Scholars Angela Davis, Gina Dent & Beth Richie on Why the World Needs “Abolition. Feminism. Now.”

[@7swordmary567]

*It's a miracle Angela Davis survived the 60s n 70s or AT ALL in the U.S. so-called "democracy"*

[@Frost_Trow]

Seeing some old interviews of her that were aired on tv. Her Revolutionary zeal frightened white America, was afraid they would treat her like they treated Robeson

[@jamberry8026]

@@Frost_Trow They tried to kill her in that beast!

[@ToughTitty]

The Universe is a living breathing entity. It knew humanity needed her around longer.

[@TVInformative]

It's because she is a woman. If she were a man, they would have taken her out.

[@FASBLAQUE]

@@TVInformative None of the Soledad brothers were convicted of those charges either so who you figure that?

[@ibrahimsteyn1254]

I'm in South Africa. Our reading group have been waiting for the publication of this book to help us with our analysis of the political economy of prisons in post-apartheid South Africa.

[@gregorygarcia7807]

Most likely, all the powers that be will tell you is how much money can be made for the Gov't on this hostage system of oppression. Ask Mississippi.

[@ericrobinson7184]

Half of human history cannot be told without a woman's voice giving it's narrative. Salute the Sisterhood!

[@hhheee3939]

The news makes me sure the movie "Dont look up" is so accurate.

[@positionadjust353]

That movie was incredible

[@marykayryan7891]

These beautiful inspiring women who wrote this book together make me happy. Thank you for being.

[@ALBANIAN4FREDOM]

What's wrong with Americans? Call communist leaders beautiful id no different than calling Slavery, Nazist & Fascist beautiful!

[@marykayryan7891]

@@ALBANIAN4FREDOM This is just patently untrue. Go read some history and then we can talk. Don't come to a battle of wits unarmed.

[@polarbianarchy3333]

Prisons are a direct necessity of inequality, the failure of social stratified dominance to maintain human life beyond fight or flight.

[@vallee7966]

Oooh….BIG words!!

[@bpalpha]

Great statement. Nice to know others posses intelligence in this world.

[@polarbianarchy3333]

@@bpalpha I had a copy of, Are Prisons Obsolete... I decided they were... but it took awhile to dismantle the programming and understand how to design a society that encourages human success, without zero-sum. Thank you, I agree, right back to you

[@polarbianarchy3333]

@@vallee7966 both capital and small letters, yes Val

[@polarbianarchy3333]

Val Zee can I help you understand any of them?

[@lisamillard1272]

bravo 👏👏👏 How a Society treats their incarcerated says everything about how their own citizens are treated as well, rats in cages versus rats on the streets not much difference..

[@itinerantrebel1799]

Help me to understand this. Incarceration, lack of access to education, healthcare, indentured servitude and lack of access to societal resources are men’s issues more than women’s. How does feminist ideology fit into this narrative on these issues. Seriously, nobody has explained the connection and it’s difficult to grasp.

[@noirsynapse]

Beth Ritchie explains it around 4:30 when she dissociates from carceral feminism that relies on more state violence to fight gender based violence for example. We also know what kind of offenders see the inside of a prison and those who don't most of the times. To me abolitionist feminism is not only about women's issues but a global one that affect the whole society, whether it's depriving families and communities from male individuals, depriving offenders from their voting rights and so much more. This feminism is radical in the sense it goes for the root problems: carcerality is one.

[@itinerantrebel1799]

Thank you for the insight. It’s been a struggle to understand the link between the issues that men face (lower participation in higher education, less access to healthcare and its correlation to substantially lower life expectancies, higher earnings but lower resource access, disparate treatment in family and criminal courts), and how it relates to feminism. Your responses helped to further my understanding. I’ll continue my journey and hope to gain more insight.

[@noirsynapse]

@@itinerantrebel1799 thx, I really hope more people of all genders can join in this fight against state sanctionned violence

[@22221mm]

I had the pleasure to meet Angela Davis and Gina Dent. Wonderful people!

[@Monkismo]

Before we advocate abolishing prison for rapists, mass shooters, and domestic terrorists, we should start with decriminalization of marijuana and ending prosecution for minor traffic offenses, etc.

[@kosmikprince6561]

Great broadcast! Living example of three exceptionally gifted women who are pioneers in the realm of activism, gender and civil liberties, not just on National level, but internationally as well. This book is a blueprint and it should be incorporated into the U.S. educational system. Congratulations Beautiful and Bright Sisters!

[@vallee7966]

Gifted in writing bizarre fantasy.

[@jamberry8026]

@@vallee7966 Shouldn't you be some where looking for a Black man to call the police on?

[@ALBANIAN4FREDOM]

Oh, wow this show how little Americans like you know your American history. Women like Angela Davis are communist leaders, and you are proud of them? That's no different of saying you are proud of Slave Owners, Nazist & Fascist leaders who enslaved & killed millions of people worldwide!

[@bl5752]

If we completely aboslish prisons (rather than carryout fundemental reforms say like the Scandinavian model) how do we deal with individuals like Derek Chauvin? Or Ted Bundy? Or Bernie Medoc? Or any individual that inflicts violence on others in society (Rapitis, Neo--Nazis, etc)? I'm not arguing the system is at all good at it right now, but there are violent individuals in society that society needs to be protected from.

[@brettgbarnes]

You forgot to mention BLM and Antifa domestic terrorists.

[@jimcarrington6744]

education Each and every time a human speaks, their thoughts are simultaneously BROADCAST in a much richer way than can be fit into words. No belief included, I simply remember before being taught verbal language. Language only enables dishonesty. Dishonesty breeds greed & violence. I could educate them, you, & prisoners, but your babies could also do that. The 1% are having so much more fun with their slave race.

[@lindamullins1446]

@@jimcarrington6744 What does that mean

[@vallee7966]

Can’t afford college? Grades not high enough for a scholarship? Go to prison; and BINGO! Degrees up to PhDs are yours! Sponsored by ppl that play by the rules!

[@jamberry8026]

A healthier community spawns less psychos. Also, Ted Bundy's victims picked him and not the other way around.

[@user-vo1ft9vn2n]

My great great great uncle was abolitionist Rob Morris and first American lawyer in Boston Mass. Sweet. Keep it going

[@coimbralaw]

Abolition of jails? So remove punishment for crime? And then what’s supposed to happen in any way that protects victims?

[@justinwarren8216]

The countries with the happiest, least violent citizens have prisons that are focused on rehabilitation over punishment. I don't know if prisons should be abolished but I do know that if they continue to exist, they need to be places where people actually learn from their mistakes and how to be productive citizens instead of better criminals. Most people who enter prison are going to come out one day. Would you rather they come out with a better mentality than when they went in or would you want them to come out deranged and volatile from years of abuse in prison? If you choose the latter, you have made the choice that will guarantee that those who are released will go on to victimize more people when they get out. By punishing the incarcerated with inhumane conditions, the general public punishes itself in the long run.

[@blirdy1365]

Jan 19, 2022. THE CITY, REPORTING FOR NEW YORKERS: "Four in 10 Bail Reform Release Program Participants Rearrested State Stats Show" City Hall expanded supervised release to create an alternative to Rikers Island and ensure defendants show up for trial. The number being rearrested far exceeds projections.... Under criminal justice reforms that went into effect in 2020, judges can no longer impose monetary bail against defendants for a vast array of charges. As before, they also cannot factor in whether a defendant is a potential danger to the community."

[@vallee7966]

And there goes public safety.

[@marlbankian]

Food for thought

[@cev12]

They talk about the pandemic harming women by confining them at home with their abusers. But the opposite is also true--the pandemic has saved some women by keeping them away from their abusers...

[@spencerharmon4669]

How?

[@cev12]

@@spencerharmon4669 by physical separation. not all abusers live with their abusees.

[@coachduke9323]

The lockdowns that harmed women were 100% supported by the left. The same party they support! Sorry but consistency isn’t a strong suit for these people.

[@cev12]

@@coachduke9323 Huh? How did lockdowns harm women?

[@coachduke9323]

@@cev12 , I m not they did. These guests have made a case that lockdowns placed abused women in the home of their abuser! Husband or boyfriend is the abuser . I merely think it’s odd that these people support the same people who called for and implemented lockdowns!

[@sarahs5340]

Listening! Thank you.

[@janineshideler4051]

The focus should be on education so this won't happen. Among educated people, crime is way lower no matter what these women say. Jails are way fuller with uneducated criminals, way more than those with a college education.

[@jamberry8026]

Because you live in a banana republic where money can buy the verdict you want. That's why rich criminals are not in jail. Once you face that fact you will be able to understand these women way better than you do now. It's not as simple as you want to think it is.

[@spencerharmon4669]

I think there's another correlation here you're missing... It's class, which intersects with race. You can't just "focus on education" without addressing the factors in people's likes that prevent them from accessing or thriving in the education system.

[@jamberry8026]

@@spencerharmon4669 She does address that in her rejection of capitalism.

[@publicdomain1103]

Only fools oppose a woman's touch.

[@amareshroy7732]

I am frustrated when informed about unabated covid in favorite 🇺🇸.

[@midknight1968]

Beautiful humans,fabolous Women. Thank You!!!

[@Jawshuah]

this interview lacks a distinct amount of concreteness

[@JD-ny3vz]

I love and respect all these women but I don't get the exact message their going for.

[@hummerwisdom]

The chew message but of course! FeminISM=judaISM=CommunISM..........ALL ISMS ARE CHEWISH!!

[@noirsynapse]

They're saying carcerality and state violence is not an appropriate response to what we define as crime and invite to think and practice abolition from feminist perspectives. See 13:30

[@spencerharmon4669]

It's about prison abolition.. Not too complicated.

[@noirsynapse]

@@spencerharmon4669 I believe it is complicated

[@hughjassle5876]

I haven't seen a gaggle of hens this clueless since I accidentally turned on "The View". In fact, the geriatric factor is the only distinguishing difference. 🤣

[@jamberry8026]

You probably just need your diaper changed.

[@hughjassle5876]

@@jamberry8026 Knowles was right. Leftists just aren't funny.

[@jamberry8026]

@@hughjassle5876 Yep! You need your diaper changed!

[@hughjassle5876]

"Talk sense to a fool and he will call you foolish." -- Eurypides

[@susanr1903]

It true ..she get away with being invovled with kill 4 people

[@chriscastino7473]

OMG, if I was in their college course I would fail. I think I'm pretty smart, but almost all of that segment went over my head. Maybe it was a bit too much Academia speak?

[@robinger1]

it's complete bullshit. You're too sane for this garbage. These women are such tools for The Man, it's sad.

[@vinniecasqer840]

Encarceation is about profit. Slave labor.

[@kathleenshannon8284]

unity is important

[@janetmatthews7973]

Here’s the issue….. we ask for the wrong things ….we need to ask for becoming full citizens of each state …. Which will allow full voting rights …. Then we can get those unjustly sentences out of prisons …. out of the schools and out of the government….Having the same freedoms as whites…..

[@vinniecasqer840]

Bio security prison lullabies for the people who live in eternal political obliviousness. A mindset that reality cannot penetrate.

[@mackenziedog1872]

Woke from six months concussion to a phone. Googled rolling stones for music. Keith took me to Mississippi. I been following race, and now gender and incarnation, ever since. I'm welsh, the language the Queen's Church of England banned, but cos I'm white I'm not allowed to say I'm oppressed. I did three years prison for what my prime Minister did, but didn't get busted for. I haven't noticed the pandemic cos I've been incarcerated by this private Island missionary private prison island empire, surviving on food powder and creek water like a bottle fed baby. New Zealand as the adverts don't tell you... I fell in love with my health administrator, cis I'm so isolated and she was fabulous, but they chased her to Canada, where I'd told her everyone escapes to... she taught me what love is, which is the best gift anyone can anyone ❤

[@515coldfire]

Hunger strike??? No wonder they request sandwich all the time as soon as they land in a hospital

[@siriuslyspeaking9720]

Economics id not the only factor in incarceration. Culture is an issue also. The level of poverty more specifically the lowest quality of life, in the U.S., which is one of the wealthiest societies in human history, does not explain the level of violence that exist in society. This is further doubling down on rhetoric that will only galvanized the Right. Show me where working class voters on the Left, let along those caught up in the cycle of incarceration will/can do to make the abolishment of prisons a reality? It makes more sense to propose a 'domestic peace dividend' to the public - to refrain from anti-social behavior, which waste vital and limited funds, and use the savings, for all the life affirming areas that everyone says are underfunded. Prisons and police have no direct life affirming quality to them. Those qualities are secondary or subsequent to their primary function. The need for them, speaks to the worst of being human, and what is needed, especially in this modern society, to survive and sustain oneself. The best way to defund and abolish the police and prisons, is to make them largely necessary. Where is the proactive-ness on the Left? Is Russian at the border with Ukraine, because there has never been a proactive peace movement? We will never know. Being against war, is not the same as being for peace. Being against prisons and police, is not the same as being for justice and peace/order in society. Will there be another civil war, because we were not proactive for civility and socialistic living and governing? The living it must come before the governing of it.

[@spencerharmon4669]

Yeah, toxic masculinity has to go.

[@hummerwisdom]

The chews and their effing-ISMS!!

[@spencerharmon4669]

Look a racist!

[@robroy7456]

Victims..what about them..the traditional victims?

[@gregorygarcia7807]

I remember Angela Davis in the 1960's. She was a firebrand. Now she speaks with a snobbish affectation. Bring back the firebrand or, at least, Maya Angelo. From a male born in 1960 with a "hispanic sir name". My mom was Irish. All sides are/were racist. All are/were, still, ready to torcher anyone who disagrees. post-"democratic" american news tid-bit.

[@jamberry8026]

You mean you liked Dr. Davis when she had less knowledge!

[@spencerharmon4669]

What do you think you sound like? Angela sounds like someone who knows what she's talking about. You sound judgy.

[@larrydean8160]

Feminine Goddess HEROS :)

[@edenswaterislife9214]

The Natural woman is the spirit of Mama Nature who gave man purpose to create a fruitful paradise and life with her in the earth and his wife. Many men and women invite in the holy spirit. Now he is creating with man in woman. They deny the spirit in woman and the earth, with the intention of placing their mother in Mama's place. Mother made of men meaning matter. They call the earth mother nature. The innocent call on Mama when they are hungary. Her milk is as sweet as honey. This is Mama's world! Not theirs mothers who is also their father.

[@katiepower15]

There are lots of laws that need to be abolished and reforms made. Only people who are so out of touch with reality and basic human nature could say something so incredibly stupid as abolish prisons and the police. I would absolutely love to see Dr. Davis debate any remotely serious person on the issue.

[@vallee7966]

Incredibly stupid, ridiculously naïve and totally laughable. What a waste of time this segment was. Amy is losing it.

[@jamberry8026]

How come you can't evolve and think outside of imperialistic capitalism? If you clean up your brain and get rid of all that brainwash you could see and think outside of your indoctrination.

[@spencerharmon4669]

@@5british5 they literally cited the book right there lol. Go fucking read it.

[@YogGroove]

At first, I thought the thumbnail said, "Abolish Feminism Now" Unfortunately, Democacy Now is not so Conscious.

[@spencerharmon4669]

I thought the same thing, but you're an idiot.

[@mustafabinsober1248]

Angela Davis still crazy after all these years

[@SOULRELIEF22]

GOD'S BOOKS ARE VERY IMPORTANT! "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." Revelation 20:15! REPENT and RECEIVE JESUS as ypur LORD and SAVIOUR to have your name secured in His Book of Life! "If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed." John 8:36!

[@SOULRELIEF22]

"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools," Romans 1:22! "For this cause God gave them up to vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature." Romans 1 :26! Woe!

[@SOULRELIEF22]

"And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient." Romans 1:28! May the LORD have mercy and deliver any who are not yet reprobate! In the name of JESUS...because there is NO HOPE for the reprobate!

[@positionadjust353]

That’s it! I am out!…..imagine Black woman talking about feminism!

[@lindamullins1446]

What do you mean?

[@positionadjust353]

@@lindamullins1446 Hello?

[@jamberry8026]

I knew it! You're a Black man who doesn't know you're also a misogynist!

[@xcognegr005]

@@jamberry8026 Leave that white woman talk of misogynie at the door. Feminism was meant to break up the black man and wblack woman. And everybody knows that as a fact now. When was the last time you saw white woen fighting for voting rights after 1920? NEVER.

[@spencerharmon4669]

Yall need to read bell hooks. Jfc

[@lordmask3722]

Blah, blah, blah. Keep those SKNUP in jail. Don’t do the crime, if you can’t do the time. Keep striking by not eating. You’ll be okay if you get the sniffles.

[@hummerwisdom]

👎👎👎

[@downtoearth303]

They say a bucket of Churches chicken can end any hunger strike

[@jamberry8026]

They also say that liking your own comment is the same as licking your own ass!

[@spencerharmon4669]

Look a racist!

[@janineshideler4051]

The focus should be on education so this won't happen. Among educated people, crime is way lower no matter what these women say. Jails are way fuller with uneducated criminals, way more than those with a college education.

[@sashao.1534]

The focus should be on abolishing prisons. America doesn’t care about rehabilitation solely profits. And the poor and uneducated are always the victims. We should be thinking about a society outside of capitalism.

[@jamberry8026]

@@sashao.1534 Ooops! You went a little too deep for them. These rich corps and banks have made it almost criminal to speak against capitalism while they practice socialism among themselves with our tax dollars while excluding the tax payer from the same process. Those big bail outs they get when they gamble and fail are nothing but a socialist procedure that's in the closet so to speak, but we dare not say that.

[@coachduke9323]

@@sashao.1534 Abolishing prisons is a ridiculous idea it’s pure fantasy zero reality. If you believe that an individual is born pure and society creates the individual to commit crime than I understand why you would think so. Reality is not in line with your beliefs. Bad people exist and in a society they will always have to be removed from the group less they injure, kill , steal from others who don’t. History has no examples of the future you seek. Socialism has proven to have a negative influence on the minds of the people. Reform and change to the system is the only option and it’s long overdue. What’s been the biggest obstacle, there’s no single one rather it’s a big problem and the solutions are not going to be easy or simple to solve. There’s been an acceptable level of criminal behavior that our society has been willing to accept. That’s a debate in itself, zero tolerance is not acceptable to anyone on any side. So what is the acceptable level of crime for our country? Start there Then the next question is what are the methods available to achieve this goal? Honestly, these two have never been agreed upon by enough people to make a radical change in how we handle crime. This is reality not the case where you started