Scam Turismo (The Jimquisition)

[@guitarsimon1]

‘This year we’ve introduce a number of features to make GT even more realistic, real world geographical cloud sims, accurate astronomy, late stage capitalism, reduced race payouts to reflect your reduced wage payouts. Can’t afford the car in real life? Well you can’t here either’

[@Relugus]

It truly is the REAL racing simulator. No Dodge Viper or Chaparral for you, you'll just have to grind in your Reliant Robin on an oval track 10,000 times if you want a decent car.

[@RobTheDoodler]

@@Relugus Oh man if the Reliant was in here I would’ve been over the moon lol

[@LosRes]

lookin out for the top 1%...now that's a sim!

[@deepergodeeper7618]

there is nothing wrong with capitalism ao i dont know why you use that as a bad thing but npc gonna npc i guess

[@RobTheDoodler]

@@deepergodeeper7618 he said late stage capitalism, which is not the same as simply saying capitalism.

[@Reiderreiter]

There’s one part of how predatory GT7 gets that didn’t get mentioned but deserves a ton of scorn as well. Occasionally as you play the game, you’ll get an “exclusive invite” to purchase a top-level car. But as with all the others, it costs an obscene amount of credits _AND_ it’s a limited time offer. So they also prey upon players with some good old-fashioned FOMO as well. Fucking hell, I was so excited for this game…

[@radioactivetrees9626]

I'm enjoying it but the times I've ran the WTC 700 is ridiculous. Even the 30min. High speed ring mission paid out like 10k. Stupid.

[@nickwilliams6621]

@@radioactivetrees9626 Why? Why are you doing those events when events like European Champioinship and Trial Mountain Cup are staring at you in the face? The European Championship is like 150K for 3 races [which have 3 laps each]. I did this event 3 times in a Clio and bought an AMG Black Series '20, so it now takes me 20mins each time. Trial Mountain Cup is 2 races, 2 laps each and has a prize pool of 100K [Takes like 10mins to do in a slower car]. What are you doing? Also, in GT7... championship prizes aren't halved upon completing like previous numbered titles. Also, this content creator forgot to mention that there is going to be a 100% race reward increase in an upcoming update aswell as the ablity to sell your car, Endurance Races and other things I have probably forgotten to mention -.-

[@radioactivetrees9626]

@@nickwilliams6621 What am I doing? I'm enjoying driving cars I like. You know, having fun...you tool.

[@steamfeuver]

There needs to be legal consequences for voluntarily hiding features to game reviewers outlets. These kind of shifty fucking moves makes all the reviewers of the game look like either absolute doofus or completely dishonest, and it hurts their reputation as much as the studio doing it. How are you supposed to promote FOMO while also punishing everyone who bought in the game because they trusted reviews and trailers? It's complete nonsense.

[@khuntington]

ive wondered, can't ign/kotaku/youtube guys just simply modify and repost the review? just completely delete the page outright, and post a brand new review at a new url with the new score, and act like the first review never even happened. don't add an addendum, don't add a byline. just post a brand new whole new review. 😂🤣

[@Pilchard123]

@@khuntington It risks the reviewer/site being put on the, uh... "less-cooperative" list, and then they'll not get advance review copies.

[@mesothelimoa341]

It certainly should be considered false advertisement.

[@exantiuse497]

If I was a game reviewer I would begin and end every review with a disclaimer warning the reader that the developer might have changed the game after the review was published. Heck, I'd tell my readers to not buy any AAA game until a week after launch at the least

[@RobotMasterSplash]

Duh, the reviewers are in bed with publishers.

[@bf1701]

That moment when you realize grinding for a fake Aston Martin will take as much time as grinding for a real Aston Martin.

[@kallemetsahalme5701]

but its an nft so no one will can buy the same exact aston martin waaaaah

[@MasouShizuka]

I'd argue it'll take as much time to not only get a real one but also to get a driving license.

[@nickwilliams6621]

You haven't played the game have you? lol. It'll take you about 20mins to get one in-game.

[@xDarkAngelxc]

Yeah but imagine doing what you did in the game in real life to get that car.

[@DuckRotation]

@@nickwilliams6621 wait if it takes 20 minutes then what's the problem exactly?

[@andresbordoni9277]

"We want the car prices to feel real! ... Oh, but the race prizes will be about 1% of any official race in real life." Yeah, good one, Phonyphony.

[@harrydh213]

Almost all motor racing has zero prize money (not counting America because everything's backwards there)

[@QuintessentialQs]

@@harrydh213 really? I didn't know that. How do racers and their teams get paid? Just through sponsorships?

[@1boredcanadian]

@@QuintessentialQs Sponsorships, prize winnings, merchandise, partnerships, ad revenue, things like that. There's a reason Ferrari, Mercedes-AMG, Aston Martin, and McLaren sell random stuff with their logo plastered all over it at ten times the cost of what it's worth.

[@dspada27]

@@1boredcanadian prize winnings? Isnt that money for winning a race?

[@1boredcanadian]

@@dspada27 That and their winnings from their final position in the championships, driver bonuses and sponsor bonuses from their final position in a given race, and probably some other stuff I'm forgetting.

[@shirkingviolet6018]

“We would really appreciate it if everyone could watch over the growth of Gran Tarismo 7 from a somewhat longer term point of view.” They forfeited that privilege when they deliberately hid an aspect of the game from reviewers to avoid backlash before its release. The community has every right to be pissed and criticize the GT7 with the amount of respect the team has shown them.

[@Valzahd]

It's also really rich for them to expect players to think long term when the whole triple A industry is notoriously short sighted in their efforts to make a lot of profit.

[@mergele1000]

If the game isn't ready yet, how about just not selling it yet?

[@nickwilliams6621]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpq2gIyde7Sobqc Just watch this video and stfu. Content creators need to read the damned patch notes in regards to upcoming updates ffs and stop whinging about microtransactions that don't even shed a candle on the behemoth cash cows like GTA Online and Warframe.

[@tubensalat1453]

@@mergele1000 The game was ready. It got pretty good reviews. What ruined the game were the decisions regarding the in-game economy, fueled by greed.

[@mergele1000]

@@tubensalat1453 But Yamanuchi themselves said that we shouldn't look at it how it is, but how it could become eventually. So if we shouldn't judge it yet, that must mean it isn't finished yet.

[@linguotgr]

I've said it before and I'm sure I'll end up saying it again, any game that lets you pay to skip grinding is openly admitting the game is awful. If its worth $40 to NOT have to play the game, then the game is worth less than $0. If you have to pay $40 to skip grinding, its an admission that the grind was added to make the game less fun. Because it would be just as easy to just add a button or two, lets call it a "cheat code" you could click to allow players to skip a grind and unlock the high end cars if they dont have the time to grind, and let players who want to grind just do the grind. Hell, it would be easier, because no one would need to program a storefront.

[@akmal94ibrahim]

Everytime when developers say microtransactions are "player choice" and to "help gamers who don't have the time to play", everybody, especially games journalists, need to rebut with "Then, why don't you add cheatcodes instead?" I'm pissed off when developers come up with this crap excuse for microtransactions when the solution to what they pretend the problem was, has already been in gaming for ages.

[@johnmickey5017]

I 100% understand why a dev uses a currency system to manage game progression, that’s legitimate design. But don’t say “someone who doesn’t want to grind can pay more.” Just let them bypass the advancement system with a toggle. Like, it was annoying that I had to enter an All Songs unlock code when booting a fresh copy of Guitar Hero, but at least the game didn’t charge me $40 extra for the “privilege.”

[@mjc0961]

@@akmal94ibrahim That's what pissed me off about that whole "Ubisoft devs crapping on Elden Ring" controversy a few weeks back. When that photoshop of what Elden Ring would look like if made by Ubisoft showed up, some dev gets on Twitter going on about "if your game looks like that it's because you want it to, we have options in the game, options for players are great!" MFer your company makes games where the "option" to skip the grind is locked behind microtransactions. If you care that much about player choice, let players choose to skip the grind via a simple toggle that costs nothing. Until then this player chooses not to touch Ubisoft games at all. Like OP said, those games are worth less than $0. Paying nothing to skip the game is the most efficient and cheap way possible to skip the grind! Also this is the obligatory mention that Ubisoft still hasn't gotten rid of Yves Guillemot and still hasn't done anything to clean up the culture of sexual abuse to the satisfaction of their employees.

[@ThanhLe-ti8nx]

The only pay-to-skip I can accept is in a free-to-play game, games are not free, and it's something that can be monetized (moderately) without pissing too much people off. I simply can't imagine paying full price game and then pay more to skip the grind, why do people even want to do that?

[@NaudVanDalen]

Playing the races themselves isn't less fun because they charge you to skip the grind. Grinding in racing games or FPS games isn't the same as grinding in an MMORPG or a mobile game.

[@LuizAlexPhoenix]

Me as a child: "I can't wait for games to become more advanced so I can drive around on my awesome realistic cars and tracks." Me as an adult: "I hope that the game lets me play with the cars they put in there without charging me extra or forcing me to drive longer than if I started doing Uber."

[@prof.loophole9708]

Imagine if we had a regulation that stated the inclusion of any form of transaction added post-release required a recall for rating re-review. This kind of shit would stop entirely because a recall is bad PR no matter what

[@BlitzkriegOmega]

Yeah, but regulating businesses is bad for some reason. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have micro transactions in the first place.

[@lehelisbored]

"...post-release required a recall for rating re-review". All those Rs made my eyes go wibbly wobbly, but yes, I agree with the point of your comment. Sadly, that would never happen, as the corporate lobbyists own the elected officials.

[@PookaBot]

The problem is review outlets lacking integrity and not delaying reviews or changing them later.

[@sluttyMapleSyrup]

@@PookaBot That and companies holding reviewers' careers hostage - and reviewers/journalists believing game publishers have the power to do so - by basically demanding specific things to be said in reviews and specific ratings to be awarded in order to continue receiving review copies/codes.

[@valletas]

This seens like a good idea until you think about it for 2 seconds and notice how it would affect even the best of DLC's our there... While i would love if something like this could be used to stop microtransactions the side effect of affecting dlc can really fuck with both "AAA" and indie studios

[@DeadlockDrago]

Friendly Reminder (Yong pointed this out too): Among the updates they'll be making as part of their back walking, one of which was increasing the upper limit of "non-paid credits" a player can have at any given time. And all they did was raise the limit, like why is there even a limit in the 1st place?! Rhetorical question, you all know why.

[@akmal94ibrahim]

Meanwhile, the paid credit has no limit. We all know why

[@mjc0961]

Another friendly reminder, _not_ among the updates was the removal of the always online requirement. The always online requirement is there so it's harder for players to "cheat" to get more credits. Example, you can't dodge the patch that lowers earnings because if you're not online to get the patch then you can't play anymore. The always online requirement has no benefit to the player of this _single player game_ As far as I'm concerned, GT7 is DOA and will remain dead until they remove the always online requirement, or the server being shut down literally kills the game.

[@nickwilliams6621]

Friendly reminder: There is also going to be a credit-reward increase of 100% with some events being given an even higher increase, the ability to sell your cars and Endurance races are also incoming.

[@DeadlockDrago]

@@nickwilliams6621 About that reward increase: Early on they nerfed rewards by as much as 66%, that example being the Goodwood from 35k to 12k. That's 1/3rd. 100% of 1/3rd makes 2/3rds, this example is literally 2 steps over the line and 1 step back. Everything mentioned shouldn't have to been a walk back in the 1st place, it's undeserving of applause of any sort.

[@Ce0ammer]

@@nickwilliams6621 How much is Sony paying you? Seems like easy bucks, where does one apply?

[@ElecTrishian924]

Jim's turned into a car? Now that's what I call a *Trans* Am!

[@XDieKillDieX]

They're supporting the Trans Mission.

[@Calcifina]

Oh thank you so much! Your comment gave me full on deep belly laughter and I needed that today! You have my Internet thanks for all eternity.

[@scottthewaterwarrior]

Damn it! I make that joke about Knight Rider all the time, how did I miss the opportunity here?!?

[@lionocyborg6030]

From Non Binary to Transfender. ;)

[@zensoredparagonbytes3985]

Transformers more than meets the eye

[@RogerSullivanNOLA]

The most manipulative aspect of GT 7 are the "Legendary cars" that are time limited in their availability. This will be the first GT game I skip entirely.

[@autobotstarscream765]

It's like they're tired of winning and _want_ to get killed by Forza and Game Pass.

[@DeosPraetorian]

@@autobotstarscream765 That's already been happening

[@alexfields8785]

Yeah, was really looking forward to a *real* Gran Turismo after gt sport. Now I feel naive. Glad I didn't buy it

[@KaiserAfini]

Let me guess, this was a deliberate attempt at anchoring. They will start with an egregious grind, then "fix" it at a point that is grindier than previous entrances. The public accepts it, their profit rises and players pay more for less. I expect nothing less.

[@RobertoArboleda]

Ah, the Destiny approach. Now I see why Sony bought Bungie

[@peterclarke7240]

Bunghole pretty much the industry experts at creating and selling a highly addictive drug, and keeping their consumers (and D2 is one of the few games where I willingly refer to It's player base as "consumers" rather than "customers") strung out on it and willing to accept any level of utter rat poison-cut garbage with the promise of "it'll be better tomorrow, you just have to keep going..." So yeah, expect more of the same from Sony from now on.

[@mattg6106]

@@RobertoArboleda I learned my lesson with Bungie. The Witch Queen came out to another 'this is the best Destiny has ever been' motif, which will once again end in, 'there's nothing to do now that I did all the grinding' so I guess I'll buy the dungeons and the battlepass. Nope! I'm not doing that shit again. Separating DLC content into multiple purchasables AND having the cash shop AND having a battlepass with FOMO-fueled seasonal purchases attached? You'd need to shell out over $100 just to play this DLC's first season content and that's just not cool. I wouldn't be surprised if they started selling raids as well, both old and new.

[@CWRules]

That's basically what they've done. Even if they do raise rewards by 100% as they claim they will, due to how expensive everything is GT7 will have among the slowest grinding of any game in the series.

[@peterclarke7240]

@@mattg6106 Yep, I gave up after Beyond Light, and I only played that because it was on Gamepass (i'd given it up for ages prior ot that). I think I mindlessly bought the season pass and then thought "wait, what the HELL am I doing?!" It's incredibly satisfying gameplay, no denying that, but that's why I think it fits the drug analogy so well: minute-to-minute its amazing, but when you actually stop and think about what you're doing, and WHY you're doing it, you realise you probably need to go Cold Turkey and seek help, because there's fuck-all point to the game beyond Chasing the Dragon.

[@LoneManProductions]

Every time I hear about a story like this, I remember seeing horse armour in Oblivion and the outrage the pricing of that caused. I remember thinking at the time, 'Surely this will be the only time. Surely game devs will see how stupid this was and will never do it again because the backlash will hurt them in the long run?' That was 2006, and it makes me sad that even now it doesn't look like they're going to stop any time soon.

[@Sage_the_Turt]

horse armor is quaint at this point. I'll take overpriced horse armor over all the manipulate bs scamming thousands of dollars out of vulnerable people.

[@timefoambathray9339]

I was playing with alexa's 'animal sounds' feature and after it made quite a few regular animal sounds I asked it "what does an iguana sound like?" She said "this sound is only available with the dinosaurs dlc pack." ANIMAL SOUNDS MICROTRANSACTIONS! I about had an aneurism, I 100% sounded like that Paul Dano scene where he's screaming in the new Batman movie. The future sucks

[@ponchowizard5182]

To be fair, I heard an iguana say that one time.

[@RedSpade37]

I don't want to believe that's real, but I know in my heart that it is.

[@K_i_t_t_y84]

I didn't want to believe that you were telling the truth because it sounded so ridiculous. So I looked it up. You're right. They're 2$. TWO DOLLARS FOR ANIMAL SOUNDS ON ALEXA.

[@StandardGoose]

An iguana isn't even a dinosaur!!

[@rainbowkrampus]

But more importantly, why does Jeff Bezos think that iguanas are dinosaurs? Man single handedly delivers billions of books a month and he never bothered to crack one open and learn about philology smh

[@Saint.Cosmos]

Also, something that I found especially egregious about this game is that there is a limit on how many credits you can actually hold at once. Correction, there is a limit on NON PURCHASED CREDITS. The game literally limits what you can earn from playing the game but doesn't limit how much extra real money you can spend. I would NEVER buy this game no matter how they change it and I love the GT series.

[@nickwilliams6621]

If you loved it as much as you say you do, you'd be playing it. Since you haven't actually started the game let alone how it actually works, you'd find that the only events that had their credits nerfed were Single Race events because they paid too high and people kept doing the same stage over again. Those who whinge about microtransactions aren't playing the game correctly and have no idea how to farm credits, because they don't know what a *Championship* is.

[@Saint.Cosmos]

@@nickwilliams6621 lol I have a real question for you - what were you hoping to accomplish here? I assure you that Sony does not care that you're defending their honor with your stupid logic, and I most certainly haven't been persuaded by it. You're clearly okay with being insulted as a consumer, but other more principled people are not. Why not just leave it at that and enjoy your game if it's so fair and balanced?

[@MurtorSH]

I'd like to highlight the fact that each and every weekly video on this channel has perfect working subtitles. Thanks for that, James Stephanie! And thank you Laura Kate Dale! And Justin McDaniel! And the rest of the team!

[@АлексейЯзовский]

And to Laura Kate Dale for the subtitles specifically!)

[@BasedAnarchist]

yh thats awesome 👍

[@ronnieradon]

I can't stand when people don't even enable auto subtitles. like literally it's just ticking a box bro

[@vegronica9006]

Yes, thank you Laura!!! 😊

[@Criselyon]

This, I don't even need them but I like using them

[@Tackitt]

“We want to make the game so realistic that you can’t afford the car in the game either”

[@jamesrule1338]

Remember when horse armor pissed us all off? I want to send the current status of TRIPPLE AAAAYYYYYY games back to that point in the past to rally an angry mob....

[@makani9004]

Hell, I've spent all month wishing I had horse armor in Elden Ring.

[@ddjsoyenby]

"they want 5$ horse armor" me: you'll h@t3 the future you baby.

[@Unquestionable]

I remember not giving much of a shit about horse armor as it was purely cosmetic but then even that same generation you had titles cutting insane amounts of content to sell it to us later. Definitely have gone down the worse path when it comes down to it.

[@cmdraftbrn]

those were the days. and dont forget "CrEaToRs ClUbs"

[@creamyeggs9652]

Microtransactions were absolutely around before the game was even out, don't know how people didn't even notice, I spotted them 6 days before the game was even released I seen them on PSN, don't agree with these types of MT's but I find it a little bit Sus that absolutely NOBODY noticed it 🤔

[@necrux]

Imagine if fantasy games had this level of gatekeeping: "I would like to have users enjoy lots of weapons even without microtransactions. At the same time the pricing of weapons is an important element that conveys their value and rarity. While I would like to give you this legendary sword, you are not in fact the chosen one." /sigh

[@autobotstarscream765]

"You want it? It's yours, my friend, as long as you have enough Gil."

[@mjc0961]

"I would like to have users enjoy lots of weapons even without microtransactions." Breath of the Wild be saying this though. I would all all the amiibo and season passes required macrotransactions rather than microtransactions though.

[@mas8705]

To everyone who thought Sterling wasn’t going to cover this after last week (for whatever bizarre reason), just remember: Monday is always coming.

[@tessabakker662]

And it don't stop comin' and it don't stop comin'...

[@joefawley9264]

I hope they cover the impy awards

[@Uhcip]

Were the Sony abuse allegations covered already? That one was sounding a lot like Activision.

[@TheDeceptiveHero]

Guilty as charged.

[@Elwaves2925]

It's not so much that JSS wasn't going to cover this, it was more of a curiousity as to why it wasn't last week. But then it could have been too late to make the video, when last week's was already set to go. It was only ever going to be a matter of time before it was covered.

[@bloodmoon0746]

Enjoy the game "even without micro-transactions" accidentally admits that they mainly want the game to be enjoyed with micro-transactions in mind, and enjoying the game without is barely considered.

[@varunojar5602]

Thank you for your continued anti-capitalist coverage of the games industry.

[@alexsmith2910]

Thank God for them!

[@lordsysop]

Yeh there is enough capitalism in the reak world we don't need our escape from reality/r&r time reminding us how we are being robbed/treated like Muppets. It doesn't help when the majority of gamers are willing to sell their ethics for their latest Fifa reskin

[@sluttyMapleSyrup]

@@lordsysop Yeah, we play games to *not* work. Stop making my time off of work feel like work.

[@valletas]

@@sluttyMapleSyrup i dont think thats the problem Like there are lots of people who get of work only to play euro truck or farm simulator or something like that Its not that people dont want to work in video games its that they dont want to be *forced* to work in them

[@dosbilliam]

@@valletas That might be the way those people relax; I'm one of those people since MMOs are one of the genres I spend the most time in, and they're the genre most often charged with the "second job" classification...which is generally the wrong way to play them, since if you're playing something because you feel you NEED to instead of because you WANT to, you'll burn out pretty fast. This is why I'm playing a heavily-modded New Vegas right now instead of worrying about the time I'm not spending in Destiny 2 or something. :P

[@PookaBot]

They did get away with it. They'll roll this stuff back a little, but ultimately they're normalizing higher prices than before and will probably be treated like heroes for "listening to the fans"

[@MichaelPohoreski]

Typical: Problem. Reaction. “Solution.” Other industries do this bullshit too: Charge double. Offer 50% off. What a deal! The stupid console fan boys defending this blatant greed of double dipping is half of the problem.

[@keithgibb7960]

Spot on. That’s exactly what they’re doing. Pushing the boundaries then stepping back a little so consumers think they’ve been listened to. What they’re really trying to do is make it acceptable for in-game purchases to be at a level where they are no longer “micro” transactions. “Macro” transactions here we come. Thanks Sony.

[@MichaelPohoreski]

@@keithgibb7960 Another name for this _"Boiling the frog"_ aka: 1. A far reaching change is made 2. With the blowback they back off a little, but never fully. "See we're appeasing the fans" is the excuse. 3. Wait for the shock to die down. 4. Repeat step 1.

[@christiandauz3742]

Behead Gaming CEOs and their families!

[@MarkSmee]

Bad enough we’re getting absolutely done over from every direction in real life. I have a hard enough time trying to understand why petrol and electricity suddenly has to be twice the price. Nevermind stuff like this where the value is literally completely arbitrary. Can’t they just stop. They haven’t got a clue. Not a clue.

[@Barcodez5555]

we've been done over since the beginning of history... "the only thing to defeat power is more power"

[@tracytron7162]

They've got every clue. The cruelty is the point.

[@Bugonchair]

Well as long as money is valued higher than human life, we're at least going to have predatory microtransactions and high gas prices. I've seen plenty of theories about why gas prices are so high, and from an economics perspective they all make a fair amount of sense until you ask "why can't oil companies just make less money?"

[@Eon2641]

How much could a digital car cost, Michael? Forty dollars?

[@gemain609]

@@Barcodez5555 Nah since Western Europe went "profit seeking behavior is worth doing genocide for". We've been fucked since then

[@hotlikewasabi25]

I miss the days of games being games. 100% complete, no updates, no microtransactions.

[@Slann88]

It was a pleasure to meet you in person this weekend gone! What an absolute sweetheart you are :)

[@OneWingedRose]

You met a talking car?! :O

[@peterclarke7240]

Yes. Why? Haven't you? 🤔

[@Slann88]

@@OneWingedRose sure did! They were amazingly sweet and nice :)

[@barelylucid]

The level of BS in this industry is truly staggering. Thanks Steph for repeating it over and over and over again.

[@Tarkov.]

I knew things were bad when the first thing I heard about the game was that people were using scripts on their PC's to remotely autoplay races while they slept/worked so they wouldn't have to actually play the game or pay for credits.

[@mikoto7693]

At this point I think that’s a great idea.

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

I love GT and the older games were certainly grindy... this just took it to an unreasonable level for real. Like, I used the AI driver to get through the 24 hour races in Gran Turismo 4 because I wanted that shiny 100%, I didn't leave the game running while I played shit I actually WANTED to play.

[@collin1240]

I wonder how much doing that adds to their electricity bills?

[@RobotMasterSplash]

@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN Older GT isn't grindy unless you hyperfixate on end game cars, which is unhealthy in any game and how many people ruin their own experiences. Otherwise it's just how the progression works, you buy car, win prizes, spend prizes to upgrade car, win bigger prizes, buy new car to win even larger prizes and then upgrade that, repeat until completion. GT4 is the best one because they did such a fantastic job of balancing this, the second they accepted microtransactions it became impossible to get even close to that.

[@TasteTheRainbow346]

@@collin1240 less then paying for the shitty microtransactions and that money goes to keeping the lights on rather than Sony's shitty business practice with GT7.

[@Kimihro]

I wish there were some sort of mechanism that would give laws the ability to catch up to technology, because these rugpulls should be absolutely illegal.

[@mjc0961]

For starters, we could do with upper age limits for elected officials. If it's okay to say you can be "too young" to be elected, then it's okay to say you can be "too old" to be elected. That should get rid of all the ancient old fogeys who don't even know what technology is and bring in some younger blood who's paying attention to these issues and will hopefully try to do something. Second thing to do would be to find some way to get rid of all this "lobbying" and "campaign contributing" AKA bribes.

[@magnuscritikaleak5045]

@@mjc0961 by having a Fascist Revolutionary state. Just kidding Marxist State will solve this by sending old people to Gulags.

[@christianstonecipher1547]

3:54 "We're talking $40 for the top tier cars", I think you missed a 0 there, at 3:44 the screen showed a car priced at 20,000,000 cr which would take 10 of the $20 dollar macro-transactions thus meaning that a single car can cost $200. And after looking into it further, that price tag is seen in the "legend car dealership" in-game where the cars are only available for a limited time(admittedly with a rotating stock, 5 cars out of 70 are available at a time, changing some of the cars out once a day, meaning it could be months before you see the car you want again). Furthermore, this max price tag of 20,000,000 cr is also the wallet cap meaning that you can't really just save your money to ensure that you can get any cars that strike your fancy while also using your currency for anything else except the amount that you could easily get within a couple of days.

[@Elwaves2925]

I just said under another comment that I thought the highest priced car was $200, so thanks for confirming I was right.

[@akmal94ibrahim]

The credit you can keep is capped at 20mil, but the credit that you buy with real money does not have a cap. So obvious what they're tryinh to pull here.

[@jonathangarmuth8975]

And the cost of parts and tires is ridiculously unrealistic in a game they claim the prices need to reflect real life. IT'S A GAME

[@radioactivetrees9626]

They increased the cap to 100m

[@nickwilliams6621]

Credit payouts are going to be increased by 100% bud. Even moreso in other races. More cars are in-coming and more events like 24hr races. Seriously, people need to read the upcoming patch notes.

[@MGlBlaze]

I figured you might talk about this, it has "James Stephanie Sterling has been talking about always-online DRM and microtransactions fucking over players for years" written all over it. And I think a direct quote from you was "If you expect me to always be online, you better fucking always be online too."

[@autobotstarscream765]

Hence why Jim Stephing Sterling, son, is going with Game Pass instead of this 7-car pileup.

[@Vyruz64]

As soon as I saw the GT7 headlines, I was like "ooooh, Steph is gonna be all over this one".

[@kimberleylauren9411]

I fucking don't know where I'd be without this channel. Spending some time feeling pissy about the game industry is actually a welcome respite from my life these days lmao

[@ramenbomberdeluxe4958]

Scam Turismo sounds like a fine-ass supervillain name, my dude!

[@GrahamChapman]

Well, it IS a supervillain. Just not a fine-ass one.

[@solblackguy]

I love how these greed monger levels of player base milking can be implemented with a flick of a switch, but when it comes to removing it, they want to casually walk it back, intentionally finding a satisfying level of manipulation that won't generate player backlash anymore. This is the future of game development: Put out something extremely manipulative, then walk it back to accessible levels and James Stephanie Sterling predicted it over a decade ago.

[@Nov-5062]

when I saw the thumbnail I was worried. I begged, I pleaded for Jim Stephanie Sterling to not be a car with eyes, and yet Jim Stephanie Sterling was a car with eyes.

[@NemXX2]

GT7 could have been the return to glory of the series. They lost me at "Always online required for the single player campaign". they have lost me forever now that i have learned they added predatory practices on top of it.

[@Wir3dGuy]

If they want GT car prices linked with the real world, does this mean I can walk into my local car dealer and get a car for £40? Does GT7 count for online price matching?

[@flossimoth]

LOL if only

[@radioactivetrees9626]

I understand your frustration but your analogy doesn't work here.

[@simulacradigital]

Lol not quite - but in-game ‘Credits’ in Gran Turismo are basically indexed to the Japanese Yen. Prize winnings are arbitrary, but prices for cars, upgrades and parts are historically (don’t own GT7) pretty grounded in real-world Japanese market prices. Obviously though the Real Currency > GT Credits exchange rate sucks pretty hard rn though - but the Credits economy generally does make sense once your past that paywall.

[@akmal94ibrahim]

This is one of the reasons why I wait at least a month after launch before I buy a game. I was considering buying GT7, and I never even thought about the microtransaction being egregious since it's a PS exclusive. My worry was just the always online feature and the lack of tracks. Glad I haven't bought it.

[@MichaelPohoreski]

GT7 == GTS2 with less content and more price gouging.

[@seazonegranec]

I now want a reboot of Christine but with Stephanie's car form. In fact, I need it.

[@chymos6628]

Christine, but less murder and more yelling at video games.

[@TheLivingSeven]

"We [...] would like to try to avoid a situation where a player must mechanically keep replaying certain events over and over again." My brother in christ you made the mechanics.

[@Flargenyargen]

Gran Turismo 7 was going to sell me a PS5. I was really excited for it. Then they announced the always online requirement. That's a massive red flag in a single player simulation racing game. I stopped paying attention to it at that point. I absolutely did not expect them to drive the series into the ground like this. Never again.

[@akmal94ibrahim]

Same. I was considering buying GT7 but my issue with it was the always online requirement and the lack of track. So, I held off from buying. Never even thought about it being riddled with microtransaction since it's a PS exclusive and I assumed, like every other PS exclusive, it's not gonna have these shitty microtransactions.

[@johnmickey5017]

Same, this was one I was holding out for but F this. Got a series x w Forza on gamepass and I’m happy as a clam.

[@autobotstarscream765]

"Always online" = just get Game Pass because you're renting your game anyway. Hopefully Project Spartacus can help fix this overglorified mobile game.

[@wonkothesane1795]

Same! I haven't owned a console in years, but figured what the hell, maybe I'd try one again. Thankfully Elden Ring came out first and I completely forgot about GT7. Now I will not be buying a console, likely ever again.

[@johnmickey5017]

@@autobotstarscream765 and so what? I never go back to prior racing games and I have stuff to play that I never would have paid for straight. I’ll just cancel if I don’t use it for a month, and if I want the game 3 years down the line it’ll be on sale for $10 or whatever.

[@feieralarm]

In all fairness, Gran Turismo has always been extremely grindy. I still remember doing the same race over and over again for days in GT3, just to get enough credits for some of the expensive cars. But that doesn't change that it was extremely scummy from Sony how micro-transactions were introduced in GT7. Especially halving the payout after races with the same update is just shady as hell.

[@christiankettlewell]

Car Sterling is an oddly calming presence.

[@poropuri]

you see, GT has always been grindy (especially 4 and 5), I can't begin to tell how many hours/days I lost playing the same race with the fastest car possible in theses games, all GT fans know this experience, but, this time on top of common predatory practices of the industry, they tried to exploit the fact that fans already know it has always been grindy and kinda expect it to be, made it the grindiest it has ever been by a looooooooooooong margin and decided to be just evil. they introduced the microtransactions in GT Sport and a lot of people made the same old excuses for it, but everyone else was rightfully worried because we all knew this was going to be the next step, at first they only put a finger, some publishers have the "decency" (lol, I didn't have a better word) to do it progressivelly, but PD went from a finger right to a whole buff arm like it was nothing.

[@dbfzato-1327]

Next step free to play live service lol

[@AceStrife]

I was going to comment how it's unbelievable this keeps happening, over and over and over, about how every company seems to be living in its own bubble (which some probably are, especially when it comes to PC game ports), but then the last part of the video played. They really do keep doing this on purpose, don't they?

[@KSignalEingang]

Yup. Even if they have to walk it back *this* time, they're still making the exploitation seem that much more normal and/or inevitable. Yesterday's outrageous cash grab becomes tomorrow's reasonable fallback position next time they get called out.

[@MrSoopSA]

They will push MTX nonsense as hard as they can, then roll it back as little as possible. The goal is to permanently introduce these MTX concepts, regardless as to if they immediately increase revenue or not.

[@capybaradelivery]

As someone who used to love this franchise, thank you for tearing this terrible game and its terrible practices to shreds.

[@fruitshuit]

"I do think its important for it to be linked with the real world prices". I used to wonder what it would be like to meet extraterrestrials who had a completely incomprehensible, alien morality. I didn't expect I'd find out like this.

[@Elwaves2925]

If that's what they saw, you could understand why they'd want to wipe us out.

[@collin1240]

lol. That stood out to me as well. "I can't afford to buy this high-end car in real life, but at least in my game..."

[@jonathangarmuth8975]

Air filter in real life are not 10,000 dollars

[@JohnDuthie]

Why do people put up with microtransactions in games that cost so much upfront? I hate how publishers have pushed the free-to-play model into full-price games. You're damn right about everything in this video and I hope someone comes in with a better alternative to GT.

[@autobotstarscream765]

Jim plays Game Pass, so maybe ask about Forza?

[@Good_Horsey]

Sad to see one of my favorite game series ending up featured on the Jimquisition, but it deserves it.

[@jonathanlewis82]

I fully support anyone running bots or scripts to grind the game for them when they are afk. That's how the designers apparently want the game to be played, by robots with endless time. Good job :thumbsup:

[@collin1240]

I enjoy racing games. However, having seen what they are pulling with this one, I would pass on it if it was their free game of the month. Thank you for your unwavering light shining on the dickery of this industry.

[@cosmosofinfinity]

It's bad even for F2P standards

[@Fenrir1]

"A" is an exponent relating to just how much you will be screwed over by a title.

[@bruceluiz]

Another push for me to repair my old PS2 and play microtransaction-free Gran Turismo, if I ever get in the mood for Racing.

[@ihave7sacks]

PS3 era racing is the sweet spot. Nice graphics / sounds and no micro transactions needed.

[@Relugus]

@@ihave7sacks And you can drive a moon buggy and do Go Karting in GT6, which also had some great free DLC (Senna, Relay, Track Editor), and buying cars was pretty straightforward.

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

I just wish my damn N64 would work :/

[@raycearcher5794]

Remember back in the day where you unlocked stuff by accomplishing a goal in the game? Like in Extreme G you got Roach by beating the game and Neon by beating the hardest circuit in all firsts? Or Goldeneye, where you had to speedrun levels to get the cheats and trying to do it also taught you a bunch of cool stuff about how to play the game more efficiently which made you better at multiplayer?

[@autobotstarscream765]

And this is why retro games are selling for as much or more as new games, because there's more game there.

[@secretbunnyninja]

Played the roughly 20 hrs of content the game had to offer. Ended up with about 1m in profit of credits after hundreds of races with thousands of laps. Pretty much used the same 3 cars for the vast majority of the races, as most of them are restricted to brand of car, performance points, and / or 4WD / region the car was produced. Gotta say this was after purchasing the digital deluxe version with 1.5m credits thrown in. The other REALLY scammy thing is that the progression in this game is locked behind collecting certain cars, most of which are available for purchase. There are some really difficult races, I just cracked on and bought the car which allows you to skip the underlying race. It is cute that they say the cars are linked to real life prices, but the rewards for the races aren't in line with how much professional teams would have earned from winning said races. In most other Gran Turismo games you get an AI racer mode that can basically level up and do endurance races for you while you do something else and could win millions of credits. In other Gran Turismo games you would get 6 different licenses, each one unlocking other content. I nearly did a spit take when the game abruptly just ENDS after getting only 3 of the licenses. Unlocking the other 3, doesn't add any other content. VERY sad. I review bombed it myself.

[@nickwilliams6621]

What races are you doing mate? I make almost 750K an hour. European Championship literally takes 20mins to complete and gives you 150K. Not only that, but Trial Mountain Cup [2 races, 2 laps] is 100K every 9mins or so lmao.

[@DavyJonesSimRacing]

"Because Chocbo GP is fuuucckking shiiiiittt" made my day 😁

[@TheThagarus87]

I was definitely not prepared enough for that. Well done!

[@Balasca]

GT 1 and 2 had the perfect balance. You had to really decide what you wanted to do, buy those sport tyres now or save up for the racing ones. It never took long to save up money but it take take some work and good driving. I don't mind a little bit of a grind, to feel like I earned it, but I just can't be bothered to actually try to get any one car in a racing game like this any more.

[@kallemetsahalme5701]

yea its a hard topic to gauge. because for sure there are lot of people whose idea of grinding is "any is too much" and their solution would be to make all cars free or purchaseable after just 1 race. while most players think some grind is important to make you do choices and race like an actual money prize driver. but what is "some". the dev comment is bs though because he implies that paying for cards with credit card makes more sense than racing and earning card

[@vycanismelodis]

i feel bad for the developers that put so much passion into the game then getting screwed over by publishers

[@MetallicDeviant]

Remember when codes used to be in video games? Stuff to skip the grind that was included in the game for free. But back in the day; the grind was just playing a game to unlock all the characters, items, songs, etc that was already on the disc. Just pop in a code and bam; all things unlocked. Nowadays; we are told we have to pay developers for even the most basic of game functions and mechanics to function *better*. Or spend a ridiculously high amount for additional characters, etc. And that's not even including season passes, login bonuses, etc. Thank you for your reporting and keep up the fantastic work.

[@DavidRichardson153]

Well, every gaming corporation is bound to have their own Battlefront 2 at some point, backlash and backpedal and all. I suppose in Sony's case, it's with Gran Turismo 7.

[@PetarBladeStrok]

there's actually cars in GT7 which straight up cost 200 million credits. Which is about 200$. Yes, individual cars. lol

[@Akapaco2]

That's insane!! Do they not realize that they're literally pushing their fanbase over to their competitors??

[@davidroddie7600]

I loved Gran Turismo. When it first came out years ago, I played it until my eyes bleed. Now the MacroTransactions are in it and as a result, I refuse to purchase the game. I am so sick of games being destroyed by this garbage. It's getting to the point where I am only playing older games. Anything new on the market is nothing more than under developed game and over developed in-game shops.

[@sangieredwolf]

What's funny is the first Gran Turismo was released incomplete. It's impossible to beat the game. The series never had any moral footing.

[@zensoredparagonbytes3985]

@@sangieredwolf what do you mean incomplete? I know it had a random championships generator which makes the game practially endless. All games should have that but then few people would've bought the next iterations. Maybe you mean the second GT which was rushed out to be released. That's why the western copies had so many spelling mistakes.

[@elnombre91]

That chewits advert was a glorious piece of throwback nostalgia, thank you 🙌

[@autobotstarscream765]

Reject GT7, return to Chews 🦖

[@LolliDepp]

Oh God I've been playing this and I already know before watching this is going to make me cry :( My poor GT7, look at the state it's in :(

[@rory90FiVe]

Look how they massacred my boy

[@nobodyinparticular9640]

This was me but with Chocobo GP, sigh...

[@nickwilliams6621]

They're bringing out more cars, increased number of cars shown in the Legendary Dealerships/Used Car Dealerships, credits are going up by 100%, money cap is increasing to 100mil and there are going to be more races, including 24hr races. *SuperGT* literally went through it all in one of his videos lol. I can't believe people still can't get over the microtransactions. Like, holy crap. Farm Championships like you did in the previous titles before Seasonal Events were a thing.

[@DavidGarcia-oi5nt]

I was absolutely waiting for this one!! As a sim racer I am very aware of how they fucked up this cash cow.

[@nickwilliams6621]

This is a chash cow? LMFAO! Look at GTA V: Online or Warframe mate lol. If you read through the patch-notes, you would discover that events are being given a 100% increase in an upcoming update. Some events even moreso. Not only that, but Endurance Races are going to be added to the Missions, more cars and the credit cap [which has happened already] is being set to 100mil.

[@2020-p2z]

wadiyatalkinabeet

[@arkham666]

$70 for the game, $40 for one car. Well done devaluing all the work gone into the base game.

[@megacide84]

At that point...The whole thing should have been a "Free-to-Pay" suckfest from the beginning.

[@Elwaves2925]

$40 for one car and it's not even the most expensive car from what I've read. I believe that stands at $200 because of the credit packs you are stuck buying.

[@vsm1456]

@@Elwaves2925 Yes, $40 in MTX is 4 million credits, and some cars go up to 20 million.

[@Elwaves2925]

@@vsm1456 Cheers for the confirmation and that is truly ridiculous at $40. At $200 it's so far beyond that words can't describe it.

[@darkrage1138]

I just want to point out, they are basically telling us to wait until early april for hypothetically large increases in race payouts, when it took them about a day to nerf them when people realized what races made good money. In other words, they have the capability to rapidly change race payouts, they are making us wait until april in the hopes that people will partake in the microtransaction dependent used car dealership until then. If a car shows up in the used car / legendary dealership you want, you're extremely encouraged to grind very hard or to partake in microtransactions. This is extremely true due to the extremely slow rotating nature of the used car dealership unlike GT5. In GT5 you could miss a car in the dealership and reasonably expect to see it again fairly soon since it refreshed constantly. in GT7 the used car dealership rotates so slowly it may literally be a year before a certain car shows up depending on how poly runs it. That and GT5 used car dealer was literally random, everyone just saw new cars each day. GT7 the dealership is poly-controlled, and has hiked up prices, meaning poly can artificially make a car more rare and costly for no reason other than to encourage microtransactions.

[@evileyevirtue]

Always on point. Fuck capitalism. And thank God for Jim Stephanie Sterling.

[@IgN5P]

Yes. But you see, they put a lot of effort into justifying shit like this, and fending off criticism. Since very few are capable of being this despicable, their income is justified.

[@CommentFrom]

Capitalism is good. Just not when it's out to do stuff like this.

[@evileyevirtue]

@@CommentFrom this IS what capitalism is out to do. There's no difference, there's no such thing as "bad" capitalism. This is the logical end result of capitalism.

[@CommentFrom]

@@evileyevirtue shit better use communism then?

[@nathanielchieffallo4273]

@@CommentFrom shit better use a straw man then?

[@starkravingmad31]

It's crazy since most all Sony exclusives are completely devoid of these scammy practices. God of War, Horizon, Spiderman, Last of Us, Ghost of Tsushima, Demon's Souls. All great complete experiences, no microtransactions.

[@repulser93]

Don’t give them ideas.

[@starkravingmad31]

@@repulser93 What gives them ideas is people buying the shit games like GT7. If their non-shit games are more successful, then they'll be incentivized to make more of those.

[@repulser93]

@@starkravingmad31 Its also possible that they'll try to find a way to strap microtransactions to those good games, too.

[@GaldirEonai]

The Cars bit is hands down the most cursed bit ever done in a JimQ video. I am genuinely awestruck.

[@taekinuru2]

It’s no cornflakes homunculus, but it’s up there

[@glitchedoom]

Worse than Pog Fucker?

[@CaptainZlex]

James Stephanie Sterling is one of the few who relentlessly tells it like it is and I love that about them.

[@Kerosyn]

"$40 for the top tier cars" it's $20 for 2,000,000 cr. there are cars in the game that cost over *90,000,000 cr*. one of them was shown in the footage for a second. anyone who didn't catch that, let that sink in. as a bonus, the initial cap of 20,000,000 non-purchased credits for players made multiple cars in the game literally impossible to obtain without buying credits edit: was wrong about this but learned something else instead. the 90,000,000+ cr cars are in the japanese version which has its own separate pricing for things, including the microtransactions. in the US, $20 gets you 2,000,000, but in japan, it gets you 200,000,000. so a 20,000,000 cr car in the US costs $200 while in japan it's more like $9 - 90,000,000 cr.

[@evacuationplan_B]

There's not any that are 90mil credits.

[@fix0the0spade]

@@evacuationplan_B Whilst the exact numbers anre't correct, there's at least one car that's 27 million credits, which makes it impossible to buy for 'free' at the moment. It also makes some of the cars north of $200 each in real money, which is insane.

[@Kerosyn]

@@evacuationplan_B 4:05 in the video, legend cars dealership. only five cars at a time show up there and their prices are supposedly dynamic somehow. if you have the game, maybe you just haven't seen any yet. maybe I _am_ wrong, in which case, great edit: turns out I am wrong, those credit amounts in the footage are specific to the japanese version of the game. however this led to a new discovery, that the same ~$20 package of credits nets you 200,000,000 in japan compared to 2,000,000 everywhere else, so a 20,000,000 cr car in the US still costs $200 but the same car in japan costs more like $9.

[@evacuationplan_B]

@@Kerosyn wow that's fucked. Don't get me wrong it's scummy but I've yet to see any cars that were outside the cap that would require a mtx which is a significantly worse crime than grind pushing and just straight p2w because some care like that will be the meta in some race at some point.

[@evacuationplan_B]

@@fix0the0spade I haven't seen anything pop up in legends outside the max... Is that from mined data?

[@DaWrecka]

"fiscally malicious" is now my favourite way to describe the Tories.

[@tensevo]

they are all owned by devil worshipping WEF

[@gabrielrussell5531]

Car Sterling will haunt my nightmares.

[@mas8705]

Cactuar Sterling still lives rent free in many people’s lives.

[@hurricanexanax]

In addition to faster progression and no MTX, review copies of GT7 also didn't have the always online requirement. Most reviewers with early copies did not disclose this, even though Sony had said weeks in advance that it would be part of the game

[@autobotstarscream765]

Review Copy Edition GT7 sounds like the game Sony needs to both get a W against Forza and Game Pass, and convince people that their $1,000 air purifier has exclusive games making it worth the customer's valuable time and money.

[@mittensfastpaw]

I knew this video was coming. The industry always gets worse.

[@nO_d3N1AL]

On the one hand, Forza's issue is that cars are given out so readily that none of them feel special or earned. On the other, selling a £60 game and charging half that for a single car is a pisstake. They should either make it free to play and charge reasonable prices for cars, or make it feasible to grind for them through natural play, without handing them out like candy as Forza does

[@kyoshifrostwolf]

That makes little sense because Forza has so many vehicles now all detailed to perfection. Personally I love that building a collection isnt an endless grind because it always gives me something new to try. That should be the point. Forza does it right.

[@rolfs2165]

Assuming the screenshots with credit prices (3:07) and the cars (3:38) were taken at the same time and there haven't been any market "adjustments" between them, that Barker Tourer costs TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS! You can get a good physical model for that price. A model that you'll still have and be able to look at in decades, when GT7's servers have long since been turned off.

[@nickwilliams6621]

Credit rewards are being increased by 100% with some races even moreso. People need to read through the patch like *Super GT* did. Also, you don't need any of those cars as there is no incentive to completing the *car collection* other than having more cars for Photo Mode and flexing rights. You don't even need the 12,500,000cr Jaguar XJ13 to get the *Three Legendary Cars* trophy lol. The microtransactions are unnecessary, and are there for the impatient whales out there; Not for proper GT fans.

[@rolfs2165]

@@nickwilliams6621 That's nice and all, but you completely missed the point. Which is that GT7 is ASKING 200 DOLLARS for a virtual car model. The studio even just _thinking_ that's an appropriate price is absolutely insane.

[@Moonjabii]

When you win your measly 5000 credits from the roulette gacha mechanic it asks you if you would like to "top up" your total credits via microtransactions. I cringe every time.

[@shenanitims4006]

God it sucks. I remember having so much fun back in the days of Gran Turismo 1 & 2 when it was about racing cars. Upgrading them, and racing them some more. “We wanted people to understand the car’s real life value, so we designed the game so that only the people ultra-rich in real life can afford the digital cars they already own in real life.” Has anyone run the numbers to see what the “full” game would actually cost? (As in the game with all the cars available?)

[@wonkothesane1795]

Found a spreadsheet of all the cars that totaled up to around 300 million cr. At $2 million cr/$20 USD, that's roughly $3000 actual money dollars to own the full game. And I found an estimate of about 100 million cr for all the upgrades, so add another $1000 or so to upgrade all the cars. $4000. So, you could buy a video game with cars in it, or an actual car. Your choice.

[@kallemetsahalme5701]

though honestly you cant buy any real car with 4000. so actually this game is a bargain and in gt8 they should actually try selling aston martin for 200k and bmw for 50k. as a bonus option you could buy a junkyard car for 200 bucks but it might not even start at the starting line

[@shenanitims4006]

@@kallemetsahalme5701 For $4000 down, you could make a dent in a real car’s price. And have an actual car. Rather than spending $4000 on something with no actual value.

[@Doodlesthegreat]

I like how the headline early on is how they gave a mil in fake funds to everyone, when you can see that barely gets you a mid-tier vehicle.

[@coffee6058]

These transformed openings are always a special treat XD

[@ChristopherMcLarenExperience]

2:06 I remember this advert.

[@RollingThunder911]

Holy cow that car Sterling was legit the cursed thing i have seen this week and it's only Monday 🙃

[@jamesrule1338]

The eyes... they haunt me...

[@executioner_ecgbert884]

How you ever seen the sterling cactus?

[@executioner_ecgbert884]

*have*

[@resileaf9501]

Car Sterling will haunt my nightmares and I will fear seeing them at the foot of my bed for at least a week.

[@shesawitch3581]

@@executioner_ecgbert884 Or lobster Sterling?

[@DigiFox0]

Remember Horse Armour? Remember when *that* was the worst DLC ever produced? Like the utter absurdity of charging 5 quid for armour for your fucking horse in Oblivion. How did we all go from decrying that to publishers thinking it's OK to charge 40 us American dollars for a fucking virtual car?

[@Navie.]

i was waiting for this

[@masterbasher9542]

... I'd make a joke on how Xty years ago, "Sports games are dead" because of MTX overload. Now, we're in 202X: And Racing games are "dead" by MTX transactions.

[@Horizontalvertigo]

You were waiting for James Stephanie Sterling to turn into a car?

[@MillywiggZ]

You’re the Twitter guy aren’t you?

[@midnightxsquid4117]

'angry they/them yells at cars'

[@uhobme2028]

At the time, I just knew Nitro-fuelled set a precedent "AAA" gaming would gladly follow. As if the incentives to buy at launch weren't few enough already.

[@gratianray2]

5:07 and game companies and publishers want people to believe the NFT push was about giving people 'real' ownership of digital items when they aren't even willing to do the bare minimum and let you resell ingame only digital items back into digital credits, yeah, game companies really care about you or me "owning" anything, it's as if they spit in everyone's faces all the time and then they come out with a plastic face shield to sell you and want to be praised for it. The real solution is to not let them spit in your face

[@javierortiz82]

What I love about this is that now, with Microsoft having all the money in the world unlike Sony, all they have to do to make the next Forza Motorsport an instant hit is to deliver it on gamepass day one with improved rewards systems and a more rewarding gameplay loop and maybe some ray traced reflections on top, but they can also, of course, just leave it the way it is, which is still better. Sony asked for it, this is not new, this problem comes from the days of GT6 on the PS3, the system has only become greedier and greedier with each new iteration.

[@tehPete]

Turn10 need to parody the 'Official PlayStation Used Game Instructional Video' with something like the 'Official Forza Single Player Offline Mode Instructional Video'. Instant win.

[@javierortiz82]

@@tehPete omg I just saw this playing on my head, golden lmao.

[@autobotstarscream765]

It's like they _designed_ GT 7 to get destroyed by Forza and Game Pass on every point.

[@Hornswroggle]

I want to pick out another one of Kazunori Yamauchi's sentences here: 8:58 "I would like to have users enjoy lots of cars and races *even without microtransactions* " To me this proves that this "game" is not designed to be played but to be *spent on* (like a mobile game knockoff) He expects people to SPEND on MTX first and foremost - and *THEN* he'd "like to have users enjoy lots of cars and races *even without microtransactions* " ON TOP of that (for good looks... I guess)

[@jonathangarmuth8975]

It's essentially "We will be preying on our customers while letting them race, even in cars sometimes"

[@nickwilliams6621]

Race-rewards are getting an increase of 100% in an upcoming update with some singe race events being given an increase of up to 200% -.- Not only that, but the ability to sell your car, more cars, more cars showing up in the Legendary/Used car dealerships at 1 time, Online races being given a huge credit increase, etc. *SuperGT* made a video on the patch notes -.- Buuuut, people are still focused on the microtransactions because they don't know how to farm properly and have no idea what a Championship is lol

[@ProjectTony]

Truly the persona 1 of car games when it comes to grinding.

[@JohnDuthie]

Why is the Metascore so high? Have the ""official" reviewers decided not to adjust their critique in response to the deceitful embargo tactics? Metacritic gives GT an 87 Metascore while the User score is only 1.7. Does Metascore change over time or does it become a static number once it scrapes the first batch of reviews?

[@jonathangarmuth8975]

Sony paid good money for those reviews, you can't just take them down because of some minor customer manipulation tactic!

[@sandvich87]

I always thought the cars eyes should be on the headlights not the windscreen :(

[@ramenbomberdeluxe4958]

Ehhh, I can see it both ways. The eyes make sense as they’re on the windows, the things you use to see through. The lights only further aid in seeing ahead of you and would support the eyes.

[@Horizontalvertigo]

Yeah but then you have all that dead space on the windscreen, and then people will ask, "does that mean you can still get in and drive it? Does that mean it's eating you?"

[@sandvich87]

@@Horizontalvertigo @ramenbomberdeluxe ngl i havent thought about logistics just think it'd look nicer

[@SolidBobert]

How did they not realize the direct parallels between "the pricing of cars is an important element that conveys their value and rarity" and "The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes." What were they thinking?

[@piffling2238]

It's unforgivable how they made the decision to have journalist review a different game. They knew what they were doing and getting away with it. How can we trust any day one review in the future?

[@raverdeath100]

you can't.

[@DianaCHewitt]

All we can do is refuse to buy games on day one.

[@collin1240]

iirc Nintendo/Square-Enix did the same thing with 'Chocobo Racing GP', and I don't think they were the first to do that either. It's becoming a standard play in the AAA books. It's at the point now where I just wait on any new games to see what happens post-launch. I have lots of games that didn't jerk me around that I can play in the meantime, and in most cases the prices of the new games will only go down.

[@johnhughthom]

Even putting that aspect aside, gaming reviews are bollocks.

[@piffling2238]

@@collin1240 Put credit where credit is due. I doubt Nintendo had anything to do with Chocobo's monetization,. Let put that on Square-Enix. Nintendo can be blamed for Mario Kart Tour.

[@scottthewaterwarrior]

Most games have at least _some_ level of grind, but if they want me to believe that is just intended to be part of the experience, then there shouldn't be any way to skip the grind! Though for my, online only is a bigger issue. I'm expected to be always online, but their servers...?