Schiit Asgard III \\\ Jotunheim 2 \\\ Magnius _(Z Reviews)_

[@ZReviews]

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[@robertgosselin14]

Dig the shnazzy looking pants Zeos.

[@Haionsodium]

what rca spliters were you using ?

[@joemacafee7655]

Z: the Asgard 3, which doesn't say 3 in it anywhere... Me: Goes over to my Asgard 3 and looks at the Asgard 3 sticker on the back... "You sit on a throne of LIES!!!"

[@EssenceofPureFlavor]

More power can be helpful for certain headphones. I have an Asgard 3 and Dan Clark Aeon 2 closed. They're pretty inefficient, and the Asgard definitely helps them stretch their legs.

[@Rocketogre]

So, my psychiatrist says I'm unbalanced. So, this means I get the Asgard right?

[@alejandroaranda5254]

Depends on what turns you on

[@mmorales508]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Damien_N]

For 2 years i ran a Jotunheim I with a HD800S. Then I discovered WARMTH.

[@pblogic007]

So many different journeys. I'm trying to get rid of warmth.

[@daxxjapxx]

this is my first time watching you're videos, and you're a goddamn riot my dude. Entertainment value and actual reliable information...sign me up

[@valkyrieorion7200]

Glad you show actual functionality, I would totally have thought the Jot 2 would cut the HP output.

[@dplariosa]

Love my ASGARD 3. The thing is a beast.

[@3xplosiv0]

i HATED the magnius. It sounded so dead and made good headphones (like my aeolus) sound boring. I'm pretty happy I upgraded to the Jot2 because in my opinion it blows the magnius out of the water and actually made music engaging

[@AaronMais]

Man, I hope this is so. I have a Jot2 on order since April... to replace my Magnius.

[@cobrabucket]

Jotunheim 2 is AMAZING!!!! I can't decide whether I like it more than the Singxer SA-1 or not. Both are great, IMO. BTW, The Jot 2 is worth the extra $ over the Magnius. Magnius uses Op-Amps and Jot 2 uses a discrete design. Jot 2 FTW!

[@kristoffer8740]

Same here. Ended up selling the Magnius quite quickly. Bought a Flux Labs FA-12S.

[@3xplosiv0]

@Shinidoshi the asgard 3 is fantastic, great choice! I also adore EMU Teaks.

[@EverythingisFire]

@Shinidoshi Oh wow. I'm currently contemplating upgrading my Atom stack to JDS Labs' flag ship or go balanced with a Magnius/Modius.

[@redwolf48845]

I bought my Asgard 3 a couple months ago and I love it. Can't wait to try it with my Monolith M570s on order!

[@pdcragin33]

Z, others don’t want to show their sweat…and then there’s you. You do you, because we love it and also it clarifies just how much difference we can expect for our hard-earned cash. Thanks!

[@FND1337]

Thank you for another Great comparison between those close Calls ! Helped me to decide for the right Product.

[@StariusPrime]

Schiit stuff is so hard to get right now, they’re suffering from major supply issues. I’m still waiting on a order placed in January for a Modi Multibit, Loki, and Vali 2. If you can get anything from them within the span of a couple months, count yourself lucky.

[@joemacafee7655]

Yeah, I placed an order in January for a Modius/Magnius stack that I got tired of waiting for after months of ETA changes. Cancelled the order and ended up getting a used Topping 90 stack.

[@xxdalionxx]

Unfortunate stack. Modi multibit kinda bad and vali kinda meh

[@StariusPrime]

@da best I think it will make a fine sound card next to my Dune Pro case build.

[@Banished_Link]

Check B-stock, I got a Heresy(B-stock) plus a new Modi 3+ within a reasonable amount of time and the Heresy is in practically new condition.

[@joemacafee7655]

@@Banished_Link My Asgard was B-Stock as well, but you'd never know by looking at it...

[@DanielStinebaugh]

Love this schiit! I have the magnius/modius combo and use the rca out's for my sub, and xlr to a separate balanced amp. amazing combo for the money!

[@TheDodgefan9]

Got to say this kind of makes me wish I had gotten silver instead of black for my Asgard 3-Modius stack. That shiny volume knob is a winner.

[@ONeillsCreationWorkshop]

That's it, I'm buying an Asgard.

[@frankmonroe9696]

Go for it! I love your stands by the way.

[@johnellison3173]

Didn't regret my purchase. Couldn't care less about balanced so its great for me. Plus it also comes in black 👍

[@zelenizub2036]

Got modius an asgard great combo. But you have to let it run overnight, before listening. When i first turned it on it sounded really bad, like car misfiring. I was close to throw it through the window. I decided to let it run for 24 hours and now sounds wonderful. I guess there is something in burning in audio equipment...

[@gBoogie47]

I tried the Asgard 3 recently as I already have a Atom, but just like Zeos said, it's a few percent better than so I returned it. I liked the Asgard don't get me wrong but wasn't enough of a difference for me to warrant the purchase. Want something different so perhaps a Vali is next.

[@johnellison3173]

@@gBoogie47 Thats the thing about modern audio gear. It all has to be of a high quality standard just so they can compete. When you buy more expensive gear its usually only for a very slight improvement over the cheaper stuff and casuals probably won't even be able to tell the difference.

[@miguelbarrio]

Thx for the review, very useful. Couple of comments: 1- The Asgard 3 switches between headphones and RCA out when you unplug the headphones - ie it’s only headphones when they are plugged in, and when unplugged the RCAs come on (whether the headphone is disconnected or not doesn’t matter since they are not plugged in). I actually like this and use it often (the Asgard is my computer’s pre/headphone amp) 2- My experience is brighter makes for more soundstage separation. I think this might be because the phase information giving you the soundstage matters most at higher frequencies, so if those are louder, you’d get more of that.

[@aerofart]

Hey Zeos, did you sell your RME DAC? If not, and you still use it, you should do a follow-up review.

[@wfwlan7654]

I would love to see this video about headphones with a subwoofer. Been wanting to try that for a while but I can't do it because of reasons. But seeing you messing with that would be really interesting!

[@LeDechaine]

Well, seems like the "one review every 2 days" thing really helps. Seriously, this was a really detailed review. Thanks!

[@HiFiGOAudio]

I love the Magnius, now I guess I'll have to try the Asgard III next. A softer Magnius sounds very nice. Great review!

[@m4nc1n1]

I wish you would do the Asgard 2 (straight class A) against Asgard 3 (class A bias) and other class A amps. I got on clearance for $119 so it made it much easier over the Magnius (which is what I was going to buy but saw the clearance and class A aspect)

[@joshualee6932]

Asgard 3 stays in class A for 500mW. Unless your cans have a ridiculously high impedance or you're massacre'ing your ear drums I don't think you have much to worry about.

[@cobrabucket]

Jotunheim 2 is AMAZING!!!! I can't decide whether I like it more than the Singxer SA-1 or not. Both are great, IMO. BTW, The Jot 2 is worth the extra $ over the Magnius. Magnius uses Op-Amps and Jot 2 uses a discrete design. Jot 2 FTW!

[@tcc5750]

Agreed

[@Rev0ltTTV]

Which sounds warmer of the Singxer or Jot2? I'm looking to pair with beyer headphones.

[@cobrabucket]

@@Rev0ltTTV Jot 2

[@Someone-ig8ct]

@@cobrabucket how much warmer? Is it a big difference or just slightly?

[@cisco150]

@R00s Hi guys I have the Hifiman Ananda and Dac SMSL VMV D1SE with the SP200 which the XLR inputs are defective but looking at a different amp looking at this Singxer-SA1 or Jotunheim 2. What would you think be a good match i would like more bass out of my Anandas and not as harsh highs?

[@EricRosenfield]

The fact that the RebelAmp has a switch that changes to preamp mode AND shuts off the headphone jack = worth $300 more (I'm only sort of joking)

[@aranc23]

rebelamp is all sold out at the moment...

[@MrAhuraMazda]

@@aranc23 then wait a little................

[@MrAhuraMazda]

@@aranc23 ...............................

[@badkermit180]

i enjoyed this video not because it had exactly the information I was looking for but for the sheer entertainment of how frazzled you seem after being down in your basement all day, i totally vibed with it 😂

[@pankar0]

Hey Z..Jotunheim 2 or Singxer sa-1, it s interesting a review between those two.

[@ZReviews]

SA1 by a ways to my ears.

[@filovirus1]

I went with the one that actually shipped when I placed order. (hate to say this since I'm a Schiit fan...)

[@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou]

@@ZReviews "by a ways" means "by a lot", right?

[@Umfyq]

Judging by the title I thought it was a Ragnarok episode

[@robertkirkpatrick1826]

Zeos was right I LOVE my Zeus’. Amazing mmorpg and RPG headphone!

[@neovisual633]

Im considering either thr Xduoo ta-22 or the Jot 2... any recommendation?

[@mikeythanos]

Just got a asgard 3 for $160 used, first owner only had it for 3 months. Easy dub and it's in today

[@krucacing]

lcd xc 2021 videos coming soon?

[@1lik3c0ff3]

and ananda?

[@FabioRigokimbaorso]

I am pretty happy with my IFI ZEN, coupled with my Zen Dac... I retired my Shiit Modi 2 for plugging that in, together with my Little Dot I , SML THX SP200 and FIIO K5.. and my SMSL Infeon SA300 / Jamo S803 couple..

[@joemacafee7655]

Zen DAC / Asgard 3 no DAC is a fantastic combination BTW...

[@brandonmcneal7659]

I have this combo and agree wholeheartedly that the Zen and award are lovers.

[@brandonmcneal7659]

Oops...asgard

[@zelenizub2036]

What about Xduoo MT 602 or MT604 vs these?

[@ZReviews]

604 is a god mode amp. And I don't understand how. You will see that review in a few days, maybe a week.

[@zelenizub2036]

@@ZReviews Only thing I don't like is having 2 volume control knobs. Can you try to run it as "headphone power amp" and use another amp to control volume. Since it has two inputs might be worth trying.

[@xophere]

Speakers on the Asgard 3 are on a switch. The switch is the headphone plug. In the preouts are off. Sucks when I forget to pull the adapter. Why are my speakers playing? Oh right. Volume pot on the Asgard is so nice....

[@bigjt37]

New Ananda? Did they change something?

[@llr3zall151]

Thanks for bringing some attention to the finishes. One of the nice things about Schiit is having so many different components and going for a stack and you would not want a stack of things from the same company with different finishes!!! And it is not just the silver products!!! Even the black finish products have different colors for the letters and logos! Some are grey like asgard/modius and some are white like jot/saga!!! Why Schiit!? Why you do this?!!!

[@DrAg0n3250]

The Pre-outs on the back of the A3 do mute when you plug something into the 6.5mm on the front. Also, I guess pigs fly now since Z reviewed these lol the year just keeps getting weirder by the week...

[@CesarFerrer]

whats that at 20:40 minute mark? were you listening to arjen anthony lucassen? sounded like the first song of the cd 2 from Lost in the New Real (our imperfect race)

[@dap777754]

So I still own and love the "third rail" power suckers (HIFIMAN HE-6). Question: is the Jotunheim up for it -- can it power the HE-6 and make it sing? BTW where is your pair of HE-6, the original "special needs" headphone?

[@engolivecomau]

Should it help anyone, I found IEM (CampFire Andromeda) to be much more noisier on Jot2 SE than Asg3 SE. IEM match is necessary and on Jot2, only ultra setting takes away the noise but then also detracts from the overall quality (the default setting below ultra is better and noise is not so audible with sound). I don't normally go IEM on my amp and use Focal Clears instead but thought I'd share what I found out of curiosity.

[@the_wau_]

I'm liking the changes made to your channel as of lately; having Z Reviews dedicated to just reviews + occasionally something else is nice, and I also like that you have been able to include multiple products per upload

[@joosteijkenboom1988]

Love these kind of videos Z! More of this please :)

[@babaiStudioLab]

hugs bro)

[@flikflak24]

Why not the t50rp on the amp's zeos? We all know that love power

[@sebastianrosenbach7873]

Does the 500mw of class A bias on the Asgard mean that it will do that into any impedance? So will it be pure class A into a 600ohm headphone?

[@aqwandrew6330]

what is class A mean?

[@EssenceofPureFlavor]

As far as I understand, yes. Impedance determines how much power you get, but still the same for a certain amount of power.

[@marley720]

@@aqwandrew6330 4:08

[@yaminbayazid9038]

For 200 bucks which one is better Schiit Magnius or iFi zen can? Thank you.

[@D3PU7Y]

Been running a Asgard III with a Bifrost 2, good Schiit!

[@Thoughtflux]

Any impressions of Asgard 2 vs the Asgard 3? (pure Class A vs Class A bias?) I have Bifrost (multibit) feeding my Asgard 2. Is 3 a worthy upgrade or should I get something else?

[@SveinOlavGlesaaenNyberg]

That volume thing, did that go for the Fostex too? You say they are ultra hard to drive, but how far did you have to turn the knob up on those? How far COULD you turn the knob up without causing pain to your ears?

[@geekinked]

Not sure about the Jotunheim, but my asgard II doesn't play to my speakers if I have headphones attached to my 1/4 inch output.

[@colvinscorner]

I am new to buying dacs and amps. Thinking of getting the asgard. My onky concern is I will be hooking up my laptop to it. There is no usb input. What is the best way to connect a usb output to the rca input of the asgard? Would a simple usb to rca cable work?

[@sammcguckin4828]

Zeos: "So why are you pushing 8K?" Me, having just bought an 82 inch 8K Samsung because it was on sale: "That's why!"

[@SneakyBinHidden]

I just bought dt1900s, would the asgard 3 be good? I have a max of 400 Budget.

[@TheMstwntdLMSV123]

Do you recommend either of the internal dac options with the asgard?

[@JebsonofJeb]

GL2000 Gustard H16 or Jotenheim 2?

[@FiniteCS]

I ordered the Jotunheim 2 and Modius back in April and they've been on rolling backorder for over 2 months now, and this video makes me worry about my purchase... I chose the Jotunheim 2 because I heard the SE and balanced output have different sound signatures. With Jot2's SE sounding like Class A and being a bit better than the Asgard 3, and the balanced output sounding like a linear amp on par with the A90. So me thinking it'd be an amazing first amp to buy since I'd get two sound signatures from one amp thought this was a no brainer since I could then see whether I like a more linear or warm sound more. Of course, if I get my Jot2 and enjoy it, then I shouldn't care whether it was the right or wrong purchase, since it's always better to be happy with what you have, but thinking I might have been about the same spending half as much money makes me feel like shit nonetheless. Here's hoping I at least get the two separate sound signatures so I can at least feel good about that, and if I like warm better, I can have my next purchase be the Monoprice Liquid Platinum, and if I like linear more, then I can get the Rupert Neve RNHP or maybe something higher end.

[@redleather420]

You mentioned that this is your first purchase and maybe your first entry into high end audio. Let me try and save you a lot of time. And I don't mean to come off snarky or rude. You are at the wrong place. Z actually got me into hind audio about 2 years ago. Just like he seems to have gotten you into hi end audio. I could be wrong of course about your situation. Save yourself the 8 months it took me. Of basically worshiping zeos reviews and products. Go to head fi or super best audio friends. Find the forums using Google type in" jotunheim 2 review / impressions forum" directly into Google just like that are at super best audio friends or headphones to the end of that sentence or search. And you will find very long threads of extremely experienced audio files they have all personally had most of the high end and mid-fi gear in the past decade. They will tell you what sounds best as a DAC they will tell you which amps to go for for whatever your preference is. There is so much information there please do not feel so badly based on this review. Zeos is fun to watch And I hope you keep watching him but if you want actual impressions go to the forums I mentioned. Even his own forum hifiguides have great members with everything you need. But try the first two I mentioned first. To get to your question about the jot2 you saying that it is your first amp? I would not recommend anything this high-end for your first time. You have no reference and will therefore ruin a lot of the excitement of upgrading gear in the future because you are starting so high. To set the record straight the jot 2 single ended does sound different than the balanced. But it is not majorly so. It is slightly more round and full sounding basically like the Asgard. And the balanced is superior in every way. It does not sound like a topping product in any way although the high end a90 does get closer to schiit and burson and other audiophile brands however I would stay away from China gear until you know exactly what they sound like especially the measurement ones. I know this is a long message but if you go to the forums you will have saved a lot of time.

[@cobrabucket]

@@redleather420 /\ THIS. Jotunheim 2 is AMAZING!!!! I can't decide whether I like it more than the Singxer SA-1 or not. Both are great, IMO. BTW, The Jot 2 is worth the extra $ over the Magnius. Magnius uses Op-Amps and Jot 2 uses a discrete design. Jot 2 FTW!

[@redleather420]

@@cobrabucket not a fan of OP amp designs. My iemagni however sounds fantastic But you can see schiit used some magic on it with their own circuit design. It does have a high end sound more so than the heresy. But the jot 2 Is a baller amp and I'm surprised zeos didn't like it more. His description is at least semi accurate for once But just very tone down from what I hear.

[@FiniteCS]

@@redleather420 Zeos didn't even exist on KZbin when my interest in audiophilia began, but he's the one that reignited my interest about 10 years after I first wanted to get into it. I've checked all the forums, I've done all my research, and that's why I decided to invest in the Jot2/Modius stack. What I said in my comment was that I just feel like it might have been a bit smarter for me to save $200 and go with the Asgard 3 since, even with the research I did before buying them, I saw that the Jot2 was better than the A3, but not double the price better. I went with Jot2 because of the different sound from each output, and this video made me worry if THAT part was the mistake. Also, who's to say I want to upgrade in the future? If I am to buy anything else, it'd most likely just be a tube amp/hybrid tube amp and that's it. Starting off this "high end" is so I don't have to waste money with upgrading. If I want to hear a different sound, I'll start with the headphones since that's what will most directly change the sound.

[@FiniteCS]

@@cobrabucket Oh, I know the Jot2 is worth the extra money over the Magnius, it was whether it was worth the extra money over the Asgard 3 that I'm iffy about. The reason I chose the Jot2 over the A3 was due to people saying that the difference between the SE and balanced outputs basically made the Jot2 like having two amps in one. Hearing people say otherwise is what is psyching me out since I don't want to get my Jot2, hear that the difference is so slight between the two outputs that it's not worth paying $200 extra for, and then be sad that I could have spent have as much for the Asgard 3 and been just as happy.

[@picapica201]

Asgard 3 vs A30 Pro? the separation/soundstage?

[@jxhnxxi6333]

I've have watched so videos on this channel, to the point where pausing my music with the space key on my laptop, and turning the volume knob on my portable amp/dac has me feeling like Zeos.

[@EverythingisFire]

Hmm..From an Atom (non +) stack, I'm wondering whether to go EL stack/Element II orrrrrr go balanced with a Schiit Magnius/Modious stack 🤷‍♂️ No idea which I'd want to go. These would be for my Sundara's.

[@jonathanluttrell1380]

I have the same dilemma. Z mentioned in a review JDS is working on something new. I may wait as I hate power switches on the back.

[@WeebHub]

was thinking of heresy + modi or asgard 3 with internal dac. what would you suggest between the two?

[@shawnpwatsons1]

I can barely tell the difference between Asgard3 and Jotenheim2 when I do back and forth single ended or balanced. I even have my DAC which is a D30Pro feeding a balanced signal into the Jot2. The difference is like 2% difference for double the money. Blind comparisons I would absolutely fail.

[@Nick-s-f]

Awesome review, still own and love my Jot 1.

[@redleather420]

would love to see you review IEmagni

[@teighan7829]

Schitt Jot can drive the HE6 series very well I've heard from various HE6SE V2 owners

[@TALPOKEYASHA]

I just checked and the IFI AUDIO ZAN CAN is a class A. Since I already bought the ZEN DAC at your recommendation (which I totally love, it gives the T60RP the bass it needed) I thought I would buy it and go for that ZEN look. Did you ever checked those two brothers together? I remember you made a video about the ZEN CAN and you did mentioned the ZEN DAC but I didn't heard you say anything about using them both together.

[@kwappy2538]

How would these compare to the thx aaa one linear? Esp now that its 150

[@ChrisStoneinator]

Can somebody make “audiophile KZbin channel but every time they make a schiit pun a laugh track plays”

[@josephlondon8188]

I really like the combo reviews actually

[@onguard7]

If I have all SE equipment and don't care about the extra money, does the Jot 2 sound any better through the SE output?

[@engolivecomau]

Not for me. I had both Jot2 and Asg3 and tried SE for a while before going balanced. Both sound good, they are slightly different. I personally liked the Asg3 better because it softens the harsh tracks (high female vocals sounding metallic/sharper). I have a mix of flacs and MP3s and listen mostly to pop, vocal jazz and edm. Harshness often comes down to bad recordings than file quality. If I still have both today and SE is the only choice, I would listen to Asg3 SE. But with choice of SE and Bal, I do enjoy the Bal output on Jot2 better (more impact and 3d) to my ears. Headphone- Focal clears.

[@william_fbd1534]

How does this compere to a a90 d90 or a90 Modius stack? Does the a90 mute the headphone output when you switch to preamps? Is the a90 still "the best" under 500?

[@joemacafee7655]

A90 does kill the headphone jacks when you switch to PRE. I swap between my Sundara and Adam T5Vs through mine all the time.

[@therazmatazz732]

Now Schiit needs to introduce a really good DAC in this price range with multibit, like the Modius Multibit everyone has been expecting since forever. A good mid priced, mid $1K DAC that stacks with everything else, but without measurements bullshit that nobody needs. Like $300-450. Still don't understand why there isn't a cheaper Bifrost DS. But yeah, a good multibit around $500 or below with small form but with the current USB-B input. Sort of Modi Multibit plus Modius form with the good USB. And charge 350-400 for it. I've also read rumors of a ground up DS, whatever that's about.

[@tcc5750]

Measurements matter bro, my SINAD is greater than yours. Jokes aside my Gumby multibit is great but I also own a china dac (SMSL Sanskrit) for when I want more neutrality such as classical.

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

R.I.P Chewie!

[@dangerzone8408]

"I was just going to yank it all off" phrasing BOOM!

[@arancourt5623]

I've got too much schit on my desk. lol, I see what you did there zeos.

[@mihaicroitoru15]

but, have u ever considered getting all your DAC's in a row ?))

[@pdcragin33]

Back in the days of carrying your boom box on your left shoulder, an audiophile recommendation was to listen to your headphones WITH a subwoofer. Gives one the chest thump a HP can’t. Also gets you a divorce. 🤭 Anyway, the rationale for simultaneous preamp plus HP outputs on the Jotenheim.

[@MrPokerpro1321]

I know you are a man of quality so I'm sure you are aware, but if you have seen the anime Violet Evergarden: Automemories I recommend it as it has one of the best soundtracks of any anime.

[@matthuston1767]

I have the ether cx I was looking for a closed back set for games and maybe out and about. If I didn’t get such a deal I was ready to buy a set of closed audeze. Haven’t heard anything compared to most of you guys.

[@jacobsteele7138]

Your like a character in a Woody Allen movie that they stop in his apartment for a short crazy visit.

[@CJNooberson]

FYI: Magnius only comes in black, no silver option.

[@zelenizub2036]

I got silver Modius and Asgard 3 this rules out Magnius for me. I guess for balanced option I'm going to go for xduoo MT-604.

[@ZReviews]

y they do this

[@CJNooberson]

@@ZReviews I know, confusing

[@CJNooberson]

@@zelenizub2036 Bro, I eagerly await Z's review of the MT-604

[@billwiley7216]

Power output differences between products is usually more obvious when you get up around 300 ohms rather than at the lower values isn't it? Many nice headsets can be in that range so only using the 50ohm value for power output wouldn't that be sort of misleading. I use an Asgard as my PC gaming amp where for that use I do not really care about having a balanced output with a set of HD6XX headphones and it is awesome for that use and not at a bad price point. Comparing balanced to unbalanced you should be seeing a difference between the performance favoring the balanced output if it is done correctly. For music I use a Mjolnir 2 balanced output amp hooked to a Gungnir multibit dac which granted is in a different price tier but still excellent for what it cost.

[@SharkWithADrill]

No high impedance phones need more voltage, not pure watts All 3 have more than enough juice for 300ohm+ loads

[@CaptHotah]

Hey zeos and guys here in the comment. Would you recommend schiit over topping for hifiman planar headphones? I got sundara and anandas and looking for a dac/amp now. Thanks

[@devinmatteson]

Topping amps seem too linear and lifeless. Schiit amps will give the music more emotion and better slam. Unless you just care about analyzing your music, must people I believe would enjoy the Schitt amps. Check out Bad Guy Good Audio Reviews. He has a Schiit stack and loves his Hifimans on it.

[@colinwilby8803]

@@devinmatteson I have a Topping D70S MQA and it is far from lifeless and it delivers plenty of slam.

[@joemacafee7655]

@@colinwilby8803 Same goes for my 90 stack...

[@devinmatteson]

@@colinwilby8803 Topping ‘amps’. I as well have a Topping D70s. I like their dacs a lot, as I prefer clean linear dacs. But when it comes to amps, I think for the majority of users that they’d prefer Schiit amps and other class A like amps over topping’s offerings. This all is subjective. What is enough for one person is lacking for another. It also depends on the cans that you are feeding. Topping amps might provide enough slam for your cans but might lack on others.

[@pointsofhonesty]

I went with this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWqxlqFmesuhnq8

[@AtomHeartMother]

I have Jot I and found the single ended harsh too, even using an external DAC. If Jot II single ended is harsh too, I don't see how it's really an improvement over Jot I. The balanced HP out sounds OK. I really don't use Jot I as a headphone amp anymore. I just use it as a preamp for my speaker amp via XLR out. It works quite nicely as a preamp.

[@Michael_mki233]

I have the Jot2, and can safely say that that is not the case for the SE out. It isn't harsh at all. It is very similar to the sound of the Asgard 3 according to the people on HiFi Guides that have listened to both. The balanced out still has a touch of that warmth, but is cleaner, more "neutral" sound. It's better to think of the Jot2 as getting two $200-$300 amps instead of a single $400 amp, because the SE and balanced out do sound different enough to warrant that line of thought.

[@tysontyson1244]

The Jotunheim 1 has glaring highs. This Schiit glare pairs well with the Hifiman LCD-X to produce an open lively present soundstage, rounded guitar tones come alive. The Schiit glare also pairs well with the Hifiman Ananda.

[@cisco150]

@@tysontyson1244 R00s

[@tysontyson1244]

@@cisco150 I had to edit my old comment as I said some bad stuff about Schiit because I was angry at the time. Schiit is not bad. Especially for the price.

[@richardgonzales5788]

You can yet the Asgard with a dac and the multi it dac. For 100 and 200 more respectively

[@shayan-gg]

Hey Zeos, could you please give us a review of the Zen DAC 2? It would be really helpful for me to decide if I buy it or not.

[@vinztheoriginal]

"Hey Zeos, could you please give us a review of the Zen DAC 2? It would be really helpful for me to decide if I buy it or not." Try it this way maybe you will have a chance.

[@devinmatteson]

Version 2 of the Zen dac isn’t going to be much different than the OG. Watch his review of the original zen dac, and add a ~1-2% increase in performance. I really enjoy my Zen dac OG and would highly recommend it for it’s price.

[@shayan-gg]

@@vinztheoriginal k copy pasted. m too lazy.

[@shayan-gg]

@@vinztheoriginal so upgrade from 8 core to 16 core is bs marketing? i was hoping more :( it is $190 in my shitty country.

[@vinztheoriginal]

@@shayan-gg You really have a shitty mentality. You hope people take time for you, when you don't want to give two minutes of your time in exchange.

[@Pepe-dq2ib]

Wait, he is on IRC?

[@naorl8866]

What headphone and amp should I buy? on 500$ budget for music and movies. I want quality sound with a low bass level (it's a must for movies and series) but not like shaking my head bass. for music I listen to symphonies, old rock, 60-90', hits, deep house, and more (yes I like a lot of types depends on my mood). and it will connect to a PC. and I don't like gaming headphones they sound like garbage. any suggestions? (also only from amazon) thank you :)

[@joshualee6932]

Asgard 3, 6xx

[@naorl8866]

@@joshualee6932 Thanks for the answer, I see that they have RCA in the back so I need an adapter? my pc have 3.5, S/PDIF, and HDMI so I probably can only use a 3.5 to RCA cable. but I'm worried it will lower the quality (now I'm using Pioneer amp connected with S/PDIF and 2 shelf speakers )

[@martinmedrano]

Asgard 3 stack recommendations.

[@joemacafee7655]

I have one running off of a Zen DAC V2 for my office stack, sounds great!

[@martinmedrano]

@@joemacafee7655 isn't the v2 also an amp?

[@joemacafee7655]

@@martinmedrano Yes, and the amp is decent. But in addition to the front side 1/4" and 4.4mm headphone jacks it also has RCA and another 4.4 balanced line out on the back, so you can either use the Zen DAC with a Zen CAN or any other SE or balanced amp. A bunch of us on the Hifiguides forum are running this config.

[@engolivecomau]

Very nice with Schiit Modius.

[@M.G2192]

I’m Running it with a bifrost 2

[@81Treez]

When Midguard?

[@shivkars7820]

Has someone thoughts or expieriences with the Beyerdynamic T1 3rd gen and wants to share them?

[@ixoye56]

My God, those fat pink headphone wires are the ugliest I've ever seen.

[@harackmw]

Dude, time for a bigger standing desk! ;D

[@yogiwp_]

Jot 2 competition should include the Singxer (price wise and class-A bias). Was expecting a comparison between the two.

[@dangerzone8408]

"They're all the same fucking brand." I'm sure Jason Stoddard would love to hear that.

[@lordhades9455]

Schiit really needs to make a new balanced tube amp

[@joemacafee7655]

Schiit needs to kill the 2 month backorders on their current product first...

[@EssenceofPureFlavor]

On the Asgard, unplugging your headphones turns on the preouts. Simple.

[@ZReviews]

I still don't like that system. Making me unplug and replug and then if you have the volume set wrong for speakers vs headphones bad things happen.

[@grandmasteraj855]

I didn’t get an unboxing tonight so I’m here watching a review I missed. Sigh.

[@Macc_]

Those are some rubber hose ass looking cables, holy shit. 24:04 I think the Asgard 3 came out after the Jotunheim 2, and is using their newer case design. So regardless of price, the newer SKU has the newer case.

[@tomriddle2257]

If single ended, I might as well take the Magni+

[@william_fbd1534]

Compering these to the a90 d90 or a90 Modius stack. Does the a90 mute the headphone when you switch to preamps?

[@joemacafee7655]

Yes.