Margaret Asks The Queen Permission to Marry Peter | The Crown (Claire Foy, Vanessa Kirby, Ben Miles)

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8 ай бұрын

At dinner, Margaret (Vanessa Kirby) is anxious and asks the servants to leave the room. She finally tells Elizabeth (Claire Foy) that she and Peter (Ben Miles) want to get married and asks her sister for permission.
From Season 1, Episode 6: Gelignite
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@hothotheat3000
@hothotheat3000 7 ай бұрын
I love that she never gave permission as the sovereign. “AS YOUR SISTER, I’ll never oppose it.”
@Alvin_Vivian
@Alvin_Vivian 6 ай бұрын
You can almost hear the unsaid part: "But as your sovereign, however..."
@joiisler8986
@joiisler8986 5 ай бұрын
Until she did Just That.😢
@nicolasdiez7688
@nicolasdiez7688 5 ай бұрын
For Margaret were more than enough those words, at least at that point of the story, because at that time Elizabeth and Margaret were closer than ever, here their bond was stronger than in the rest of the seasons
@02june80
@02june80 5 ай бұрын
It is indeed NO coincidence why the PM Winston L. S. Churchill - as per A. F. “Tommy” Lascelles’s suggestion - had Peter W. Townsend SUDDENLY posted to the British Embassy in Belgium in mid-July 1953 whilst Princess Margaret was still on a royal tour in Rhodesia (she was scheduled to return to London at the end of the month) as well as why her elder sister i.e. HM Queen Elizabeth II told her “to wait until she was 25”, i.e. the minimum age of a royal absolving the Sovereign from making a marital decision for any HRH as per the 1772 Royal Marriages Act.
@02june80
@02june80 5 ай бұрын
@@joiisler8986: Princess Margaret could still marry Peter W. Townsend as well as keep her title & royal stipends along with the royal duties. Her elder sister, i.e. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II & the Prime Minister R. Anthony Eden agreed to give their blessings - Eden was more sympathetic compared to his predecessor (Winston L. S. Churchill) as he was a divorcé himself like Townsend. In fact, the British Government proposed to top-up Princess Margaret’s (1952) Civil List yearly allowance of GBP6,000 significantly by an additional GBP9,000 per annum should the marriage with Townsend go ahead - he after all still had to pay child allowance to his ex-wife. Furthermore, the public by 1955 was generally supportive - people shouted cheers of support when she passed by that she could “go on [&] do what you want!” However, Princess Margaret apparently felt the caveats to the proposed marriage, i.e. losing her place as well as those of any of her children if she had any in the line of succession & the civil wedding condition as the Church of England was not to be involved were not worth it. “I have been aware that, subject to my renouncing my rights of succession, it might have been possible for me to contract a civil marriage. But, mindful of the Church’s teaching that Christian marriage is indissoluble, and conscious of my duty to the Commonwealth, I have resolved to put these considerations before any others. I have reached this decision entirely alone, and in doing so I have been strengthened by the unfailing support and devotion of Group Captain Townsend.” - Monday, 31st October 1955 What happened in May 1978 was different, i.e. she would not sacrifice her love for the Crown this time & became the first royal to divorce since King Henry VIII.
@monmothma3358
@monmothma3358 8 ай бұрын
Vanessa just kills in this scene, as nervous but happy, innocent and in love. Claire, too, as insecure and slightly panicked 😂 Damn shame that happiness was crushed.
@MsJubjubbird
@MsJubjubbird 8 ай бұрын
the real story though was that Margaret chose it herself. The only sacrifice she had to make was to give up her place in the line of succession. By then her sister had produced the heir and the spare so Margaret had a slim chance of being queen. She said she just wasn't committed enough
@alastairhopkins245
@alastairhopkins245 8 ай бұрын
@@MsJubjubbird Margaret was still third in line, and if Queen Elizabeth had died young, we would have needed a regent for Charles.
@MsJubjubbird
@MsJubjubbird 8 ай бұрын
@@alastairhopkins245 this was past the age when lots of kids died in childbirth and monarchs died in war of of communicable disease. Elizabeth was still wanting more kids too. The mother or Philip could have been regent. Margaret probably could have too given she still would have had her titles.
@fittrad3r687
@fittrad3r687 7 ай бұрын
Fake news
@lewis7515
@lewis7515 7 ай бұрын
This Season, and the performances in it, were just shattering.....
@thecommoner544
@thecommoner544 8 ай бұрын
If she only had been born a few decades later, she might have been allowed to marry who she wished.
@ebcbr1791
@ebcbr1791 8 ай бұрын
She was free to marry him, but unwilling to give up her royal titles.
@MsJubjubbird
@MsJubjubbird 8 ай бұрын
@@ebcbr1791 she didn't even have to do that. Just give up her place in line. She was already only third in line and her sister wanted to have more kids
@feyrol42
@feyrol42 8 ай бұрын
They would have divorced anyway
@gidzmobug2323
@gidzmobug2323 8 ай бұрын
@@MsJubjubbird As I remember, Margaret would have had to give up both title and perks (as her uncle did). Wonder if maybe Elizabeth had perhaps wished her father was still alive when that whole dust-up was happening.
@MsJubjubbird
@MsJubjubbird 8 ай бұрын
@@gidzmobug2323 no it was just the succession. The chances of her being queen were so small then
@davido9080
@davido9080 8 ай бұрын
Love Matt Smith in this. Not taking anything seriously 😂
@Knight-Bishop
@Knight-Bishop 8 ай бұрын
Pretty accurate for Philip, the only things he ever really took seriously were having to be subordinate to a woman and judging people based on ethnicity. 💀
@Lilly-hh9es
@Lilly-hh9es 7 ай бұрын
​@@Knight-Bishoplike most of British 🤢🤣🤣🤣
@rintoo6548
@rintoo6548 5 ай бұрын
​@@Knight-BishopA reasonable man
@bluecollarlit
@bluecollarlit 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, he's like Whatever.
@lewis7515
@lewis7515 7 ай бұрын
"Is there anything you'd like to ask us?" "Does your _wife_ know?........"
@tracyparker550
@tracyparker550 4 ай бұрын
Yea! That got me to.
@human_rights0
@human_rights0 9 күн бұрын
Ex-wife 💀
@jewelsnjoy
@jewelsnjoy 8 ай бұрын
Vanessa Kirby is absolutely brilliant in this scene
@sophieirwin3497
@sophieirwin3497 2 ай бұрын
Phillip is like 'eh, there's family drama, fine I'll let my soup go cold'
@chloeli8531
@chloeli8531 6 ай бұрын
The performance of Vanessa Kirby here is just amazing. I could feel her nervousness and happiness throughout the scene.
@invisible.fatman
@invisible.fatman 8 ай бұрын
Elizabeth was as good as her word - as a sister.
@02june80
@02june80 3 ай бұрын
Princess Margaret could still marry Peter W. Townsend as well as keep her title & royal stipends along with the royal duties. Her elder sister, i.e. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II & the Prime Minister R. Anthony Eden agreed to give their blessings - Eden was more sympathetic compared to his predecessor (Winston L. S. Churchill) as he was a divorcé himself like Townsend. In fact, the British Government proposed to top-up Princess Margaret’s (1952) Civil List yearly allowance of GBP6,000 significantly by an additional GBP9,000 per annum should the marriage with Townsend go ahead - he after all still had to pay child allowance to his ex-wife. Furthermore, as you mentioned, the public by 1955 was generally supportive - people shouted cheers when she passed by that she could “go on [&] do what you want!” However, Princess Margaret apparently felt the caveats to the proposed marriage, i.e. losing her place as well as those of any of her children if she had any in the line of succession & the civil wedding condition as the Church of England was not to be involved were not worth it. “I have been aware that, subject to my renouncing my rights of succession, it might have been possible for me to contract a civil marriage. But, mindful of the Church’s teaching that Christian marriage is indissoluble, and conscious of my duty to the Commonwealth, I have resolved to put these considerations before any others. I have reached this decision entirely alone, and in doing so I have been strengthened by the unfailing support and devotion of Group Captain Townsend.” - Monday, 31st October 1955 What happened in May 1978 was different, i.e. she would not sacrifice her love for the Crown this time & became the first royal to divorce since King Henry VIII.
@Sonsbitchesall
@Sonsbitchesall 7 ай бұрын
Her practically beginning to break out in tears In anxiety is brillllliant acting
@ultimatespidybawlz2198
@ultimatespidybawlz2198 6 ай бұрын
Margaret made a good point when she brought this up in season 5 how Anne was allowed to get married after being divorced as there was no possibility of her ever taking the throne and yet Margaret was denied that despite there being no possibility of her ever taking the throne either
@nicolasdiez7688
@nicolasdiez7688 5 ай бұрын
I believe it's because Margaret and Peter was between 1953-1955, Ana's case was in 1990's, about 40 years after, time enough to have things changed, in the 90's they were more flexible than in the 50's
@Ariana-wv4pf
@Ariana-wv4pf 4 ай бұрын
There was a huge cultural change between 1950 and 1990. Also, divorce became quite normal or at least less scandalous in 1990. And Margot could have married Peter, she just didn't want to give up all her privileges. Also Anne is the Queen's daughter. Kinda hard to deny happiness to your own daughter. And Anne's children don't have any titles.
@beccaadams6168
@beccaadams6168 Ай бұрын
I think the Queen always regretted her decision with Margaret. And this made her act differently with Anne. She watched as her family fell apart because of bad marriages lacking love and it contributed to the early death of one of her favorite people in the world, her sister.
@MauriceRivers415
@MauriceRivers415 8 ай бұрын
This is not the "Woe is me" story that Margaret and the history books made it out to be. Margaret was told that she could marry Peter, but only if she gave up all of her royal priviledges and her place in the succession line. She refused to do that on her own accord, and broke up with Peter instead. SHE MADE THE CHOICE.
@rachelcastillo1742
@rachelcastillo1742 7 ай бұрын
I think she feared she would be as miserable as her uncle was. He thought love was enough and he was proved to be wrong.
@V1CT0RIOUS_
@V1CT0RIOUS_ 6 ай бұрын
@@rachelcastillo1742He was living it up with Nazis and in a villa in France. He was also the Governor of the Bahamas.
@rachelcastillo1742
@rachelcastillo1742 6 ай бұрын
@@V1CT0RIOUS_ That may be true but what I was referring to was his relationship with his wife. It’s said that when he was dying he called out for Wallis and she didn’t come. He was cared for by his nurses instead.
@V1CT0RIOUS_
@V1CT0RIOUS_ 6 ай бұрын
@@rachelcastillo1742 Oh yeah lol. I don’t really consider Wallis and Edward true love that’s why I took it that way. I think Edward loved Wallis but she just wanted to be the king’s mistress and was upset and surprised when she was forced to settle with the role of duchess. Which is less of what she deserved imho.
@nancymccool1703
@nancymccool1703 7 ай бұрын
Vanessa Kirby and Helena Bonhem Carter killed it as Margaret. 😊
@frname7665
@frname7665 6 ай бұрын
Lesley Manville too, as a more settled down and head on her shoulders, older Margaret
@angelcitygirl
@angelcitygirl 8 ай бұрын
Margaret was very young and fell in love with the older man. In retrospect he was not the one for her. Also people forget that she could have married him but would have to give up her title. She didn't love him enough for that. She liked the title and lifestyle. So the bisexual photographer was better for her. More flamboyant to her lifestyle.
@_adrian_sean
@_adrian_sean 8 ай бұрын
But the photographer didn't love her! He just married her because his mom told him to. And it's not like her husband invited her to his sexual escapades
@graphiquejack
@graphiquejack 8 ай бұрын
Peter would have been better for her than Snowden was. But as you say, she chose her titles over him in the end. She was pretty unlucky in love.
@AB-zl4nh
@AB-zl4nh 8 ай бұрын
That's for her to decide though, not for anyone else.
@02june80
@02june80 6 ай бұрын
No, Princess Margaret could still marry Peter W. Townsend as well as keep her title & royal stipends along with the royal duties. Her elder sister, i.e. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II & the Prime Minister R. Anthony Eden agreed to give their blessings - Eden was more sympathetic compared to his predecessor (Winston L. S. Churchill) as he was a divorcé himself like Townsend. In fact, the British Government proposed to top-up Princess Margaret’s (1952) Civil List yearly allowance of GBP6,000 significantly by an additional GBP9,000 per annum should the marriage with Townsend go ahead - he after all still had to pay child allowance to his ex-wife. Furthermore, the public by 1955 was generally supportive - people shouted cheers when she passed by that she could “go on [&] do what you want!” However, Princess Margaret apparently felt the caveats to the proposed marriage, i.e. losing her place as well as those of any of her children if she had any in the line of succession & the civil wedding condition as the Church of England was not to be involved were not worth it. “I have been aware that, subject to my renouncing my rights of succession, it might have been possible for me to contract a civil marriage. But, mindful of the Church’s teaching that Christian marriage is indissoluble, and conscious of my duty to the Commonwealth, I have resolved to put these considerations before any others. I have reached this decision entirely alone, and in doing so I have been strengthened by the unfailing support and devotion of Group Captain Townsend.” - Monday, 31st October 1955 What happened in May 1978 was different, i.e. she would not sacrifice her love for the Crown this time & became the first royal to divorce since King Henry VIII.
@02june80
@02june80 6 ай бұрын
@@_adrian_sean: Peruse the “The Guardian” article “Friends defend the tippling princess” by Ben Summerskill dated Sunday, 17th February 2002.
@pablofrank2466
@pablofrank2466 8 ай бұрын
Margaret could have easily married Peter Townsend but she wasn't prepared to lose her HRH title, her allowance off the Civil List and live abroad. As she wasn't qualified to earn a salary, she would have found it very difficult to live on one salary with servants and chauffeurs. To my mind, if she was in love, she would have married him. Her uncle gave up everything for love.
@jezeannwilliams1145
@jezeannwilliams1145 8 ай бұрын
Her uncle was forced to give up everything for being a Nazi sympathizer. Love was the excuse to make the situation more palatable since the institution had worked so hard to distance itself from its 'German-ness' from 1917 onwards.
@theshillneckedlizard8364
@theshillneckedlizard8364 8 ай бұрын
She would never have had to earn a salary - the King was actually one of the largest private landholders in the UK, quite separate from the wealth that is kept in trust by the Crown. She was never going to be short of a quid, Civil List or not. I think that she simply gave in under the pressure.
@pablofrank2466
@pablofrank2466 8 ай бұрын
@@theshillneckedlizard8364 Her father was dead in 1955. Her mother (The Queen Mother) was dead against her marrying Peter Townsend). I doubt money would have been provided to Margaret to marry a divorced man.
@theshillneckedlizard8364
@theshillneckedlizard8364 8 ай бұрын
@@pablofrank2466 They were actually quite happy for her to marry him provided it was a morganatic marriage i.e. if she gave up her right to the throne, which in practical terms would have made no real difference, as she was slipping down the line of succession anyway. Both the Queen and Queen Mother actually personally liked and respected Peter Townsend - don't forget, they had known him for years, as he had been the King's equerry - and they did recognise that he was the "not at fault" party in his divorce. Their objection to the marriage was based solely on church doctrine. If Margaret had been willing to contract a morganatic marriage, just like her great-grandparents had (her grandmother Queen Mary was the product of a morganatic marriage) I believe they would have supported her, both financially and emotionally.
@lewis7515
@lewis7515 7 ай бұрын
I'm not sure it would have been that easy.....more so then, than now, all those things defined her. It will been a little like expecting her to cut off her dominant hand.... I mean, it's easy to accept it, as principle - even easy to write it down as contract - but to actually do it, in practice......It's big. Her uncle did it - and became a mockery: a nobody, significant of, nothing.....[*cough*]Harry'n'Meghan[*cough*]
@LukeKetchum7003
@LukeKetchum7003 6 ай бұрын
Vanessa Kirby is wonderful. I wish that she played a character on Game of Thrones. Or at least on House of the Dragon. Maybe she still can. There's already a Targaryen sitting at the table.
@sebastianmoy3323
@sebastianmoy3323 5 ай бұрын
She would be amazing as a Targaryen!!!
@kaylamura5378
@kaylamura5378 7 ай бұрын
Imagine having to give up everything, your home, your family, your title, and even your name all just to marry the person you love.
@02june80
@02june80 5 ай бұрын
Princess Margaret could still marry Peter W. Townsend as well as keep her title & royal stipends along with the royal duties. Her elder sister, i.e. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II & the Prime Minister R. Anthony Eden agreed to give their blessings - Eden was more sympathetic compared to his predecessor (Winston L. S. Churchill) as he was a divorcé himself like Townsend. In fact, the British Government proposed to top-up Princess Margaret’s (1952) Civil List yearly allowance of GBP6,000 significantly by an additional GBP9,000 per annum should the marriage with Townsend go ahead - he after all still had to pay child allowance to his ex-wife. Furthermore, the public by 1955 was generally supportive - people shouted cheers of support when she passed by that she could “go on [&] do what you want!” However, Princess Margaret apparently felt the caveats to the proposed marriage, i.e. losing her place as well as those of any of her children if she had any in the line of succession & the civil wedding condition as the Church of England was not to be involved were not worth it. “I have been aware that, subject to my renouncing my rights of succession, it might have been possible for me to contract a civil marriage. But, mindful of the Church’s teaching that Christian marriage is indissoluble, and conscious of my duty to the Commonwealth, I have resolved to put these considerations before any others. I have reached this decision entirely alone, and in doing so I have been strengthened by the unfailing support and devotion of Group Captain Townsend.” - Monday, 31st October 1955 What happened in May 1978 was different, i.e. she would not sacrifice her love for the Crown this time & became the first royal to divorce since King Henry VIII.
@Mali-D1
@Mali-D1 8 ай бұрын
Karma : three of the Queens children are divorced and she passed the crown to an adulterer and divorced man who married a divorced woman.
@kasskath3578
@kasskath3578 8 ай бұрын
What karma? The Queen couldn't jump over the Church's of England rules. You're still not getting it?
@gidzmobug2323
@gidzmobug2323 8 ай бұрын
​@@kasskath3578The Church of England had relaxed its rules since 1936. Divorced people can remarry in the Church now. This was not the case in Edward's time, or in Margaret's.
@aditpratama1514
@aditpratama1514 8 ай бұрын
​@@gidzmobug2323i agree with u, but the people in that era was still obsessed with them especially after the shocking abdication. Its about reputation.
@cg8397
@cg8397 8 ай бұрын
​@@gidzmobug2323Charles and Camilla did NOT marry in the CofE, they married civilly and then had a Church blessing only. This is because the rules were relaxed to allow divorced persons to remarry only if they weren't involved in the breakdown of any of the previous marriages, and that wasn't the case with Charles and Camilla.
@gidzmobug2323
@gidzmobug2323 8 ай бұрын
@@cg8397 Correct. The Queen (Elizabeth) was not present at the civil wedding, but she was present for the blessing. As I remember it, Elizabeth consulted with many lawyers before she gave her consent. Diana was dead, but Andrew Parker-Bowles is still living.
@julianabarros3253
@julianabarros3253 8 ай бұрын
If you look beyond what the series shows, and research a little about what happened at that time, you will see that the queen was right not to bless this union. Yes, as a sister she was supportive but as queen she had rules to follow. The United Kingdom is not an absolute monarchy, but a parliamentary one, even the monarch has to obey rules imposed by parliament. Elizabeth could not simply ignore the church rules of the time, she was not a tyrant as many like to think. I also think this relationship wouldn't work, he was much older and more experienced. I think it was just passion. So much so that he soon exchanged Margareth for a 19-year-old girl. Margaret also did not love him enough to give up her royal titles and privileges.
@Threeleebird
@Threeleebird 7 ай бұрын
So what? The rules are not always indicative that everything will go swimmingly for the only thing that matters: maintaining the prestige and good image of the royal family and the crown. Elizabeth did not allow this marriage that could possibly have been disastrous and she allowed another marriage even more disastrous one. She did not allow her son, heir to the crown, to marry the woman he wanted because she did not meet the aristocratic standards required to be the future queen, but she made him marry a woman who did, but so came another disastrous marriage. In fact all of her children's first marriages that she approved, except Edward's, were an absolute disaster. Now I'm not saying that was her fault, my point is that following the rules and imposing them on your family doesn't always lead to the expected result.
@mariellemorris5663
@mariellemorris5663 7 ай бұрын
if it was just "passion" then why years later down the line did they reconnect? I believe they truly loved one another, I think Margaret just loved her sister/family more.
@VideoAmericanStyle
@VideoAmericanStyle 7 ай бұрын
@@mariellemorris5663 passion can pop up again. I think the point was that he was looking for something young and fun, and without Margaret he found a substitute soon enough.
@danielmorrisonrhymes
@danielmorrisonrhymes 6 ай бұрын
Bollocks. The Queen absolutely could and should have given her blessing, and the fact that she didn't is a big part of why the monarchy is now fading into irrelevance. Not that specific decision per se, but the mindset behind it.
@V1CT0RIOUS_
@V1CT0RIOUS_ 6 ай бұрын
@@danielmorrisonrhymes No, I’m glad Margaret wasn’t allowed, people seem to forget the age gap between these two, the relationship Peter had with George VI and the age the two met. It’s completely disgusting and Peter is a groomer.
@VideoAmericanStyle
@VideoAmericanStyle 7 ай бұрын
This series used to be so good, but slipped in recent seasons. I love the little touches like the loud ticking of the clock while QEII is thinking of a response.
@LastHussar1812
@LastHussar1812 8 ай бұрын
What they did to her was unspeakable. To force her to give up a divorced war hero so that she could marry some pimp of a photographer…
@theelitemanticore151
@theelitemanticore151 8 ай бұрын
To be fair, both Margaret and Tony have chemistry. It’s just that since both have very similar sassy personalities, they would compete against each other to prove who’s the alpha dog. Thus, crushing their marriage.
@nylotus
@nylotus 8 ай бұрын
@@theelitemanticore151 Wrong... he was trash. They could've made an exception. They did so for that mistress now wearing a crown being called queen.
@theshillneckedlizard8364
@theshillneckedlizard8364 8 ай бұрын
@@nylotus Actually, "they" (assuming you mean Parliament) did try to make an exception. Margaret was free to make a morganatic marriage; hell, her own grandmother, Queen Mary, was the product of a morganatic marriage, they were actually pretty common among the upper classes in Europe. Margaret was not backed into a corner, she had a perfectly viable option. The fact that she chose not to take it was on her, not on Parliament or the Queen.
@julianabarros3253
@julianabarros3253 8 ай бұрын
They didn't force her into anything. Margaret was a sad person, but she was not the victim. She had the option of giving up her kingly titles and her fat allowance to marry a divorced man. She didn't love him enough for that (like her uncle did). Not to mention that he shouldn't love her very much either, since it didn't take long for him to leave her for a 19-year-old girl.
@julianabarros3253
@julianabarros3253 8 ай бұрын
​@@nylotusContrary to many people think, the queen could not change everything she wanted. The United Kingdom is not an absolute monarchy, but a constitutional one. In other words, the monarch also has to obey rules. Parliament has the power. So much so that the English parliament had the final say on Diana and Charles' divorce. Charles and Camilla got married civilly, the bishop only gave a symbolic blessing. Charles would continue to have a relationship with Camilla, whether the queen wanted it or not, I think so as not to get even more irritated or upset with her son, the queen gave her blessing.
@human_rights0
@human_rights0 9 күн бұрын
3:20 face express showed her natural acting😊😊😊😊
@_adrian_sean
@_adrian_sean 8 ай бұрын
🙃i can't believe I'm saying this... But i agree with the Queen. She was too young, he was divorced and they met because he was her DAD'S best friend... And he'd just died! But after five years...i would've let it go. By then she's old enough to handle the trouble she gets herself into.
@julianabarros3253
@julianabarros3253 8 ай бұрын
Not to mention that he shouldn't love her so much either. He soon left her for a 19-year-old girl. I think that even if they had gotten married it wouldn't have lasted, I think it was just a passion that cooled down over time
@cg8397
@cg8397 8 ай бұрын
​@@julianabarros3253He was still married to his wife when they met (he and his wife had two sons together), and she was a teenager at the time while he was almost 16 years older than her. He seems like a predator.
@femininedivin3
@femininedivin3 7 ай бұрын
Interestingly enough the queen herself married at an even younger age than when Margaret asked for permission to marry peter
@02june80
@02june80 6 ай бұрын
@@cg8397: It is indeed NO coincidence why the PM Winston L. S. Churchill - as per A. F. “Tommy” Lascelles’s suggestion - had Peter W. Townsend SUDDENLY posted to the British Embassy in Belgium in mid-July 1953 whilst Princess Margaret was still on a royal tour in Rhodesia (she was scheduled to return to London at the end of the month) as well as why her elder sister i.e. HM Queen Elizabeth II told her “to wait until she was 25”, i.e. the minimum age of a royal absolving the Sovereign from making a marital decision for any HRH as per the 1772 Royal Marriages Act.
@02june80
@02june80 6 ай бұрын
Princess Margaret could still marry Peter W. Townsend as well as keep her title & royal stipends along with the royal duties. Her elder sister, i.e. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II & the Prime Minister R. Anthony Eden agreed to give their blessings - Eden was more sympathetic compared to his predecessor (Winston L. S. Churchill) as he was a divorcé himself like Townsend. In fact, the British Government proposed to top-up Princess Margaret’s (1952) Civil List yearly allowance of GBP6,000 significantly by an additional GBP9,000 per annum should the marriage with Townsend go ahead - he after all still had to pay child allowance to his ex-wife. Furthermore, the public by 1955 was generally supportive - people shouted cheers when she passed by that she could “go on [&] do what you want!” However, Princess Margaret apparently felt the caveats to the proposed marriage, i.e. losing her place as well as those of any of her children if she had any in the line of succession & the civil wedding condition as the Church of England was not to be involved were not worth it. “I have been aware that, subject to my renouncing my rights of succession, it might have been possible for me to contract a civil marriage. But, mindful of the Church’s teaching that Christian marriage is indissoluble, and conscious of my duty to the Commonwealth, I have resolved to put these considerations before any others. I have reached this decision entirely alone, and in doing so I have been strengthened by the unfailing support and devotion of Group Captain Townsend.” - Monday, 31st October 1955 What happened in May 1978 was different, i.e. she would not sacrifice her love for the Crown this time & became the first royal to divorce since King Henry VIII.
@bibhushakarki9681
@bibhushakarki9681 8 ай бұрын
Peter is the bad guy for me. He should have known the rules and stayed away. But he used Margret to try and become royal.
@maximumhate666
@maximumhate666 8 ай бұрын
It’s the internet so there must be at least one person with a ridiculous take. Clearly ROYALTY was what this shy soldier was seeking.
@monical.r13
@monical.r13 8 ай бұрын
Actually, Princess Margaret could have married IF she gave up all of her royal titles, and he agreed to those terms, SHE (Princess Margaret) didn't, so the engagement was cancelled
@_adrian_sean
@_adrian_sean 8 ай бұрын
​@@monical.r13no. The Queen never approved the marriage. It wasn't just giving up her title. She would've been ostracized and black balled like her uncle when he denounced the throne. Never talking to the family again. Peter knew she didn't want that and that the queen would never say yes so he eventually gave up
@02june80
@02june80 6 ай бұрын
@@monical.r13: No, Princess Margaret could still marry Peter W. Townsend as well as keep her title & royal stipends along with the royal duties. Her elder sister, i.e. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II & the Prime Minister R. Anthony Eden agreed to give their blessings - Eden was more sympathetic compared to his predecessor (Winston L. S. Churchill) as he was a divorcé himself like Townsend. In fact, the British Government proposed to top-up Princess Margaret’s (1952) Civil List yearly allowance of GBP6,000 significantly by an additional GBP9,000 per annum should the marriage with Townsend go ahead - he after all still had to pay child allowance to his ex-wife. Furthermore, the public by 1955 was generally supportive - people shouted cheers when she passed by that she could “go on [&] do what you want!” However, Princess Margaret apparently felt the caveats to the proposed marriage, i.e. losing her place as well as those of any of her children if she had any in the line of succession & the civil wedding condition as the Church of England was not to be involved were not worth it. “I have been aware that, subject to my renouncing my rights of succession, it might have been possible for me to contract a civil marriage. But, mindful of the Church’s teaching that Christian marriage is indissoluble, and conscious of my duty to the Commonwealth, I have resolved to put these considerations before any others. I have reached this decision entirely alone, and in doing so I have been strengthened by the unfailing support and devotion of Group Captain Townsend.” - Monday, 31st October 1955 What happened in May 1978 was different, i.e. she would not sacrifice her love for the Crown this time & became the first royal to divorce since King Henry VIII.
@02june80
@02june80 6 ай бұрын
@@_adrian_sean: It is indeed NO coincidence why the PM Winston L. S. Churchill - as per A. F. “Tommy” Lascelles’s suggestion - had Peter W. Townsend SUDDENLY posted to the British Embassy in Belgium in mid-July 1953 whilst Princess Margaret was still on a royal tour in Rhodesia (she was scheduled to return to London at the end of the month) as well as why her elder sister i.e. HM Queen Elizabeth II told her “to wait until she was 25”, i.e. the minimum age of a royal absolving the Sovereign from making a marital decision for any HRH as per the 1772 Royal Marriages Act.
@ulgk
@ulgk 2 ай бұрын
Vanessa Kirby is so pretty.
@mattdavis1735
@mattdavis1735 8 ай бұрын
Oh just another amazing scene from the cast of seasons 1 and 2! Matt's reaction is hilarious as he knows this a bad idea. And Claire perfectly expresses (with hardly saying a word) the many mixed emotions you feel when someone you care about tells you theyre marrying someone that you just know isn't good for them.....
@magzb2642
@magzb2642 8 ай бұрын
The ladies stuck to the rules, then along came the chaps..now look at the mess..
@bostonblackie9503
@bostonblackie9503 8 ай бұрын
If she loved him she could have left it all behind but she loved being a Princess and didn't give two hoots about Townsend.
@wickedwitchoftheeast88
@wickedwitchoftheeast88 8 ай бұрын
She would also have lost her civil list allowance so she wouldn't have a penny and would have to live on Peter's wage or her sisters generousity
@theshillneckedlizard8364
@theshillneckedlizard8364 8 ай бұрын
@@wickedwitchoftheeast88 Oh, come off it. She was the daughter of George VI, one of the wealthiest private landholders in England in his own right, as well as a granddaughter of the Bowes-Lyon family, who weren't exactly short of a penny either. The Civil List only accounted for a tiny fraction of her income. She was never going to be "without a penny." I think the truth is that she just caved in to the pressure.
@wickedwitchoftheeast88
@wickedwitchoftheeast88 8 ай бұрын
@@theshillneckedlizard8364 wealthy lifestyles costs a bomb, designer clothes, beautiful houses, hair and make up, restaurants, drinking, parties, expensive hobbies and holidays will eat away at your money especially when the civil list allowance stops that at least is a gurantee whereas inheritance can dwindle when you piss it down the drain. Keeping her titles and not giving them up means the crown will cover certain expenses. Look at the Duke of Windsor when he abdicated King George VI financially supported him until he died because the Duke lost his civil list allowance and he liked the high life his personal wealth probably didn't last long with his spending habits. Those who have never been without money don't value it they normally spend like water
@02june80
@02june80 6 ай бұрын
@@wickedwitchoftheeast88: No, Princess Margaret could still marry Peter W. Townsend as well as keep her title & royal stipends along with the royal duties. Her elder sister, i.e. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II & the Prime Minister R. Anthony Eden agreed to give their blessings - Eden was more sympathetic compared to his predecessor (Winston L. S. Churchill) as he was a divorcé himself like Townsend. In fact, the British Government proposed to top-up Princess Margaret’s (1952) Civil List yearly allowance of GBP6,000 significantly by an additional GBP9,000 per annum should the marriage with Townsend go ahead - he after all still had to pay child allowance to his ex-wife. Furthermore, the public by 1955 was generally supportive - people shouted cheers when she passed by that she could “go on [&] do what you want!” However, Princess Margaret apparently felt the caveats to the proposed marriage, i.e. losing her place as well as those of any of her children if she had any in the line of succession & the civil wedding condition as the Church of England was not to be involved were not worth it. “I have been aware that, subject to my renouncing my rights of succession, it might have been possible for me to contract a civil marriage. But, mindful of the Church’s teaching that Christian marriage is indissoluble, and conscious of my duty to the Commonwealth, I have resolved to put these considerations before any others. I have reached this decision entirely alone, and in doing so I have been strengthened by the unfailing support and devotion of Group Captain Townsend.” - Monday, 31st October 1955 What happened in May 1978 was different, i.e. she would not sacrifice her love for the Crown this time & became the first royal to divorce since King Henry VIII.
@02june80
@02june80 6 ай бұрын
Princess Margaret could still marry Peter W. Townsend as well as keep her title & royal stipends along with the royal duties. Her elder sister, i.e. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II & the Prime Minister R. Anthony Eden agreed to give their blessings - Eden was more sympathetic compared to his predecessor (Winston L. S. Churchill) as he was a divorcé himself like Townsend. In fact, the British Government proposed to top-up Princess Margaret’s (1952) Civil List yearly allowance of GBP6,000 significantly by an additional GBP9,000 per annum should the marriage with Townsend go ahead - he after all still had to pay child allowance to his ex-wife. Furthermore, the public by 1955 was generally supportive - people shouted cheers when she passed by that she could “go on [&] do what you want!” However, Princess Margaret apparently felt the caveats to the proposed marriage, i.e. losing her place as well as those of any of her children if she had any in the line of succession & the civil wedding condition as the Church of England was not to be involved were not worth it. “I have been aware that, subject to my renouncing my rights of succession, it might have been possible for me to contract a civil marriage. But, mindful of the Church’s teaching that Christian marriage is indissoluble, and conscious of my duty to the Commonwealth, I have resolved to put these considerations before any others. I have reached this decision entirely alone, and in doing so I have been strengthened by the unfailing support and devotion of Group Captain Townsend.” - Monday, 31st October 1955 What happened in May 1978 was different, i.e. she would not sacrifice her love for the Crown this time & became the first royal to divorce since King Henry VIII.
@nanny287
@nanny287 Ай бұрын
The tragedy is that this archaic system of who a royal could marry was still in place, especially after the fiasco with King Edward, and the subsequent pressure it put on Elizabeth’s father George, which she believed led to the premature death of her father, King George.
@andrelandry548
@andrelandry548 8 ай бұрын
IT was the first Time she had to offer her permission
@AfroSamurai1089
@AfroSamurai1089 8 ай бұрын
A few moments later....
@theboyy21
@theboyy21 6 ай бұрын
They lied to her then they still didn't allowed her to marry him. It's broke my heart to see true love being denied a chance.
@_s.k_1147
@_s.k_1147 6 ай бұрын
Yeaaa right 😂 lol if it was true love, she would have no problem giving up her wealth and status to be with him. It's been done before. She valued money and power way more. He's also a fool, he cheated on his wife and abandoned them for Margaret, only for her to choose the monarchy over him. Perfect karma!
@user-pk1gp7iy2o
@user-pk1gp7iy2o 5 ай бұрын
If Margaret had TRULY loved him, she would have given up everything for him.
@annedavis6090
@annedavis6090 6 ай бұрын
Phillip..wanted his soup.
@Gabriel_Strelow
@Gabriel_Strelow 6 ай бұрын
Rewatching this, I almost blow up looking at Claire's face 😂. It's so relatable
@flowerfaerie8931
@flowerfaerie8931 5 ай бұрын
I love Margaret saying “it must not really be a terrible shock to you” and then the cut back to Elizabeth clearly thinking “yes tf it was!” before carrying on.
@IcarusLhooq-bc7uq
@IcarusLhooq-bc7uq 3 ай бұрын
It really is abusive for a younger sister to have to ask her sis for permission to be married . To be a necessary thing . The fear. I know they dont see it that way inside that system but...this is so very abonrmal
@monkeymama5052
@monkeymama5052 8 ай бұрын
This decision is what probably ruined her life. Peter treated her well and because she couldn't marry him, she went off and married an asshole who treated her like shit.
@krishnavyas313
@krishnavyas313 7 ай бұрын
Oh please! Peter a married in his 30's who persuade 14 years old princess and groomed her had physical relationship with her when she was 17 and when his wife find out she also had affair and run away with her lover. When margreat and Peter broke up he got un relationship with 16 years old girl and married her when she was 19.
@02june80
@02june80 6 ай бұрын
Princess Margaret could still marry Peter W. Townsend as well as keep her title & royal stipends along with the royal duties. Her elder sister, i.e. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II & the Prime Minister R. Anthony Eden agreed to give their blessings - Eden was more sympathetic compared to his predecessor (Winston L. S. Churchill) as he was a divorcé himself like Townsend. In fact, the British Government proposed to top-up Princess Margaret’s (1952) Civil List yearly allowance of GBP6,000 significantly by an additional GBP9,000 per annum should the marriage with Townsend go ahead - he after all still had to pay child allowance to his ex-wife. Furthermore, the public by 1955 was generally supportive - people shouted cheers when she passed by that she could “go on [&] do what you want!” However, Princess Margaret apparently felt the caveats to the proposed marriage, i.e. losing her place as well as those of any of her children if she had any in the line of succession & the civil wedding condition as the Church of England was not to be involved were not worth it. “I have been aware that, subject to my renouncing my rights of succession, it might have been possible for me to contract a civil marriage. But, mindful of the Church’s teaching that Christian marriage is indissoluble, and conscious of my duty to the Commonwealth, I have resolved to put these considerations before any others. I have reached this decision entirely alone, and in doing so I have been strengthened by the unfailing support and devotion of Group Captain Townsend.” - Monday, 31st October 1955 What happened in May 1978 was different, i.e. she would not sacrifice her love for the Crown this time & became the first royal to divorce since King Henry VIII.
@equilibriumidentified7067
@equilibriumidentified7067 8 ай бұрын
And His Majesty King Charles III had a chance to remarry and made his lover a Queen. What an unfair life to her. Eventually, she ended up being an outsider in her own family.
@frname7665
@frname7665 6 ай бұрын
Margaret was never an outsider in the Royal Family, at any point of her life. She and the Queen remained extremely tightly close during their entire lives.
@soilofk
@soilofk 7 ай бұрын
At the end She does not marry him, she is not allowed to, and she lived the rest of her life in misery.
@thelastbison2241
@thelastbison2241 8 ай бұрын
Look better than photographs
@luciddreaming2947
@luciddreaming2947 7 ай бұрын
She could do this for her sister ❤
@jihane1225
@jihane1225 6 ай бұрын
The queen married a guy who’s family was part of the nazis
@cherylhulting1301
@cherylhulting1301 5 ай бұрын
No, as the monarch she could not. Even the Queen had rules to follow.
@jihane1225
@jihane1225 6 ай бұрын
Her sister got sick because of unhappynis and broken heart
@jen-a-purr
@jen-a-purr 6 ай бұрын
It would suck azz to have to ask a family member if you can marry a certain person
@razakrd679
@razakrd679 6 ай бұрын
Exactly
@davido9080
@davido9080 8 ай бұрын
Continuity error! They were holding hands…then they weren’t.
@JohnParks-zc1pn
@JohnParks-zc1pn 7 ай бұрын
The scandal surrounding the abdication of Edward VIII was too close in time. She should have allowed her to marry him. Today it would not make one bit of difference.
@danielellis4749
@danielellis4749 2 ай бұрын
In reality, the Queen hated the idea of the marriage and effectively prevented it from happening. The episode was too similar to the abdication crisis of Edward VIII that caused so much discord.
@remycallie
@remycallie 7 ай бұрын
"You've known about Peter and I." Apparently being a member of the royal family doesn't mean you can speak grammatical English. Or maybe it's just the script writers who can't.
@cshubs
@cshubs 5 ай бұрын
In the S1 finale, the Queen has to deny/delay Margaret marriage once again due to part 2 of the Royal Marriage Act. Michael Adeane hadn't said a word about it (and seemed to take pleasure in that on the phone with Tommy). She should have fired or demoted him. Her personal secretary ought to know which info the queen considers important. He must have known that Maggie was waiting til age 25, blah blah. QEII should have demoted him to deputy and taken Martin, whom she wanted anyway. But alas.
@theserialbunny424
@theserialbunny424 7 ай бұрын
Her father would allowed her in a heartbeat. While watching this show it felt like queen was threatened by Margaret and peters popularity as a couple people loved them as couple even he was older to her he was so very handsome Peter Townsend
@krishnavyas313
@krishnavyas313 7 ай бұрын
No
@02june80
@02june80 6 ай бұрын
Princess Margaret could still marry Peter W. Townsend as well as keep her title & royal stipends along with the royal duties. Her elder sister, i.e. Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II & the Prime Minister R. Anthony Eden agreed to give their blessings - Eden was more sympathetic compared to his predecessor (Winston L. S. Churchill) as he was a divorcé himself like Townsend. In fact, the British Government proposed to top-up Princess Margaret’s (1952) Civil List yearly allowance of GBP6,000 significantly by an additional GBP9,000 per annum should the marriage with Townsend go ahead - he after all still had to pay child allowance to his ex-wife. Furthermore, the public by 1955 was generally supportive - people shouted cheers when she passed by that she could “go on [&] do what you want!” However, Princess Margaret apparently felt the caveats to the proposed marriage, i.e. losing her place as well as those of any of her children if she had any in the line of succession & the civil wedding condition as the Church of England was not to be involved were not worth it. “I have been aware that, subject to my renouncing my rights of succession, it might have been possible for me to contract a civil marriage. But, mindful of the Church’s teaching that Christian marriage is indissoluble, and conscious of my duty to the Commonwealth, I have resolved to put these considerations before any others. I have reached this decision entirely alone, and in doing so I have been strengthened by the unfailing support and devotion of Group Captain Townsend.” - Monday, 31st October 1955 What happened in May 1978 was different, i.e. she would not sacrifice her love for the Crown this time & became the first royal to divorce since King Henry VIII.
@ad6417
@ad6417 3 ай бұрын
She chose princesshood over love.
@mjremy2605
@mjremy2605 8 ай бұрын
To think that all that money and power is for nothing. That love could not flower in that controlled zone. How terrifying and devastating. A huge crime was committed when Margaret and Peter could not be together and married happily. What a sin to part lovers.
@krishnavyas313
@krishnavyas313 12 күн бұрын
Oh please peter was pedophile. Peter was married man in his mid 30's when he persuade 14 years old princess. When his wife find out about it she also had affair and ran away with her lover. In 1955 peter and princess margreat announced their break up and peter started having seeing with 15-16 years old princess margreat look alike. When that girl turned 19 he married her.
@uppanadam
@uppanadam 3 ай бұрын
Asking your sister for permission!! Starting to understand why Harry annexed his family!!
@chriswilde7246
@chriswilde7246 6 ай бұрын
It was a big mistake they were not allowed to marry......really bad.
@tatianastropsa-fs8oe
@tatianastropsa-fs8oe 8 ай бұрын
❤👍
@amjh4lah809
@amjh4lah809 8 ай бұрын
First 😁 and insanely early 😁
@keithss67
@keithss67 8 ай бұрын
Not to be unkind, but she just strikes me a selfish,self centered, silly person who never really understood her place in the scheme of things. Kind of like prince Harry
@bingostarr5455
@bingostarr5455 8 ай бұрын
She understood how useless and arbitrary the monarchy is.
@keithss67
@keithss67 8 ай бұрын
@@bingostarr5455 oh please! She dined out on her status her whole life. Never did a day of work and made sure everyone curtseyed to her
@commodorezero
@commodorezero 8 ай бұрын
Throughout history the 2nd child ended up actually inheriting the throne a disproportinate amount of the time. Elizabeth was the daughter of a 2nd son, who was also the son of a 2nd son whose grandmother was Queen Victoria the daughter of a 4th son! Margarets and Harrys were born as insurance policys but historically they were very often needed. There are many universes where Margaret and Harry became the monarch.
@keithss67
@keithss67 8 ай бұрын
@@commodorezero hmmmmmmm out of a thousand years of British history it’s usually the first born. Victoria only inherited because her three eldest uncles (George the 4th,Frederick the Duke of York,and William the 4th had no surviving legitimate heirs. George the 6th got the throne because his older brother was a turd. Better example would be queen Elizabeth’s grandfather George the 5th. He inherited the throne because his older brother the Duke of Clarence died of pneumonia before he could Marry Mary of teck and get her pregnant. Luckily for poor Mary, Queen Victoria had taken a shine to her, and she browbeat her grandson George into marrying her. Happy days all around. But thanks for the history lesson. 👍
@rhodvalenciaga2743
@rhodvalenciaga2743 8 ай бұрын
She definitely knew her place. She always had disagreements with her family but she never ridiculed them publicly.
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