Schiit Bifrost 2 DAC Review - Schiit yeah!

A review of the Schiit Bifrost 2 (Multibit) DAC including comparisons vs the Denafrips Ares II R2R DAC and the Topping D90.
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0:00 Introduction
1:30 Design & Features
1:58 Phase switching
6:08 The remote control
7:35 Latency of the DAC
8:59 Brief explanation of Multibit
10:34 Glamour video
11:36 Sound quality
12:46 Vs Denafrips Ares II
14:15 Vs Topping D90
17:32 Vs Hugo TT2
19:00 Final conclusion
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[@scslite5206]

Finally a review of all these 3 DACs! Thanks for your thorough insight and impressions. Great review!

[@PassionforSound]

My pleasure. Glad it was helpful!

[@soundpitchblack]

Yesss, waiting on your opinion on this! You have become one of my favorite reviewers

[@PassionforSound]

Glad I could oblige 🙂

[@mchlprz]

Excellent and detailed review! loved those glamour shots! your descriptions of multibit/r2r vs chip-based are really clear and helpful in conveying the differences. I've never used an R2R/multibit but I may consider it!

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Michael, glad it was helpful and that you liked the glamour vid! 🙂 Chips can be very good too, but I find R2R and Multibit to be slightly more enjoyable at a similar price point

[@lpspinners8736]

Fantastic job on this review! I appreciate your specific thoughts using comparisons of the Bifrost2 to other popular DACs! Awesome job!

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks LP Spinners!

[@sean_heisler]

That was a fantastic review! You really nailed the character of the Bifrost 2. Ironically back in February of this year I was considering the Bifrost 2, Ares II and A90 and went with the Bifrost 2 and have loved it ever since! I don't think there is a better DAC that can sort of "do it all" anywhere near this price point. Once again, superb review!

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks so much! Glad you're loving your Bifrost 2

[@frankfang4605]

Finally here, a great review. Got my BF2 last week and it was absolutely amazing pairing up with my Rag. The sound is just come to life compare to my RME which is a little flat and straightforward. Again, very thorough and detailed review here with the comparison to ares2 which a lot of people are struggling choosing between. Not a lot reviewers out there are doing dac reviews nowadays, very glad that you can keep making high quality contents with dacs. Please keep it up.

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks HOB, glad you like the content. The BF2/Rag combo must be really nice. I've always wanted to try a Rag 1 as a headphone amp, but haven't gotten there just yet...

[@SolitoTepic]

Hi, I'm sorry I got in. About RME adi-2 dac, by saying that it is flat and direct, with flat you mean that all instruments and details are delivered on the same plane with the same strength and force, without having much three-dimensional or deep stage in layers? or flat you mean frequency response?

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Erick, yes that word is a bit confusing and I'm trying to find some new descriptors. I mean 2-dimensional sound. It IS also very flat in terms of frequency response, but all good modern DACs should be. When people describe DACs as having emphasis anywhere, it's most likely the timbre/texture of the sound they are talking about and how it influences our perception, not an actual increase in bass, treble or midrange.

[@SolitoTepic]

@@PassionforSound Gracias !!! plana creo tiene doble significado, plana puede hablar de escenario sonoro, y también respuesta de frecuencia, por eso mi confusión, pero creeme lo haces perfecto, siempre lo agradeceré.

[@PassionforSound]

I have no idea what you said after "gracias", but you're welcome! 🙂

[@riccitone]

I so appreciate your applying the comparisons and qualitative benefits to specific recordings. Equipment pairing is one dimension, but music pairing is just as important. Super-excellent and informative review. Still deciding between the Bifrost 2 and the Ares II as an upgrade from an Airist r2r, but am much closer to an informed decision 👍🏼

[@PassionforSound]

So glad you found it helpful, John!

[@chrisz6772]

Just wanted to say thanks. I am a recovering audiophile from about 20 years ago and wanted to get back into it. You're one of the few reviewers that talks details about the actual sound qualities and soundstage instead of solely focusing on measurements which to me are mostly irrelevant marketing ploys. Thanks for your clear well thought out views.

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks Chris. So glad I can help a recovering audiophile! 🙂

[@jayem1826]

What's their name ASR? Can't stand that site. "Look how great it measures!" "I'm blown away with that 99% reading!" Like Zappa would say: "who gives a FCK?"

[@PassionforSound]

Yeah, it can be interesting to see the measurements sometimes, but they're a totally unreliable predictor of sound quality (e.g. Topping EX5)

[@chrisnyc3641]

Great review! Thanks for comparing to the D90 & Ares - those were the exact other 2 I was considering when I ended up buying the Bifrost a few months ago. Sounds like I made the right choice. I'm sure others in the same position will find your assessment very useful. 👍

[@PassionforSound]

You've definitely made the right choice, Chris. Enjoy your Bifrost!

[@cabronesse386]

So this is the Schiitty review, I love it!

[@PassionforSound]

Sometimes I can't help but talk some Schiit 😉

[@MrGezzh]

Fantastic review mate! I'm really enjoying the new review space layout too. Great camera positioning. The rooms looking awesome. Cheers

[@PassionforSound]

Awesome! Glad you like it and thanks for letting me know!

[@MrGezzh]

@@PassionforSound No problem. Keep it up. The channel keeps getting better and better.

[@hoangngo1927]

Your remarks on multibit/r2r vs normal dacs are spot on

[@PassionforSound]

Thank you. It's always nice to get confirmation that I'm not the only one hearing things this way 🙂

[@roverrich]

Excellent review. Your ear is very similar to mine, I had the same impressions of the Bifrost 2 and Chord TT2. I would add that the presentation on the TT2 is slightly faster and more involving than the Bifrost 2 but not by much. Keep up the good work!

[@PassionforSound]

I agree about the sense of speed and engagement from TT2. Glad we're hearing similar things (nice to get confirmation from time to time)

[@veritas932]

one of the top tier youtube reviewers on hifi who is not afraid to share your opinion. When asked to comment on Device A vs Device B, most KZbinrs will cop out and say they can't provide an opinion as they've heard Device B (ie. Dark.....) You gave your best guess based on your experience and that to me, is an A+ in my books.

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks, Veritas - I aim to help without hopefully ever speaking on a topic that I shouldn't.

[@kurthertel4299]

I have not heard the Bifrost 2, but I have owned the Gungnir Multibit (A2, if there is such a thing) for 3 years, and I really love it. I had the Modi Multibit for about 6 months before that, and immediately started saving to move up their line. If the Bifrost 2 had been out , I would probably have gone that route, but my dac is the one bit of gear I don't think about upgrading. At my budget, there is nothing I have heard for which I would trade it. Not to everyone's taste I am sure, but perfect for me and my 60 year-old ears. Thanks for your efforts, mate. Cheers.

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks Kurt. I totally get where you're coming from. My Gumby (using A1 board) was my longest lasting DAC until the Qutest and then TT2 came along, but it was a close call and the A2 board is apparently a significant upgrade. Glad you're loving your setup.

[@ychilds99]

Simply the finest review of the Bifrost 2 I have heard on KZbin. I truly appreciate your contribution to the art. Thank you!

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks so much, Awake!

[@songboek]

really like your reviews! well done!

[@PassionforSound]

Thank you!

[@iiWiReviews]

Great review. I've been wanting to try it out myself for some time now, but Schiits are quite expensive to import into my country. I just subbed, it's good to keep an eye on the competition, especially the good ones. :) Keep up with great work! Cheers from Serbia!

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks iiWi. That's the biggest challenge with Schiit if you're outside the US. I'll come over and check out your channel too 🙂

[@nc3419]

@@PassionforSound It would be nice to get a comparison between the D70s (which some claim has some of that R2R sound) and the Bitfrost 2. I have heard the D70s in my system albeit using rca and not xlr but compared to the dac in my hegel h160, the D70s was warmer and had more low end grunt but a bit less separation and a smidge less resolution. If the Bitfrost 2 has just a bit more separation and resolution over the d70s it would be preferred by me. I think the only drawback is that alot of Topping dacs can decode SACD and HDCD formats on discs which sound a step above Redbook CDs (when using a transport). Really enjoy the vids and your effort, it helps.

[@PassionforSound]

I'm yet to hear the D70S, but I'd be shocked if it's providing anything other than warmth in the sound. What I mean by that is that R2R DACs and Schiit's Multibit DACs present the sound differently. Whilst some R2R DACs come across thick and warm (like the Denafrips Ares II), the magic of these non Delta Sigma DACs are that they provide a much better sense of space in the presentation and a slightly more natural timbre. Of course, if you're just looking for a slightly warmer sound then please ignore all that and maybe check out the SMSL SU-8s. I've got the review coming out VERY soon... 😉

[@nc3419]

@@PassionforSound It's warm but bass is still tight. The warmth bleeds into separation just a bit but there is good detail. I slightly preferred the AKM 4396F in my hegel for resolution but the D70s was nice. A very solid step up form y Marantz CD6006 which was better than the sub $300 dacs I tried. Hence trying to decide between Topping and Schitt now that I am open to that kind of budget. The D70s is nice, but may be with us for a limited time unless Topping gives it an overhaul like they did with the D90se.

[@oleksiifilippov68]

That was a really good review! Thanks a lot for the comparisons! I have Gumby OG and I’m pretty happy with it. But I was curious if I should try Pontus. Now I at least got the companies’ directions (which I neither got from forums nor from other reviewers).

[@PassionforSound]

Glad it was helpful, Oleksii. I'm hoping to review the Pontus in future. It will have to be very good to beat the Bifrost 2

[@EnriqSandoval]

What an outstanding review.

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks Enrique

[@jayem1826]

Since I last messaged you I've given up on the Cayin RU6 and Denafrips. I'm looking at this Bifrost 2, ifi NEO and the Soncoz SGD1. Yes, all are at least double the cost of the Cayin. The Soncoz is available locally and that's a big advantage for me, but not the only factor to consider. Thanks for this review. It really helped.

[@PassionforSound]

Glad I could help. I've actually got the Soncoz here now and it's a great DAC. The Bifrost 2 is probably still slightly better, but nothing wrong with the SGD-1.

[@robcaputo9708]

Just an other great review thank you!

[@PassionforSound]

Always a pleasure 🙂

[@19Kettle93]

Ah thank you for this! You've mentioned the Gungnir MB in a few videos, I would like to see your review of that as well if you still have it or get the opportunity to get one. Great wrap up to a crazy week in the US though, thank you!

[@PassionforSound]

Sadly, the Gumby was sold to fund the Qutest purchase, but hopefully I'll get a chance to try a current version in the future. Glad the video was a welcome break from electionitis!

[@soundalpha6537]

Superb review, thank you!

[@PassionforSound]

You're welcome!

[@nickreecy4229]

Excellent review

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks Nick!

[@audioaficionado9494]

I wanted the Bifrost 2, but spent $600 on my balanced Freya S preamp instead. The $500 I saved on the Modius will pay for headphones and headphone amp. I'll upgrade my DAC after main amps and loud speakers. My ears are decent for an older guy. I'll see if this holds up for the next several years. Your reviews and channel are excellent. What the heck is wrong with KZbin for not reccomending your channel sooner?

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks AA! I think you've made a wise choice, not that the Bifrost 2 isn't great, but it would be wasted if you had to buy super budget gear to pair with it. Much better to go the route you've chosen I think 🙂

[@michaelkoenig8449]

Just discovered your channel! Awesome review! I have the Schiit Bifrost 2/Lyr 3 combo and absolutely love it! Anxiously awaiting the Schiit Audio CD transport.

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Michael, thank you! That would be a wonderful setup. I'm keen for the transport too. I believe I might be joining the beta test so hopefully I'll be able to share some impressions sooner than later...

[@michaelkoenig8449]

@@PassionforSound That's cool! Hope you have the opportunity to beta test the new CD transport...looking forward to your updates! Keep up the good work!

[@michaelkoenig8449]

​​​@@PassionforSoundHope you will be reviewing the new Schiit Audio Urd CD transport soon! Thanks!

[@PassionforSound]

@@michaelkoenig8449 they are short on stock, but said they'll send one from the next batch so 🤞🤞

[@michaelkoenig8449]

@@PassionforSound Thank you for the update! 👍

[@joontech7715]

Nice review!! Hope you will compare this with Composer 3XP in the future review!!

[@PassionforSound]

Sure will! Hoping to have a Composer here in the coming weeks

[@kjbiz]

Another great review. Thanks. Veering towards Asgaard 3 and this unit.

[@PassionforSound]

It's a nice setup. The Asgard 3 limits the maximum performance so a future upgrade would improve it, but it's a great start. I'm actually in the process of prepping my Asgard 3 review now...

[@kjbiz]

@@PassionforSound great looking forward to hearing it. Where would you go up from the Asgard then, for desktop use

[@PassionforSound]

I'm guessing higher level Schiit amps would do well, but I haven't heard them. Otherwise something like the Monoprice Liquid Platinum (currently on sale) would be a nice upgrade, but at full price you might as well go straight to the Burson Soloist for great performance. For something a bit closer in price, the Burson Fun amp might beat the Asgard 3, but I need to test that in the review process

[@kjbiz]

@@PassionforSound Great thanks so much for the advice it is really appreciated. Will start saving.😊

[@Audi0phool]

Nice review... as usual. Been having a difficult time deciding between the Ares II and the Bifrost. Now it’s clear... I need to get both. Well, schiitt !!! Would like to hear your take on the Loki as well

[@PassionforSound]

Haha. Both are good DACs, but unless you need the smoothness of the Ares II to tame something bright in your system, I'd just go for the B2. I'm intrigued by the Loki. I'll have to see if I can find one secondhand...

[@Audi0phool]

@@PassionforSound That’s exactly it... my system is pc > smsl su-8 > THX 887 > Arya ( primarily) and I do find it bright/ glaring with some music which is why I was considering the Ares. I also ordered the Violectric V280 and a pair of Focals. Awaiting both of those. So I’ll have some contrasting tonality with those I think. Just need that dac upgrade ( and possibly a Loki ) and I’m set. Was planning on splitting both DACs to both amps. With my setup would you go with the Bifrost ? Thank you for your advice. I really appreciate it.

[@PassionforSound]

I haven't heard the SU-8 to comment, but there's no doubt the Bifrost 2 is brilliant in any setup based on my listening. The V280 should bring some nice refinement compared to the 887 so I think you'll be happy with that. Should be no issues splitting the DAC outputs to both amps and you've got XLR and RCA outputs so you could also just use SE and balanced from each DAC too.

[@snowrang3r657]

Already watched on Patreon, just here to up vote ;)

[@PassionforSound]

Haha, thanks Snow!

[@triiiangle]

Great sound comparison with the Ares and D90. I love my Bifrost 2. Magical sound.

[@PassionforSound]

Glad you liked the comparison. It's a wonderful DAC!

[@locmanw1583]

Does the new Bifrost 2 have a warm dark sound with detail? If true that would be great!😊

[@PassionforSound]

I wouldn't say it's particularly warm or dark, but it is smoother and maybe a touch warmer than the D90.

[@locmanw1583]

@@PassionforSound Thanks for clarifying that😊

[@PassionforSound]

No problems 🙂

[@rossfletcher2724]

After hearing your Ïnside the Life..."video I took the plunge and ordered the Bifrost and the Burson Soloist 3xP. OMG! how did I put up with the old entry level combo for so long time?. Soundstage and imaging incredibly good and the realism of the acoustic instruments is exceptional through the Empyreans. For anyone, agonising over spending the money - just do it. You won't be disappointed. And thanks for your excellent advice, Lachlan.

[@PassionforSound]

So glad I could help and that you're enjoying your setup so much now! Without wanting to make you spend more money, I have a video coming soon about different op-amps you can use in the Soloist 3XP and it can actually get a little bit better still! (Only a little bit though)

[@rossfletcher2724]

A year on and the need to replace my 30 yo CD player, I took the advice of another YT reviewer and bought a Cambridge CD transport and coupled it to the Bifrost 2. What a revelation! Who said CDs were dead? A new musical experience.

[@PassionforSound]

That's great news! So glad you're enjoying it! Did you get the new Bifrost 2/64 or did you get your BF2 secondhand somewhere?

[@rossfletcher2724]

I bought the original from Schiit. From the comments there seems to be differing opinions on the 2/64. Given my vintage and state of hearing I'm well pleased with what I have now

[@PassionforSound]

There's nothing wrong with the standard Bifrost 2. If it weren't for the 2/64 the OG would still be my favourite DAC under $1000

[@wailwong8712]

Thank you for your review. These were the 3 dacs I was considering to buy.

[@PassionforSound]

Fantastic! Glad I could help!

[@schmagoogly]

Thanks a lot for the great review! I agree with all of your points made comparing the BF2 to the D90 as I have both. I prefer the BF2’s overall natural, smooth and lifelike presentation. Love your content, keep it up!

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks schmagoogly! Always nice to get confirmation of what I'm hearing.

[@jeffeaker4342]

I just ordered the Bifrost. I haven't listened to it or any of the others but I went on my gut feeling as to what will be the best decision. Sound quality will be very close to ares 2, but when you factor in the future upgradability and with Schiits excellent customer service and dealing with a US company. I went with the Schiit!

[@PassionforSound]

I think you've made a great choice and I think it's a better DAC than the Ares II

[@jdavis234]

Great review. Agree on almost all points. For the most part, I really enjoy the BF2. I did not enjoy receiving the wrong color but that’s another story. It’s so good with rock and pop music, but I find its warmth and weight can be a just bit too much for classical. That being said, if there is one dac that can do it all, I haven’t heard it yet. :)

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks for sharing your experiences!

[@kaneda7katsuragi]

enjoying all the dac reviews. I was looking forward to this one and the modius after your denafrips review. I believe the denafrips ares ii has the phase inversion button on the front panel as well. Is the phase inversion an audible thing - i don't know...

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Kaneda, yes, the Denafrips does. I didn't really discuss it in that review, but there was less to talk about with the BF2 so that feature kind of stood out a bit. I need to spend some time tracking down inverse phased recordings to see if it makes a difference. Switching it on and off on general content was subtle enough that I didn't notice any difference, but I also wasn't listening super critically at the time and focussed my critical listening on the general sound quality plus comparisons.

[@stevezeidman7224]

Best review to date on this product that I’ve seen. Ive been stalking this device for a couple of months and I’m ready to buy one. I’m in the US and late to this so I hope you see this note. I somewhat new to your channel and do have a question regarding how you test and listen. Do you use headphones exclusively when you do product tests, or do you use a speaker based system, or both? Thanks.

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Steve, I'm 100% headphones for critical listening. I do have a pair of Bang & Olufsen BeoLab 3 active speakers that I use, but not for review purposes as I find the headphones tell me more.

[@stevezeidman7224]

@@PassionforSound Thanks for replying! I’ve bought Revel speakers and they are very revealing. Sometimes they reveal more than I want and can be a bit edgy. My streamer/Dac is the BlueSound Node 2i and I think the Dac that is resident could be contributing to my issue. I know the Denefrips would make a difference there but I’m not willing to give up the detail.

[@PassionforSound]

Sounds like the Bifrost 2 will be a good match then if you're looking for smooth AND detailed. It's still very revealing so isn't going to reduce the revealing nature of your speakers, but the quality should be good enough that it won't have any harshness coming through

[@forrestp33]

Super video! I applauded for $10.00 👏👏👏

[@PassionforSound]

Thank you so much!

[@wyup]

Wow, your review is just what I was anticipating: between Ares II and D90, with a leaning aswell from Qutest (probably) and ADI-2 by extension, for its naturalness and texture, a Schiit trait. I also prefer that to clinical or delta sigmas. I guess Pontus and Venus must lead up there but too expensive maybe. I expect your take on the latest SMSL SU-9, I guess it is going for it as a delta-sigma with a warm tilt. I should be a reviewer 😅

[@PassionforSound]

Haha. Hopefully I can try the SU-9 in the future, but with the AKM fire I will probably focus on non-AKM designs for a while because stock of their chips (and DACs using those chips) will be limited for a while.

[@dustinmihalcheon5013]

I believe this is what I'm looking for gaming... Detail, imaging and sound stage. Good thing I have a Jotenheim 2 already!!

[@thehunattila1]

Clean, concise, and full of good information. Great work as always. Your timing is incredible as I'm currently testing out a bifrost 2 and modius to decide which to pair with an Asgard 3 and LCD2C/ZMF Aeolus. Still haven't decided even though I've come across many of the things you have pointed out like the bifrost bass/slam and 3 dimensionality. Other than the large markup, the bifrost 2 seems damned near perfect, while the modius is almost there even though I hate the micro usb. I'd appreciate a recommendation to throw in there if you are familiar with these headphones primarily playing heavy doses of metal. Either way, its nice to see someone else hears what I do, so I know I don't have some sort of audio-induced delirium. Thank you for the reviews.

[@PassionforSound]

Maybe with both have audio-induced delirium? 😉 If you have the budget, the Bifrost 2 is definitely the way to go. I don't know either of those headphones directly, but owned LCD2s once upon a time (not that that helps). The reason I'd say to go for the B2 is that it's going to reward you more if you upgrade anything in the future. The Asgard 3 is really nice (I'm using one with the B2 at the moment), but it will be the limiting factor in your setup so if/when you want the next step you can upgrade that and the B2 will still have plenty to show you.

[@thehunattila1]

@@PassionforSound I've decided on the Bifrost 2. AB testing is useful initially, but after having listened to the Bifrost 2 for multiple sessions exclusively before switching back, the differences hit me in the face with how flat the Modius presented certain songs. The best way I can describe it is that the Modius is a perfect picture taken or drawn by someone very talented, then printed and placed in front of you on a large, room sized, curved canvas, while the Bifrost 2 is seeing the scene in person. The picture makes everything easily accessible at the cost of realism and space. You may have a harder time locating a specific detail in the real life scene due to shadows or distance, but it's real. My wooden ZMF Aeolus have never sounded better. I would love to hear what you think of any of Zach's dynamic headphones. Those looking for clinical detail above all else may not like the lush, musical house sound but would at least appreciate the hand crafted, wooden, masterwork art that is the ZMF lineup. From my understanding of your acoustic preferences, I think you would appreciate the more neutral Auteur for opened or Eikon for closed (Yes closed. ZMF does closed very well) as the open Aeolus are darker and warmer in comparison. Thank you for your quick input and I look forward to the next review!

[@PassionforSound]

That's a great description of the Modius vs Bifrost 2 presentation! I'm keen to try Zach's headphones at some point. I've heard very good things about them and I'm all for warmer, richer signatures when done right.

[@thehunattila1]

@@PassionforSound Thank you and feel free to use it if you wish. Ha. If well-done warmth is on the menu, I obviously recommend the Aeolus. I'm rather sensitive to treble and upper mid peaks/harshness and the Aeolus just makes everything so enjoyable presenting all of the details in the most natural and pleasing way. I hope you can get your hands on a pair sooner rather than later simply for enjoyment. I'll be waiting patiently for the Asgard 3 review. You seem to hold it in high regard. Thank you again for taking the time to provide input.

[@snowpuppy77]

Really well done. New subscriber.

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks snowpuppy! And welcome 🙂

[@cihangirakyol4170]

Thanks for your videos. They are great. One request I have is if you could please review a Schiit Gungnir and compare it to some DACs in the same price range. Thanks.

[@PassionforSound]

Glad you're liking the videos. I'll chat to Schiit and see what we can arrange

[@Mau10]

Excellent Review! I just watched your series of the interview to Rob Watts and you mention that your reference DAC was a Gungnir Multibit. I been searching in your channel and I can't find any review of the Gungnir Mb. Since your are so familiar with it and the TT 2, it would be great if you do a comparison. Is the GMB way better than the Bifrost 2?. Is the TT 2 way superior to the GMB? . PD: great job with this channel buddy, I really enjoy watching this reviews.

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks Mauricio! It's a while now since I owned the Gumby and it's not comparable with the current DACs so I expect Bifrost 2 would be better than or as good as what I had. The newer Gumby is probably a different story though. Hopefully I can try one sometime. TT2 is clearly superior to the Gumby I had - miles ahead. I think the Yggdrasil is the closer comparison and another DAC I hope to try in the future...

[@stephenbailey9969]

Thank you for your review. I decided to try upgrading my sound quality with an external dac. (I have a NAD C328 integrated amp running Warfedale 80th anniversary Denton speakers with a Cambridge Audio X300 subwoofer.) I tried other chip based dacs, such as the Project PreBoxS2 and the Schiit Modius delta sigma dac, and wasn't quite satisfied. Your review helped me to bite the bullet and try the Bifrost 2 multibit. Your analysis is right on: the Bifrost 2 is clear, accurate, and gives good dimensionality, but it also feels very 'natural' and not harsh. That naturalness works very well with the NAD amp's neutral signature. I'm listening to music again, and not just sounds.

[@PassionforSound]

So glad I could help and that you're enjoying your new DAC, Stephen! Thanks so much for letting me know!

[@ndaniel63]

Thanks for the great review. Which headphone amp would you suggest to use with the Bifrost 2? Anything from Shiit or from another company? Topping? Tube or solid state?

[@PassionforSound]

Hi ndaniel, I've got the Jotunheim 2 here at the moment for review and it's a VERY easy recommendation to pair with the Bifrost 2. Unless you specifically want a certain type of sound, I'd grab that.

[@Elbenito84]

I don't have a Biforst, but I do have a Asgard 3 with the Multibit DAC card installed. Having lived with it as a digital source for over a year I can tell you there is a huge difference after letting it warm up for several hours. It sounds a bit cold and thin for the first twenty minutes or so and blossoms into being very tonally rich, spacious sounding and the transient response is tough to beat. I literally don't turn it off even though it has a non insignificant power draw idling. I'm getting very close to pulling the trigger on a new Bifrost. I've been trying Chinese DACs and keep returning them. I respect what they are doing, but I just keep plugging my heaphone rig into my main stereo in place of others DACs I keep trying, so I think it's safe to say I'm a Multibit guy. I've really been enjoying Schiit week, and I really enjoyed your interview series with Jason. Keep up the good work!

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks Ben! You'll notice significant improvements from the Bifrost 2 I think and it pairs wonderfully with the Asgard 3. That's my secondary setup for editing, etc. at the moment.

[@smckinnon]

Did you ever end up upgrading to the BF2?

[@blade1535]

Thanks for the review. Well done with chapters and easy to understand. I would love to know the differences as you go up the denafrips range. Does more detail prevail. Or is it more refined of the same as the ares 2. Eg lushness and smoothness.

[@PassionforSound]

Glad you liked the review. I'm hoping to review more Denafrips gear this year and I'm keen to answer that same question so stay tuned! 🙂

[@edzak7257]

Great review! I've been considering the Bifrost 2 & D90 as a step up to the internal DAC in my Parasound P5 (Burr-Brown PCM1798). I primarily stream Tidal HiFi but am not too concerned with MQA as I've heard mixed reviews of its benefits. I am leaning heavily towards the Bifrost based on your description of their sonic qualities. Would you consider this to be a substantial upgrade to my current setup? The only thing that's killing me right now is that Schiit just pushed the shipping date out on the Bifrost 2 to Jan 15.

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Ed, I just saw this comment that somehow slipped through the cracks - I'm so sorry! Did you end up buying the Bifrost 2? I do think it will be an upgrade for you.

[@gikigill788]

Hi Lachlan, great review as always. Have you tried the Bifrost 1 Multibit and would it be worth it to upgrade to the Bifrost 2?

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Gill, I haven't tried the Bimby 1, but the Bifrost 2 is (based on memory) even better than the Gumby I had so I would say yes to the upgrade. Bifrost 2 is brilliant!

[@alondite215]

Nice review. To my ears, where the Bifrost really pulls ahead of the D90 is in spacial resolve and imaging. Imaging on the D90 has that somewhat vague, "cardboard cutout" sound typical of a lot of chip-based DACs, lacking the dimensionality and coherency that give the Bifrost's sonic image its holography, or that sense that the image actually occupies a portion of physical space. I also found it to be rather significantly more resolving of both subtle sonic cues and volume modulation, as well as being able to better delineate harmonic overtones and present a richer, more life-like timbre. To be honest, I've yet to be impressed by anything Topping has produced. I get the sense that they care more about measurements than they do sound.

[@PassionforSound]

That's a great summary on every level I think. The measurement-based design approach doesn't really serve any of us searching for the most enjoyable sound so it's great to know that manufacturers like Schiit, Chord, Geshelli Labs and others are combining measurements and subjective listening to design products that measure well (perhaps not perfect) and sound fantastic!

[@jaynunes2501]

Thank you for another thorough review. I currently have a audio quest dragonfly cobalt but I’m thinking about upgrading to a desk DAC. Would the BiFrost to work well with a direct iPhone USB input and a headphone amp and headphones? Would this be a good option for someone who is only using their phone as their data input source? Should I look somewhere else? As always, thanks for your great insight and advice.

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Jay, I've not tried the Bifrost 2 from a phone, but there's no inherent issue with doing what you suggest. Phone outputs can be a bit noisy, but the Bifrost 2 is pretty well protected from that. Just a matter of determining if the phone will see the Bifrost 2. I'll see if I can check that for you and report back...

[@JPWinters]

Great review. I own a Bifrost 2 now. Did you try any other power cords? Thinking of trying a Pangea AC-14 or similar. Had success with power cords on my integrated amp, just not sure if this DAC will benefit.

[@PassionforSound]

Hi JP. I haven't dabbled much in power cords for quite a while and not with the Bifrost 2 - sorry! Would love to hear your experiences if you try one.

[@uterpia]

Thank you

[@PassionforSound]

My pleasure! You might also want to check out the follow-up Bifrost 2/64 video where I upgraded mine to the latest version. 🙂

[@TechEtrix]

Got my D90 MQA and A90 stack with a Sony MDR-Z1R and love the setup. I‘m sure I‘d love the spaciousness of the Bifrost, but sadly I‘d probably have to pay a lot extra due to import taxes. Also, I really love the D90 and especially the MQA part (I listen to Master files a lot and hardware sided decoding gives me a huge benefit in sound quality and resolution). Therefore I won‘t switch for the moment, but I will keep the Bifrost 2 in mind when I should ever be willing to buy a new DAC!

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Fabian, if you're largely using Master files through Tidal there's not a huge benefit upgrading to the Bifrost 2 as you'll probably find the D90 MQA to be as good or better when playing Masters.

[@TechEtrix]

@@PassionforSound Thank you for the fast reply and your opinion on that!:) That actually puts my mind to peace no longer worrying about potentially having done a „wrong“ choice even if I truly love the sound signature of the D90.

[@PassionforSound]

If you love it, relax and enjoy it. There are truly no right or wrongs in this hobby

[@TechEtrix]

@@PassionforSound You‘re right. I‘m sticking with my unit:) Are you planning on reviewing the Z1R any time in the future? Would be really interested in your opinion on those. I greatly enjoy them.

[@PassionforSound]

I don't have it planned because I don't own them, but you never know...

[@bpcarb]

Great review, especially the comparisons. Are you able to speak to sonic differences for the inputs, if any, and how that lines up with the Modius?

[@PassionforSound]

Hi BP, I can't remember if I checked and found no significant difference or if I overlooked that test this time. I'll check and come back to you...

[@PassionforSound]

Testing completed. There may be tiny, tiny differences in the treble quality between the 3 inputs, but it could also be a result of the different cables used so I'd say that they are as good as identical - all excellent

[@bpcarb]

@@PassionforSound Thanks for the follow-up. I have a Bifrost 2 and encountered similar - very slight, possibly due to different cables, and all excellent. My default is from my streamer to the BF2 via Optical.

[@PassionforSound]

Perfect. Happy listening! 🙂

[@Kevin.L_]

@@PassionforSound I was also curious about the inputs. Thanks for the update.

[@edzak4858]

Great review, enjoy your format/style! I've been looking at DAC's in this price range and the Bifrost has been at the top of my list. Your breakdown of its attributes vs the D90 & ARES II have kept it at the top of my list. I am looking to replace the old Burr-Brown DAC built in to my Parasound P5 and wonder what you think of that swap in terms of what improvements I could expect?

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Ed, without hearing that specific implementation, it's hard to say, but I think you'll find some nice improvements, particularly in 3-dimensionailty and soundstage depth.

[@edzak4858]

@@PassionforSound Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. The only thing I'm having a hard time with right now is that Schiit moved their shipping date for Bifrosts to Jan 15. Hopefully that won't get pushed out further.

[@PassionforSound]

Ouch. I wonder if they've been struck by COVID. It's a difficult time right now in a lot of locations. Fingers crossed! 🤞

[@edzak4858]

@@PassionforSound, Well, I was struck by COVID and actually took delivery during the 1st week of quarantine. I only had limited time to listen as I was not feeling up to it for a while. I installed it, did limited listening and left it on as you mentioned. So, last Thursday I was feeling well enough to give it some listening time. Unfortunately, the power supply had decided to take a permanent vacation somewhere between my last visit to trying to listen that day. Schiit was very quick in replying to my email and immediately sent me a return shipping label. I was able to pack it up and drop it off at the nearest FedEX location that afternoon. Supposed to receive the replacement later this week.

[@PassionforSound]

Oh no! That's dreadful on multiple levels! I'm glad you're feeling better and I hope the new Bifrost stays working longer. Between you and me (and anyone who reads this), my Bifrost died in much the same way. Hoping to get a replacement soon...

[@EricEngWalk]

Thank you for the outstanding review and all of your valuable contributions to this community. I'm planning to buy the Bifrost 2 to feed my HD800s via the Sennheiser HDV820. I'm expecting a significant sound quality improvement over the internal DAC- do you happen to have experience with this combo?

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Eric, I don't have specific experience with the HDV820, but I would expect improvements as the Bifrost 2 outperforms any other Sabre DAC implementations I've heard. Specifically, it does a better job of reproducing the depth and layering in the soundstage and is also smoother (more naturally so) than any chip-based DACs I've tried. You may feel at first like there's a loss of detail, but relax and listen into the music because I've found that the detail is all still there, it's just not pushed all forward in a 2D layer.

[@EricEngWalk]

@@PassionforSound Thanks very much for your response. I ordered the BF2 and will definitely be listening for soundstage improvements. I watched your (excellent) 'Top 5 audiophile tracks' video - is there a particular album/track you'd recommend for soundstage? Blackstar? Thanks again!

[@PassionforSound]

Blackstar is great, but also check out Yosi Horikawa's album, Spaces. Both are excellent to close your eyes and mentally wander through the recording.

[@photoipster]

I’ve been watching thru your reviews. I have focal clear mg and am looking for amp and dac. Would u prefer the bifrost with schitt amp, or Rme?

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Jim, I'd choose Bifrost 2 and Jotunheim 2 (or better, but I haven't heard Mjolnir, etc.) over the RME.

[@Moshm4n]

This is well put together. I'd be interested in a comparison with the Yggdrasil as some point.

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks Moshman, me too! Especially after Jason said the Bifrost 2 is his preferrt DAC (he didn't say it was better, just his preference due to size, sound presentation, etc.)

[@snowrang3r657]

@@PassionforSound Yggdrasil still should dive deeper into details as Bifrost 2 is 18bit (1x 18bit chip per channel), and Yggdrasil is 21bit (2x 20bit chips per channel). Right now the latest version is the A2 (analog 2) with Unison USB. But I believe Mike Moffat is working on another version of the analog portion that closer matches his own preferences. I think they said it's more of a side grade than a straight upgrade, but I'm very excited to see/hear how that turns out!

[@PassionforSound]

Jason did give me the impression that the Yggy is still more resolving. Hopefully I can try it sometime. It's great that they allow for upgrades over time with their products!

[@Moshm4n]

@@PassionforSound I have a friend who has one who says it's phenomenal at that price point. Yet I keep hearing Bifrost 2 being described as a mini-Yggy, likely because of the added unison usb, balanced outputs and other tweaks. It'd be interesting seeing how much Bifrost 2 can reconcile with the Yggdrasil.

[@PassionforSound]

Yeah, I agree. I'll get an Yggy to try at some point, I'm sure

[@andrewchadban8554]

6am drop. Early Schiit.

[@PassionforSound]

Schiit can happen at any time, Andrew! 😉

[@nc3419]

I know this is a step up and a different presentation to the budget Modius, but in comparison and regarding that glare that chip based dacs can have, ie, Topping D50s...is the Modius as glare free as the Bitfrost 2? Is the Modius as 2D sounding as the D90 or is there some depth?

[@PassionforSound]

I'd say the Modius is still pretty 2D unfortunately, but they managed to keep the glare / edginess to a minimum

[@engolivecomau]

I'm keen on getting an asgard 3 and would have paired it with bifrost 2 but the dac alone is $1600. Would there be better dac options at or lower than this price point (no longer at $1000 from time of review). Thinking of using these with Mrspeakers Ethers (red) and Focal Clear Pros. Any thoughts?

[@PassionforSound]

The Modius is probably the best DAC I've heard below the $1000 mark so far and then the Topping E30 would come next I think (or maybe the Loxjie D30). Neither come particularly close to the Bifrost 2, but they're solid DACs.

[@dirkdiggler2553]

Hello, Thank you for the great review! Hoping someone with more experience than me can shed some light on the following: Apple Music has started converting their catalog to lossless. So now I’m learning about hi-res audio and DACs. I have a very basic question: Since Apple Music files are all different (16/44, 24/44, 24/48, 24/96 &24/192), how does the Bifrost 2 deal with all those different formats? Should I be concerned that there might be up/down sampling, if so will it degrade the sound quality? I have read that it’s best to keep everything in its “native“ format? Thank you!

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Dirk, the Bifrost 2 handles everything up to 24/192 so you'll be completely fine sending it native sound. And you're right that it's best to do so. 🙂

[@Thevikingcam]

On STAX headphones, to be precise STAX Lambda PRO benefits from phase shift (STAX ED-1 EQ setting) it does widen the soundstage a lot and gives better instrument placement on the soundstage.

[@PassionforSound]

Cool. Thanks for sharing that, Cam.

[@chefsteve8381]

stax on tubes already have a huge soundstage, add this EQ and you will hear the sound stage in the next universe i did hear one when i was younger, but family friend who had it sold it before i could buy it at least i got his stax, i hear they are quit rare and i have not seen any for sale do you know where i can get one? i think they cost as much as the amp.

[@Thevikingcam]

@@chefsteve8381 ebay and hifishark are you best choise. But yes they are rare. Mine cost 900€ amp and headphones 750€. They are in top condition, like new.

[@chefsteve8381]

@@Thevikingcam thanks

[@mcnasty0322]

I have the bimby one and love it

[@PassionforSound]

Never tried a Bimby, but my old Gumby was great!

[@lrodefender90]

I’ve been trying to decide the best dac that would match with my LaFigaro 339i tube amp. Headphones are either the Beyer T1.2 or DT1990. What would be your choice of dac between the Bifrost 2, Topping D70 or D90 and the Gustard x16?

[@PassionforSound]

For me? Bifrost 2 all the way. The others are all good DACs, but the soundstage depth and natural tonality of the Bifrost 2 beat the 2D sound that the ESS and AKM chips create. To be fair, I haven't heard the D70 or X16 yet, but I've heard so many delay sigma chip-based DACs now that I'm very confident in the recommendation.

[@burg856]

Have you tried pairing the Chord M Scaler with the Bifrost and the D90SE to see witch DAC show the greater improvement?

[@PassionforSound]

I haven't. BUT I do recall trying the Bifrost 2 and M-Scaler way back when I first got the Bifrost 2 and the impact was smaller than on most DACs. That could be partly due to the Bifrost 2 not accepting super high sample rates or it could be that the Multibit approach is already doing a better job with timing accuracy compared to delta sigma DACs

[@midoriwind276]

Hi again lol, I already made a question about vocals, But I would like to know something important ,Do you find Bitfrost2 better for bad recordings compared to d90? I would like better behavior for my not audiophile grade recorded music, better enjoyement from them

[@PassionforSound]

I think it will be slightly better than the D90 because you're starting from a smoother base. The D90 has a tiny bit of harshness to start with so adding that to a bad recording will make things worse. The B2 won't completely solve the issue of bad recordings, but it should be slightly better than the D90.

[@brianpacheco1927]

Would you say the D90 is more detailed overall? I like my BF2 but the smooth sound signature keeps me from feeling as engaged as something like a Gungnir which is very dynamic in comparison especially with the bass. It sounds more liquid despite being a tad bit cooler.

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Brian, I've noticed a few times now that the DS DACs seem more detailed because they push everything forward in the mix and create a 2-dimensional sound. It's great for those who like to hear every detail, but it comes at the sacrifice of some soundstage depth, separation of sounds/instruments and (to me) realism in the music. Is your Gungnir a standard or multibit version?

[@connorduke4619]

Your reviews are great, can you assess the Holo Spring 3 Dac Level 2 ?

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks Connor! I have the Spring and May KTE on the way. Hopefully that's close enough. I'll discuss my understanding of how the L2 and KTE will differ when I do the review

[@chrisz6772]

When I was into high end two channel, back in the day, I spent three times more on an amplifier than the DA converter and twice as much on speakers than the amps. With the headphone setups it seems to be the opposite. I'd love to see a review that defines the percentage of overall effect from each component.

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Chris, I'm not certain that it works that way because everything matters and while I've also come across those kinds of "equations" over the years, I'm not sure they're helpful. Admittedly the DAC is probably the least impactful, but it IS the component which defines the maximum amount of information available to the rest of the chain so going cheaper here undermines high quality amps and headphones. I tend to break things into tiers so a budget DAC and amp (like Topping E30/L30 or Schiit Magni/Modi) is great for budget to mid tier headphones, but will start to limit the good mid tier cans like HD6XX, etc. The next step is mid tier like Topping A90/D90 (although price wise they're pushing towards the next level) which are good for mid to high end headphones (HD6XX through Focal Clear, etc.) but will start to restrict the best headphones in these categories. The same is true for high end (e.g. Schiit Bifrost 2 and Burson Soloist 3X) and then you get to the flagship/aspirational/endgame tier with products like Hugo TT2, Denafrips Terminator and Artemis, etc. which are the only types of products that will really show you what the top of the range headphones are capable of (e.g. Meze Empyrean, Focal Utopia, etc.) Not sure how I'd get that into a review format, but hopefully it makes sense here.

[@gerard3797]

Thanks for this lovely review and comparison again. Seems the only one that is missing from your comparison/lineup is the Burson Composer DAC from your own country 😉! I tried the RME adi 2, but it was too sterile/clinical for me and lacked soundstage with nearfield speakers. I ordered the Burson Conductor Performance to try out, so very curious how that will work in my system. Apparently it is a great dac, great preamp and great headphone amp, so killer combo device for the money. It should combine the soundstage of the Ares 2 combined with the detail of the D90, without sounding too flat. You can also tune it with the opamps to your liking. I will receive it next Tuesday, so very curious to find out how this performs. You were already very impressed with the Soloist I remember. Thomas & Stereo was most impressed with the Composer Dac, of al the “budget” dacs.

[@PassionforSound]

I have a Composer arriving in about 2 weeks I believe (along with my Soloist! 😁) Glad you liked the review and I think the Conductor will be great for you.

[@gerard3797]

@@PassionforSound Wow, thats a very nice combo indeed. Very curious on your take on that one.

[@PassionforSound]

I should clarify that the Composer is on loan for review, but it should be an excellent stack. Ultimately I'll be using the Soloist with the Bifrost 2 and Hugo TT2

[@gerard3797]

@@PassionforSound Yes I think the difference with Dacs might be much more noticeable on hi end headphones than they are on similar priced speakers/amp combo’s or active speakers. So the conclusions on a Dac from a headfi guy should be assessed differently from a hifi guy is my take. You would probably need an at least 10k speaker system to start noticing those differences in a obvious way. The room, position, speakers and the amps themselves all have much more impact on the sound experience if you go from let’s say a few hundred dollars Dac to a 1k Dac. I would argue a 1k Dac on a 2k speakers system is generally overkill and can even result in too much detail and sharpness. You can better invest that 700 euro in better speakers or (pre)amplification.

[@PassionforSound]

That makes total sense

[@tillespeli7652]

@Passionforsound Hey you make the best reviews! How much would you give each of these 3 dacs from 0 to 100 in warmth (100 being maximum warmth) ?

[@PassionforSound]

Thanks Till! I'd say Ares II is about 90 (I've left 10 points in case I hear something even warmer one day). Bifrost 2 would be right around 50-60 and D90 would be around 45 I think.

[@robcaputo9708]

Really liked this review. You compare this Bof 2 an other dac. The way you describe this other dac sounds amazing. Not the Topping or the Denafrips, the one you really like. But you say the name so fast I can’t make out the name. Which dac is it?

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Rob, glad you liked it. Sorry for not being clear! The other DAC is the Hugo TT2 which is a much more expensive DAC. I included it here as a benchmark to see just how good the Bifrost 2 is.

[@nc3419]

BTW, in stating you would have to twist the XLR cable 180 degrees, note the longer the cable the less stressful that degree of twist will have on the cable.

[@PassionforSound]

Very true. It's no fun with my shortish, solid core AudioQuests!

[@andymenendez7824]

Hello, great review again, thank you so much. I have been looking at the Ares II as my end game dac but now I think I am leaning more toward the Bifrost 2. I prefer the resolution to the smoothness. Did I miss how the Modius compares to this? I thought I was paying attention twice but I might have missed it. Thanks again. Looking forward to the Sundara review. Thinking about trying that one next. I bought the Sivga Phoenix thinking it would be better than the Sundara but it is a little dark and veiled for me, I was not impressed and I am thinking of returning them. I much prefer clarity.

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Andy, I covered the Modius vs Bifrost 2 comparison in the Modius review. In short, the Bifrost 2 does everything a little better. The Sundara will be a nice choice I think - the review is uploaded and scheduled for next Saturday 🙂

[@andymenendez7824]

@@PassionforSound look forward to it. Thanks again.

[@doctorrobin3040]

I bought the Aeries 11 because it has multiple inputs. I can run 4 input devices, I actually run 3, two on glass Toslink and one Coax. I have owned the Modius and while it has different input choices they are all different and will sound different. The Modius is a very, very good DAC.

[@andymenendez7824]

@@doctorrobin3040 thanks for the input Doc. I'm leaning toward the modius for now instead of my Onkyo's built in dac but in the end, i might want to go with the Bifrost 2. I've heard so many good things about the Ares II but I want the most resolving while glare free dac i can find for the price.

[@carlosa6148]

In your opinion, would the Ares II or Bifrost 2 DAC be a better match for the Liquid Platinum tube (hybrid) headphone amp?

[@PassionforSound]

I would choose the Bifrost 2 in any situation over the Ares II. I think it's the better overall DAC. The Liquid Platinum doesn't have any extreme character than needs particular help from the DAC so the Bifrost 2 would be my choice.

[@Mingchops]

Nice review as always (liking the new graphic effect too, don’t recall seeing that before!), few questions though. Inputs, any difference between them? Outputs, any difference between them? And lastly....should I upgrade from a Modius!? Cheers

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Richard, glad you liked it. Always looking to keep things fresh and try new editing/production techniques. Which graphic did you mean specifically? As for the inputs and outputs, I need to double check on the inputs. Outputs are essentially indistinguishable (allowing for the fact that my interconnects aren't identical). Should you upgrade? The Bifrost 2 is definitely better so it just comes down to how much you value an increase in sound quality of maybe 10-15% (always hard to put numbers to sound quality improvement)

[@PassionforSound]

Testing completed and the inputs and outputs are all identical (accounting for cable differences) 🙂

[@Mingchops]

@@PassionforSound Thanks for the info, I think it’ll slot into my setup very nicely!! Damn I was sure Qutest, but hearing how BF2 can not be a million miles from a TT2, well...that has to be high praise indeed! I love my Modius too so if BF2 is better again then it’s got to be winner. If you had to sum up very briefly in 1 line BF2 vs Modius, what does BF2 do better? I like the smooth nature of Modius, but I’d like some more sparkle/attack up top (which I incorrectly called roll off on a previous comment, but its just the slight lack of top end bite. And wider deeper sound stage would be a bonus. Also the graphics I was referring where on the product panning shots of BF2 and then it goes sort of animated, cool (and if you’ve been doing it a long time then it shows I’m simply not very observant!! But I hadn’t noticed that effect before). Cheers

[@PassionforSound]

I think Qutest might still be a hair better than BF2, but for the price, the BF2 is amazing! I'd say BF2 is just like the Modius with some extra resolution, greater sense of space and more 3-dimensionality for each sound / instrument. It's everything the same, but better. I don't think the BF2 will give you the extra bite you're looking for and I don't think a DAC should be any "bitier" than the BF2 so maybe look at other parts of your sound chain for opportunities. Amps and cables are often good places to start. As for the glamour vid, I've never used that effect before - it's new so you haven't overlooked it in the past. Each time I do a new glamour vid I try to see what suits the footage and the music I've chosen and just try new things. I quite liked this one too 🙂

[@Mingchops]

@@PassionforSound that’s certainly true for the money the BF2 represents terrific quality and it’s pretty much half the price of the Qutest. I like Chord, it’s British as am I, but... I do wonder just how much extra we are paying for the milled case and pretty lights etc! Have you seen the price of the new Qutest System Stand just released for example! Clearly there’s a good couple of hundred added to the Qutest that is nothing audio related, whereas Schiit seems the minimum and pared back approach on those components- and the focus is audio components only. It’s the TVR of the audio world!

[@krypto_9872]

Versus something like the modius ($199) is it worth the extra cost. The bifrost is ($699). I currently use a Magnius/Modius stack. But I've heard the SE isn't that great so I only use it balanced if can. I'm considering an asgard+bifrost or possibly Jotunheim+Bifrost. Since they have all the same form factor (length and width) I can stack them all so like a Magnius+Modius+Asgard (in case I have a headphone incompatible with balanced) stack. Or would it be worth it to have a quad stack with the bifrost added.

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Krypto, I compared the Modius to Bifrost 2 in my Modius review if you want greater detail, but the short answer is that I believe it's worth the extra. Bifrost 2 is one of the best value pieces of equipment I've ever heard. Performance for price is insane. I'm reviewing the new Jotunheim soon so stay tuned because I'm hopeful that Bifrost 2 + Jotunheim 2 could be approaching endgame for way less than $2000 USD

[@krypto_9872]

@@PassionforSound Thank You, I'll probably consider doing a Magnius/Asgard/Bifrost stack since i drive my HD6xx and HD800s fully balanced at the moment.

[@PassionforSound]

That will be a great setup. Enjoy!

[@paulroscelli2545]

How does this DAC compare to the internal DAC of the Hegel H390? In general how does one know if the internal DAC is “old”?

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Paul, I can't say - sorry.

[@nivsole0717]

I'm in the market for my first DAC and I been watching videos for months. It would be for a HiFi system that is driven by a tube amplifier. Would you choose this dac or the denafrips?

[@PassionforSound]

If you're using tubes, there's a good chance the sound is already a touch warmer so I'd probably choose the Bifrost 2, but it really depends on whether you want a rich, warm and spacious DAC or more neutral sound that's a bit more resolving and still quite spacious (just not as much as the Denafrips)

[@craigcoughlin1834]

Curious if listening on the Aries II was in non or oversampling mode. Much more detailed in oversampling mode.

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Craig, I covered this off in my Ares II review if you're interested in more detail, but in short, the Ares II sounds much better to me in OS mode so that's what I used it in for comparisons. I always try to choose the maximum possible quality of products when comparing them. :)

[@alexh5343]

Very professsionnal review ! I currently have a Violectric V200 with a Gustard A18 (AK4499), Nordost Valhalla XLR cable and Beyerdynamic T1.1. I would like to add a second DAC that would sound more organic but not too soft, are there currenltly any benefits of picking a Gungnir A2 with unison USB over a Bifrost 2 ? I also have my eyes on the Singxer SDA-6 with the "advanced" options, on paper this DAC seems to be excellent.

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Alex, glad you like the review. I haven't heard a modern Gungnir (mine was A1 & Gen5 USB). I know the Bifrost 2 is excellent and also much more compact and I think it fits what you're describing, but I can compare it to your other mentioned DACs - sorry!

[@alexh5343]

@@PassionforSound Thanks for your feedback !

[@PassionforSound]

My pleasure

[@tedmanasa907]

Great reviews! What would you pair with the Bifrost 2 to drive a Focal Clear with warmth and wide sound stage?

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Ted, the Asgard 3 is great if you're on a budget. The new Jotunheim should also be excellent, but I'm yet to hear it. The Burson Soloist 3X would be my ideal choice though.

[@tedmanasa907]

Update: I ordered the Monolith Liquid Gold X to see if that will do the trick. I’m going to compare the built-in DAC to the Bifrost when the Liquid arrives.

[@PassionforSound]

Fantastic. Please share what you hear!

[@donvittoriosierra]

Sorry if I missed it but did you describe the sound in balanced or single ended mode?

[@PassionforSound]

Hi DVS, I tested both outputs and the sound quality is essentially identical from both (accounting for the fact that my interconnects are slightly different)

[@superkev-ls4kn]

I'm currently struggling to find these on the Australian market. Do you know if it's been discontinued or has there been a product shortage?

[@PassionforSound]

There may have been some shortages, but it also might not be listed as Bifrost 2/64 which is the new version. You'll likely also find buying direct from Schiit to actually save you some money too so consider that option as well 🙂

[@rkisoensingh]

Since we are talking Schiit, how would you compare the Modi Multibit vs Bifrost 2? Both r2r. Put aside maybe a bit more inputs on the Bifrost, but is it essentially the same r2r meaning the sound would be comparable? Btw, great review! I really appreciate that you compare products head to head and that you take your time to explain the differences 👍

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Rana, I haven't heard the Modi MB to comment, but they use different chips (model and quantity) as far as I know so while similar, the Bifrost 2 should be noticeably better. The Bifrost 2 also has a "proper" power supply which should further improve the sound

[@paulwg2112]

But $450 better???

[@PassionforSound]

I expect so. The Bifrost 2 is an incredibly good DAC for the price whereas I see mixed opinions on the Modi MB.

[@autoexec5367]

I know the 789 is not a truly balanced amp but do you think it would pair great with the Bifrost 2?

[@CovertOperative]

holy schitt - wish i could get a pile of schirr over here in den haag

[@PassionforSound]

Yes. Getting your hands on Schiit is tricky in some places.

[@Coztomba]

The Ares II you just review also has a phase switch!

[@PassionforSound]

Yes, I'd forgotten. There was so much else to discuss with the Ares that I'd didn't go into depth on that one and forgot!

[@freespeech100]

At this point, I don't have anything to listen to higher than 192..... And I don't see myself chasing higher numbers just because they are numerically higher...... but do higher kHz sound better/different? Because if they do, then it seems like something that tops out at 192 is heading to obsolescence. What are your thoughts? (Ps I currently use Asgaard3 and modi3+, mainly classical, some jazz, occasional pop as well)

[@PassionforSound]

There's really no absolute need to chase higher sample rates. The benefits of higher sample rates are twofold: 1) it provides more room for the DAC filters to operate outside of the audible range and this can allow for better, less aggressive filtering. (2) higher sample rates may be better and capturing the timing of fine details in the music such as transients which in turn can improve the timbral accuracy of the playback. Personally, I think it's nice to have higher rates, but not at all necessary. Most gear sounds great with anything from 16/44 up and Schiit's Multibit DACs that don't go above 192 still sound better than some of their DSD-capable competitors.

[@jk25653]

Great schiituff! Do you think Bifrost 2's multibit tech is worth the upgrade from Magnius? I have a mini schiit stack (Magni heresy/Modi 3) for my desktop. I love the stack so much that I want to pair my THX AAA 789 amp from DROP with one of the Schiit products.

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Josh, I think the Bifrost 2 is the best DAC under $1000 from any company and maybe the best under $2000. I'd definitely recommend it for your upgrade. The 789 won't reward you with the full depth of soundstage that the Bifrost 2 is capable of, but it should still sound excellent.

[@jk25653]

@@PassionforSound ​ @Passion for Sound That's excellent! I have plans to add a tube amp for that warm, deep sound stage, using the SE RCA pass on the 789. Any suggestions on which amp to demo for pairing with Bifrost 2? I apologize ahead for nagging you with many questions. I feel that your reviews and guidance are the most helpful, in terms of directions I am looking for! Thank you!

[@PassionforSound]

Happy to help, Josh, but I'm not sure which tube amp I'd recommend as most of my positive tube amp experiences have been DIY kit amps like the Bottlehead Crack, S.E.X. and Mainline, all of which I highly recommend if you have patience and basic soldering skills. Beyond that, it gets expensive with things like the Auris Audio Euterpe that I just reviewed recently.

[@jk25653]

@@PassionforSound Thank you for your input nonetheless!

[@FliskerX]

Great review. I have Bifrost 1 Multibit and I'm very happy with it, would be curious if there is any point in upgrading to version 2. Also have the SMSL SU-8 Aniv. version, that should measure incredible well, but to my ears it sounds somewhat oversharpened and unnatural compared to Bifrost 1 Multibit.

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Flisker, yes, that's the problem with the measurements - they tell us nothing about the tonality of the sound, just distortion levels. As for upgrading your Bifrost. I think it's a significant upgrade based on what I'm hearing and my memory of the Gumby I owned. I believe the B2 is a bit better than the Gumby (USB5 and Analog 1) so it should also be better than the B1

[@FliskerX]

Thank you for the reply. Will certainly consider Bifrost 2. Btw love the interviews with Jason from Schiit.

[@PassionforSound]

Glad you liked them!

[@mtnmankeith9069]

What are your thoughts on never turning an r2r dac off? Or class A amp.

[@PassionforSound]

I tend to leave the Bifrost 2 powered up (and any R2R for that matter), but not the amp's so much. I've never checked the power consumption, but always assumed the DACs don't draw too much and the amp's probably do. I might be wrong about that though...

[@Grizzly1644]

Any chance of getting your hands on a Holo May? I suspect you might be in love with its sound.

[@PassionforSound]

I really want to try it, Stephen. I will email them and see what we can arrange

[@Andrew-cp7mc]

I currently have the multibit dac card inside the Asgaard 3 - I just wonder if I will experience a noticeable difference by upgrading to the Bifrost 2/64. In other words, as both multibit tech are from Schiit, how is it implemented differently as a card vs a discrete product like the Bifrost?

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Andrew, I haven't tried the MB card in the Asgard 3, but I've chatted to multiple people who find the DAC card in the A3 to be not quite as good as the Modi DAC. The BF2/64 is then a solid upgrade over the Modi MB2 so I'd say you can expect a very big jump in sound quality.

[@Andrew-cp7mc]

@@PassionforSound Thanks Lachlan. Got the message loud and clear.

[@SolitoTepic]

Great video, I really like your work and reviews, adjectives that you use give excellent idea of the work that each dac does. You mention many interesting adjectives for me, I only have confusion in one: Expansive sound. I understand it as being in a large room, where the sound has a lot of space to expand and be more three-dimensional, but to hear it you must be behind a few meters, softening the music a little and that it does not give up so direct, otherwise a dac that has no expansive sound, as you mention with adi-2 dac, means that you lose three-dimensional space , to deliver a more direct, energetic, blunt sound on your face as you mention with D90? I hope I don't confuse you with my text.

[@PassionforSound]

Hi Erick, not confusing at all. Yes, that's what I mean by expansive. Some DACs produce a very 2-dimensional soundstage (Topping D90, RME ADI-2, etc.) with width, but no depth. Others like the Bifrost 2, Qutest and TT2 create a much better sense of depth as well as width. These are what I call expansive. By creating this space, you shouldn't be losing energy and detail. If that happened, I would describe that as smoothed off (like the Ares II) or words similar to that. In products with expansive (or 3-dimensional) presentations all the detail and energy is still there, but there's better layering of those details in space versus a flat wall of sound like the Topping, ADI-2, etc.

[@SolitoTepic]

@@PassionforSound Thank you very much, excellent explanation, you made everything very clear to me. I really appreciate that. Seriously thinking about buying ADI-2 and Bifrost 2, and staying with the one I like the most, or both !!! it is a pity that in my country I do not get proof for 30 days with option of return, I listen rock, it may not be so necessary a 3 D presentation, but it would be interesting to have both and stay with the one I like the most, I will consult with my wallet if I can afford that !!! You're a good person, I really appreciate all the time you use in reviews, and in answering every message they write to you, that shows passion for your work, never change !!!!

[@PassionforSound]

You're very welcome, Erick! Good luck with your wallet and your decision! 😉😁