Scented vs Unscented Corn for Kokanee

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Жыл бұрын

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There is little doubt that corn is the king of Kokanee baits. Anglers obsess over their Kokanee corn recipes but does all that added scent and curing make a difference? In this video I fish unscented corn straight from the can vs cured and scented corn. The results speak for themselves.
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@joshwestfall8750
@joshwestfall8750 Жыл бұрын
Right on I grew up in sweet home
@TheFishingDoctorsAdventures
@TheFishingDoctorsAdventures Жыл бұрын
I always smear with the Procure kokanee/krill/trout scents. They really stick well and long lasting work fantastic for kokanee and Salmon. Made some believers out of friends I've outfished using scent. Usually have to toss them a bottle from my boat to theirs.
@ryanseratt9123
@ryanseratt9123 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful thank you
@jessetharp6319
@jessetharp6319 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I didn’t know pro cure had a corn cure. 👍🏻
@ryanbarton6739
@ryanbarton6739 Жыл бұрын
That was a great comparison 👍
@reapergrim76
@reapergrim76 Жыл бұрын
This is great! 👍
@jerillarhen
@jerillarhen Жыл бұрын
Good stuff as usual. I have discussed this at length with many kokaholics and several have told me that on certain days NCS (natural corn scent) will way outperform any of the other 4+ scents they are running but scents are much more consistent. I just never bring corn without my special magic in it so i have never tried.
@dabirds413
@dabirds413 Жыл бұрын
I do a can of white shoepeg and then dump a can of tuna in oil with it and mix it up. Then I add some pickling salt and I’ve had way better luck lately
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
That's the mix I first started with too. Its effective!
@joshwestfall8750
@joshwestfall8750 Жыл бұрын
That work very well
@Aaron-bo8mz
@Aaron-bo8mz Жыл бұрын
Glad you made it down to my neck of the woods :)
@the_ling_council
@the_ling_council Жыл бұрын
That’s a beautiful lake
@Girthology
@Girthology Жыл бұрын
Great content as usual. I've always ran the gulp maggots just for the easy, but I'll have try this. Any advice for trolling staind/muddy water? With high amount of run off, almost all the kokanee water around here looks like chocolate milk.
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
Its tough. Look for contrasting darker colors with some flash e.g. blue, black, or purple combined with silver or gold. Something that puts out a lot of vibration will help excited their lateral lines, so stuff like spinners should do better.
@Girthology
@Girthology Жыл бұрын
​@@spiltmiltGreat! Thanks
@chubbrock659
@chubbrock659 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you’re in Utah!
@mjb1969
@mjb1969 Жыл бұрын
Love your channel. Your obviously a very great angler and kayak angler. I have to ask you how you determine when it’s safe to fish or not with the weather situation. I bought a kayak and want to fish but I don’t want to make a Mile trip and get in trouble. Please let us know how you or when you decide it’s safe to fish in a kayak. Thanks Ty..
@jbkokanee1796
@jbkokanee1796 Жыл бұрын
I check the forecast for wind, anything over 5mph is a no-go. Maybe find a lake where the fish can be found near the launch?
@pdx25rsti
@pdx25rsti Жыл бұрын
First, thanks for all the good info you've put out... I've gone from skunks to limits purely by following your guidelines. :-) Quick question... how much corn do you mix up in a batch? just enough for the day or do you make enough for multiple days? if you make enough for multiple days do you freeze it between trips? keep in the fridge? other?
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
From one can of corn I'll rig 4 batches typically of different scents and colors. If I don't plan on using them within 3 or 4 weeks I freeze them. I've used frozen corn from the previous year and done fine.
@BennettBuilt-yu2gw
@BennettBuilt-yu2gw Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video once again! I'm assuming you aren't a fan of the pre-cured/scented variety's from Pautzke? Any thoughts on why other than enjoying making your own and testing things? Because I do enjoy making my own and always use green giant shoepeg corn in the white can. Also, I usually tip both of my hooks with the tail of a worm as well and feel like this greatly increases my catch ratio, any thoughts?
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
I used the Pautzke's stuff. Its okay in a pinch but the stuff I've cured myself always out performs. I've not tried the worm thing but I'd rather not have to deal with live bait plus worms are friggin expensive now!
@BennettBuilt-yu2gw
@BennettBuilt-yu2gw Жыл бұрын
@@spiltmilt I couldn't agree more. I keep Pautzke's handy just in case. We primarily fish Lake Cushman so if I forget worms or the corn I usually have a harder time as its a tough fishery. Worm dirt gets gear nasty and any injured ones can quickly spoil an entire batch, which can get costly if you fish a lot and understandable why not to use them. I really should get a compost bin together, I think the red wigglers would be great! We fish the Anderson Ranch Reservoir tournament every year and some of your tips have helped! We got 3rd last year, hoping to do better this round!
@nttoctavian
@nttoctavian Жыл бұрын
Can you also do a test with fluorocarbon vs braid for the hoochies setup? I would like to try braided line for the hooks as I think it also last longer?
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
Good idea!
@FamilyNick
@FamilyNick Жыл бұрын
Great video!!!! What reels are you using? Any recommendation for a affordable reel with a line counter?
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
Daiwa Lexa 100lc is among my favorite amzn.to/3Ir8VGQ
@WetNetOutdoorsPodcast
@WetNetOutdoorsPodcast Жыл бұрын
I’d like to see your cured and scented vs straight corn with a can of tuna mixed in. I bet it would be a more balanced outcome.
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
Of course that wouldn’t be surprising
@ElliottMorris
@ElliottMorris Жыл бұрын
Hey Tyler - thanks for another great video. Off-topic question for you. I know you often fish Alta Lake. Have you fished there this season? I fished there yesterday, and there was a kayaker and a couple other boats fishing for kokanee. I got no kokanee, nor did the kayaker, and I didn't see the nets come out on any of the boats. I also saw no kokanee on the fish finder, despite the water surface temperature of 70 degrees, which would have driven any kokanee deeper.
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
I've heard of a few fish caught this year. That lake cycles up and down all the time so I'm not surprised.
@ElliottMorris
@ElliottMorris Жыл бұрын
@@spiltmilt thanks for the feedback. I wanted to try it but next time I will head to another lake.
@seanmckinnie3969
@seanmckinnie3969 Жыл бұрын
Tyler - Always good content - question for you and may have covered this before and I haven't seen it, but why anise early in the season with a transition to garlic and bloody tuna late in the season?
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
Just personal experience.
@scottulbrich5376
@scottulbrich5376 Жыл бұрын
i haven't fished there in years and years, i think i caught my first kokanee in that reservoir
@chubbrock659
@chubbrock659 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always wondered why corn attracts these fish. It’s not like they have corn in their natural habitat!
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
The age old question.
@adamsnyder9347
@adamsnyder9347 Жыл бұрын
The un-cured corn is so much softer, it could be falling off before your rig gets bit. That may explain why only one hook is getting them with plain corn- short strikes, or the current strip the bait off-by the time they get hooked, half the bait fell off. What was your experience with retrieving your gear and re- baiting? Did the plain corn come back stripped more often?
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
A few times it was stripped which is why I would check it after short strikes.
@jeffreyroecker7964
@jeffreyroecker7964 Жыл бұрын
Will that setup work at Merwin? Mom and I got a trailer and campsite at the hideaway in Amboy. I have both my yaks there now. Justin at Angler W in Woodland said he can set something up my first time fishing in WA. Hopefully to try for muskies.
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
Yes this works for Merwin Kokanee
@justingordon9384
@justingordon9384 Жыл бұрын
Knew it was gp soon as I heard the geese lol
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
That island has got to be one of the most contested pieces of goose property in the state. 😂
@Marcg5555
@Marcg5555 Жыл бұрын
Hay man, another great vid. Curious, are micro hootchies good for trolling for trout or have you ever tried? Just wondering your thoughts. Thanks again
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
Yes I catch a ton of trout on them.
@kyleblandon2250
@kyleblandon2250 11 ай бұрын
I fish for rainbows in Colorado exactly the same way (trolling a dodger/hoochie or dodger/KCP combo) and consistently outperform others on the lake, and usually catch the larger trout. Maybe people don’t fish for trout like that very often where I’m at so it’s a new thing for the fish, but realistically trout and Kokanee are both salmonids and feed similarly so I figured “why not?” and it has really been fun!
@vitpav777
@vitpav777 Жыл бұрын
Hey. When I try trolling with the clip in weights. Let’s say I let out 60ft of line. Then put on a 3oz weight and let out another 40, approx how deep would I be fishing at, if I’m going 1mph
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
20' most likely at such a low speed depending on the dodger and line diameter. If you speed up to 1.5 it'll be closer to 10-15'.
@vitpav777
@vitpav777 Жыл бұрын
@@spiltmilt reason why I do around 1mph. Because then trout get it and I can’t get any Kokanee.
@jonlewis7140
@jonlewis7140 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a chart or equation that you use or could share for speed to line out to depth? This has been my biggest struggle as I feel like I'm just guessing at depth. I mark a lot of fish, but I rarely get a hit. I've been going 1.5mph 40' back, 4oz clip-in, and another 40 to 60' out. I'm guessing between 25-30' deep? Thanks for any advice!
@snagrbuster7343
@snagrbuster7343 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for Great videos!! As a fish pathologist, I have a question. Since they're plankton feeders, why do you think they go for Corn?! 😊
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
Sugar, salt, and added fish oils, what’s not to like?
@adamwarrick2970
@adamwarrick2970 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever used 'Fire Corn'. I bought some, but haven't tried it. Guy I talked to says it doesn't perform near as well as soaked canned corn or gulp maggots...I'm actually headed to Green peter this Sunday for the first time. I heard there are pylons you have to go through at one of the ramps...wonder why...
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
I've used FireCorn, its okay but homemade corn or Berkley Gulp is far better.
@brian1204
@brian1204 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if you soaked your hoochies in the scent would they outperform unscented as well, and perform as well as with the cured corn?
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
They might. Soft plastic will absorb scent.
@user-pe9yn6ut3j
@user-pe9yn6ut3j Жыл бұрын
Is it good to scent corn with tuna oil or will it just fall off because it’s oil based
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
Tuna oil is great. Just refresh every 15-20 minutes
@oak8728
@oak8728 Жыл бұрын
I just got some of the cure, curious about freezing a can of shoepegg to last a couple trips. Should I freeze the corn in smaller containers without cure or cure first before freezing?
@kyleblandon2250
@kyleblandon2250 11 ай бұрын
My thought would be to cure it first, then freeze. Mainly because corn has a substantial amount of water in it, when you freeze it, the ice breaks the cell wall structure and then they get soft. Remove the water first (curing) and then freeze, that should help preserve structural integrity.
@oleksandrobzhylov8445
@oleksandrobzhylov8445 Жыл бұрын
Which scented corn do you use and where do you buy it ?
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
I make my own kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHK8kGaKoLqdhsk
@thehonfleur
@thehonfleur Жыл бұрын
Do you think scent matters for cutthroat and rainbow trout?
@stingray4540
@stingray4540 Жыл бұрын
How long do you keep your scents for? At only an 1/8tsp of each, if you aren’t fishing every day, a bottle could last you a long time, but how long is the scent good for? Do you throw out scents after a certain number of years?
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
Bait oils I keep for years and use them. The water soluble stuff I generally toss after two seasons but I use it for Kings a lot with my tuna.
@stingray4540
@stingray4540 Жыл бұрын
@@spiltmilt cool, thanks. I always stress about how long to keep this stuff. It’s so expensive, but there’s no sense in using it if it goes bad
@braddixon3338
@braddixon3338 Жыл бұрын
Do you also add scent to your lure? I've fished unscented corn a lot, but always have one scent or another on my lure and at times on the dodger, leaving a nice smelly trail back behind the boat.
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
No its just another mess to cleanup. All you need is the scented corn.
@MCigarz
@MCigarz Жыл бұрын
Why not salt the unscented and do it again?
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
I don’t know maybe I don’t exist in the plain of infinite time to explore very hypothetical 🤔
@paulvorson
@paulvorson Жыл бұрын
Tyler I’m confused, did you run all those scents together or different ones throughout the day? The shrimp, krill and anise. Thanks!
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
All together
@paulvorson
@paulvorson Жыл бұрын
@@spiltmilt dang, Whadya call that? kok-potion #9? 😁👍
@darylreinke2619
@darylreinke2619 Жыл бұрын
I up in albeta and can’t seem to find anything close to the dodgers you use. Can you tell me where I can get some? Would an apex work in place of a dodger?
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
Paulina Peak ships to Canada paulinapeaktackle.com/shop
@ChipDarby13
@ChipDarby13 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried a Gibbs Dog Tail Dodger? They work pretty good!
@Califishin292
@Califishin292 Жыл бұрын
What are the clips you are using that hood your weights?
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
Tuesday's video covers this topic kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3-0nGCKZcaJpsk
@zacharypedersen4090
@zacharypedersen4090 Жыл бұрын
In your experience do you prefer corn or berkley gulp maggots? Do you think one or the other has a higher bite ratio?
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
I have a video on this topic! What is the Best Bait for Kokanee? [Maggots vs Corn] kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJK7o5t3YpeFe6s
@zacharypedersen4090
@zacharypedersen4090 Жыл бұрын
​​@@spiltmilt thanks! I almost forgot you posted that video a few years ago. You are starting to have so many videos I can't keep track. 🤣
@ryanschembri4139
@ryanschembri4139 Жыл бұрын
try a different hook those gamakatsu drop shots are a really poor design
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
😂 okay
@ryanschembri4139
@ryanschembri4139 Жыл бұрын
@@spiltmilt decoy shot rig hooks are 👍
@spiltmilt
@spiltmilt Жыл бұрын
They look basically the same to me.
@ryanschembri4139
@ryanschembri4139 Жыл бұрын
@@spiltmilt on the gamakatsu the angle of the hook point and eye of the hook are the same. the result is a smaller than necessary gap between them. this tiny gap gives you a small amount of space to hook the fish. it is well known in the bass world for skin hooking fish since the gap on the hook is so small. compared with a hook like the one i mentioned before, the decoy hook has a larger gap giving you a better hook into your fish. plus its not a bad video idea.
@ryanschembri4139
@ryanschembri4139 Жыл бұрын
look close at the shot rig worm 10 hook compared to the gamakatsu dropshot. notice how the hook eye and hook point of the decoy is offset way more than the gamakatsu. while the gamakatsu hook has the hook eye and hook point almost in a straight line
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