Is It Possible That You're Still Drunk? | The Crown (Claire Foy, Vanessa Kirby)

[@xquisite7791]

The way Princess Margaret drags Philip's whole family for filth and then tosses in a casual, off-handed "How is he?" 🤣 All hail the Queen of Shade!

[@Ravenclawjournalist]

That line always makes me laugh.

[@retroguy9494]

Maggie didn't like the hypocrisy!

[@bricktam]

I was gonna say, as much as I feel for her, I don't think she would've thrived as a housewife to Peter. She enjoyed her privileges too much. Elizabeth, I see her thriving as a military housewife, and she did, I see her taking the out had she been given that chance.@user-tz1zo6nu3n

[@peachygal4153]

Everything she said was true. Except for Alice, her ex-husband had her put away to get rid of her. She was eccentric though, but the poor woman got a raw deal.

[@glen7318]

@@peachygal4153 what are you talking about? Princess Alice had a mental illness, she had to be hospitalised for a time

[@laskmj24]

I love this scene!! Every word Princess Margaret says is dripping with savage passive aggression and it’s perfect!!

[@sarahcorbo3659]

Vanessa Kirby was so mesmerizing and captivating as Princess Margaret. She really knew how to embrace the character and soak up every scene she was in. 👏👏👏

[@ravinp371]

"Is it possible that your still drunk?" It happens to the best of us.

[@weirdshibainu]

Right? It's really bad when someone asks you that in a work meeting....2 hours after lunch

[@lgbtes]

Not w/ me . Quit drink now for 6yrs. 😂😅😂

[@theoriginalkrabbypatty]

“Grain and grape don’t mix”! I’m going to remember that 🤣🤣

[@elisabethhughes6005]

It’s the gods honest truth.

[@briankooker2627]

My Father taught that to me at 17.

[@safespacebear]

Margaret is winning every exchange in this scene until the Queens says "ballerinas". The look on Margaret's face is equal parts shock and a bit of regret. She realizes her sister isn't a clueless about the way of things as she always thought she was

[@Janperday]

‘Winning every exchange’ her sister dearly invited her to lunch and she gets joyful when understanding her and her husband are having rough patches in her marriage… I’d call that pathetic

[@JohnnyBGoode-jm4qp]

@Janperday I’m commenting based on _The_ _Crown_ characters, *not* the actual human beings these actors are portraying. Show!Elizabeth is a condescending *hypocrite.* Don’t get me wrong; Claire Foy’s an exemplary actress. But it’s sort of annoying to see Show!Elizabeth desperately cling to a man who doesn’t love her as much as she loves him, but is cold to everybody else, especially her own children. She’s dug in her heels on her marriage, but doesn’t do the same for her sister, after promising otherwise to her face. Show!Elizabeth made Show!Margaret and Show!Peter wait for nothing. Anybody would’ve been understandably frustrated, and then some. Show!Elizabeth can’t even stand up to Show!TommyLascelles and Show!QueenMother. Despite being oh-so-“empowered” in matters she truly cares about. What Show!Margaret is doing here isn’t nice, true. But can you blame her? She’s no saint.

[@tajniak4335]

Claire Foy was great as young Elizabeth, but Vanessa Kirby stole every scene she was in.

[@rosssandeman6883]

Which was the perfect dynamic between the two sisters

[@wrestlinginfodude2644]

Claire was far better than kirby

[@markc-ru4qz]

Such great actresses. Vanessa just needs a cigarette holder tho, Meg was never without one.

[@balabanasireti]

Nah

[@HK-gm8pe]

dont agree...I think you think that cause you heard queen Elizabeth speak far more often than princess Margaret

[@eurojack44]

“Sinister osteopath” is the best description of a person that I’ve ever heard. Haha.

[@redstar7292]

The Perfumo scandal was very tragic. The " Sinister Osteopath " 6ended up commiting suicide.He was ruined. The only person who came out well in it, was Mandy Rice Davis who left the country & ran a nightclub in spain.

[@Alepoudelis]

I love how margaret gets joyful as she understands that the queen has no connection with her husband

[@bricktam]

I love that she was always the one planting shit in her sister's head. This one, the one where she revealed that Jackie Kennedy was talking shit about her, and the mystery man photo.

[@xquisite7791]

Schadenfreude at its finest!

[@AmandaFromWisconsin]

@@bricktam Why do you love that?

[@jonmunoz2772]

I don't blame her after the way she was treated by the royal family, yes the show is fiction (just in case I get any prince charles incel fanboys) but the royal family is classic example of a narcissistic family.

[@theelitemanticore151]

@@bricktam”You failed to protect me. I will fail to protect you in return. You reap what you sow, sister!” She meant that 😗

[@steven3453]

1:28 I wonder if Vanessa Kirby intended to drop the cigarette, or if she just ran with it because it fits with Margaret being hungover. I think in any other scene that would have been an outtake

[@ColumbiaFrancis]

Vanessa Kirby's makeup is INCREDIBLE!

[@Diamondelle84]

0:54 The maid couldn't care less 🤷‍♀

[@FadzaiSimango]

Love that for her 😂

[@mattmanglos2179]

I love how unapologetic Princess Margaret was. Even with the Queen, she said what was on her mind and that’s so refreshing to see humanity from the monarchy.

[@Ravenclawjournalist]

They stood by one another no matter what. That’s what made them special. Whatever their differences, they were the most loyal of sisters.

[@user-uu5oy2br5e]

I can’t get enough of Vanessa Kirby haha

[@MeyaRoseGirl]

I know the show makes a big deal of how Princess Margaret lost the love of her life because of her cruel royal family, and how it wasn't really possible for her to be happy without Peter, (even Prince Harry mentioned it in Spare,) but I can't help but feel like she never would have been able to make a marriage work even if it HAD been with Peter or someone the establishment found "suitable." She's selfish, snobbish, conceited, and indulgent. Not exactly good traits to have going into a marriage with ANYONE. She had the chance to give up her spot in the line of succession to be with her true love, and even knowing she would never inherit, she chose the Crown. (And to be honest I think it was an empty threat by the stuffy old men. If Margaret decided to just say screw it and eloped with Peter, I doubt Elizabeth would have disinherited her. Or if she did, she would later reinstate her.) But it's just like how the Queen Mother blames all the problems in their family on Edward VIII's abdication. It completely ignores individual accountability and blames all problems on "the establishment." It's the same thing with the next generation. The whole Charles/Camilla/Andrew nightmare that Diana was pulled into is the fault of all of those people, not "the establishment."

[@redstar7292]

I think Peter Townsend would have been a stable and steadying influence. It worked out well, for Princess Anne who is also married to an equerry. They were both divorced. But in the 1950s there was no chance. But then, Margaret wouldnt have had her two children and her grandchildren.

[@peachygal4153]

It was not her spot in line of succession that concerned her, it was the yearly income she received that she would no longer haven if she married Townsend.

[@MsJubjubbird]

@@peachygal4153 she would still have had an income, under the plan drawn up with the PM> I mean they even gave the Duke of Windsor an income

[@glen7318]

@@peachygal4153 taht is not true, She would have retained her title and her royal role and income. She just had to step out of hte succession.

[@andrewbrendan1579]

I noticed how Vanessa Kirby is able to exhale cigarette smoke through her nose. I tried that once many years ago and nearly did myself in!

[@aciobaniteicezar1170]

Not that hard if you're a smoker. I believe every smoker can. I can.

[@user-tt5xj5ib1e]

It's one of the many tricks we learn as smokers before they finally do us in :D 🤔😆🚬

[@aciobaniteicezar1170]

@@user-tt5xj5ib1e true. 🍻

[@show_me_your_kitties]

Lol bless your heart

[@andreabarnes2408]

lol me too 😂

[@adelaferreira4575]

Claire Foy is such a great actress on the Crown and everything else she has film !

[@Jaglvnv]

I can’t tell in this scene if Margaret is trying to mess with the queen or if she is actually trying to help her realize what’s going on

[@lillyess385]

Both

[@gabespiro8902]

I feel sorry for that servant. Her employer tells her she must not be disturbed for any reason and then the Queen calls asking to speak to her Must have been a hell of a dilemma for her

[@show_me_your_kitties]

I thought that as well.

[@bogdancristea9270]

If I had been in a position to have denied my brother or sister the love of their life, I think I would have acted in a slightly less formal and possibly more remorseful way towards them, I wouldn’t just pretend that nothing happened. Of course, one cannot bring that up all the time, but calling your sister for lunch to give her a dressing down because she’s unhappy and drinks might be a dick-ish move.

[@graphiquejack]

the show presents a portrait of Elizabeth that's pretty brutal, tbh... her treatment towards Margaret, and Charles, is frequently cruel. We'll never know if any of this is really accurate, but she seems to get even colder and meaner as the years go on, without any of her charm or warmth.

[@shanouboubou]

I actually liked that they had Elizabeth becoming colder and colder as time passes. That's just the thing, you have to be cold to be Queen or at least that's what she was taught. Though given that she let Charles, Anne and a few of her other children divorce and remarry, it's possible QEII changed her ways later in life.

[@dutoitkotze4812]

“You don’t know that either!” 😂

[@Ravenclawjournalist]

Oh his little Australian

[@Bobby_Pins]

Claire and Vanessa are my favourite Liz and Margo ❤

[@hfjireh]

1:03 the way vanessa is speaking here is so amusing. you can hear how smashed margaret is

[@Ariana-wv4pf]

And the way she says that little "Hm" when asked "Margo?" 😂😂😂😂😂 Perfect acting.

[@branflakes12341]

The queen was abit lonely In this scene

[@suzanne-dy5zc]

Wonderful actress.

[@wardarcade7452]

The irony is that while there were times that the tensions between the Queen and Princess Margaret seemed to strain the bond to the limit, it never broke. Also, I wonder what the 20-something Margaret and Elizabeth would have thought had anyone told them that the Queen and Duke of Edinburgh would stay married for 73 years- AND have their own bond become a deep and abiding love at the close despite all the rocky times they'd endured during the first part of her reign.

[@tylerthompson9822]

Let’s be clear 💁🏾‍♂️the pecking order is John Lithgow as Sir Winston Churchill, Vanessa Kirby as Princess Margaret and THEN everyone else… Vanessa was fantastic as the princess, brilliant performance 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@simonrooney2272]

matt smith was brilliant too

[@shawnastephens1536]

I love Princess Margaret. This scene was awesome.

[@danivarius]

Love the dining room they’re in. Reminiscent of the Georgian Buckingham House from Queen Victoria’s time.

[@smacwhinnie]

Peter Townsend sure dodged a bullet

[@Ariana-wv4pf]

Agreed.

[@michaelclark4062]

Margaret had a point here if elizabeth was allowed to wed philip then she should have been allowed to marry Peter

[@littlemyy2979]

Except that Philip was not married before, so there was no obstacle. Peter was married and his wife was still alive when he met Margaret. There is no such thing as divorce, if your wedding vows include "until death do us part".

[@hkanchor]

⁠@@littlemyy2979The Church of England had some very Dark Age views about divorce back then not sure about now. If Margot was allowed to marry Peter she would have had a much happier life. Her marriage to Tony was a violent domestic hell

[@vincentjames2150]

@@hkanchorthey definitely don’t now considering the new king and queen are both divorcée’s themselves…

[@daesgatling1345]

She would have been allowed, but she would have to give up her benefits and she wasn't about to do that

[@jodiuhron1979]

And then there’s the irony of the Church of England forbidding royals from marrying a divorced person who’s ex is still alive while the Church itself was created so that Henry VIII could end his marriage to Catherine of Aragon.

[@zerocool1ist]

Margaret like your the queen and you done even know where your own husband is.

[@absolutelynoidea69]

Acting at it's finest 😊

[@Sarajourneys431]

After seeing real pics of her, the casting director needs a raise!!!1

[@jonmunoz2772]

Margaret needs to get over not being able to marry Peter Townshend because I know for fact she would ultimately get bored with him.

[@gswgirl87]

Dont get me wrong, I absolutely love Margaret and i understand her being upset about not being allowed to marry the love of her life, however she made the choice to stick with the establishment and keep her spot in line for the throne. Elizabeth had no choice and she should have realized that, the crown comes first and its just that sad of a fact. Her bringing up Phillips family was extremely hurtful considering how much younger he is than his sisters and that he fought for the British side despite his sisters Nazi marriages. I love how Margaret can be direct and to the point but she can also herself be very cruel when she feels she has been slighted.

[@MP-dn4bs]

not as simple as choosing "the establishment" means complete ostracization from your family, as they saw with the Duke of Windsor...and probably being haunted by what you put your family through. could she take being even more distanced from her sister, and quite possibly her mother never talking to her again? same thing with Charles later...

[@nicoleackerman205]

The mom thing was cruel because her going nuts was not her fault.

[@bricktam]

This is exactly why I was on Philip's side during her birthday party meltdown, saying he was tired of her issues and sympathized with Tony. What happened to Margaret was terrible but she did make the choice to stay. All the bad choices she made since then was on her.

[@gerardcollins80]

​@@bricktamNo, actually. Margret is the sympathetic one in that instance. Imagine: you've given up the love of your life to remain loyal to your family and go for somebody else whom you think is alright, but they turn out to be a serial cheater and gaslighter. Not only that, but when you turn to your family for support in your unhappy and failing marriage, they not only dismiss your feelings but actively side with the cheater and don't even acknowledge your distress. The way the Queen Mother tutted when Margret called her out for siding with Tony at her birthday dinner enraged a dark part of me.

[@jujubees5855]

You do realize how they close ranks on people who don't toe the line. If Margaret left, they would have cut her off from the family like her uncle for not having a proper marriage to a cousin of blue blood and social rank. Funny the queen changed the rules for Mummy's little boy so Mummy's little boy could have his divorced trashy mistress as a bride (she showed up at the wedding to Diana in white) and the throne.

[@greentombdive]

Nice one, Margot.

[@sikandermallu]

"Smart Set Margot" got back at "Lily-white Lilibet" and her high-horse moralizing about the company Margaret keeps and her choice of life partners, by subtly reading Elizabeth for filth for her own choice of husband and the even worse company that he keeps. I also love how the writers snuck in the "sinister osteopath" Stephen Ward that would show up at the end of this season. As if to say that Margot may have run with a fast crowd, but she had standards enough to know exactly who in London to avoid. More interesting still, is how the same writers imply that even by getting rid of Mike and his bro-y Thursday Lunch Club, Philip still ended up running into Stephen Ward, innocently enough via a medical referral from his physician.

[@dtblack123]

I prefer Margaret drunk to Elizabeth sober.

[@YusufYusuf-ti2rz]

Memory is correct it was her choice not to marry Peter all. All she would have to do is to give up all her royal titles and place in the line of succession. Otherwise the British government didn’t even care one cent if she married the guy after that.

[@glen7318]

she would not have had to do that. Dont make up nonsense

[@YusufYusuf-ti2rz]

@@glen7318 I’m not just. Telling facts

[@wiki1547]

My marriage will fail if we have servants

[@kristine6996]

Crazy family.

[@fadikhoory5350]

'Not to mention the fact that he was a little old.' And this was a time when age-gap marriages were more common.

[@MariaRiveriaHernandez]

If I woke up hearing that I’d be like ‘wtf mate?’

[@beccamcdonald9846]

I really wish I had a sister like Margaret. A sister to teach me all these nice comebacks that leave 3rd degree burns and make people think twice before they speak 😂😂😂🤣

[@sharroncalundan7794]

Margaret was unhappy her entire life after she could not marry Peter Townsend. Incredibly sad.

[@Ariana-wv4pf]

She could marry him, give up her titles and run into the sunset with him. She just loved the privileges of being a royal princess even more. And she wasn't unhappy. She was just promiscuous and liked smoking and drinking. She had no self-discipline like her sister.

[@Ariana-wv4pf]

She could marry him, give up her titles and run into the sunset with him. She just loved the privileges of being a royal princess even more. And she wasn't unhappy. She was just promiscuous and liked smoking and drinking. She had no self-discipline like her sister.

[@user-uu5oy2br5e]

I so wished they had just aged these actresses with makeup. They did the characters so well

[@l.a.3479]

That wouldn't have worked for the last 2 seasons.

[@Ravenclawjournalist]

I know what you mean but I agree with the director. You can’t teach a young person to be middle aged. They would look older yes but they don’t have the life experience under their belts to act older. Time changes you. It changes us all.

[@flyboy152]

It would have looked bad in seasons 3&4, and ridiculous in the last two. It’s one thing if an actor is on screen for a short time, but not when the show focuses on them.

[@trevormillar1576]

Possible? I'd say it was a racing certainty.

[@rr7firefly]

So it seems that Prince Andrew was steeped in the bawdy traditions of the Royal Family. His outside associations would also become his undoing.

[@thelonewolf1894]

Yes I'm still drunk how did you know?

[@MariaRiveriaHernandez]

These two are exactly my sister and I.

[@TryDiy]

Respect to Margret, booze cigs and men, she was a hardcore raver.

[@suzanamariath8141]

Excelentes.

[@gerardcollins80]

I've noticed that Claire Foy never actually eats her food. She just keeps playing with the cutlery when the camera focuses on her. It's actually pretty annoying.

[@lauraorta4378]

Food is fake friend

[@faithlesshound5621]

If they had six takes for every dining scene she would have put on weight fast, which is fatal for an actress.

[@gerardcollins80]

​@@lauraorta4378 I know that. It's just a nitpick that I've noticed, and it's one of those things that when you notice it, you can't un-notice it.

[@gerardcollins80]

​@@faithlesshound5621 The use of real food on Downton Abbey is one of the things I learned about. Behind the scenes, they talk about their eating of real food during filming. Gotta love such a commitment to detail.

[@marchellabrahams]

The telephone bell is wrong; it sounds American.

[@lachlankay9212]

Neither of us ARE not IS

[@sabrecellist]

Either are correct. I would use 'are' since it's responding to a plural (like I just did with either), but technically both either and neither are singular nouns you can and use singular verbs. (I think using singular was more common historically).

[@barbarastatham100]

Is

[@422hamilton]

yes, it's is and only is. "Neither" behaves as a singular noun.@@barbarastatham100

[@1purapericulo]

Is

[@TheFruitsOfZellman]

Oh it's possible...

[@samanthabryan9730]

Did Queen Elizabeth ever smoke?

[@sarahjones-jf4pr]

"Neither of us is...."(a poor writer) Neither of us are........surprised at the "Queen's" English!.

[@kareno7848]

Netflix is trying to keep Margaret PG and to get audience sympathy. She drank a bottle of whiskey a day and smoked 80 cigarettes. She was a somatic narcissist and changed men every few months. Group Captain something or other was NOT the love of her life (My mother so sympathized with poor Margaret up against "evil" Elizabeth), because she would not give up her title and privileges for him. She loved the limelight, and a few months after she lost him (the divorce was fixed up with the judges, so the wife took the blame), she was having another affair a few months later. She was probably a nymphomaniac as well.

[@simonrooney2272]

have you watched the show? they don't shy away from Margaret's alchoholism, smoking, or hypocrisy

[@Ariana-wv4pf]

She was a raging hedonist. Like her uncle David, like Harry. Good thing none of them got to rule. Monarchy would be dead by now with any of them as a ruling monarch.

[@redstar7292]

I can tell from the pictures at the time Margaret was devasted.

[@Simca33]

Vanessa should stay a brunette. Blonde isn't the best color for the shape of her face.

[@giorgioroyaume8815]

Come faceva a sapere? MI6😁😎

[@racheljennings1688]

Possibly

[@naomirison2493]

😊

[@wwbdwwbd]

A sinister osteopath who knows everyone and arranges gentlemen's weekends with ballerinas... That's sounds like the predecessor of Jeffrey Epstein. The apple indeed doesn't fall far from the tree.

[@SyriusStarMultimedia]

This scene allows the Black man, to rest assured that Diversity, Equity and Inclusion is lunacy and that DEI still stands for Dale Earnhardt Incorporated.