Fantastic! So much excellent information! Thank you Matt and Toby!
@matteocasentini47398 жыл бұрын
You three should make a video/collaboration together! Would make an extremely interesting video
@KnyghtErrant8 жыл бұрын
I'd love to meet these guys... if it wasn't for that pesky Atlantic Ocean! :)
@matteocasentini47398 жыл бұрын
Something over the internet like Lindybeige and Skallagrim did in Lindy's latest video about salt I mean. The ocean would be a problem for making a video face to face ahaha
@twodogsbob17868 жыл бұрын
+Knyght Errant Just think of it as a working holiday ;) I for one would certainly up my Patreon pledge to see it happen...
@Murdo21128 жыл бұрын
+Twodogs Bob I'd propose we put a task force together to head over there and kidnap him: bring him back and force him to make videos with Messrs. Easton and Capwell. But I've a suspicion he may be a bit of a handful.
@JustGrowingUp848 жыл бұрын
"They've been taken for granted,[...], we get used to seeing them" - look at them British boyz flaunting their effigy privilege! Not everybody has awesome s**t like that lying around in their churches...
@Williamstanway8 жыл бұрын
lol "effigy privilege" so true , I forget how privileged I am living in Europe, the access to history is palpable.
@JustGrowingUp848 жыл бұрын
William Stanway I'm also European, and unfortunately that's not true everywhere in Europe...
@KorKhan898 жыл бұрын
+William Stanway It's true. So many castles, walled cities, gothic cathedrals and Roman ruins all over the place, it becomes easy to overlook them.
@Williamstanway8 жыл бұрын
+TheFilthyCasual maybe not abseolutley everywhere, but surely most inland European countries have a fair amount of historical architecture and folk law etc to keep a man entertained of a weekend .
@JustGrowingUp848 жыл бұрын
William Stanway I agree, but in most cases you actively have to go look for it, and most people don't encounter it so often that they become used to seeing it... My original comment was mainly just a joke about how often the word "privileged" is thrown around on the internet, but seriously, for every person who passes daily near the Tower of London or Notre Dame de Paris or Moscow's Kremlin etc., etc., there are hundreds that might not encounter such things their entire lives unless they purposefully try to visit them... Sure, most citizens of Florence might be immune to her charms, but most people in Europe at large aren't that "privileged".
@MootingInsanity8 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to think of how important ritual is to human society, in death and beyond. I'm glad to see you don't limit yourself to discussing arms and armor (as fascinating as those things are).
@KorKhan898 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the whole cultural history aspect adds such a fascinating extra dimension.
@blxtothis Жыл бұрын
As a kid in the 1950s, church effigies of this type really lit my fascination with the Mediaeval World, I remember being horrified to see vandalised examples with noses smashed or embellishments chiselled away. Funerary effigies have always been a must-see when exploring somewhere I’ve not previously visited.
@Dumbo82348 жыл бұрын
I love these videos with Dr. Capwell, he is great at explaining rather complex topics and I hope there are more to come!
@markstouse33778 жыл бұрын
Matt, this is one of your very best videos to date -- congratulations! I think enlarging the historical and social aperture around the arms and armour topic is hugely valuable, and moves it beyond what can be a narrow, pedantic topic into something of broad human relevance. Well done to you both -- and Dr. Capwell's book is terrific!
@stevedunn55462 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant explanation of medieval thinking. I always wondered how purgatory came into religion. Buying your way out of it lol. Magic.
@GeorgeMoonie3 ай бұрын
35 years ago . My Masters in Advanced Analytical Chemistry (University of Bristol) . I analysed samples from medieval brasses across the centuries and the country . Confirmed the inflection point when the monumental brasses changed to gun metal, thanks to King Henry VIII
@knutzzl4 жыл бұрын
You never truly die, as long as you are remembered.
@Dftba_hitch8 жыл бұрын
The bromance between you two is strong.
@gideonwhitehead80628 жыл бұрын
Capwell and Easton! It's the best thing since King Kong vs. Godzilla
@Catsincages8 жыл бұрын
"...Balding and not very nice looking." Oh dear.
@scholagladiatoria8 жыл бұрын
Matt sad :-(
@SibylleLeon8 жыл бұрын
You're not wrinkly, though, so there.
@gdk77045 жыл бұрын
@@scholagladiatoria 🤣
@jeffreycierniak85364 жыл бұрын
Listening to you two talk is a treat in every single video.
@NotAllBooksSmellNice8 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video, Matt isn't only knowledgable, he knows what to say to best bring out Mr. Capwell's extensive knowledge
@thiagodunadan8 жыл бұрын
Capwell & Easton sounds like a comedy series. Amazing video, though.
@Strategiusz8 жыл бұрын
So they believed in some holy social platform with prayers as "like" buttons.
@kennethpryde9668 жыл бұрын
I literally laughed out loud on reading this.
@CottonPanzer8 жыл бұрын
You can say that, yes. Rituals, ideals, customs, culture, routine, and fellowship has always been important to humanity. People ignorantly bash on religion for simply being "superstition". It's not about the superstition.
@Albukhshi8 жыл бұрын
It's a funny way of putting it, but oddly, it's a pretty accurate analogy.
@stephenandersen46258 жыл бұрын
well, if you believe in eternal life, there is nothing different between praying to help the living than praying for the dead. only lifists would say otherwise. ;-) the difference of course an insincere or not thoroughly thought out "like" won't work.
@edheldude8 жыл бұрын
Having personal meaning doesn't mean it's not a superstition. This effigy exemplifies the typical belief in souls and the idea that certain rituals could affect them, their ultimate destiny, and/or change the worshipers' god's mind. Rituals and transitional rites are important to people even when they have no superstitious content, and often religions include them in their dogma. This happened with e.g. marriage and Christianity.
@Williamstanway8 жыл бұрын
CAPWELL & EASTON , sounds like an early eighties prog-pop band band , but really you are an early 2000s medieval history super group .
@Williamstanway8 жыл бұрын
I mean that in a fantastic way, I wasn't being sarcastic, I find KZbin comments can come across the wrong way sometimes .
@Paelolithic8 жыл бұрын
I was thinking more of a 70s crime fighting duo who get the job done by breaking rules and bucking authority. Or a local insurance company...
@Williamstanway8 жыл бұрын
+Paleolithic haha haha or a makers of fine Marmalades jams and chutneys .
@ChimpFromSpace5 жыл бұрын
The Law Offices of Capwell & Easton.
@kollow8 жыл бұрын
Where I live the oldest buildings that exist are maybe 140 years old. Cemeteries might have graves starting in the mid to late 1800s. There is some ancient Native American rock art but it's not easily accessible. As lover of European history I wish I had access to these places. I love that this channel gets me there virtually though.
@MaciejNaumienko8 жыл бұрын
Dr Toby is such an asset to this channel. More Dr Toby!
@KorKhan898 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! I could listen to Toby go on like that for hours; so many fascinating insights. I look forward to the next video.
@Yeknodathon8 жыл бұрын
Without getting into a religious debate, the church would have likely looked and be experienced very differently before the Reformation and later Cromwell in a riot of colour, paintings on the walls telling stories with drama; patterns on the pillars and angels and saints staring down, rood screens, incense, mystery and the speckle of stained glass in shadows. A place where the rites and creeds were not repeated in the vernacular, a place where holiness may be somewhat different from today. How would the effigy be experienced in this environment? Perhaps with more awe and wonder in the swirl and juxtaposition of the supernatural and the familiar?
@JetConvoy8 жыл бұрын
Capwell is such a brilliant guy and a great speaker. Love the synergy between him and Matt, cannot wait for more videos with both of them!
@blakewinter16578 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy these videos with Dr. Capwell. Thanks to both of you for taking the time to put these together!
@AeolethNionian8 жыл бұрын
The broken crossguard was bugging me the whole video.
@timinimification8 жыл бұрын
Same dude
@Robert3998 жыл бұрын
Someone probably broke it off as a souvenir. It's still a bloody nice sword though.
@Kwijiboz8 жыл бұрын
Same
@faeembrugh4 жыл бұрын
A lot of churches and their contents were damaged during the reformation.
@davidschlageter59628 жыл бұрын
So much better than ANYTHING available on the cable networks! LUV IT!!!
@AGermanFencer8 жыл бұрын
That "Capwell & Easton" thing alone ... awesome *-* :D
@humungus38 жыл бұрын
Utterly fascinating.
@MrEolicus8 жыл бұрын
Erudition and swordsmanship. The pen is as mighty as the sword and both go hand in hand. Cheers.
@keesjanhoeksema95755 жыл бұрын
Very inspiring info for a modern artist with a interest for Armor, arts and Ancient beliefs! Thanks Toby & Matt,
@gdk77045 жыл бұрын
What an amazing series(by that I mean all of your Wallace collection/Tobias Capwell videos)! Absolutely stellar! I am really surprised at how few views these videos have compared to the quality and amount of credible historical information they contain. I believe you should reupload some of them or make a new video directing new subscribers to the series. I have been digging through your videos for over an year and this is the first time I am coming across most of these. Legendary stuff! Cheers Matt and Tobias!
@ianthered92838 жыл бұрын
So what you're telling me is the lord this effigy is representing is basically a real life Sir Barristan Selmy. Nice!
@Likexner3 жыл бұрын
Why do you need a fantasy character to compare this man to though? It would make more sense to say that Selmy is "basically a fantasy version of this man".
@ianthered92833 жыл бұрын
@@Likexner Sure, I apologize for miswording my praise of this person 4 years ago.
@Likexner3 жыл бұрын
@@ianthered9283 All right, i will let this one slide, but be careful in the future, ok?
@Doniazade8 жыл бұрын
Toby is great, I hope we'll have a lot more videos with him :)
@bcpantea8 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this a lot, looking forward for more episodes like this, Mr Capwell rocks!
@Divertedflight8 жыл бұрын
I might be getting soft in my old age, but I found the long departed knight and wife holding hands quite touching at 27:03
@nancytestani14702 жыл бұрын
They are amazing…the ones in Italy are gorgeous…but this one gorgeous..not about carving..
@twodogsbob17868 жыл бұрын
That was the most informative video I have watched on this subject. It needs to continue...for accurate history's sake! I know you two are super busy already, having met you both a few times, but please, please keep going along this road.
@666Eva2 ай бұрын
Wonderful and facinating
@MoonfaceMartin888 жыл бұрын
Yeez Matt! Either zoom in digitally on the one who talks or try to look at your oppisite instead of looking around. Thanks for the great Video! Cheers
@carlosacevedo23068 жыл бұрын
By the way, we Catholics still believe and practice intercessory prayer. From Rosaries to Masses for the death. Don't know if other Christian Churches do too.
@99IronDuke8 жыл бұрын
Fascinating historical stuff.
@sportsboy55708 жыл бұрын
Really informative video Matt, great job. Would you ever consider doing a video on the arms and armour of the Knights Hospitaller?
@Bitemis8 жыл бұрын
Maybe Matt can use it as an excuse to take a vacation to Malta.
@sportsboy55708 жыл бұрын
Too right!
@zombieteenager0078 жыл бұрын
YES. YES. YES. AS A MALTESE PERSON I HIGHLY APPROVE OF THIS.
@Pompelipom338 жыл бұрын
I really like these videos.
@Valkanna.Nublet8 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I'd love to see more.
@lakewooded49298 жыл бұрын
I always assumed the person was vaulted under the effigy . . . a great informative video.
@davidleavold95606 жыл бұрын
They usually were-see my recent comment above.
@WardancerHB8 жыл бұрын
That was so interesting and insightful...many thanks you two for putting so much effort into this - and then giving it to us for free!
@Ofotherworlds7 жыл бұрын
This sort of connection to the past is part of why I love being part of the Anglican communion.
@5chr4pn3ll8 жыл бұрын
Great video. It always looks a bit strange when you both don't have a fixed target you're "talking at" though. Towards the end when you're just talking at each other it looks fine, I wish you did that throughout the video.
@scholagladiatoria8 жыл бұрын
Yes, fair point.
@cd212348 жыл бұрын
It is impressive how much very interesting content there is on youtube -- such as this. You do have to sort out the wheat from the chaff.
@233NATOMAN8 жыл бұрын
Really informative and much new information for me. Looking forward the the next installment.
@TheOhgodineedaname8 жыл бұрын
Was the guy embalmed like royalty and high nobility? I always found it curious how those guys had their entrails buried in one spot, their body in the next and their heart somewhere else. Was this a common practice or was it only reserved for the creme de la creme of medieval society?
@Sophocles133 жыл бұрын
@ 11:36 when Matt fully regrets asking "Why is he in armor?" Dr. Capwell- uhh bekos he's a ball swingin' king bodyguardin' land ownin' Agincourt battlin' goddamn badass whose grave we're still talking about hundreds of years later... sorry who were YOU again? Uh, mr eastin wassit'?
@Yeknodathon8 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thank you for sharing. Interesting to watch discussions that adds context to the practice of HEMA and opens a window into past times; so different yet strangely so similar to today. Fascinating, and done with such knowledge and enthusiasm. May be the videos will open more avenues for study such as shared and unknown material from viewers, KZbin is likely to reach a wider audience than a published book? Perhaps a video like this can be accompanied with other videos: the effigy > symbolism and iconography > the sword > the armour > the social life and status of the knight in society > role and status of women. Perhaps the mindset of the Medieval person informs and enriches the practice of HEMA? Hoping there will be more!
@ZiePe8 жыл бұрын
Heeeeyyyy the sidekick is back
@davidleavold95606 жыл бұрын
This is an interesting documentary, but a bit misleading as to the burial places of the remains. The corpses of those whose tomb is featured here were, no doubt, ( as cited in the written evidence), buried in the churchyard. In many cases, however, the remains were placed in a vault or sometimes a grave, directly below the tomb chest. This is certainly the case as regards the royal tombs in Westminster Abbey, some of which were opened in the nineteenth century. The bodies of Elizabeth and Mary, for example, which occupy the same tomb, rest in a vault beneath the tomb chest which bears their effigies.
@nancytestani14702 жыл бұрын
Right on..
@ironpirate88 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, looking forward to more on the subject!
@gorbalsboy5 ай бұрын
Similar to the Egyptian notion of ensouling a statuette as a focal point , a pair of grand lads 😊
@shrekas29668 жыл бұрын
this kind of content i like
@SarahExpereinceRequiem8 жыл бұрын
I like to imagine you going on a roadtrip to look at Effigies.
@finch45lear3 ай бұрын
Fascinating.
@azn5678 жыл бұрын
Dr. Capwell makes a very clear factual error at 5:40 in the video. On the contrary, medieval Christians believed that most people went straight to hell when they died, rather than the majority of souls being eligible to enter purgatory. Also at 6:20 he states that purgatory is a sort of void where a soul exists in a state of intense boredom. This is also incorrect, since the medieval Christian belief was that souls suffered greatly in purgatory, and that the pains suffered there are similar to those of the fires of hell, the difference being that purgatory is temporary and not eternal.
@def_not_dan8 жыл бұрын
Does this guy have his own KZbin channel? If not, he should make one. Very entertaining and informative. +1's for everyone!!
@scholagladiatoria8 жыл бұрын
He doesn't have time unfortunately - Toby is the curator of arms and armour at the Wallace Collection (museum) in London and also jousts competitively. He is also always working on several books.
@def_not_dan8 жыл бұрын
scholagladiatoria Ah well, looks like you'll just have to do more videos with him and keep all those thumbs up for yourself. ;-)
@gideonwhitehead80628 жыл бұрын
It belongs in a museum lol
@MsFlamingFlamer8 жыл бұрын
I love these videos. Amazing
@JC-Denton8 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Can hardly wait for the next video... :-)
@BigZ73378 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent video
@Kane8568 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video - can't wait for more :)
@JohnWiedenhoeft8 жыл бұрын
what a wonderful and informative video, thank you!
@irradix2135 жыл бұрын
beautiful stuff, thank god for luther
@MedievalTrebuchet8 жыл бұрын
awesome! love the videos you do with toby
@skykid8 жыл бұрын
So is CapwellxEaston a legit bromance now? If so just call me the FedEx guy, cuz I ship that
@MarcRitzMD8 жыл бұрын
call me slash fiction guy cuz I write that
@atticus65728 жыл бұрын
Nah, SamidarexEaston is a thing already.
@CarnalKid8 жыл бұрын
"I'm sorry honey, date night is off this week. Why? Because...because I'm going to Toby's house to play Warhammer."
@martshearer4988 жыл бұрын
Superb!
@RabidMortal18 жыл бұрын
Superlative video! More more more!! (and thank you)
@tungstenkraken29298 жыл бұрын
These are my favorite!!!!
@GamenRyder8 жыл бұрын
Great video, cheers!
@danielburgess7785 Жыл бұрын
"The medium is the message."
@lcmiracle8 жыл бұрын
It's the basis for selling indulgence, that's basically what Tobias was trying to get through to you people here.
@SedanChair8 жыл бұрын
CAPWELL AND EASTON *horn music plays*
@chefdontrun74368 жыл бұрын
Very informative, I enjoyed this video.
@MarcRitzMD8 жыл бұрын
you know Matt. Tobias dedicated a large chunk of his life to the study of this. You gotta wonder... how much time did he waste simply traveling? We already have the technology to create 3d images of sculptures with greater detail than a human eye could make out. When will we get a 3d, high definition database of historical artefacts?
Жыл бұрын
Very nice Video
@subbss8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, really interesting!
@seanrea5508 жыл бұрын
could not help but to notice the place where the tabernacle was.
@deusirae78678 жыл бұрын
Never thought about these things as being fetishes before. Nice one!
@Wolfbane1928 жыл бұрын
Huh, and I always thought they were buried underneath their effigies. I thought that was the case with a lot of the tombs in Westminster Abbey (Henry III, for example).
@knutzzl4 жыл бұрын
Almost like Egyptian region. Your soul in the afterlife is eternity connected to the world of the living. (Likenesses of one Egyptian queen where removed from art in several tombs of others to erase her from existence)
@gregi1125 жыл бұрын
great Video! one big Question Comes to my mind: 23:48: how can you argue that the effigy-carver had certain parts of the armour not available as an example and therefore made "Fantasy parts" like shoulders or helmets? the majority of 14th and also 15th century armour didn't survive, especially English armour almost didn't survive at all (compared to Italian or German examples). So I think this is very risky to say "this shoulder in this shape here is Fantasy"...
@problematic79936 жыл бұрын
if i can spend one thousand years being bored i can spend another ten thousand years being bored
@williamscherr41938 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you so much
@alexanderren10973 жыл бұрын
Honor the Ancestors
@sky4eyes8 жыл бұрын
just like it
@ExUSSailor5 жыл бұрын
"Capwell & Easton" sounds like the name of a 70s prog duo.
@lajospapp2588 жыл бұрын
16 minutes into speaking about dead people and chill, and he gives you this look: 16:01
@christiangudmundsson83908 жыл бұрын
Are effigies a particularly British Ilses phenomenon? I have never seen anything like them here (Sweden, granted I don't visit many churches) And if so, is it the same for this particular belief i.e. that the prayers of the living can affect the movement from purgatory to heaven and/or if this process can be aided by some object acting like a magnifying lense if you will? Are there effigies in say France, Germany or Italy?
@TomtensKanal8 жыл бұрын
Det finns en del här i Sverige också och syftet är detsamma. Här har du Birger Jarl tex: 4.bp.blogspot.com/-WKryizjve18/T1DBcohb9mI/AAAAAAAAADk/0ueuSA0GI5Y/s1600/Birger+jarls+grav.jpg
@christiangudmundsson83908 жыл бұрын
+Tomtens Kanal Tack!
@martindhw8 жыл бұрын
I understand that the focus is the knight and his kit, but not ONE word about the woman beside him. Was her effigy included in his will? Where is she buried? Don't women count?
@jobdylan5782 Жыл бұрын
oh heavens, no
@Wetcorps8 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, thanks :)
@WillJohnson1388 жыл бұрын
Which knight is the effigy made out of? He sounds like a good warrior, having been through Agincourt.
@elipadgett10785 жыл бұрын
Purgatory is s place of suffering where we are purged of the temporal punishment of sins. Hence the need for indulgences and prayers which lessen your time or that of a relative in purgatory. Do you even Thomas Aquinas bro?
@Perforator20008 жыл бұрын
Listening to Capwell speak is like, psychedelic, man.
@higfny8 жыл бұрын
Is there any examples of complete armours from the 15th century surviving?
@cosmasindico8 жыл бұрын
Love the video, but where the heck is that guy's accent from?
@scholagladiatoria8 жыл бұрын
A mixture of American, Canadian, English and Scottish I presume, as he's lived in all those countries.
@cosmasindico8 жыл бұрын
lol. That's a ghoulash if I ever heard one. It was mostly American but several of the words were pronounced anything but the way an American would say them. Great guy though. Wish I had that life experience.