Scientific Baits with Dean Towey

What an episode we have for you today. This is definitely one for those aspiring bait buffs or to be honest, anyone wanting to catch more carp!
We sit down with bait guru Dean Towey to talk in-depth about what makes the very best carp bait, how we can get carp ethically addicted to our boilies, what attracts carp, feed stimulants, taste enhancement, amino acids, nucleotides, essential oils, hookbaits, and SO much more!
Sit back and enjoy...

[@danielgreen4621]

Fantastic podcast. Thanks very much. Loving listening to the in depth side of the bait making from people with good knowledge.

[@alencosic3765]

Great podcast guys, thank you. Just one thing: cooking process denatures proteins, all amino acids are thermostable to close to 200 C (some even more than that). If you cook them for too long they will leak out but you can't physically destroy them

[@Deadlycalling]

I remember Dean doing articles for Carp world back in the day,I've found myself nodding along great podcast

[@crazyjeffy4964]

Just came across these podcasts really enjoying them especially the bait ones .

[@aaronphillips3616]

Very interesting podcast full of valuable information great stuff guys thank you for doing these type of casts

[@CarpChronicles]

Thank you Aaron!

[@walterlily8261]

Informative & entertaining as ever I particularly liked the "debate" style of this great podcast 👍

[@CarpChronicles]

Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it.

[@razvandobra5140]

Amazing here in spain no one talks about this stuff.Thank you very much for your hard work. Greetings forma spain

[@CarpChronicles]

You are welcome!

[@Deadlycalling]

Lecithin is high in choline ,fantastic emulsifier,we used it in fishmeals,with a capsicum oleoresin,it also does something interesting with betaine, we called it the flavour pyramid,using oleo,s and essential oils and powders gives a 3-D flavour.

[@richardcorlet5118]

Sam/Pete, this was EXCELLENT! Thank You! any chance you could get on 'serenity Allan' from carpforum that Dean mentions, that would be astounding :-)

[@Deadlycalling]

Gary Bayes wrote once that using crumbled bait verses the basemix of the same bait,that it was the boilie crumb that went every time,the cooking process obviously changes all of the ingredients ,i tried this on numerous times on our carp and hes right

[@stephenbeaumont742]

I've just listened to the podcast and very interesting it is too. I've also been looking more and more into amylase and wholly agree with sams thoughts on it. It's my thoughts that the increased secretion of amylase is due to the raw starch (plant matter) is much harder to breakdown hence requiring high amylase level. When we consider that any cereal will be broken into maltose by a amylase then it's worth imo considering that added amylase will increase solubility via breaking insoluble starch into semi soluble maltose during cooking. This in turn will increase bio activity in terms of fermentation .

[@CarpChronicles]

Interesting stuff isn’t it!

[@stephenbeaumont742]

@@CarpChronicles it has actually become a separate hobby to my fishing...cant stop looking for something new😂😂

[@vikinggeneration3285]

from a lover and amateur diy baits for carp, i aply a lot of the thinking on the ingredients talked here on your podcasts, learning a lot everytime i ear it again and again. do u guys can share were to get bulk ingredients like brews yests and bird foods milks etc? trying to make bait for 1 year at the time so i will for sure stick to it all year for tests hehe, happy days and keep thos podcasts up

[@CarpChronicles]

Hi Viking Generation. Personally I get most of my bulk ingredients from BAF, Bacarel, and Feedstim. Of course some bits need to be bought elsewhere but they cover most things between the three of them.

[@Deadlycalling]

I used to fish very large northern meres and the lads used a variety of baits all the top bait firms and the baits that did the best without fail were birdfoods

[@rezzauk]

Dean, what would be the permissible quantity of glutamine to use in a 1kilo mix

[@richardminter7451]

Oils4life are in Great Yarmouth.

[@rezzauk]

i have just watched your podcast Bait Science with Dean Towey { Part Two} SORRY and he mentions' using Cinnamon Oil and said he had good results on it. I made some enquires in Holland and Barratts and they told me you must not ingest it, so is it dangerous to carp ?

[@CarpChronicles]

It’s absolutely fine for carp given the low levels used 👍

[@rezzauk]

What sort of levels would I use in a 1k mix ?

[@kurtsamuel3883]

👍 👍

[@alexorr2626]

Here for my bi annual listen to get hyped

[@rocplimmy]

So what's this secret spice 🤔

[@CarpChronicles]

I don’t remember talking about a secret spice!

[@rocplimmy]

@@CarpChronicles you mentioned a spice that all fish like, but didn't name it. Hence the secret spice

[@CarpChronicles]

@@rocplimmy not sure which one we were referring to, possibly fenugreek.

[@Chunter83]

Amino acids are gone soon as boiling process happens I thought 💭

[@CarpChronicles]

Absolutely not!

[@Chunter83]

@@CarpChronicles www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5807855/ you sure …?

[@CarpChronicles]

@@Chunter83 thanks for the link. Yes I’m still sure. This study reports of just 8 amino acids and they only decompose to varying degrees after reaching 200 plus degrees (depending upon the specific amino)!! I’m not sure about you but most people most definitely wouldn’t be heating their baits above 200 degrees!

[@Chunter83]

@@CarpChronicles it was more food for thought. Thanks for the feed back boys

[@CarpChronicles]

@@Chunter83 absolutely. It’s always good to discuss these things, and we definitely don’t know it all. It’s also worth baring in mind that the centre of a boilie won’t get as hot as the outside. Whilst certain compounds will denature on the outer parts of the boilie, the inner will stay more in tact. Vise versa, cooking actually makes the boilie more digestible in other ways. Swings and roundabouts!

[@leec9435]

Never understood people that have to slip the word fuck! Into sentences for no reason. Had to turn it off after a while as the kids were in the room.🤷‍♂️ Dean was interesting though.

[@CarpChronicles]

I do agree with you! It’s an unnecessary bad habit.

[@tomwinterfishing9065]

You’re a bad man!