastic patches on my metal MP for years. I found that the black rubber ones were much thicker and tended to disintegrate in a very short time. Maybe you should check with Reeds Direct the varying thicknesses of pads, for all of our information?
@wuergha
@wuergha Жыл бұрын
In my experience some newer patches do not stick well and move over time leaving residue that sticks to my lips. The old patches are still holding. Not sure it's a new glue compound or what. In any case I threw out all my new patches of that particular brand.
@bjorn1000
@bjorn1000 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vid. When replaceing the pad, you said to just do it. But I am wondering what would be good to give a careful rinse to get rid of leftover glue from the old one, and also other «things» that simultanious could be removed from the edges of where the old pad was sitting, before putting on the new one? Regards from Norway 🇳🇴
@gens_studio
@gens_studio 4 жыл бұрын
WoW thx I just discover the comfort of a mouth piece I was skeptical 🤨 but I love it
@anon4518
@anon4518 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, just started playing and bought one
@xxczerxx
@xxczerxx 4 жыл бұрын
For someone with sensitive teeth this is a godsend for that reason also!
@beethovenloco2692
@beethovenloco2692 4 жыл бұрын
Try a dental mouth guard... bleaching tray. I bought some mold it yourself guards on ebay and no longer need to spend on patches that don’t last. I’ve saved so many hard rubber mouthpieces with this method.
@markgoodman9317
@markgoodman9317 3 жыл бұрын
I have had a root canal on my right front tooth and my left tooth is literally a double root , that’s what it feels like, so it was a godsend
@MauriatOttolink
@MauriatOttolink 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the principle and after 50 years playing I've arrived at patches. However I find that they don't survive more than 3 or 4 numbers before they peel and lift off at some point. Very disconcerting in the middle of Ornithology to have a rubber flap "flapping" about on the mouthpiece or even detaching and sliding to a different place! I have tried impact adhesive which is better but that leads to spitting out black crumbs all over the stand or the drummer when he's speeding up! In view of your success, I reckon that you know something that I should! I'm just this very minute about to fill the tooth groove with acrylic powder and activator, ready for reshaping after it hardens. Thanks for you videos.... TTFN
@beethovenloco2692
@beethovenloco2692 4 жыл бұрын
Try a dental mouth guard... bleaching tray. I bought some mold it yourself guards on ebay and no longer need to spend on patches that don’t last. I’ve saved so many hard rubber mouthpieces with this method.
@markgoodman9317
@markgoodman9317 3 жыл бұрын
My teacher recommended these! And I’m like where do I put them on the mouthpiece? I was just too worried about it going too far up and too far down
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 3 жыл бұрын
Good point mark - I find they just need to be slightly down from the tip of the mouthpiece to be most comfortable with your top teeth.
@fednerfaustin9209
@fednerfaustin9209 7 жыл бұрын
I use them, and there are very helpful. I’d rather change the patches than the mouthpiece itself.
@beethovenloco2692
@beethovenloco2692 4 жыл бұрын
Try a dental mouth guard... bleaching tray. I bought some mold it yourself guards on ebay and no longer need to spend on patches that don’t last. I’ve saved so many hard rubber mouthpieces with this method.
@thomaskipfer1008
@thomaskipfer1008 4 жыл бұрын
I bought patches for my horns, but am afraid to mess with my tone (not broken, why fix). I guess I’m just too set in my ways... I’m going to try it at your word; thanks, I think I need that!
@schoeppa92
@schoeppa92 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thanks. Changed the patch for the first time, passivley chewed a hole in the previous one (not so nice teeth). I does not play very nice with a hole in the patch because it kinda fixes you position in a wrong way. My mouthpiece came with a new patch, can't imagine playing without one, would probably hurt my teeth like hell.
@Iamthatmelody
@Iamthatmelody 3 жыл бұрын
This is very helpful. Thanks man
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 3 жыл бұрын
No worries!
@michellebliman
@michellebliman 2 жыл бұрын
Hello!! Thank you so much for your videos. I got one of my front teeth fixed after a little accident, and I really need to reduce the vibration to avoid the risk of breaking the arrangement... Would you recommend me any other thing (besides the patch)? thank you once again!
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Michelle. A mouthpiece patch is your best bet. If you find it’s not enough cushioning for your teeth you could just try doubling them up one on top of the other. Hope that helps.
@michellebliman
@michellebliman 2 жыл бұрын
@@McGillMusicSaxSchool thank you so much for answering this fast!! Yes, I thought about that but didn't know if would be too high cause I bought the most robust patch. I'll try with two, so! thank you again for your content :)
@laston85
@laston85 Жыл бұрын
Does the patch also help with maintaining correct embouchure?
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool Жыл бұрын
It does make it more comfortable to play.
@lawofuekiaddict
@lawofuekiaddict 7 жыл бұрын
Hi nigel. My niece "cracked" (no chips, just cracked) one of my synthetic reeds but it still kinda works (?) im a new sax player, should i still use it in performing or just as a practice reed? Thanks
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 7 жыл бұрын
+FriskyLemonade Good question. I guess I was only suggest using it if it still feels and sounds ok. Otherwise, treat yourself to a new one!
@granvillemoore1218
@granvillemoore1218 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info very good
@ethanvandagriffmusic
@ethanvandagriffmusic 16 күн бұрын
But what about when you need to clean the adhesive off from the previous patch?
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 16 күн бұрын
That normally just rubs off pretty easily. I’d avoid using any cleaning products though.
@beethovenloco2692
@beethovenloco2692 4 жыл бұрын
Try a dental mouth guard... bleaching tray. I bought some mold it yourself guards on ebay and no longer need to spend on patches that don’t last. I’ve saved so many hard rubber mouthpieces with this method.
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 4 жыл бұрын
That’s interesting, thanks for sharing.
@beethovenloco2692
@beethovenloco2692 4 жыл бұрын
McGill Music Sax School Yes they work well thanks for your tips as well!! Personally my teeth are too sharp and chipped so I bite through patches and mouthpieces a lot.
@raseshgandhi6702
@raseshgandhi6702 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much it's easy to blow ❤
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 2 ай бұрын
You're welcome 😊
@wd-4024
@wd-4024 5 жыл бұрын
Why is this the most exciting video??
@davidnguyen3943
@davidnguyen3943 5 жыл бұрын
Why not?
@wd-4024
@wd-4024 5 жыл бұрын
Its a good advice... but nothing more. Not worth it to do a video for this, in my opinion.
@Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn
@Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn 3 жыл бұрын
Sarcasm.
@naitkaet
@naitkaet 7 ай бұрын
hey! i've bought some from thomann, but ince i pull of the adhesive paper they dont stick anymore? but i somehow cant play any notes without the patch (always played WITH them) but now that its not sticking unless i stick in on with the adhesive paper, its not playing some notes? should i GLUE them on? doesnt seem right
@nr3rful
@nr3rful 7 жыл бұрын
Yes I use patches. Change them about every 3 months.
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 7 жыл бұрын
+nr3rful Cool.
@katieanimates2883
@katieanimates2883 4 жыл бұрын
Thank u soooo much this was really helpful :) my mouthpiece was super scratched
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@shakerly55
@shakerly55 Жыл бұрын
My problem is that the patch slides off after about 20 minutes of playing. During one bandstand gig this weekend I ended up having to fit 2 new patches as they wouldn’t stick. Would that be a brand problem or something else.
@user-ig5eb5li3t
@user-ig5eb5li3t 4 жыл бұрын
I find my thumb keeps slipping off the octave key, especially when I am playing fast passages. Do you think a patch there would help, or do you have another suggestion? Thank you. I like your videos!
@KuwaywayLogic
@KuwaywayLogic 6 жыл бұрын
oh yeah you talk about the mouthpiece patches
@brassrevivalofficial3400
@brassrevivalofficial3400 4 жыл бұрын
Should you use alto/tenor patches on bari? I can't find any patches specifically for bari.
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 4 жыл бұрын
Good question. I would suggest using tenor patches.
@brassrevivalofficial3400
@brassrevivalofficial3400 4 жыл бұрын
@@McGillMusicSaxSchool Ok thank you so much!
@DanielR1-MIDI
@DanielR1-MIDI 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Nigel. If you take off a mouthpiece patch from one mouthpiece, could you put it on another mouthpiece or store it somewhere? (mouthpiece trials)
@xtian4095
@xtian4095 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, my son struggles with teeth ‘vibrations’ do these mouthpieces prevent that?
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, putting a mouthpiece patch on should really help with that.
@colinsmith2165
@colinsmith2165 Жыл бұрын
Not as simple as that I n afraid I ( and bc a good few people I know) find that the patch after a few days starts to rotate and shortly part of the patch is hanging over the side of the mouthpiece which is an irritant and it has to be replaced usually every few days ir maybe a bc week or two max. Any advice please how this can be avoided
@ROY-COLLEY
@ROY-COLLEY 4 жыл бұрын
Hi I'm about to but some of them patches. Can I ask what is the best way to sterilising a second hand MP please ?
@keithonhoopmusic
@keithonhoopmusic 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Nigel my teeth is very sensitive for vibration. What can i do to relieve it plz help
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 4 жыл бұрын
I’d definitely get a mouthpiece patch Keithon.
@hamster-j9d
@hamster-j9d 7 жыл бұрын
What r ur thoughts on sax players focusing on classical pieces n relying on music sheets only? Is improvising a must on saxophone?
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 7 жыл бұрын
+matt Nothing wrong with that Matt, it just depends what style of playing you are interested in. I’ve always played jazz, but actually did a classical saxophone degree and have worked with symphony orchestras. I often practice classical etudes, as well jazz standards.
@vincentgaglio5106
@vincentgaglio5106 7 жыл бұрын
I will, I will look up the site you sent us
@micahsadosky1549
@micahsadosky1549 5 жыл бұрын
Hey I just came across you I'm beginning saxophone any tips?
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Micah. Lots of resources on my channel here but a great place to start is my free lesson bundle which has a ‘getting started’ course. You can get it here: www.mcgillmusic.com/saxophone-tool-kit
@octubnowuke901
@octubnowuke901 6 жыл бұрын
Yes. I came here to say, that last week, i accidentally damaged my mouhtpiece by making a slit like hole in it, making a piece come off, and my left tooth is sinking right into it! What do I do? Is thst normal? Its is bad? How can I avoid that? Thanks McGill (sry dont know ur first name ) for these videos. Very helpful! :')
@octubnowuke901
@octubnowuke901 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, what i meant is mothpiece pad in first sentence
@octubnowuke901
@octubnowuke901 6 жыл бұрын
My left tooth is always a tad deeper than my right tooth
@octubnowuke901
@octubnowuke901 6 жыл бұрын
(Sey for all the comments, but ) i remember about 2 weeks back, it started off only as a 'nic' on the rubber patch on mouthpiece.
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 6 жыл бұрын
Hi. It depends on what sort of patch you have on your mouthpiece. If it is just a normal rubber mouthpiece patch that sits on the top of your mouthpiece, you just need to peel it off and replace it with a new one. They are readily available at most music shops.
@jimmyb1133
@jimmyb1133 5 жыл бұрын
How do you remove the patch and remove the sticky part that remains on the mp after it's removed?
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 5 жыл бұрын
Hi. They generally just peel off and any sticky residue just comes off easily too.
@thomaskipfer1008
@thomaskipfer1008 4 жыл бұрын
Rubbing alcohol should remove adhesive left over.
@GrahameEasthope
@GrahameEasthope 7 жыл бұрын
The other benefit is that they stop your teeth skating around on the beak of the mcp. I use clear very thin ones that seem to last forever. No splits or gouges that can happen with rubber patches.
@angang3604
@angang3604 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Nigel, I use patches on both my alto and tenor. What thickness is best.....I have seen them advertised at 0.3mm and 0.8mm. Are the thicker ones better? Due to an accident one of my front teeth is a bit pointed and this tends to go through the patches quite quickly, so I prefer thicker ones.Do you favour a brand or the generic ones you can get from China via ebay???
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 6 жыл бұрын
Good question. I generally use the thicker ones - they feel more comfortable for me. Lots of different brands available but in my opinion it doesn’t matter which. I’ve used generic ones in the past and they have worked great.
@vincentgaglio5106
@vincentgaglio5106 7 жыл бұрын
Nigel most of the time my teeth don't rest on the top of the mouthpiece, I guess it should , I guess I am apprehensive that my teeth might Nic it?
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Vinny - get a patch on there. It is best to get your top teeth resting on the mouthpiece. It will give you more control over your sound.
@athebeast1769
@athebeast1769 4 жыл бұрын
What would be a good mouthpiece patch for my berg Larson alto sax metal mouthpiece? I bought some Yamaha mouthpiece patches and I’ve been cutting them down and it works for now but I’d like to get one that actually fits.
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 4 жыл бұрын
Good question. You could also try using a soprano sax patch on your Berg?
@athebeast1769
@athebeast1769 4 жыл бұрын
McGill Music Sax School I didn’t think about that, I’ll try it out.
@stagrider
@stagrider 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Nigel, I have a metal Berg Larsen tenor sax mouthpiece. These mouthpieces come with a small black hard rubber section glued into a cut-out slot in the metal of the mouthpiece. I guess the designer's idea was that this hard rubber piece is replaceable if it gets worn. I still use mouthpiece patches but the problem is they don't usually stay stuck for as long as on other mouthpieces as the ridge on the edges of the hard rubber insert allow moisture to get into the glue of the patch. Can you think of anything I can do to get the patches to stick for longer ?
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 5 жыл бұрын
Good question. I’m guessing your hard rubber insert on your Berg is worn a little. I have heard of some people replacing the actual insert to give you a smooth surface again - that way the mouthpiece patch will stay “stuck”.
@stagrider
@stagrider 5 жыл бұрын
@@McGillMusicSaxSchool Thank for the reply which does confirms I am not alone in think trying to find a solution to this. I will take my mouth piece into my tech who has all sorts of machines and see if he can take out my current insert and grind it down so its more flush with the rest of the mouthpiece so the patches should hopefully grip for longer !
@ikeeichenberg9068
@ikeeichenberg9068 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Nigel, I've been playing the tenor sax for just 4 1/2 months for my high school marching band, but I've picked it up incredibly fast; I've been told I already play better than a majority of my section that's been playing for 4-5 years, and I'm ready for some more high end equipment in the hopes of frequent practicing to get to a more professional level of playing, as well as simply for my own enjoyment. So I'm looking at getting a Sax Dakota SDT-1200 SS saxophone, a Pomarico Jazz Crystal Mouthpiece, a Rico-H Ligature, and a Legere reed. Do you know if this is a good combo? Is a good mouthpiece really worth the upgrade? And are Legere Reeds worth it?
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 7 жыл бұрын
+Champion Urbosa Great question Champion. I haven’t tried that sax or mouthpiece, but I use Legere Signature reeds on all my horns. Big fan. Great to hear you are making great progress on your sax!
@ikeeichenberg9068
@ikeeichenberg9068 7 жыл бұрын
McGill Music Sax School Thanks so much for replying! Have you ever tried a crystal mouthpiece? I've read good reviews about them
@Bryant1416
@Bryant1416 6 жыл бұрын
McGill Music Sax School drx#z
@ikeeichenberg9068
@ikeeichenberg9068 6 жыл бұрын
Kuwayway Logic Nah, 2 1/2 months later a lot has changed. I now use Legere reeds faithfully, as I find them to be far more reliable with the same great sound of a cane reed. I just ordered a Pomarico Crystal mouthpiece, albeit not the jazz edition, and it arrives wednesday. As for the ligature, I ordered a Rovner Star to go with it. And I've decided not to buy a new saxophone, I'm just sticking with my ol' reliable Yamaha
@thepuregamer6731
@thepuregamer6731 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't use a new saxophone to march with in case you collide
@taralouise2194
@taralouise2194 11 ай бұрын
Does it affect sound in any way???
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 11 ай бұрын
No not really.
@ivarwesterberg6212
@ivarwesterberg6212 7 жыл бұрын
I have teeth marks in my patch. Should probably get a new one
@ph2738
@ph2738 7 жыл бұрын
I don't chew my mouthpiece badly, unless I'm working on tricks or altissimo. And I've tried some expensive mouthpieces but keep going back to a cheap Yamaha 5c. But I have the thin clear patches on.
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 7 жыл бұрын
+Paul Huffman nothing wrong with a Yam 5c. It’s a good piece.
@Suzanne0219
@Suzanne0219 4 жыл бұрын
I just started to play saxophone and practice consistently everyday averagely 2 hours without rest break, it’s been the 5th month since I started practicing daily without failed... I do not have uneven teeth, but there is still an obvious ridge/bite mark on the top of my mouthpiece, and like you said my teeth is automatically only going back to the same place whenever I put my mouthpiece in the mouth... I believed I have already developed so many bad habits so far... and the most terrible bad habit that makes both of my upper front teeth feel pain/sore after finish practicing, sometimes during practicing as well ... I am so worried as this is not only affecting my playing and embouchure problems but also my health problems might rise in long term (for example my situation: teeth pain and headache, bottom lip biting and sore) I wish to overcome this major issue on embouchure, what should I do ? Do I need to get rid of the current mouthpiece with ridge/bite mark, and get a new mouthpiece to start all over again ? In this situation do you still suggest to put the patches ? Either on the current mouthpiece (with ridge/bite mark) or on the new mouthpiece? Your reply and suggestion is much appreciated !!! I thank you in advance !! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🤗🤗
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 4 жыл бұрын
Great question. I would just use a patch on your current mouthpiece. Since you already have a ridge on the mouthpiece you’ll probably find the patches wear through faster, but they are much cheaper than a new mouthpiece and will make playing more comfortable.
@Suzanne0219
@Suzanne0219 4 жыл бұрын
McGill Music Sax School okay.. I’ll get patches asap ... Tq so much for your reply and suggestion !! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🤗🤗
6 жыл бұрын
Hi Nigel! which size would you recommend? I see patches come in 0.3mm and 0.8mm thickness, do they affect the sound of a mouthpiece like muting vibrations?
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 6 жыл бұрын
Good question Raul, I prefer the thicker ones, they feel more comfortable to me, but it’s personal preference. I’m not sure the thickness affects the sound, but for me the thicker ones are more comfortable. Are you using a metal or hard rubber mouthpiece?
6 жыл бұрын
I have a rubber one and I just bought my first metal one, like you it's the Otto Link super tone master, I really loved the Wanne Durga but it's over twice the price of the Otto Link, so it's out of my budget, and I chose based on your suggestions from your mouthpiece video, so thanks for the valuable insight!
@galemacooltent4769
@galemacooltent4769 3 жыл бұрын
Hi this is a little late but do those patches ruffle the sound of the sax?
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. Actually they don’t affect the sound of the sax at all, they just make playing more comfortable (and protect your mouthpiece too!)
@galemacooltent4769
@galemacooltent4769 3 жыл бұрын
Oke great thanks😁
@MARKLINMAN1
@MARKLINMAN1 7 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention they come in different Thickness. The clear ones are thinner than the black ones. On alto and Tenor i play the Black ones, on my Soprano i can only play the CLEAR (THINNER).
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 7 жыл бұрын
+MARKLINMAN1 Good point.
@geminidreamer2489
@geminidreamer2489 4 жыл бұрын
I have mouthpiece patches on both my clarinet and soprano sax and I find that I always have some “leaking issues” when I play my clarinet or sax. Maybe I am still getting use to embouchure?
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Gemini Dreamer2, I’m guessing the leaking is in the corners of your mouth? If so try thinking more of having a “round” shape with your mouth, kind of like a drawstring bag. That way you are keeping your corners in and it should stop any air leaks. Hope this helps.
@geminidreamer2489
@geminidreamer2489 4 жыл бұрын
McGill Music Sax School thank you so much Nigel🙏🙏😇😇
@CoolRiverD
@CoolRiverD 6 жыл бұрын
According to my teacher (ex military bandsman), the nerves of the front top teeth are damaged by long term playing without a patch. Vibrations are transmitted when a bare mouthpiece is used, eventually (over many years), leading to loss of the teeth. BMTS - Bare Mouthpiece Vibration Syndrome. Industrial injury compensation anyone? ;)
@michaelwendell6208
@michaelwendell6208 5 жыл бұрын
Your teacher was pulling your chain.....😂
@judy1406
@judy1406 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@pamalanharper7278
@pamalanharper7278 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, yes I have used mouthpiece patches for several years now to protect my mouthpieces from teeth damage. I also find this gives the tone a more mellow sound. Alan Harper South Australia.
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 7 жыл бұрын
+pam alan harper Cool, interesting that you can hear a sound difference. That’s great!
@icangicung20
@icangicung20 6 жыл бұрын
apparently nobody sells that in my country, what do you advise for alternative?
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 6 жыл бұрын
Good question. There are lots of companies that make patches so hopefully you can find an alternative online?
@icangicung20
@icangicung20 6 жыл бұрын
i try using duct tapes but it really screws my embochure hha (edit) i just found one online but the keywords is 'mouthpiece cushion' not patches
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 6 жыл бұрын
Probably the same thing. Better than duct tape too!
@interneteditor5258
@interneteditor5258 6 жыл бұрын
Do you know of or can recommend a non-rubber patch? I'm allergic :(
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 6 жыл бұрын
That’s a great question. I’m not sure of brands, but I have seen non rubber patches for sale. I hope you find some.
@interneteditor5258
@interneteditor5258 6 жыл бұрын
McGill Music Sax School Thank you. I really enjoy your videos. I'm just getting back into playing after 20 years break.
@ender10man
@ender10man 5 жыл бұрын
Or get duct tape and layer them in top of the mouthpiece until you get a good cushion
@tacomachine2359
@tacomachine2359 5 жыл бұрын
Can I use something else like tape instead of patch, or I can’t do that?
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 5 жыл бұрын
You could use tape but it generally doesn’t last very long. A patch is the best option - they’re cheap and last a long time.
@tacomachine2359
@tacomachine2359 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks you! 😁 that what I wanted to know
@samcostanza
@samcostanza 7 жыл бұрын
I use them, but only because the vibration of the mouthpiece gives me a headache. It's a silly reason, I suppose, but after having braces as a teen, the vibration killed me.
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 7 жыл бұрын
That's a good reason Sam. Isn't it strange though if you play a mouthpiece without a patch, it feels really weird once you're used to using them.
@3rd_Son
@3rd_Son 3 жыл бұрын
I use mouthpiece patches.
@keithonhoopmusic
@keithonhoopmusic 5 жыл бұрын
Do you need a mouthpiece patch if you use dubble lip
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 5 жыл бұрын
Good question. I’ve never used the double lip embouchure.
@keithonhoopmusic
@keithonhoopmusic 5 жыл бұрын
@@McGillMusicSaxSchool I think you must make a video what the difference is between the two
@michaelkokolis6845
@michaelkokolis6845 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Nigel, I have a metal mouthpiece for my tenor sax (Silver Guardala Crescent) and I've tried multiple times to get a mouthpiece patch onto it. After 5 minutes of playing, it slips right off, and I've tried trimming the oatch as well to fit the mouthpiece completely, but it still will not work. Any suggestions?
@michaelwendell6208
@michaelwendell6208 5 жыл бұрын
1/16" Double back tape with a pill package plastic cut to size...i use a metal brillhart .
@ender10man
@ender10man 5 жыл бұрын
Nigel
@michaelwendell6208
@michaelwendell6208 5 жыл бұрын
1/16 " double back tape with a small piece of pill plastic cut to size.....no fuss no musssss!
@jimis3167
@jimis3167 4 жыл бұрын
What mouthpiece patch you stuck on?
@paulfairchild3461
@paulfairchild3461 7 жыл бұрын
Can’t play without the patches. Makes a bid difference in comfort of playing .
@jeffreypowell1656
@jeffreypowell1656 Жыл бұрын
It took three quarters of the video to get to the point, but thanks.
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@zackromero880
@zackromero880 6 жыл бұрын
I have one in my mouth piece
@KuwaywayLogic
@KuwaywayLogic 6 жыл бұрын
no buddy I think they are supposed to go on your mouth piece
@weziak
@weziak 9 ай бұрын
I didn't know there are people who don't use those lol
@lealtosaxist1117
@lealtosaxist1117 4 жыл бұрын
Using a mouthpiece pad screwed up my embouchure big time. I cant use them
@1dotele
@1dotele 7 жыл бұрын
they also protect your teeth
@McGillMusicSaxSchool
@McGillMusicSaxSchool 7 жыл бұрын
Definitely!
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