SBS Dual Busbar Consumer Unit

[@don1estelle]

David I think you'll geting your Equity or Rarder card in the Post soon lol two stars for your performance one each

[@dsesuk]

Why dahling, although dear Nigey Marsh may have hammed up his role on the night, I felt my own performance was a veritable tour-de-force. One simply oozed the character of electrician-with-crowbar-up-his-tradesman. The raw emotion. The clever mannerisms. The ironwork crammed right up the exhaust. One simply cannot understand why we got a Roger Ebert thumbs down, only two out of ten on IMDB and the review in the times calling us "a right pair of wankers".

[@dennisphoenix1]

Rada

[@JayTheSparky]

Totally agree with you regarding the boards and brands. As you say look how many are obsolete ect and finding it hard to come by. Also totally agree with the Hager comment, absolutely love Hager & the boards and the accessories etc, the only issue as you say is price vs CP Fusebox. Often found now if it’s a dual RCD board then Hager goes in, but if it’s RCBO (preferred) with SPD, Fusebox wins. Hager grommet strip is absolutely gash never used it now. Oddly the stuff CP give with their boards is really good.

[@VAX1970]

I think David should receive a long service medal for listening to Nigel's never ending rants!

[@stuartthespark]

A genuine view of an electrician day, talking absolute rubbish on the way to the job in a knackered'ish van, it took me all day to fit the board and my knees are creaking, and no I'm not numbering them up or dressing the cables for Instagram. It is sunny outside so lets do inside work, my tools are everywhere so packing up going to take a hour, at the end of the day the thoughts always turn to when can I retire or work for western power fitting £50 two pole isolators for £250. That cheared me up for half an hour, thanks Dave and Nige.

[@dsesuk]

"absolute rubbish", Stuart Riby - that's the movie poster quote I'm taking from this. Also, I'm putting an application in to Western Power...

[@mikeselectricstuff]

Dual busbars are long overdue - Let's just hope they standardise the dimensions so the breakers are interchangeable.

[@chrisb4009]

They still wouldn’t be interchangeable due to CE and UKCA certification. You’d also invalidate and warranty claim against either manufacturer.

[@kgfgfg1]

In Germany we have quad-Bus-Bars as the standard since 20+ Years now.. Phase 1+2+3 and Neutral. I am sometimes shoked that UK is so many years behind.

[@chrisb4009]

@@kgfgfg1 Why’s it behind? It’s just different?

[@kgfgfg1]

@@chrisb4009 Just see it for yourself how our CU look alike: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZpmcpKuLbJKIaaM My own CU is 1.10M Heigh and has a width of 5M. Around 60 Breakers, 8 RCDs and a lot of "Actuators" ( we do not Switch Phase for Lights, instead we use a Bus called DALI) or we use 24V LED Spots. I have 2 Bedroom 160m² House.

[@chriskirby3337]

Been using them in France for ages

[@leebutterworth7465]

in tears watching the last few minutes

[@helmanfrow]

It's funny watching UK sparkies marvel at stuff we've been using on this side of the pond for ages. In these parts we call that bus arrangement _plug-on netutral_ and it's been standard on essentially every new panel for years. All the major manufacturers have their own systems and there's no fear that any will be obsoleted.

[@jooproos6559]

Hear hear!We also do that in the Netherlands.

[@esfae8250]

Evening Dave. Cracking Video. Great to have y9ou back. Something good to watch for a change.

[@dsesuk]

Nice to see you back too old fruit.

[@JBE]

Bloody builders eh! You should of zapped him with a 1000 volts from the T.I.S then had Nigel bend over near him to make him disappear into the black hole void of American twinkies. Tidy job with that board David 👌I hope Jordan helped you out with that crow bar removal trick he knows 😉👍 we love you Jordan. Nice to have the two Ronnies back too.

[@dsesuk]

I shall certainly be leaving that builder chap a strongly worded review on his Trustpilot page. If he has one.

[@richardbushnell1065]

@@dsesuk He's probably on checkatrade.

[@stevehenke678]

Fucking hell man, I'm literally in tears at the end.

[@RichardArblaster]

Welcome back guys and I see you have Jordan in the middle seat. 😆😆😆

[@dsesuk]

Jordan likes to ride 'bitch'.

[@martinjp1]

If only you could fast forward Nigel all day!

[@dsesuk]

I'd like to mute Nige and fast forward myself to the end of each working day. Although, if I had that control, I'd just rewind whenever I woke up and repeat the previous night's drinking and sleeping.

[@garry2115]

Hi David/Nigel, A masterclass in the art of entertainment! A masterpiece in an SBS C. U. installation! I see Jordan wanted to get in on the act! Brilliant upload! 👍⚡️

[@dsesuk]

I'm seeing the word 'master' applied here, but not with the ending we're usually associated with.

[@CbrigBear87]

@@dsesuk Mastur*

[@Kippaxx61]

Fantastic as usual absolutely pissed my self with the ending keep up the great work and comedy

[@dsesuk]

Cheers Chris. I'll send you the crowbar as a souvenir. Just... wipe the top half with Dettol before use.

[@Lyndalewinder]

@@dsesuk Don't you mean the bottom half?

[@terenceoconnor1584]

Oh i’ve missed you guys the abbott and Costello or Adam and Eve of domestic electrical Installation. Thanks

[@dsesuk]

Adam and Eve? More Trevor and Steve I fear.

[@matelotjim9035]

More Richie and Eddie of electrical installation. Complete with comedy violence and general not giving a fuckery 👍

[@chrislaing7153]

Jordan was very quiet in the conversaition about Twinkies. If the foodie Corey was sitting there it would have been completly different; he would have an opinion

[@bigalz5563]

About bloody time! The picture of Jordan amuses me, not sure why!

[@dsesuk]

There are another two in active edit but, you know, the sun is shining and someone needs to clear out the well stocked beer fridge.

[@bigalz5563]

@@dsesuk I’m doing the same to my fridge, heroes like us don’t get enough recognition - imagine how full they would be without our hard work/dedication……..

[@dsesuk]

@@bigalz5563 I hear that brother. There should be a urinating statue of us somewhere holding our pint glasses aloft to the gods.

[@bigalz5563]

@@dsesuk outside every Lidl

[@9plusinstalaciones]

That Twinky was a fleshlight

[@rossmurdoch1886]

This was another practical demo of the underrated crowbar! Maybe he was trying to find your Ze fault

[@blahh397]

Swarfega and big wipes .- remove crowbar - follow up with enema of Dave's Insanity Sauce.... Oh, love the dual busbar CU by the way.

[@raywelshman]

Welcome back Dave & Nigel, this was one of the best videos I have seen for such a long time, I hope the crowbar has now been extricated from your rear end.. Come on Dave we need more like this please.. Many thanks from the old sod from North Wales..

[@dsesuk]

It was extracted eventually Ray, although I'm going to have to get a new one. It's... tainted... and now neither myself or Nigel feel we can use it when pulling up floorboards.

[@DelH555]

Honestly not laughed so hard in ages 😁 blinking end buckled me 😂😂😂😂

[@dsesuk]

It buckled you? Damn thing was in up the hilt - I couldn't buckle for a couple of days afterwards.

[@SME_Ste]

We dabbled with SBS via talk electrician forums around 2010. The only downside we found was the availability of additional devices. 1 example is a job that had a SBS board fitted by another company, we needed an RCBO and they couldn’t supply for a week as they were on holiday Wylex devices for balcony busbars are still widely available chief

[@dsesuk]

I believe SBS are under new management now, but I don't know how big they are. When you're a single source of supply, the business does depend on being able to supply the goods when needed! You're right about the Wylex availability. With them, it's a case of knowing which model number to order as sods law will have you turning up with an NHXL device when an NHX is needed.

[@dsesuk]

@@zlmdragon. I take pride in exercising my right to use the free market to select the best equipment for the job. It also happens to restrict what electrically unskilled third-parties such as kitchen fitters, handymen and DIY'ers can do to bastardise it post installation, and it limits what my competitors can later offer which is good for my business. Confusing though it may be to you, and however much it makes you curl up into a sobbing ball with a weeping mangina, I am here to run a business.

[@dsesuk]

@@zlmdragon. Well, someone's got to do the work and pay the taxes to keep your benefits coming in.

[@dsesuk]

@@zlmdragon. Minimum tax is for the rich and juiced-in; small outfits like mine pay through the nose for everything. It would be nice, one day, to be one of those who has so much money that I don't have to fork it over on pesky things like tax, but it won't happen as an electrician. Mind you, I never could figure out why those with millions always wanted to accumulate more millions. Surely it comes to a point where you have all you really want and it's then just a big number on a bank statement?

[@tommcdermott1989]

Real language, no adverts, best technical knowledge, funny and no fucking ITS. Savery number 1 by a long way.

[@dsesuk]

It's all very warts and all here Tom!

[@charlotterobinson9452]

I love the SBS dual busbars! Pretty much the only consumer units I fit if I have time to order one.

[@dsesuk]

Ah, have you put some in? How do you get on with them?

[@charlotterobinson9452]

@@dsesuk I think I've put 6 in, without checking my records. I do really like them, my boards look like the one you put in where it's neat but I don't spend my life wanking over the boards I put in. But I really like the neutral busbar for both the speed and neatness benefits.

[@dsesuk]

@@charlotterobinson9452 Good stuff. I must admit, they're a new one on me but it's nice to hear others are more familiar with them.

[@djFadeOut122]

I've never heard of SBS, but since circuit breakers in the Netherlands are always double pole, MCB or RCBO, the dual busbar is very common. And handy it is too. We also have a three-phase version carrying all three phases and neutral, sequencing between the phases for each breaker. Single module RCBO's are becoming more and more popular, however most are still double width. GE, Siemens, ABB, ETI and a few no-name brands do carry 'em. Since Hager has single module RCBO's in the UK (with the neutral tail) I do expect them to land over here some day, with the double-busbar connection on both sides. Interesting how they still install a Neutral bar in the top, even though you don't really need one.

[@dsesuk]

Very interesting. I wonder why it's so uncommon here. As usual, it seems we have our entrenched ways of doing things even when better ideas come along and are adopted elsewhere.

[@kimmason9935]

When I worked in Rotterdam I thought the Dutch systems where miles behind us there conduit is shit 2mm plastic they don't use bends the cable is exposed on 90 bends all the fuse boards had screwing fuses, no such things as fused spurs that was an office don't know if domestic is better a standard this was in 2002 I did like the way they fit sockets and switches they have round back boxes hole cutters no padsaw👍

[@Marcel_Germann]

There's also a four pole version available by different manufacturers for three-phase supplies, the single phase RCBOs are then distributed evenly on the three phases: L1, N, L2, N, L3, N, L1, N and so on. RCDs and RCBOs switching the L and N is also common here in Germany, MCBs only switch the line and not the neutral. Three-phase is common here, even in domestic dwellings. Usually a single family home's service entry fuses are 3x63A here.

[@Marcel_Germann]

@@kimmason9935 The conduit is only there to guide the cable, not for mechanical protection, it's not necessary because the NYM cable is robust enough. The cable can also be clipped to the wall without the conduit. BTW: We also do that in Germany. The bends are only necessary if you use single insulated cable types like H07V-U (formerly known as NYA). Fused spurs are not necessary in radiant circuits which are properly fused in the board. You only require a fuse in between if you reduce the cable size and the smaller cable is not rated for the fuse/MCB rating of the circuit the spur originates from. Screwing fuses are usually only in use to fuse a sub-board somewhere. Usually Neozed D02 fuses, they got the same characteristic as the fuses you use in the UK (gG, general purpose fuse). This is to maintain selectivity, the MCB in the sub-board should trip before the fuse of the supply blows. The cheapest way to achieve this is by implementing a fuse instead of an MCB. BTW: These fuses were far ahead their time back then, the Diazed system was introduce in 1909, the Neozed was an improved version introduced in the 1960s. They have fitting elements inside to prevent the user from inserting a fuse with a too high rating. Electricians can change them, this requires a special tool. They also have also an indicator which pops out if the fuse is blown. The indicator is coloured, the colour indicates the rating of the fuse. In the cap is a small window, with this you can check the rating of the fuse and if it's blown or not without removing the fuse. The colours for the fuses originated from the Germania series postage stamps. Diazed and Neozed are trademarks of Siemens, their official names are D-type or D0 (zero). The screw cap version is the oldest and cheapest fuse carrierer, you can also get a more modern fused isolator switch. It uses the same fuse cartridges. www.amazon.de/Mersen-Lasttrennschalter-05863-063100-D0-Sicherungslasttrennschalter-3605340495904/dp/B003Z7O0WO/ref=sr_1_57?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=neozed+lasttrennschalter&qid=1622908051&sr=8-57 You can also get this as a single phase version, with or without isolating the neutral. Hager L75M for example: www.hager.de/hauptschaltgeraete/sicherungsmaterial/d0-schaltersicherungseinheit/l75m/1004896.htm The neutral is only switched, not fused! Only the lines are fused. If you open the lid the circuit is isolated, then you can remove the fuse. And about beeing far behind: The VDE banned the new installation of type AC RCDs already in 1983 with a transition period until 1984 here in Germany. Standard since then is the type A. Never seen a type AC RCD here in an installation. Push in connections for outlets and switches, and you should also check out Hager Quick Connect. So much for far behind...😉

[@djFadeOut122]

​@@kimmason9935 Screw-in fuses are generally only found in older buildings, or for applications where high inrush-currents are to be expected. Also, main fuses in Dutch homes are generally D02 or D03 Diazed fuses. Sometimes they also use 15kA capable single-pole MCB's, one per phase. An other popular fuse is the NH-fuse (blade fuse, "mespatroon"), from 10A up to 630A, generally used in main distribution boards in large buildings, since their breaking capacity is way higher than a regular breaker. Or in larger distribution boards as "pre-protection", to be able to use standard breakers where the short-circuit current might otherwise be too high. As for the conduit, 2mm sidewall is normal, so it's easy to bend. There's diffrent types of concuit for every application, (PVC, VSV, halogeen free) and it's permitted to leave the corners open, since the cable (YmVK or YmZ1K) offers enough mechanical protection. I tend to bend the corners, since it looks much neater. For other applications, like fire alarm systems (high integrity), you will have to bend all corners or use flexicon, as added protection. Houses are generally wired in singles (H07V-U) in conduit, and that means that you can't leave any open corners since the singles don't offer two layers of insulation. It also allows the singles to be pulled from box to box to device. A typical dutch house has a single-phase 35 amp fuse or 40 amp breaker, or a 3-phase 25 amp supply. Electric showers aren't a thing here, since most houses have a gas combination boiler or an immersion heater tank (which we simply call electric boiler). Also heat-pumps are rising in popularity. A higher intake fuse rating might be needed for EV chargers or other high-current applications, but that also gets very expensive because the delivery charge "vastrecht" skyrockets when the capacity increases. A general circuit is wired in 2,5mm2 cable and protected by a B16 breaker. All circuits are radials, usually with a junction box in the ceiling in the center of each room (centraaldoossysteem), to which the light fitting is usually mounted. A circuit per floor or "front of house/back of house" is pretty typical. High-draw appliances like washing machines, dishwashers, ovens etc get their own circuit. Generally they aren't hardwired, but plugged in to a dedicated single socket, which also is the point of isolation. Fused spurs aren't a thing here, most appliances have intake fuses, and a short-circuit in the supply cable usually causes a current high enough to trip the breaker in a timely fashion. 16 amps is the standard rating of our household outlets and plugs.

[@davidb3537]

Thanks for showing the SBS board a definite improvment. For a moment I thought you were tempted to switch that RCBO back on just to soften him up a little before giving the guy an ear bending!

[@dsesuk]

I think this guy would have laughed off anything other than three-phase.

[@tobylloyd]

Another informative and interesting video with a good amount of humour to keep us all sane :) Thank you for lighting up my day. Many of my colleagues at work watch your content and love it also!

[@raymurphy9749]

Wonder why we haven't gone back to the old British Standards kitemark

[@dsesuk]

The kitemark still exists, but I think they represent different things. UKCA is a self-declaration of conformity required on certain products sold in the UK while the kitemark is owned by BSi and shows compliance testing to British Standards.

[@raymurphy9749]

@@dsesuk ah with you, as opposed to sending sample products off to the bsi to be certified 👍

[@mjtaber1974]

Only just noticed the Jordan poster in the van. Golden!

[@jamescole2739]

OMG!!!! Funny as hell, almost pissed myself 😂🤣😅

[@justme5384]

We use three phase busbar here in Finland. Most family homes has three phase, mainly only older apartment complexes has one phase per apartment. There are three phases at the basement. Usually there are three apartments per floor and stairway and they usually have phase one, two and three for those three apartments. Newer apartments have three phase at the consumer unit

[@susiegosain2202]

love these guys. they remind me of Richie and Eddie from bottom

[@davidtaylor4975]

Hi Mr S. Always good to see a new video being uploaded! That builder is hilarious. Always keep a bottle of vodka in the toolbox for such occasions!

[@dsesuk]

Noted. Alcohol is now going in the toolbox. Like.. uh.. it wasn't there before...

[@danielelise7348]

I love the way the van sounds like an F1 car,on ffwd!!😂😂

[@dennisphoenix1]

You are right about the memera 2000 boards , it was fitting them 25 years ago , single RCD version then . Now the rcbo's are over £100 , I just fit a newlec 2 pole RCD in an enclosure at the side and extend the cable , fraction of the price. The double pole has been a long time coming , looks like you have loads of room inside the board .

[@dsesuk]

Sure is nice not to have neutral tails cluttering the place up! I think with the Eaton stuff they got their pants pulled down by a partner or a patent or something. I spoke to them about it years ago, and I'm sure I was told it was too costly to licence that line, so they had to switch to a new design which wasn't compatible. The high price of RCBO pods for the old line isn't all going to them, someone else is taking a cut which is why they pulled the plug. I can't confirm that's true, just what I was told.

[@leebutterworth7465]

Hello David the original owner of the SBS brand was David Stansfield who was a Napit Field Officer (he was actually mine for several years) I have used a few of these dual busbar boards and his other standard rcbo's all are great products

[@jontownsend8090]

There was a lot of Russian expletives going on upstairs. I do like the twin bus bar consumer unit, i hope it performs better than an angry Russian with no juice and a tendency for incorrect use of a tool.

[@alexdavies6652]

Hi Dave thumbs up for listening to Nigel's rants haha. Dual busbar we use in aus all the time....you can get connector terminals that fit in with the neutral part of the busbar and the live part so you can say connect a 10mm neutral to the busbar without trying to ram it in the breaker like taking a nun home on a Saturday night

[@dsesuk]

We're behind the curve up here (as always), but thanks for the nun analogy - I may have to use that one in the future!

[@nopantsnoproblem1]

29:50 onwards literally could be a scene from a sparky comedy show. love from Australia boyz

[@jonyoungstow]

It's time to post an update to this Dave. With SBS no longer providing their wonderful units, we need to know who else does dual busbar units and what you think of them.

[@simplyshaker]

I came across your video from searching for electrics in England so I could help out an old friend and I was amazed by the difference between the electrics there and here in France. In France, we only have the dual busbar CU type. Nice video by the way, really enjoyed it.

[@dsesuk]

Ah, well that's the British way Christopher. If we can do it differently, we will., even if everyone else has long since figured out a better way!

[@simplyshaker]

@@dsesuk The Resi9 XE series from Schneider electricity is lovely to work with, it's the support bar at the back of the box that acts as the busbar. once the dual busbar thing catches on over there then I'm sure they will start offering the solutions like that. Of course nothing changes safety wise but it does make for a tidy box and less chance of tampering from Joe Bloggs.

[@chrisrice2598]

I prefer a board with no knock outs. if you need to drill a hole on a retrofit and it happens to land near a knock out it can be a toughie to drill it out without taking the KO too.

[@dsesuk]

I know what you mean and my Armeg holesaws make quick work of adding additional openings into any metal board. Still, if I can whack it with a hammer instead of going to the bother of fetching the drill then so much the better.

[@soyebmankda8387]

Dave the ending needs part 2 where your thrown out from window and land on Nigel, then we see the window open with builder having flexicon stuck up his nose artisan electric sticker on his forehead and then the back of van whilst driving away leaving nigel running behind chasing it

[@barryromford3792]

I fitted loads of SBS consumer units in my area, found them to be excellent and as you mention, it stops diy Bob in his tracks.

[@dsesuk]

That's good to know Barry.

[@rowanNClangley]

I have my doubts, having seen bodgit solar butcher a BG busbar to fit a Niglon mcb, I am sure the same charlie uniform would just leave a SBS board with a busbar minus a finger (probably the wrong one) with who knows what forced into its place

[@detroutspinners9933]

Nigel: “what’s that, 9mm?” Also Nigel: “bring back feet and inches” 😂

[@johntaylorelectricalservic8045]

Fantastic guys, great to see a bit humour while going about the daily graft 👍

[@dsesuk]

Cheers John!

[@Cablesmith]

That ending 👌🏼😂😂

[@markpunt9638]

The grand hotel in Brighton still has Crabtree shaver outlets in its bathrooms as we speak 👍

[@Daniells1982]

Always a pleasure to see you chaps and your normal builder related sheriff's badge abusing shenanigans. I was astounded by the shear passion emanating from Nige with regards to his hatred of twinkies and his love of a smart price Swiss roll. Nice consumer unit by the way. Surely the dual bus bar must be becoming more common?

[@dsesuk]

Good to see you here again old sport. When in the van, Nige tends to get passionate about all sorts of subjects I'm not interesting in listening to, but that doesn't discourage him. It will be interesting to see if the dual busbar becomes a thang here - apparently it's not uncommon on other shores.

[@Daniells1982]

@@dsesuk makes sense now most are buying into the benefits of RCBOs and the potential of AFDDs being forced into our orifices, almost crowbar like, in the second amendment. Makes for a neater and easier job without those pesky neutral tails floating about the rear of the CU.

[@leightonhughes1635]

Great to see a new on site vid from you boys !! Long overdue. More pls

[@martinedwards4458]

I make my own grommet strip cable outer sheath cut with side cutters & glue no need to buy grommet strip.

[@martinedwards4458]

Love the Banta you got to have a laugh you guys are brilliant!

[@sirronnitram8937]

If Jordan's photo could speak, he'd be saying "Bus-bar, not Buzz-bar"

[@SproutyPottedPlant]

I ❤️ buzzbar! Reminds me of happy times as a kid when me Nan would take me on the buzzes

[@dsesuk]

I suspect he'd have a lot more to say, and none of it good.

[@kyester123]

That photo has probably seen all sorts go on in the van.

[@andrewdooley4214]

Brilliant you guys are informative yet entertaining 👏

[@normanboyes4983]

Brilliant. Thanks for putting this together Dave. Maybe taking the crowbar was a poor strategy, should have took a Twinkie.😉

[@dsesuk]

Next time I want to look threatening, I'll arm myself with something softer like a loofah. Or a baguette.

[@mjmcginnelectricalltd5433]

Fantastic consumer unit, there the only units I use anymore. Normally have them delivered next day.

[@ManxAndy]

Oh joy......my week has just got so much better with this upload 👍💪🇮🇲🍺🔥. Coffee support sent👍

[@dsesuk]

I salute you sir! And I assure you that your generous donation will be spent on coffee and not pissed up the wall on cheap lager from Aldi. Possibly.

[@ManxAndy]

@@dsesuk don’t worry….neither will offend me, as much as seeing Nigel’s arse crack back on KZbin….lol 😂😂😂

[@efixx]

Brilliant 🤩

[@mistermartin82]

The main problem IMHO with the CE mark is that its the manufacturer self certifying compliance with the regs. So the mark itself is genuine, but there is no guarantee at all that the applier of the mark did any tests to confirm compliance

[@dsesuk]

It does seem like it's past the point where it no longer has any credible meaning. Maybe the whole UKCA thing will be a good thing, at least for a while, if CE has become too forged to trust.

[@mistermartin82]

@@dsesuk looks like the UKCA thing is much the same for many product types, like CE marking you are supposed to declare conformity (keeping records as to why you think you comply) apply the mark and keep records for 10 years. Now if your say Sony that’s no problem if your selling generic phone chargers down the market, working out who made the declaration wil be nigh on impossible. What we really need is a mark with product Id number checkable say on an app by anyone(enter I’d gives you maker, product description, photo and confirmation design has been independently tested). Although if you do that there won’t be many brands willing to jump through those hoops for our market size

[@gadgetman36]

@@dsesuk The only credible meaning of CE these days is “Chinese Export”! 🤣

[@petertrevena804]

The racket upstairs just so funny. One ticked of Ruskie.

[@rattlehead85]

Hahaha top tele as per usual from these two. Ol’ Jordan in the background in the van 😂😂😂😂 Do use him to charge Nigels toy batteries?? 😂😂

[@jooproos6559]

I am still amazed by the fact you put so much switches in a row after the Earth Leak switch!We in the Netherlands never ever put more than 4 after a Earthleak switch because of the surety of always a small earth leak wil happen per switch!So say ten switches and the Eartleak is already to high..So i dont understand why this is apparently not the case in Britain..

[@johnburns4017]

We tend to go for RCBO's and AFDDs these days. That solves the problem.

[@kendoknackersackee]

I believe that handsome chap at 7:16 is called Sting. 🤔

[@dsesuk]

Ah, it's one of those rock n' roll posters the kids are all into.

[@G8TIC]

I am told that Consumer Units/Boards with double busbars are common in foreign parts, e.g. Europe, where TT systems are more common and are also used in things like camper vans where phase/neutral reversal could be more common. IMO made a wide range of compact RCBOs with "two in/two out" connections for use with double busbar systems. I have used them for mains wiring in camber vans where you cannot rely on polarity on camp sites.

[@markyd2633]

Absolutely feckin brilliant......tea everywhere again.......like the look of them boards as well.......looking forward to the next one

[@dsesuk]

Sorry for the spillage again MD. Yeah, I like the idea of fitting kit the competition won't have ready spares for!

[@inspireG380]

Pissed up watching this shit on a Saturday night. Wouldn't have it any other way 🤣

[@dsesuk]

It's the only way to take it.

[@gadgetman36]

@@dsesuk I watch all your videos fully sober! 🤣

[@majorpygge-phartt2643]

What a good idea having a neutral bus bar, so much neater for fitting RCBO's and that CU looks like it's designed for a TT system where it's essential to have RCD's or RCBO's on every circuit 'cos then they don't give you an earth and you have to provide your own with a rod or a buried mesh. That must be a bit dangerous when you're high up in the hills with a really low water table and therefore really dry soil, especially during a frying hot drought. Much neater and more practical than a split load one where there's only one RCD and if it trips it takes out several circuits at once.

[@AmauryJacquot]

there are methods to set that up properly, with a gravel well

[@kingofthetrowel1725]

Only clicked on to look at a sbs board what my sparky is putting in for me and I’m in stitches, Russian builders upstairs shoutin n brayin about and then David walking down stairs wiya crowbar up his jaxy 😂😂😂😂 brilliant what a laugh nice one fellas 👍new sub 👍👍.... so are them boards ok 🤔 I asked my sparky about a fuse box one but said he only fits sbs 🤔 good pointer about if they go, so does getting hold of bits for them ...

[@dsesuk]

I rate the SBS stuff - my latest upload shows another one of their boards going in. I don't see them as too much of a risk as they've been around for some years now and their stuff is made by DL who cover other brands such as LIVE.

[@kingofthetrowel1725]

@@dsesuk nice one David I’ll be watching 👍👍 thanks for reply 🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@jordanwilkey932]

Nice to have this entertaining duo back on screen

[@garethhodson3896]

Good to see you back! Old school sparks 😂

[@mikeenglish6734]

Thanks for the new vid David. Hope you are enjoying a nice cold beer now summer is officially here!

[@dsesuk]

I've been enjoying more than my fair share Mike. That's one of the reasons I haven't finished editing other videos!

[@kevinpearson1600]

Fitted a lot of these and like the fact that you can order ready built up they also listen to comments for improvement a great company

[@dsesuk]

Ah! So you're the guy whose been putting them in! You find them a good solution then Kevin?

[@AmauryJacquot]

that consumer unit is very close to what we do on the continent...

[@mickadams4471]

Crying with laughter here, best ending ever.

[@sam04019491]

“Fudge flavoured soft-whip dispenser” 😂

[@davidpatterson1574]

Great to see the “A” team back.

[@dsesuk]

Just don't tell me what the A stands for.

[@stupot_64]

@@dsesuk I don't know what the A stands for, but I know what my D stands for.

[@Fishbait075]

@@stupot_64 David in a compromised situation? :P

[@xxDADDYDAYCARExx]

YAY !!!! Missed you two old gits. ..... still say you're the best and make the best vids. Fully piss ed myself laughing when the fast forwarding started lol Bet you wished that worked in real life ❤❤❤❤❤👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@dcobblers]

Glad to see Nigel/Andrew Fearn has time off from his busy day job with the Sleaford mods to give you a hand with some wiring. Top stuff! "Tarantula deadly cargo" etc

[@dsesuk]

I have Tiswas on my MP3 app.

[@michaelcox4081]

Some good points there, i’ll give these boards a look and see. However in my area its down to cost and I’ll never be able to compete with the DIY’ers that buy BG from crapfix if they are too high

[@dsesuk]

There's no point trying to compete on price which is why we perhaps change out so few consumer units per annum. We do it our way - SPDs, Type-A RCBOs, an EICR upfront and no half measures. If someone wants to pay less for a dual-RCD unit from a DIY store installed by a bloke who hasn't tested anything and intends to get whatever factory-fitted devices in place whether they're right for the job or not, well that's their lookout. A lot of my work comes from people paying me to put right someone else's wrongs.

[@michaelcox4081]

@@dsesuk Thats funny as a lot of my work is also putting right other peoples crap. Sorting out crap EV points are my big thing at the moment.

[@joehomanick]

I almost pissed myself laughing at 4:30 in the morning. I laughed so hard I shook the bed and woke up the other half. 🤣🤣

[@dsesuk]

I'm sorry to have disturbed your nocturnal activities Joseph, please apologise to your better half on my behalf! Oh, and turn that phone off and go to sleep young man!

[@garethblake3941]

Excellent video, very informative and highly amusing as one has learnt to expect. Just a quick question did you say that the RCBO's were double pole switched units? Keep up the good work and stay safe.

[@dsesuk]

Cheers Gareth. I can confirm the RCBOs are double-pole switched so the neutral disconnects when they're clocked off.

[@brianwood5220]

You are wasted as an electrician, you would have made a great "Carry-on" actor. Sid James would have been in fits of laughter.

[@andrewthomas405]

Oh david Brexit was DEFINATLY the way to go …but saying that whilst working in france around 10 years ago I was fitting double pole mcbs boards and though it was a great idea…apart from that nothing much to say about the french reality 👍👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧. Fly the flag man

[@drifironz7553]

I have been waiting for some quality sharns for too long-twinky chat. 10/10

[@richardhince9764]

Here in France, where I'm an electrician, dual busbars like this have been the norm for years (and they are push fit! Hardly anything uses screw terminals)

[@dsesuk]

Something like the Crabtree Starbreaker line? Damn good idea if you ask me!

[@liamjordan5935]

Artsian who.... brilliantly Nigel in mankini next

[@anonnona8099]

I am utterly, utterly, bemused, gobsmacked and thoroughly WTF'd. 2-pole, 3-pole,and 4-pole busbars have been around for donkey's years. They really have.

[@dsesuk]

Quite so, but they're not the common standard domestically in the UK. Out in the wild, I've encountered precisely... none in the nine years I've been running my business.

[@RichardArblaster]

32:36 I bet that brought tears 😆😆😆

[@mikenewman9372]

16.15 . If you’ve got a Wylex board over 10 years old you certainly can get MCB’s and RCBO’s for it. The NHXB range fit any Wylex board fitted in the last 20 years. Our DLO fit thousands of them every year in upgrades. They also fit every unit they sell now. Very misleading of you to say otherwise.

[@dsesuk]

This has been addressed in the description and follows on from my own Wylex upgrade to AFDDs in a previous video. It was an error, but then shit happens.

[@Richardincancale]

2:50 “If anyone does hear this conversation…” - was more of a monologue than a conversation - I guess the closeness to ‘twinks’ explains the attraction :-)

[@dsesuk]

If Nige talks and I'm not in the van to hear him, does he make any sound? Profound, no?

[@ericthekingthekingtheking4842]

David your a comedy genius 🤣🤣

[@Cablesmith]

Been seeing SBS crop up for a few years and always put off for the same reason Nigel stated.

[@dsesuk]

I guess the fact they have been around for a few years means someone somewhere is buying them!

[@Cablesmith]

@@dsesuk yea true, didn’t think about that tbh.

[@steve3948]

Been using these over 6 years now and no problem, plus carry full range of spare RCBO’s so your covered.

[@davenorth1265]

The Old Boy that started SBS is a retired NAPIT assessor. That is why it's trade sales only :) I Hope Ben gave you a decent discount!

[@dsesuk]

Ah, interesting stuff! Have you any experience with them Dave? I've seen bits and bobs on the forums going back a few years, but not a lot of talk regarding people putting them in day to day.

[@tomgriffin286]

Bloody funny video! I think all bedroom fitters are the same, at least the two that fitted my bedroom were. I still have a double socket in my wardrobe!!

[@dsesuk]

If you want it cutting off, I can pass on the phone number for a Russian gent I know.

[@tomgriffin286]

@@dsesuk Cheers David but I'll pass on this occasion!

[@cbcdesign001]

omg, that ending was hilarious!

[@knoxieman]

Funny video but you can keep that distribution box, what possible benefit does it offer the customer? Your rcd or rcbo gives out and there's only 1 supplier, erm no thanks.

[@dsesuk]

It is a bit of an eggs-in-one-basket deal, but then how often does an RCBO fail?

[@steve3948]

6 years and only one faulty, but carrying spares saves the day 😃

[@TheSparkysdog]

Great video once again! Hope you recover from the injury soon David 🤣🤣 Will HSE be investigating, after all it was an injury in the workplace 👍

[@dsesuk]

I emailed them all the pictures the nice nurse at the hospital took, but for some reason I haven't had a reply.

[@TheSparkysdog]

@@dsesuk 🤣🤣🤣👌

[@danielelise7348]

5hrs of Twinkie later,I'm pissing myself before it's even begun,get ya hand off ya Twinkie Nige & I see Jordan is working with them today 😂😂😂

[@dsesuk]

This is why I only accept jobs in my local postcode area. I can't be doing with being trapped in a van with Nige for any long journeys.

[@terenceoconnor1584]

@@dsesuk Nigel is Gold the way he looks at you when you get on your high horse is brilliant

[@waynenrich]

Love the pic of ur idol Jordan from Artisan electrics

[@mrclive5]

Awesome vid. I'm not a fan of board changes either, especially on older installations, I'll gladly leave those to that fella down the pub "electrics are piss, I'll do it"!

[@elminster8149]

Wow, that builder was not happy!

[@dsesuk]

Few trades are when we're on site pulling the power and farting constantly.

[@elminster8149]

@@dsesuk Yeah, you should cut down on the farting, so inconsiderate, and a fire hazard to boot!

[@imark7777777]

As a technical person I find it interesting although I would be annoyed if I could not replace a faulty part myself being competent. However I know that Mr. kitchen fitter will get his hacksaw out and five minutes later without turning anything off have something? fitting in there. In this case I've seen enough videos online to know that you need some help over there, go proprietary. That is until the black market appears?

[@tarodchaoslord]

I've been thinking about trying one of these boards I love the idea

[@gadgetman36]

Seriously guys you should use kneeling mats or wearable knee pads to protect your knees from hard floors or you'll regret it later in life.

[@dsesuk]

There was a Screwfix kneeling mat among the mess on the floor and we have pads in our trousers. Had I thought about it, I could probably have set up my Rack-a-Tiers as a seat for this one.