Science is Sick BUT... | Science Skills Analysis & Tier List | Starfield Handbook

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UncleMumble

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I put all 16 science skills in Starfield to the test and it boasts some of the best skills in the game, barring these awful exceptions... Here are the results, complete tier list included.
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00:00 Intro
00:25 Astrodynamics
01:52 Geology
02:51 Medicine
03:56 Research
05:16 Surveying
06:17 Botany
07:40 Zoology
09:13 Scanning
10:49 Spacesuit Design
11:39 Weapon Engineering
12:44 Astrophysics
14:24 Chemistry
16:25 Outpost Engineering
17:45 Aneutronic Fusion
18:19 Planetary Habitation
20:13 Special Projects
21:42 Wrap Up & Conclusions
23:37 Outro

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@unclemumble
@unclemumble 8 ай бұрын
What skill tree have you put the most points into so far in Starfield? Any regrets? Important edits: 1. @Diablo12369 brought up a great point I forgot to mention around spacesuit design. You should NOT bother putting a 4th point into the skill as it does not unlock anything new, it only has a chance to save materials which is next to useless given how infrequently you'll upgrade equipment. 3 is the sweet spot, 4 is for people over level 300 with nothing left to spend points on. 2. Outpost cap is actually 24 not 22 and you start with 8. My dumb ass neglected the fact that I had 2 outposts already set up when I was testing on that save. Thanks @rekalty4477 for the catch there!
@evanpage2540
@evanpage2540 8 ай бұрын
Just unlocked level 4 fitness this morning before work. I regret the amount of time I sank into it because the other day I got a magic space power that straight up refills all of my O2. I ran so hard and got so far, but in the end it doesn't even matter...
@Ulgroth
@Ulgroth 8 ай бұрын
Did u ever test geo skill with elemental pull?
@unclemumble
@unclemumble 8 ай бұрын
@@Ulgroth a great question, I thought about it but ultimately didn't bother given how niche it's use would be (though it is kind of op for caelumite deposits). It's so easy to get the 500 resource achievement and still just buy starter resources that the geology benefit would be neglibile even with elemental pull. I'd put money on it working though
@Ulgroth
@Ulgroth 8 ай бұрын
@@unclemumble i figured its prbly not worth it too but sometimes bethesda games have weird interactions. Curious if it would bug out and work too good or just not work at all.
@Pure_Havoc
@Pure_Havoc 8 ай бұрын
Definitely Tech & Science tree. I focus on maximizing my ship first.
@purplen33t17
@purplen33t17 8 ай бұрын
My favorite starfield content tbh
@benhaney9629
@benhaney9629 8 ай бұрын
Yup he’s actually putting in the work and telling us stuff we don’t know. If I have one more channel tell me “secrets” in Starfield that include stuff like hold down aim when using the cutter for more power of that you can cut down doors that say you can cut them down…
@justindangersmith
@justindangersmith 8 ай бұрын
Hands down. Other content creators are making content based off the first two hours and it's garbage
@reportmelolz
@reportmelolz 8 ай бұрын
Saw a guide “explaining every skill point in depth” and I skipped to Outpost Engineering cause I wanted to see what modules it unlocks and they just read the description and said “yea so this is really good if you’re building outposts” like wow homie thanks
@lukastrippel669
@lukastrippel669 8 ай бұрын
So true it’s awesome !
@xNinjaJesuz
@xNinjaJesuz 8 ай бұрын
facts
@nasifarefin2278
@nasifarefin2278 8 ай бұрын
During your zoology description, you mentioned that it is difficult to find the smaller critters. They are scavengers. Kill a lot of other creatures, go like 50 meters away for a little while, and then come back near the corpses again. You'll find these creatures have spawned in. They are also excellent for ranking up your sneak and concealment skills.
@pdraggy
@pdraggy 8 ай бұрын
you might also find them in caves, it's been my experience anyway...
@danjal87nl
@danjal87nl 8 ай бұрын
The difficult to find ones are the fish that are claimed to be in multiple biomes but then are only in very specific coastal variants of that biome and even then you might have to run across half the zone to even get to water. >_>
@nasifarefin2278
@nasifarefin2278 8 ай бұрын
@@danjal87nl Here's a tip, whenever you land on a planet which has fauna in the Ocean Biome, land on the Coastal variations of all the different biomes you need to survey. It's advantageous in multiple ways: you can survey the aquatic fauna, coastal biomes (at least for me) have a respectable spawn rate which makes it easier to survey the fauna in the biome you landed on, and you only need to worry about surveying 3 sides from your landing spot as the ocean occupies one of the slots, so you have to travel less usually to find everything.
@jameshumphrey869
@jameshumphrey869 7 ай бұрын
u are my hero this has been driving me mad
@shamrock3957
@shamrock3957 2 ай бұрын
5 months late and you may have discovered this yourself by now, but for the little critters if you find a cave there's usually a dead one in it that you can scan. Scan it, leave cave go back in and you can scan it again.
@cellulanus
@cellulanus 8 ай бұрын
The Med skill actually unlocked a lot of dialog skill checks. I'd rank it higher.
@unclemumble
@unclemumble 8 ай бұрын
A reasonable but common misconception is that it's not just certain skills that provide dialogue checks but in fact EVERY skill provides unique dialogue. They're almost always flavour, save for a few in actual persuasion instances. I wouldn't say any are common enough to justify ranking it any higher than they currently are but I do encourage a single point in every skill so that you don't miss out on some cool interactions!
@thevoxdeus
@thevoxdeus 8 ай бұрын
What was the tangible benefit of those dialog choices? How much did it really help?
@nihan8554
@nihan8554 8 ай бұрын
@@thevoxdeus Pretty much just added flavor to the dialogue option more or less in my experience.
@Skyblade12
@Skyblade12 8 ай бұрын
@@unclemumble I would love a breakdown of the number of dialogues per skill. Some haven't given me any (I haven't gotten a single line of dialogue from the Combat skills yet, though I hear there's one for dueling in the Ryujin quest line), while others, like Medicine or Ship Design, have given me quite a few.
@BaeBunni
@BaeBunni 8 ай бұрын
your rank in a skill doesn't improve it the dialogue so putting one point in is as good as having 4 for dialogue purposes.
@Sohexmetphospha
@Sohexmetphospha 8 ай бұрын
Harvesting from living animals only seems to work on some of them, but it definitely is functional. If they're a valid target when you walk up to them you'll get the normal 'harvest' popup.
@davepeesthepool
@davepeesthepool 8 ай бұрын
Your scanner information window will indicate animals that can be nonlethal harvested, it's listed around the same place where it will tell if you if an animal is able to be domesticated or not.
@Ulgroth
@Ulgroth 8 ай бұрын
u can also just see it by holding the scanner over creatures
@ah64jimbo81
@ah64jimbo81 8 ай бұрын
What they said above. To be clear, only select creatures will have the non-lethal harvest attribute, which can be discovered using your hand scanner.
@jonathangwilliams6825
@jonathangwilliams6825 7 ай бұрын
I could only manage to get it to work on the creatures that spawned close to my husbandry facilities in my base, personally.
@Izzy-sj3ck
@Izzy-sj3ck 5 ай бұрын
Im waay too late for this discusion but whatever, i belive the non-lethal harvest only works on wild animals but not on the domesticated ones, considering they already produce their resouce passively on the animal husbandry
@PhenomenoRonaldo9
@PhenomenoRonaldo9 8 ай бұрын
Anyone else been waiting for these to come out and not spend their skill points lmao? Thanks for the hard work.
@Spoopball
@Spoopball 8 ай бұрын
The worst part? 1/3 of the skills don't even work correctly, Aka nearly all social skills are bugged not to work. Ship shield doesn't work. Regeneration lvl 4 doesn't heal in combat. I've killed over 10k humans, and lvl 4 scavenger has also never provided an extra medpac AND I've been using a gun with +medpac drops. I have 200 medpac but that is buying nearly all of them over +100 hours of gameplay. It's ridiculous how a bunch of stuff just doesn't work
@Citizen5101
@Citizen5101 8 ай бұрын
​@@SpoopballScavenging 3 only affects med packs in containers, not on dead bodies. Rank 4 highlights tagged items, has nothing to do with med packs. No wonder it isn't working for you.
@Spoopball
@Spoopball 8 ай бұрын
@@Citizen5101 thank you for explaining. I now remember why i was pissed after I was 3 skill points deep. It still doesn't excuse why melee skill are abysmal. Which are like 4 different perk trees. Or UI for social skills glitching npcs in combat nearly 100% of the time.
@phutureproof
@phutureproof 8 ай бұрын
No I been making all the mistakes because I paid a lot of money and dont want a walkthrough
@Moe_508
@Moe_508 8 ай бұрын
I almost forgot how it feels to see a KZbinr with an informative content, no bullshit for the sake of video length. You are the best ❤️
@BigAlboski
@BigAlboski 6 ай бұрын
Seems rare anymore!
@New_Identity
@New_Identity 8 ай бұрын
Perfect timing! I loaded up the game, went into my skill tree, thought "wonder when mumble is releasing the science skill video". AND HERE IT IS. Looking forward to what's in store next. Your skill tree videos have saved thousands of us. Your ratings videos are the best! I went ahead and joined your perks program. 26.9k currently, i'll be here to see you at a million!
@unclemumble
@unclemumble 8 ай бұрын
Welcome fellow Mumbler Member! So happy to hear you're enjoying the series and thanks so much for your support, seriously!
@Luvilli
@Luvilli 8 ай бұрын
​@@unclemumbleI like how you say "Fellow Mumbler Member" like your also just some random member lol
@unclemumble
@unclemumble 8 ай бұрын
@@Luvilli I am but a another human who mumbles his way through life
@Wayntortle
@Wayntortle 8 ай бұрын
A small time saver for those scanning all nearby planets, you can quickly switch between planets by pressing the menu button while looking at the next planet. This avoids zooming out and back in between scans and instead takes you straight to the next planet/moon. I know this isn’t mind blowing but it has definitely saved me some time scanning an entire system.
@unclemumble
@unclemumble 8 ай бұрын
Yeah this is a great tip that I constantly used when I scanned every system. Easily saved an hour+
@zetsubouda
@zetsubouda 8 ай бұрын
A lot of the small creatures are scavengers. The game does appear to model basic foodchains. One method that isn't foolproof but often causes a lot of the scavenger type mobs to pop is to kill a large pack of some other wildlife, give it a few, and search the area.
@nickllama5296
@nickllama5296 8 ай бұрын
People keep saying this, and I never can get it to work. I've literally killed a horde of 30-40 critters in one area, waited 30 mins, still no scavengers... :|
@jcase6199
@jcase6199 8 ай бұрын
@@nickllama5296you probably need to actually wait like a day or two “in game,” not just 20 minutes… 🤷🏻‍♂️ just a thought.
@mlahut
@mlahut 8 ай бұрын
The way this mechanic was explained to me is that it only works on creature vs creature combat. Most planets have a "carnivore" / "hunter" species, an herbivore species, and a scavenger species. I think the scavengers are more likely to arrive from carnivores killing herbivores rather than you killing them.
@zecuse
@zecuse 8 ай бұрын
@@nickllama5296 Be sure to get the Sense Star Stuff power unlocked to ensure you don't miss these flat bastards in grass.
@zetsubouda
@zetsubouda 8 ай бұрын
@@nickllama5296There's a comment below that it only works with creature on creature combat. That might be true and would explain why I find it to be inconsistent.
@gwouru
@gwouru 8 ай бұрын
the non-violent harvests, are for wild creatures only, not farm spawns.
@pdraggy
@pdraggy 8 ай бұрын
I think the OP was thinking of those nights in Sri Lanka where you wake up without a liver :0
@ViridianFlow
@ViridianFlow 8 ай бұрын
Doubling chem effects would be OP as hell. You'd end up with -100% movement noise, double damage and double accuracy with easily hoardable chems like frostwolf.
@seanamullen
@seanamullen 8 ай бұрын
Extending duration time would be good though.
@nickchivers9029
@nickchivers9029 8 ай бұрын
Oh no balance issues in my single player game 😢
@AlbonitumG
@AlbonitumG 8 ай бұрын
Sounds reasonable to me. In my first playthrough, I never bothered using something other than Amp to traverse planets faster and battle stim in combat. Everything else was just hoarded, because "ah, it's cool, but only for 2 mins, and I'm doing fine without it anyway". This skill could've been a gamechanger for me. I used chems in Fallout 4 (especially Jet, lol) much more often.
@Verchiel_
@Verchiel_ 8 ай бұрын
And it wouldn't be any kind of issue to program it since. Skyrim alchemy skill exists with a bunch of decent effects that make alchemy a worthwhile skill to invest perks into (even aside it being one of the most broken ways to break progression)
@Skyblade12
@Skyblade12 8 ай бұрын
Amp with 4x jump height combined with Gymnastics. Wheeeee!
@stuarthall9854
@stuarthall9854 8 ай бұрын
The Med Pack skill is honestly a high B to an A for me. On higher difficulties, the rate of healing just makes you feel nigh invincible and allows you to rank pretty much tank through anything, especially when you pop three med packs at once when for the heal-stacking when clearing out a room.
@randelclawson7695
@randelclawson7695 7 ай бұрын
Exactly and him rating Research higher when you can just use Neurajack to cut material Research costs boggles me a bit.
@supa3ek
@supa3ek 5 ай бұрын
Or.....you can just pop 1 damage debuff aid to tank it up instead of using all those skill points !!!
@MacesGamingandVideos
@MacesGamingandVideos 2 ай бұрын
@@randelclawson7695but imagine having that ranked max and using that chem
@Citizen5101
@Citizen5101 8 ай бұрын
I play on Very Hard but one rank of Medicine took me from chugging med packs every couple minutes during every single combat to using them once in awhile and being super happy with the healing each one provided. Maybe I'm just bad at shooters, but definitely helped and being a Science skill it helps speed up getting the even better Science skills instead of say Wellness because most of those skills aren't helpful if you aren't melee or stealth.
@thevoxdeus
@thevoxdeus 8 ай бұрын
It's a 10% difference, so how does it help that much?
@Citizen5101
@Citizen5101 8 ай бұрын
@@thevoxdeus it's enough of a difference that when I'm healing I only need one instead of almost always needing two. If I heal at 20% health, , getting to 70% feels much better than 60% does
@jared3868
@jared3868 8 ай бұрын
​@@thevoxdeusThe increased heal rate is the real difference I noticed. Base healing rate would take way too long and mobs would either be able to rush or flank me before I could get my health back out of one shot range. Let alone the times I would enter a room, especially going up a level in a ship, and be totally surrounded. Medicine helped negate enemy DPS either outright or at least enough to buy me an extra several seconds. You can see in the video he gets over half his health back in 5 seconds at tier 4 vs less than half in 10 seconds at rank 0. And that was just a medpack.
@null6634
@null6634 8 ай бұрын
That's a good use case. I almost always play games on normal difficulty. I don't see the need for making med packs or the medicine perk. But that's because I barely take real damage. On the harder difficulties healing is a lot more important.
@divinityai
@divinityai 8 ай бұрын
@@thevoxdeusit's not a 10% tho, it's way less, you heal 10% more but healing time is reduced for 10% so you heal like the same. That's why medicine is pretty bad.
@DGootz
@DGootz 8 ай бұрын
Medicine - does open up some additional dialog choices
@cadenjohnson4844
@cadenjohnson4844 8 ай бұрын
Geology gets a looooot better once you get Elemental Pull though. Picking up every rock in an artifact room (caelumite) instantly and getting bonus rare minerals on top of that is reeeal nice
@luisgerardocervantesjimene8575
@luisgerardocervantesjimene8575 8 ай бұрын
Yes exactly what I was thinking! It’s pretty fun to pull the elements to you. The only thing that bothers me is overweight.
@joshuab7737
@joshuab7737 8 ай бұрын
@@luisgerardocervantesjimene8575that’s what personal atmosphere is for
@Gurkon
@Gurkon 7 ай бұрын
​@@luisgerardocervantesjimene8575get the suits that half the weight of resources
@juanitoburrito2825
@juanitoburrito2825 8 ай бұрын
Appreciate the grind you put in to get these vids out, big help.
@nicksanchez2041
@nicksanchez2041 8 ай бұрын
Medicine perk should be a bit higher since if you have the alien dna trait the perk counters the debuff the trait gives you
@BrentDnD
@BrentDnD 8 ай бұрын
Alien DNA is a trait you shouldn't choose in the first place. It's really only useful in the very beginning of the game, and even then, it's barely even noticeably useful. There are much better traits to play with that don't actually require you to pick a perk to counter the negative effect.
@nicksanchez2041
@nicksanchez2041 8 ай бұрын
@brentmcpeek2096 yes it helps early game cause you get 50 bonus in health and oxygen which combine with wellness and fitness perks makes it even better. With medicine negating it early game you basically have no downsides
@nicksanchez2041
@nicksanchez2041 8 ай бұрын
@brentmcpeek2096 combine it with the other trait terra firma which also increases our health and oxygen while on a planet which most of the time we are fighting on planets creates a very good surviving early build
@irrelevantfish1978
@irrelevantfish1978 8 ай бұрын
But should you get Alien DNA? Probably not. Terra Firma offers the exact same benefits but with a less-impactful negative (space stations are not only uncommon but too small for O2 to matter much), and if you want _another_ O2-boosting trait, then you should probably take Extrovert or Introvert, as they're multiplicative. Unless it's for RP, you don't want to take Introvert/Extrovert, or you're willing to spend all three of your traits boosting your O2, then Alien DNA is a suboptimal choice.
@crazy-tommy
@crazy-tommy 8 ай бұрын
​@@BrentDnDWhat traits are better? I actually consider Alien DNA as one of the better traits.
@Hatterboot24
@Hatterboot24 8 ай бұрын
New to your channel. I appreciate the no BS, straightforward reviews. I honestly think that Starfield modders should review your channel and find a real good set of stuff that needs improvement/change. Great stuff!
@unclemumble
@unclemumble 8 ай бұрын
Welcome, glad you're enjoying! I hope it can help inspire some positive changes around the flawed facets of the game
@DSlyde
@DSlyde 8 ай бұрын
The biggest issue with Chemistry is that some of the best chems (Amp, Pick Me Up, STEVE, etc) dont require the perk and are already know, gotten from quests or from books.
@Skyblade12
@Skyblade12 8 ай бұрын
I love S.T.E.V.E. Aurora is contraband everywhere and super restricted, but a flat out better Aurora? No problems.
@colinkennedy1461
@colinkennedy1461 7 ай бұрын
Yeah the chemistry perks would be a lot more attractive if they let you brew the purchase-only precursors.
@DIGITALGH05T
@DIGITALGH05T 3 ай бұрын
i also cant see aurora being too profitable, getting it by hand is kinda a pain rn and buying from stores is only profitable if you already have bezene, hallucinogens & stimulants laying around whilst selling items to vendors u then go through all that trouble for what? 75 cred profit for an ingredient that sets YOU back 350, if 1 chasmbass oil made like 5 - 10 units of aurora tho, that'd be way better (and besides, chasmbass are HUGE fish, u telling me an entire fish's only got enough juice to get someone high for 10 SECONDS???)
@rekalty4477
@rekalty4477 8 ай бұрын
You can't harmlessly harvest outpost domesticated animals, because they're already "empty", probably to avoid you just harvesting/killing and looting them, and then respawning them by changing animal in the husbandry controls panel. You can harvest wild animals, if you harvest and then kill them, they won't have whatever you harvested, you can consider it "looting" or stealing the resource from their inventory. Your scanner will tell you if the animal can be harmlessly harvested, seems to mainly be for passive/unaggressive animals.
@unclemumble
@unclemumble 8 ай бұрын
Hmm interesting, you're probably right on the domesticated part but I've also tried on wild animals and it hasn't worked on the one's I've sampled. Granted it was only around 5-6 different species so it must be specific ones? In any case I prefer getting some xp if I harvest soooo.... sorry animals no harmless harvesting this time around :(
@rekalty4477
@rekalty4477 8 ай бұрын
​@@unclemumble Yeah, I'm not sure why you'd even want to harvest them without killing them for the exp. Another one of those "let's throw in another bonus to this skill so it looks better than it actually is" deals they've done with several skills.
@ajm317
@ajm317 8 ай бұрын
Astrodynamics is mostly useful because it allows you to use a lighter grav drive on your ship. This can allow you to stack more cargo while maintaining mobility. Also, in my experience you cannot find unique tier resources anywhere in a relevant biome. The other resources yes, but not the unique ones. I have not been able to find them unless you're in a location where you can see it from orbit.
@jimmayus3211
@jimmayus3211 8 ай бұрын
The zoology perk: if you scan the creature it will occasionally say “non-lethal harvest available”, mostly a gimmick
@jonmack1487
@jonmack1487 8 ай бұрын
You’ve absolutely killed it with these videos man. So helpful and well thought out. You rock!
@SilverBrumby165
@SilverBrumby165 7 ай бұрын
If you like surveying as I do I'd recommend the zoology skill before the plant one - those critters are not only hard to find sometimes but also hop around a lot and it can be frustrating chasing a mob of galloping whatsits so you can scan them. It's great for birds and fish too.
@Euler13
@Euler13 8 ай бұрын
This video series is amazing. Thank you so much for taking the time to research the skill trees so thoroughly and share your insights.
@theravada9289
@theravada9289 8 ай бұрын
Chem 4 is the only way to unlock craftable items that boost Starborn power generation (Small tip concerning Caelumite, you can harvest decent quantities fast in your NG+ runs if you use the Elemental pull power in the caves that contains Artifacts). That being said, you re 100% right about consumables (both chems and food) not lasting long enough and not providing enough value for the 12 points skill commitment.
@cristianvogelfang5670
@cristianvogelfang5670 8 ай бұрын
I'm on Ng+ 9 can you explain me that?
@theravada9289
@theravada9289 8 ай бұрын
@cristianvogelfang5670 if you have unlocked the Elemental Pull power, you can use it to instantly harvest all minerals around you. The higher the level the bigger the range and the cheaper the activation. Its way faster than using the mining drill, especially on Caelimite. So if you are at cave with an artifact, you just activate the power and you will get between 10 to 30 of it with one tap. So you will have around 250 semi-passively while you are collecting the artifacts in NG+
@Citizen5101
@Citizen5101 8 ай бұрын
Sarah is a completely free Companion for your crew so if you aren't playing evil it really makes Astrodynamics useless for most players.
@BiomechanicalBrick
@BiomechanicalBrick 8 ай бұрын
astrodynamics is good for that jump range, which sarah doesnt give you afaik also i think having more jump range would mean being able to put more cargo modules on your ship without losing access to the far flung systems
@Citizen5101
@Citizen5101 8 ай бұрын
@@BiomechanicalBrick I'd still rather invest in Piloting and get a bigger Grav Drive. You only need to get the system. So a smaller farther jumping ship is all you need. Once you've been there, you can fast travel across the entire settled systems for free in one jump. You just can't be encumbered and also not sitting in the pilot's seat.
@Citizen5101
@Citizen5101 8 ай бұрын
@@BiomechanicalBrick the real cost of more mass (usually from additional cargo) is the cost to mobility when you're flying around. You lose significantly less jump distance than you do mobility.
@cretinousmartyr3522
@cretinousmartyr3522 8 ай бұрын
My Sarah died. :(
@crazy-tommy
@crazy-tommy 8 ай бұрын
You have to invest into a tier 1 skill to unlock the higher tiers. As Geology, Research and Suveying are mostly useless, you are left with Astrodynamics and Medicine. Out of these I prefer Medicine, but I can see some use for Astrodynamics on optimized ship builds as it allows using a lighter Grav drive, which might drop the total mass enough to get away with fewer engines so you can have more power for weapons.
@mf_foxy
@mf_foxy 8 ай бұрын
Dude dude the amount of anticipation I have for these videos in this series is uncontrollable at this moment. Soooo stoked for this!
@overlordea8464
@overlordea8464 8 ай бұрын
The Scanning skill has another benefit of allowing you to scan and rescan planets for new information which in turn gives XP and if you use it in combination with the Astrodynamics skill you can easily rack up tons of XP to level up fast with, even if you're using the same planets with each new rank of these skills
@inkarozu2309
@inkarozu2309 8 ай бұрын
Personally I didn't want any of the first tier skills but since you need to dump 4 points to unlock further, I went full into medicine as it is the skill that will have an effect the most often. If you aren't playing a stealthy character, you will get shot at a lot and therefore chug med packs rather regularly. I only got it to rank 3 through natural gameplay and had to spam feed med packs while suffocating in over-encumbrance to get the last unlock. It has given me dialogue options a few times as well so no regrets having leveled it. Suit and Weapon mods are easily the most important part of the science tree and MUST rank 4s for everyone. If not for these skills, for players who don't want to bother with outposts the entire tree could be skipped! Weapon modding is soo impactful I'm surprised it wasn't made the middle master tier skill. Looking forward to the Tech tree breakdown, it is by far my favorite and what I have invested the most points into.
@SleepyGraugans
@SleepyGraugans 8 ай бұрын
Totally agreed. I'm level 80 something now, and some of these level 95 space pirates almost 1-shot me through 400+ armor. But it depends on the difficulty. Easy to normal probably won't benefit too much from increased healing as much as on very hard. But still, you can't go wrong with incread healing rates. Though I'd say you can skip rank 4 in Spacesuit Design, as it won't unlock any new parts and just gives you a low chance not to consume materials when upgrading your equipment.
@Betamax954
@Betamax954 8 ай бұрын
Exactly, players need to dump 4 points in the first tier, so all or most may as well go into medicine. It may only provide a minor benefit, but it’s a minor benefit that will be experienced repeatedly throughout the game, so the points aren’t wasted. I put 3 points in medicine and one in scanning, with no regrets.
@devcor
@devcor 8 ай бұрын
Sincerely, thank you man. I just spent an hour looking at your videos even though I've already put significant amount of time into Starfield and have most of the things figured out. It's just interesting to watch!
@bt0694
@bt0694 8 ай бұрын
I am so glad I found your channel in my first few days of playing after launch. This is by far one of the most informative and entertaining Starfield experiences to be found on KZbin. Great job dude!
@Sotanaht01
@Sotanaht01 8 ай бұрын
Definitely ranking Medicine much higher in my Very Hard playthrough. I really felt it when I started investing there, especially since I was always out of meds even when buying out vendors. A tier all the way. Research Methods is mostly useless on crafting. Crafting is either something you do in very small quantities, such as with weapon and armor mods, where the difference between 1 and 4 of a resource is effectively negligible. If you find a source (ie a vendor) you'll probably find as many as you need at that scale, OR it's something you do in huge quantities (eg adaptive frames) where any resource you can get from an outpost you will have in infinite amount. The few resources, mostly in pharmaceuticals, you can't get through outposts are already only 1 required. Research Methods is solidly in the QOL category helping save time on one-time-only research and not at all necessary in a power build, C tops. Suit Mods 1 is kind of good for the Medic trait on your pack, otherwise mods are going to be in the nature of +10 carry, +10 armor etc. None of those actually matter, even on very hard the +10 armor is nothing compared to what you already should have +meds. Rank 3 is good for boostpack types as you mentioned, but only if you find that perfect legendary boostpack that just happens to have the wrong boost type, otherwise it doesn't do anything at all. Regen 1 is just too small. I'd rank 1 as a B tier, and the rest as 2 and 3 at D tier, and rank 4 is just F Outpost skill is almost entirely self-serving. As you mentioned, you can do a frame build with 0 in the skill. In fact, you can gather every single base resource (not manufactured) with 0 points. Spending points lets you mine faster, but you can just advance time more to accomplish the same thing. Unless you are building outposts as an end in itself (decorating them etc as your intended gameplay), I'd call it D tier. Building better storage does have a slight convinience for most level 0 functions which is why it isn't F. Obviously if building outposts IS your endgame, than it's S. All the resources crafted through Special Projects can also be crafted through Outpost Skill (above). You need both to do a proper endgame XP farm, automating everything except the last step (which is generally not even a need-to-have since frame farms work just fine), but other than that I think there might be a small number of researches that require the advanced components? First tier is A, specifically for how it interacts with Pharmacology and Weapons, everything else is C to F. I would rather build resources this way than through outposts given the choice, especially for small quantities.
@dr.ergungurer8996
@dr.ergungurer8996 8 ай бұрын
I agree with all of the above. Especially medicine. Healing more per item and doing it quick is a must for higher difficulties especially when you are face to face with an elite mob in close quarters.
@astroboy314
@astroboy314 8 ай бұрын
Love these videos! And Science is by far what I've invested in the most... tier 3 spacesuit design health regeneration essentially makes food obsolete.
@joshuahunt3032
@joshuahunt3032 8 ай бұрын
I honestly don’t understand why they bothered giving food direct healing effects, considering it’s a lot better at entirely different effects (I use Barbacoa wraps for damage resistance, for example)
@MISTAKEWASMADE4live
@MISTAKEWASMADE4live 8 ай бұрын
You mean medicine right? Cause foods healing is atrocious no matter the investment.
@joshuahunt3032
@joshuahunt3032 8 ай бұрын
@@MISTAKEWASMADE4live I mean food. My point is, food is really only useful for providing damage resistance (and maybe some movement/reload speed buffs for some booze forms). The difference is, the high-level food seems to be about half as effective as some chems, in exchange for not being addictive and being cheaper to make.
@joshuahunt3032
@joshuahunt3032 8 ай бұрын
@@MISTAKEWASMADE4live That is to say, you shouldn’t be using food for healing in the first place.
@milordas
@milordas Ай бұрын
i prefer passive regen from skill, spacesuit design is not worth imo as in NG+ you get prety decent suit, didnt found better
@universal_wisdom3416
@universal_wisdom3416 8 ай бұрын
I can’t even keep track of the subs anymore. You’ve blown up bro. Absolutely deserved. Love your vids as always my dude :)
@alexandercuthbertson
@alexandercuthbertson 8 ай бұрын
All of these skill analysis videos are so helpful!!! Thank you so much for making the rest of our playthroughs smooth. Excited to see the tech tree soon!!!
@twistedtxb
@twistedtxb 8 ай бұрын
The amount of effort you put on these videos is frankly astonishing. Thanks for making these! Best Starfield ressource on YT, no contest
@-_-DatDude
@-_-DatDude 8 ай бұрын
Considering that rejuvenation is bugged in combat. Medicine is easily A tier, its arguably a S tier skill for Ronins like me who need to take damage to do damage.
@learnmyname123
@learnmyname123 8 ай бұрын
Just want to take a second to say thanks for making these long(er) videos going into detail on each skill tree. This is exactly the kinda research I was looking for and am glad I found you!!
@ZeSgtSchultz
@ZeSgtSchultz 8 ай бұрын
I don't even know why there are other starfield KZbinrs. It's all right here, no bs, just info.
@danschmidt6206
@danschmidt6206 8 ай бұрын
Outpost building rank 4 is super helpful for NG+, since it cuts down on supply runs needed to get started. Also the power generators (not thr helium-3 ones) are super helpful on planets far from the sun with no atmosphere. Instrad of spamming like 20 solar arrays, you might just need 1-2 generators.
@nilsd2112
@nilsd2112 8 ай бұрын
Generators are also useful for just temporarily building an outpost for whatever stuff you need right now , waiting a day or two, and then packing up (100% refund for outpost mats on deconstruction) and leaving without caring for pesky stuff like outpost build limit or having everything locking nice. 1 generator instead of a bunch of solars ist just that much faster.
@puma51921
@puma51921 8 ай бұрын
They need to buff most of the skills. Many are worthless
@RuthwikRao
@RuthwikRao 8 ай бұрын
the game needs a "Cyberpunk 1.6" type update in a month or two, then entire systemic level updates over the coming year or two.
@null6634
@null6634 8 ай бұрын
I don't want or need to be over powered. It would be better if a lot of these useless skills were play style focused. In the future I expect a Hardcore option that will make food crafting and maybe Chemistry useful.
@MrArchilus
@MrArchilus 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, some definitely deserve a buff
@chibynite
@chibynite 6 ай бұрын
Great job! I love the deeper dive with examples of different levels. Your presentation is quick but not too fast, clear, and thorough. Thanks
@faithminion
@faithminion 8 ай бұрын
You are the only person I watch for starfield skill tree tips. You go the extra mile researching each one. Can't wait for the tech tree!
@abucketbrigade1217
@abucketbrigade1217 8 ай бұрын
You know I'm something of a scientist myself.
@johndang897
@johndang897 8 ай бұрын
How is faster healing and more heals not S. You will always take a lot of damage, and it effects all the other types of med packs like trauma pack and emergency kit. Wellness does not invalid medicine, in fact they work together. Let’s say you have 1k health and med pack heals say 30% so that’s 300 hp in 10 seconds. Maxing wellness and medicine means you can heal 45% of 1400 hp for a 630 hp heal in 5 seconds, so you get more than 4x healing per second it’s on. And another thing is for science tree to unlock the next tier of skills like space suit design, chemistry and weapon mod design you need to invest 4 points somewhere and medicine is the best one for this, especially from a combat perspective.
@iamyourgod76
@iamyourgod76 8 ай бұрын
Great content. Im a New subscriber. Keep it up!
@Space_Racer
@Space_Racer 8 ай бұрын
You have the best SF skill videos on YT. They are straight to the point with a lot of useful info.
@JaviAirwraps
@JaviAirwraps 8 ай бұрын
Your Starfield vids have so much more to offer than most others lol thanks for the content!
@FatDadman
@FatDadman 8 ай бұрын
been checking yt like 10 times a day to see if u uploaded another one of these
@PurrsPlace
@PurrsPlace 8 ай бұрын
Well done! This is precisely the kind of thoughtful and skeptical review that I was looking for. Thank you for not wasting any time, getting to your points, communicating clearly, and still making the experience an enjoyable one. *Liked* =)
@chubbuck35
@chubbuck35 8 ай бұрын
Your content is unbelievably in depth and easily adds the most value of any video series about starfield. Thank you.
@jameshiggins9062
@jameshiggins9062 5 ай бұрын
Mate this video was boss. Excellent research and presentation. A lot of work went into that review, dude, and I surely appreciate it. I’ve been trying to find comprehensive coverage of Starfield’s intricacies and am thoroughly impressed with finding your Channel. Subscribed 👍
@Cronoo
@Cronoo 8 ай бұрын
Astonished at how thorough these videos have been. Turly impeccable work.
@life-longpatriot8258
@life-longpatriot8258 8 ай бұрын
This skill tree series is the most valuable content I've seen anywhere. Thank you!!!
@Rambo92Juve
@Rambo92Juve 8 ай бұрын
I love this series you’re doing. Very helpful, thank you!
@zzhoward
@zzhoward 8 ай бұрын
This series is fantastic - thank you so much for the hard work!
@RG-rm9jt
@RG-rm9jt 4 ай бұрын
This is the best skill guide I have seen it so far. Really good at explaining hard benefits vs fluff skills for the various playstyles. Thank you so much!
@KILAH4716
@KILAH4716 8 ай бұрын
Think about this skill tree in a different way: When you start New Game+, you bring ALL YOUR SKILLS WITH YOU. With that in mind, there needs to be a serious re-evaluation of a lot of these skills. While you don't start off with all the researches unlocked, you DO start off being able to research everything if you get the appropriate perks. You can also start planting outposts on more extreme and valuable planets right away, and you can spend less time surveying and scanning. You'll get yourself QUICKLY back up to speed with a lot of these skills.
@biggusgibbus8144
@biggusgibbus8144 8 ай бұрын
This is a great series, maybe an essential series of videos for anyone playing the game, and I salute you for doing it. It's really helped me a lot.
@cwidtsoe
@cwidtsoe 7 ай бұрын
The fourth tier zoology skill does let you harvest from animals either by just walking up to them or stunning them first, however the only times I have been able to do this is after completing the UC Vanguard quest line and talking to the other scientist that is not Hadrian. He will give you radiant quests to collect samples from animals where this skill allows you to not have to kill the creatures which nets a minuscule amount of xp when you complete each radiant quest. However you will get more xp just outright killing the creatures. For space suit upgrades the gravitic components on both the spacesuit and helmet are solid S tier for stealth builds. With those and the first stealth skill maxed you can have enemies walk within 3 meters and them not detect you. This is without any mods for stealth and does help explain why stealth seems so awful. Those gravitic components practically make you invisible, but with the second stealth skill maxed you are a ghost in the wind.
@skrimshaw72
@skrimshaw72 7 ай бұрын
Excellent and very informative. Thank you for putting all this together and sharing it.
@dahow22
@dahow22 7 ай бұрын
I love this series. Good information and your analysis is solid. I enjoy watching and reading a lot of different opinions on skills because people have vastly different opinions about what is good, average, or crap and it shows how any skill can be good or crap depending on preferred play style and RPG build. And I think this makes the Starfield skill system so good and more encompassing than almost any other game.
@MrSonic43
@MrSonic43 8 ай бұрын
This is hands down the best person to watch for Starfield content! Thank you so much broski
@natkendrick5265
@natkendrick5265 8 ай бұрын
I don't know if other people are doing these skill deep dive videos but this is God tier stuff. I've used a lot of the Tech tree stuff so I'm definitely looking forward to seeing if my thoughts match yours
@blackfish95
@blackfish95 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing all this work! It's very useful and welcome :)
@dh8203
@dh8203 8 ай бұрын
Great info, I've been waiting for this one!
@jeremybrown9611
@jeremybrown9611 8 ай бұрын
This is very good info bruh, keep up the good work!
@AdamJohnstone-dk4gt
@AdamJohnstone-dk4gt 8 ай бұрын
This is the best starfield content so far, great series very informative and factual, could you possibly do a ship design/best parts video/videos too?
@BrentDnD
@BrentDnD 8 ай бұрын
This is the best explanation of skill usefulness I have seen for Starfield. Period. You understood the assignment. 100%.
@thpq
@thpq 8 ай бұрын
Just subbed this one the best videos at explaining things ive seen on starfield science, thanks for the time it took to make this. I look forward to more content in future. Great editing also
@wavos_own6999
@wavos_own6999 8 ай бұрын
been waiting for this one!!!! this "series" has been brilliant!
@Meliut
@Meliut 8 ай бұрын
Awesome as always. Thank you for the effort you put in these.
@SarDeliac
@SarDeliac 8 ай бұрын
Really enjoying this series, so thank you very much for that. For Astrodynamics, one of its "hidden" benefits is it gives you more options when shipbuilding--you can buy lighter/lower-power grav drives and lighter/smaller fuel tanks and your skill will supply the rest. You don't always have to pick the biggest, most powerful, and heaviest equipment to get full performance. Same kind of thing with Medicine--med packs weigh nothing, so having high Medicine lets you stop carrying emergency kits and trauma packs entirely, and that can save a considerable amount of weight. Thanks again for the breakdowns. Very very useful.
@DragonGfunk
@DragonGfunk 8 ай бұрын
Liked and subscribed!! Excellent work, thank you!
@timothyclark8634
@timothyclark8634 8 ай бұрын
These videos are a game changer and time saver. Great Work!
@TheBaken
@TheBaken 8 ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this - thank you!
@acemaxximus7175
@acemaxximus7175 8 ай бұрын
This is the only Starfield content I'm eager to watch. Can't wait for your future outpost video!
@briancastillo418
@briancastillo418 8 ай бұрын
This is what I have been waiting for, and I love your other videos
@kevinlee6003
@kevinlee6003 8 ай бұрын
Another great guide man. Was waiting 🤜🤛
@ZanakinzMedia
@ZanakinzMedia 8 ай бұрын
@UncleMumble I love these videos! It's very thorough and having your opinions/rankings make this the best video about this on Starfield. I'm glad I could be here before you become a big KZbinr!
@firebird0i
@firebird0i 8 ай бұрын
Thank you. All your skill tree reviews are appreciated.
@jonnygunsuk
@jonnygunsuk 8 ай бұрын
A fantastic and concise deep dive into the Science tree. Thank you Sir 👍🏻
@eduardoarmenta9232
@eduardoarmenta9232 8 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this, muchas gracias 😁
@vulpes133
@vulpes133 8 ай бұрын
The Zoologist perk for harvesting parts without killing them only applies to certain animals. When you scan something wild it might have the tag 'Non-Lethal Harvest', and if so you can then just interact with them to gather what their drop.
@ArtemisShanks
@ArtemisShanks 8 ай бұрын
Aneutronic (the elite skill) is amazing when you reach NG+ and are using less than amazing ships in the early parts of each NG+.
@unclemumble
@unclemumble 8 ай бұрын
Oh that is a fair point! There are a few other skills with some great ng+ start benefits. If you don't want to use the SBG then aneutronic definitely helps early on
@kgriffin1032
@kgriffin1032 8 ай бұрын
I just recently started a Scientist character that is heavily focusing on the science tree. Been loving it so far and this was a great watch. Helped confirmed how i was feeling about each skill i unlocked.
@TheIronLadle
@TheIronLadle 8 ай бұрын
Bro!!! Thank you, your Starfield videos have become instant clicks for me.
@nitrowilz3014
@nitrowilz3014 8 ай бұрын
Hey man, really good content! Thank you!
@teamjackedsolutions8465
@teamjackedsolutions8465 7 ай бұрын
I'm probably late finding this channel, but it contains by far the best analysis of Starfield-esque topics. Sincere thanks for the time and effort you put into these tests @UncleMumble .
@unclemumble
@unclemumble 7 ай бұрын
better late than never, welcome aboard!
@Tigs2
@Tigs2 6 ай бұрын
Outstanding content. Well done 👏🏻
@nationalsoccrchamp23
@nationalsoccrchamp23 8 ай бұрын
Bro, great videos man, subbed a few days ago, doing God's work out here
@prashantnz
@prashantnz 8 ай бұрын
Hats off for your hard work mate. Thanks heaps from Auckland, NZ.
@reddeadnmore6457
@reddeadnmore6457 8 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this!
@ironsilk6634
@ironsilk6634 8 ай бұрын
Man, your tier lists are ON POINT!
@IIMatt_DII
@IIMatt_DII 8 ай бұрын
Loving this series, thanks man
@bfish9700
@bfish9700 8 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this vid. I found myself taking a ton of science skills
@Hidan056
@Hidan056 8 ай бұрын
Honestly the space jam puns made me chuckle and I gave you the sub. I was going to anyway because I’ve watched every episode of this series so far but that sealed the deal
@jonathanmueller9062
@jonathanmueller9062 8 ай бұрын
I'm an explorer. So this video in particular has been very useful. And I agree with your evaluation with a lot of the skills. If you are an explorer, you will value some skills more.
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