Scientists say...homeopathy is not just placebo

[@dr.alokumar]

If I do not know the process of digestion would I stop eating ?? I am a Homeopathic doctor practicing in India treating minimum 30 patients a day (including All types of chronic diseases including approx 5-6 patients of present pandemic) successfully. Why would I be so interested to know the incompetence of science who is not able to explain how Homeopathy works. Most of the chronic diseases are curable with Homeopathy. But they are stamped by main stream medicine as incurable. Main stream medicines are very very limited in action as you can see in the present pandemic. They are busy experimenting several type of drugs on patients without any significant effect. It all started with HCq and now a days remdesivir. None of them are scientific, no evidence, but still being used.

[@simstar6557]

You guys are idiotic quacks. Supreme Court of India warned Homeopaths to not claim Covid cures. Yet here you are.

[@purrcheeze5014]

@@simstar6557 The supreme court of India does not preclude affirming that homeopathy can be used as a prophylactic. This comes from a literature review published in an orthodox scientific journal, you seem to be losing the battle my little troll :C "Homeopathic medicines are being considered for the treatment of COVID-19 in a few countries, including many Indian states. Arsenic album is regarded as an immune booster by Central Council for Research in Homeopathy (Kumar, 2020a). The world-first clinical trial of Homeopathic medicine Bryonia alba 200 for the treatment of COVID-19 has begun at Neminath Homeopathic Medical College, Agra (India). During the initial trial, Bryonia alba-200 was regularly provided to 42 patients, and within 5-7 days, the test results were found to be negative for 40 patients. Further studies for its effectiveness are still in progress (Kumar, 2020b; Kumar, 2020a). Cuba, a North American country also declared about the distribution of Prevengovir, a new homeopathic immunological booster (Torres, 2020). In Hong Kong, a study was performed with 18 COVID-19 patients who had a variety of symptoms. Patients treated with Bryonia alba 30C recovered 20% in the first 12 h and 70-95% on day 3, patients treated with Gelsemium sempervirens 30C recovered 20-50% in the first 12 h and 70-100% on day 3, patients treated with Arsenicum album 30C recovered 50% in the first 12 h and 100% on day 3, and patients treated with Eupatoriu 30C recovered 50% in the first 12 h and 100% on day 3 (To and Fok, 2020)."

[@christinecox6049]

Alok Kumar. Hello could you please advise me on what homeopathic medicine works best for anxiety as in Low GAMA, I suspect I have ADHD, I will need to order online as no herbalist shops near me now, this condition has ruined my life, I did take tissue salts and a flower remedy but cannot find anymore. Thank you

[@simstar6557]

@@purrcheeze5014 it doesn't come from any literature. All quack medicines get a pass as immunity boosters in India apparently.

[@simstar6557]

@@christinecox6049 talk to a psychiatrist. They are trained to deal with ADHD.

[@garthwunsch]

I’m not a scientist... just a rather senior citizen treated by an amazing homeopathic doctor for the last eleven years. I no longer require any meds and my MD is content with my choice of health care... and my outcomes.

[@DominiqueBau]

OK, thank you... Je ne suis pas un scientifique ... juste un citoyen plutôt âgé traité par un médecin homéopathe incroyable depuis onze ans. Je n'ai plus besoin de médicaments et mon médecin est satisfait de mon choix de soins de santé ... et de mes résultats.

[@Notalloldpeople]

Maybe it’s the same doctor I know who openly admits to pandering to his clients wishes despite not believing homeopathy to be effective.

[@DominiqueBau]

@@Notalloldpeople hahahahaha, noooooo ! hahahahaha

[@LK-hz2rg]

Amazing Garth, all the best, stay healthy!

[@FreeJulianAssange23]

Not a scientist? Thank goodness. That means you’re creditable

[@cgaminggeek]

Homeopathy can treat you for what which allopathy never can do, the people who understand the reality of homeopathy, will never try again for allopathic, infact homeopathy can exposed the allopathic world, hence it can be close all doctors and medical shop, hence they always tried to infamous it. But will not success.

[@simstar6557]

Reality is homeopathy has never cured anything ever at all. Its just a delusion of uneducated people. “The principles of homeopathy contradict known chemical, physical and biological laws and persuasive scientific trials proving its effectiveness are not available” Russian Academy of Sciences, Russia “Homeopathy should not be used to treat health conditions that are chronic, serious, or could become serious. People who choose homeopathy may put their health at risk if they reject or delay treatments for which there is good evidence for safety and effectiveness.” National Health and Medical Research Council, Australia “These products are not supported by scientific evidence.” Health Canada, Canada “Homeopathic remedies don’t meet the criteria of evidence based medicine.” Hungarian Academy of Sciences, Hungary “The incorporation of anthroposophical and homeopathic products in the Swedish directive on medicinal products would run counter to several of the fundamental principles regarding medicinal products and evidence-based medicine.” Swedish Academy of Sciences, Sweden “We recommend parents and caregivers not give homeopathic teething tablets and gels to children and seek advice from their health care professional for safe alternatives.” Food and Drug Administration, USA “There is little evidence to support homeopathy as an effective treatment for any specific condition” National Centre for Complementary and Integrative Health, USA “There is no good-quality evidence that homeopathy is effective as a treatment for any health condition” National Health Service, UK “Homeopathic remedies perform no better than placebos, and that the principles on which homeopathy is based are “scientifically implausible”” House of Commons Science and Technology Committee, UK

[@purrcheeze5014]

@@simstar6557 2021: "An analysis of government-sponsored reviews of clinical research on homeopathic medicine was conducted, including two studies from Switzerland, one from England, and one from Australia. Three of the four government-funded reviews were critical of homeopathy, claiming that there was no reliable evidence that homeopathic medicines were effective. Three of these reviews had significant flaws, with potential ethical concerns raised in one of the reviews. The most comprehensive review of homeopathic research, including analysis of clinical and basic science concerns, found the most positive results for homeopathy"

[@jackreacher8535]

@@simstar6557you are a medico

[@evapick1566]

Well, just look at the longevity of the British Royal family (including the Queen going for a good ride on her horse just last year, at an age - 94 years - when others sit in the sun and nod a bit. If they're still around, that is). They have had a homoeopathic physician for several generations now. And before you cry out: "It's just good genes!" - How old did Prince Philip get?

[@simstar6557]

India has most of worlds homeopaths. Now see where it stands. Even crematoriums are collapsing.

[@purrcheeze5014]

@@simstar6557 Switzerland and Belgium also have homeopathy, can you say why those two countries are not collapsing? Ah, I understand, you who usually repeat that "correlation is not causation" forget this depending on the situation.

[@evapick1566]

Yes, @@simstar6557 , I was wondering about the same thing. So I went to the official Coronavirus Update Site and compared mortality and morbidity per million in India with places like the US and the UK. Try it and you will see what I mean: US cases per million: 100,455 UK cases per million: 64,982 India cases per million: 15,729 ??? US deaths per million: 100,455 UK deaths per million: 1,871 India deaths per million: 171 Confused? Me too. Maybe it is Homoeopathy after all.... www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[@simstar6557]

@@evapick1566 India's cases and death numbers have no connection with facts. In one state today, 50% of tests came back positive. Death counts are off by a factor of 25 or so when compared with crematorium records. They are only reporting a homeopathic percent of reality even when healthcare has collapsed and bodies are being burnt in parks. India is the worst hit country for covid ever. Just read the news.

[@simstar6557]

@@evapick1566 India's death counts are as reliable as homeopathy studies. Everyone knows they are fake.

[@ozkboody2]

Dr Samuel Hahnemann, father of homeopathy, was rigorously empirical in his approach unlike comtemporary doctors of the time, who were prepared to ignore the 'poisoning' effects of the medicines they used in crude doses on their patients.

[@simstar6557]

And yet everything he said was proven false except that medicine at that time was horrible.

[@DominiqueBau]

Le Dr Samuel Hahnemann, père de l'homéopathie, était rigoureusement empirique dans son approche contrairement aux médecins contemporains de l'époque, qui étaient prêts à ignorer les effets « empoisonnants » des médicaments qu'ils utilisaient à doses grossières sur leurs patients.

[@TheRhetoricRoom]

@@simstar6557 not really actually

[@LK-hz2rg]

What people don't understand, they laugh at. Friend of mine found a lump under the skin on his chest, it was painful so he got really worried. After he heard the story of his friend who got cured by homeopathic doctor, he thought he will give a try. After 2 weeks of taking homeopathic remedies the lump disappeared completely. I wish I could see such a results using so call conventional medicine.

[@simstar6557]

Sounds like a common case of lymph node inflammation. They usually auto resolve, but should be checked for worse things. This is how people get fooled into thinking honeopathy works. So yeah, we can laugh.

[@LK-hz2rg]

@@simstar6557Possibly you right Sim Star. After doing scans, doctors told him to do biopsy, but it was not necessary because the lump disappeared completely after taking medication prescribed by homeopathic doctor. What would you say two years ago if I told you at that time, that soon planes will stop flying, everything will shut, people will wear masks and distance themselves due to new virus and worldwide pandemic? Would you laugh and say it is impossible? Sure, you can laugh, however remember that everybody laughed about the ideas of Copernicus at first. I keep my mind open. All the best.

[@simstar6557]

@@LK-hz2rg The doctors want to rule out cancer, usually isn't, but better to test than not. Epidemiologists have been warning about a pandemic for a while. They always said it was a matter of when, not if, and this isn't the last one. Homeopathy is total quackery. You didn't get it still. “The principles of homeopathy contradict known chemical, physical and biological laws and persuasive scientific trials proving its effectiveness are not available” Russian Academy of Sciences, Russia “Homeopathy should not be used to treat health conditions that are chronic, serious, or could become serious. People who choose homeopathy may put their health at risk if they reject or delay treatments for which there is good evidence for safety and effectiveness.” National Health and Medical Research Council, Australia “These products are not supported by scientific evidence.” Health Canada, Canada “Homeopathic remedies don’t meet the criteria of evidence based medicine.” Hungarian Academy of Sciences, Hungary “The incorporation of anthroposophical and homeopathic products in the Swedish directive on medicinal products would run counter to several of the fundamental principles regarding medicinal products and evidence-based medicine.” Swedish Academy of Sciences, Sweden “We recommend parents and caregivers not give homeopathic teething tablets and gels to children and seek advice from their health care professional for safe alternatives.” Food and Drug Administration, USA “There is little evidence to support homeopathy as an effective treatment for any specific condition” National Centre for Complementary and Integrative Health, USA “There is no good-quality evidence that homeopathy is effective as a treatment for any health condition” National Health Service, UK “Homeopathic remedies perform no better than placebos, and that the principles on which homeopathy is based are “scientifically implausible”” House of Commons Science and Technology Committee, UK

[@LK-hz2rg]

@@simstar6557 Sim Star, be careful, arogance is very close to ignorance. I think you didn't get my point. I got your point and I said, you are possibly right. You said that I'm wrong. That is the difference. The fact that homeopathy is not proved to be effective by those institutions which you just mentioned, doesn't mean its not working. When Copernicus ''has put the sun at the centre", at that time everybody claimed it was a nonsense.

[@simstar6557]

@@LK-hz2rg Correct. I didn't say homeopathy is possibly wrong, its definitely wrong. All those academies totally proved it wrong. Homeopaths in 200 years couldn't prove any single one if their thousands of remedies. All BS. You can hide any BS behind Copernicus excuse. Thing is, you don't understand science, but you think you do.

[@Xx.bygracethrufaith]

It would be great if you could provide links to the studies mentioned!

[@purrcheeze5014]

Here the papers mentioned: -Homeopathy and experimental infections: In vivo and in vitro experiments with bacteria, fungi and protozoan. -Effects of Homeopathic Phosphorus on Encephalitozoon cuniculi-Infected Macrophages In-Vitro. -Immunomodulation of Homeopathic Thymulin 5CH in a BCG-Induced Granuloma Model. -Randomised placebo-controlled trials of individualised homeopathic treatment: systematic review and meta-analysis. -Replication of an experiment on extremely diluted thyroxine and highland amphibians. -Development of a test system for homeopathic preparations using impaired duckweed (Lemna gibba L. -Reproducibility of the effects of homeopathically potentised Argentum nitricum on the growth of Lemna gibba L. in a randomised and blinded bioassay. -Impact of physician preferences for homeopathic or conventional medicines on patients with muskuloskeltal disorders: Results from the EPI3-MSD cohort. -Efficacy of individualized homeopathic treatment of insomnia: Double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled clinical trial. -Potentized estrogen in homeopathic treatment of endometriosis-associated pelvic pain: A 24-week, randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study. -Is homoeopathy a placebo response? Controlled trial of homoeopathic potency, with pollen in hayfever as model. -How healthy are chronically ill patients after eight years of homeopathic treatment?--Results from a long term observational study.

[@bettinaberger7298]

If you use public databases and enter names like Stephan Baumgarten, Claudia Witt, Bernhard Harrer you will finde them.

[@xx-rr3ug]

can we please move past this placebo effect debate. This has been going on far too long!

[@DominiqueBau]

Oui, mais il faut aussi comprendre qu'il faut combattre les mensonges sur l'effet placebo. De toutes façons, on a pas le choix quand tu as des dictateurs qui veulent posséder ton pays, alors, c'est la guerre. Mais merci pour ton message qui a du sens. *-*-*-* Yes, but you also have to understand that you have to fight the lies about the placebo effect. Anyway, we have no choice when you have dictators who want to own your country, so it's war. But thank you for your meaningful message.

[@simstar6557]

There is no debate. “The principles of homeopathy contradict known chemical, physical and biological laws and persuasive scientific trials proving its effectiveness are not available” Russian Academy of Sciences, Russia “Homeopathy should not be used to treat health conditions that are chronic, serious, or could become serious. People who choose homeopathy may put their health at risk if they reject or delay treatments for which there is good evidence for safety and effectiveness.” National Health and Medical Research Council, Australia “These products are not supported by scientific evidence.” Health Canada, Canada “Homeopathic remedies don’t meet the criteria of evidence based medicine.” Hungarian Academy of Sciences, Hungary “The incorporation of anthroposophical and homeopathic products in the Swedish directive on medicinal products would run counter to several of the fundamental principles regarding medicinal products and evidence-based medicine.” Swedish Academy of Sciences, Sweden “We recommend parents and caregivers not give homeopathic teething tablets and gels to children and seek advice from their health care professional for safe alternatives.” Food and Drug Administration, USA “There is little evidence to support homeopathy as an effective treatment for any specific condition” National Centre for Complementary and Integrative Health, USA “There is no good-quality evidence that homeopathy is effective as a treatment for any health condition” National Health Service, UK “Homeopathic remedies perform no better than placebos, and that the principles on which homeopathy is based are “scientifically implausible”” House of Commons Science and Technology Committee, UK

[@xx-rr3ug]

Congratulations on the copy paste technique

[@purrcheeze5014]

@@DominiqueBau "SImStar, why don't you ever tell them you copied that from a blog? Everyone should know that you are a multi-account troll who likes himself and copy paste the same biased content no based on peer reviewed literature.

[@simstar6557]

@@purrcheeze5014 LOL, I actually got it from a Spectator article that Edzard wrote. I love how it winds you guys up.

[@vanessaroberts917]

Yes it does work!! I know first hand, I watched my daughter who was heavily medicated go through different stages to get back to her normal self!! It took months and months for her to fully recover.

[@simstar6557]

"Months and months" means time cured her, not the pills.

[@vanessaroberts917]

@@simstar6557 she only had to have the remedies when certain behaviours arise. But we also made sure that she ate well lots of fruit and vegetables etc...no processed food, daily exercise and so on. I have faith in homeopathy.

[@simstar6557]

@@vanessaroberts917 how do you know it's not food and exercise that did it then? People say they have faith, when they don't really know but want to believe.

[@vanessaroberts917]

@@simstar6557 if I didnt believe in homeopathy then I wouldn't have gone to see a homeopath. I talk about my daughters experience with the homeopath who actually is epileptic and also comes from a family of doctors too. So I dont give a !@#$ about what other people think or say...its an individual choice...I choose homeopathy and I have no regrets!!!

[@simstar6557]

@@vanessaroberts917 you can believe whatever you want. An anecdote is not evidence however.

[@Notalloldpeople]

Can someone post me a link to a peer reviewed paper conducted under I internationally accepted rules by independent bodies which shows that homeopathic remedies have any efficacy beyond which can be explained by placebo? Could the physicist point me to a similar paper which explains how water memory works?

[@purrcheeze5014]

Some double blind placebo controlled rials are mentioned in the video!

[@symbiont8081]

No, because there are no such papers.

[@dr.alokumar]

Search HHF Homeopathy research section

[@dr.alokumar]

@@symbiont8081 search HHF homeopathy research section. Read it thoroughly.

[@symbiont8081]

@@dr.alokumar No. No, i don't think i will waste my time.

[@maqafbridalsacademy3215]

Homeopathy is not just a placebo , I believe this works upto your cell levels and your neurone level the moment you put a drop on your tongue it's starts working .. once you got all the antibodies made by homeopathy in your blood .. this medicine is more than a miracle to the medical world ❤️ it is a real medicine ❤️❤️❤️

[@avestator3763]

Antibodies made by homeopathy would be an allergic reaction. Maybe you should see a doctor

[@simstar6557]

It is a placebo when it needs belief.

[@purrcheeze5014]

@@simstar6557 And why haven't you been able to prove the placebo hypothesis?

[@simstar6557]

@@purrcheeze5014 Placebo hypothesis is not proved, its disproved. That is like the very first lesson in hypothesis testing. Everything is nothing but a placebo until proven to be not. And nothing has been shown to be not a placebo in homeopathy. That is what all this means 😆. “The principles of homeopathy contradict known chemical, physical and biological laws and persuasive scientific trials proving its effectiveness are not available” Russian Academy of Sciences, Russia “Homeopathy should not be used to treat health conditions that are chronic, serious, or could become serious. People who choose homeopathy may put their health at risk if they reject or delay treatments for which there is good evidence for safety and effectiveness.” National Health and Medical Research Council, Australia “These products are not supported by scientific evidence.” Health Canada, Canada “Homeopathic remedies don’t meet the criteria of evidence based medicine.” Hungarian Academy of Sciences, Hungary “The incorporation of anthroposophical and homeopathic products in the Swedish directive on medicinal products would run counter to several of the fundamental principles regarding medicinal products and evidence-based medicine.” Swedish Academy of Sciences, Sweden “We recommend parents and caregivers not give homeopathic teething tablets and gels to children and seek advice from their health care professional for safe alternatives.” Food and Drug Administration, USA “There is little evidence to support homeopathy as an effective treatment for any specific condition” National Centre for Complementary and Integrative Health, USA “There is no good-quality evidence that homeopathy is effective as a treatment for any health condition” National Health Service, UK “Homeopathic remedies perform no better than placebos, and that the principles on which homeopathy is based are “scientifically implausible”” House of Commons Science and Technology Committee, UK

[@simstar6557]

@@purrcheeze5014 Poor Lollypop, you can't name one scientific organization that says homeopathy is not quackery. 😂

[@purrcheeze5014]

I thought I'd find something new, but I notice that "SimStar" keeps quoting only newspaper articles of dubious credibility. I've read everything "SimStar" has shared and I'm bored. Please, people, if you encounter "SimStar" avoid responding to him, it is no use reasoning with him. 🙏

[@simstar6557]

No newspaper of non dubious quality reports homeopathy as anything but quackery. That's the whole point of this whiny video. The video pretends that homeopathy just has a media problem, not a science problem, which is a lie.

[@simstar6557]

Go and search all reporting on aaron rodgers homeopathy. Every credible newspaper considers homeopathy quackery.

[@simstar6557]

"Reasoning" = hey troll, why don't you ignore all government reports, academies and top journals and just believe these fake journals, students and cranks instead.

[@purrcheeze5014]

I'm glad to share the new evidence in homeopathy. Year: 2021 "This suggests that overall Arnica and antiinflammatories are largely comparable" 2021: "Agrohomeopathy is scientific knowledge that complements traditional agriculture, considering itself as an alternative for agricultural production, which is currently in constant evolution, with great scientific advances and at the same time taking advantage of ancestral knowledge" 2021: "This study concluded that X-Ray Diffraction (XRD) and thermal analysis techniques Thermogravimetric (TG or TGA), Differential Thermogravimetric analysis (DTA) and Differential Scanning Calorimetry (DSC) are promising for standardization of Ferrum Phosphoricum 3X, 6X, and 12X trituration’s and can be used for the analysis of other biochemic salts as well"

[@simstar6557]

Agrohomeopathy: Let's scam farmers as well. 🐒 LOL: I sure hope you are not trying to make a career in this scam.

[@simstar6557]

The fun begins at 23X 😄. Standardize 30C. Oh wait, it's just water.

[@bardaasht007]

Hi, all believers in natural and curative system of medicine. HRI is located in london and claims to have lots of research under the hood by eminent personalities in scientific fields, then why has NHS withdrawn funding for homeopathic establishments around london since 2017. Isn't this research enough to convince the NHS and other institutions across the globe to fund, promote better sciences?

[@PKDutta]

The real question is how its working? Whats the method? Whats the science? You all are telling it works! You may show millions of cases where people are being cured by Homeopathy. But I just want to know how! How homeopathy medecines function in human body? Give some scientific references at least. I am not against any community. As a science-lover I am just curious to know more about this.

[@bubicaau]

No, homeopathy is NOT placebo, and my dog Narla knows that best!

[@simstar6557]

Homeopathy does not work in animals either. There are science papers on how owners are fooled to think so though.

[@purrcheeze5014]

@@simstar6557 If you get paid for posting nonsense at least make sure you get paid well because you live every day posting the same nonsense comments. What's the matter my friend? Does homeopathy threaten your ideological interests?

[@simstar6557]

@@purrcheeze5014 Homeopathy curing animals is nonsense even according to Homeopathy nonsense. How will you personalize a treatment? Do you speak dog, the barking language? 🙉

[@bubicaau]

@@simstar6557 You mean my dog is fooled?

[@purrcheeze5014]

@@simstar6557 Your comment makes no sense and serves no purpose, is non sense. Veterinary homeopaths cannot interrogate their patients, but they can base the prescription of a medicine on the symptoms and the common differential diagnosis. Clearly you are completely ignorant and just a troll. Oh, don't forget read the evidence published in peer reviewed literature! 2019: "After evaluating the scientific trials, it can be determined that the measure of cure depended on the selected homeopathic remedy, the pathogen, study conditions and individual conditions of the farm. Homeopathy has shown in some studies that it can have a better effect (partly significant) compared to placebo. The criticism of homeopathy as a placebo effect could be refuted by the results of these studies."

[@purrcheeze5014]

Mr. Simstar is very angry, it seems that in his normal life he is very unhappy and needs to get even. Maybe the troll bot had no love when he was young, maybe he has always been very ugly at heart, maybe he has no family that really loves him.

[@simstar6557]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@simstar6557]

Mr. Troll Star kicks puppies and eats kittens, maybe. Your ad hominems need work. Too watered down. Like homeopathy 😄.

[@purrcheeze5014]

@@simstar6557 It is clear that you are very violent, paranoid and frustrated. :C

[@simstar6557]

@@purrcheeze5014 getting better...

[@purrcheeze5014]

@@simstar6557 Yes, you are better at manipulating, although it is becoming more and more obvious.

[@IBN-n3q]

I think homeopathy works even better than allopathy in some cases.

[@user-pg3iq5ro5k]

Yes, because Allopathy is just a fictional medicine invented by Homeopaths. 😂

[@purrcheeze5014]

"SimStar often mentions the article by Anurag Mehra and colleagues a lot, but it doesn't make sense. They say that Chikramane's article is invalid because they did not standardize the dinamization nor used methods to avoid contamination. But Chikramane's article proves otherwise. How is it possible that "The Wire" would publish such an appalling piece of disinformation? I continue to read carefully the articles that troll SimStar has left me, and each time I become more and more convinced that he knows nothing about science. Please avoid responding to him, he is all about provoking and reporting comments, he always repeats the same thing. Keep in mind that "SimStar" is a multi-account troll, he never responds with arguments but with already discarded reports that have been completely debunked in peer review literature. If you can report his account as spam or harassment you're welcome.

[@simstar6557]

Chikramane was a student. You confused him to be a professor for a long time. The Wire authors are his teachers 😄 and they completely dismiss his silly experiment.

[@simstar6557]

99% scientists agree with what the IIT academics wrote in The Wire. You only met incompetent ones. It is also why you failed to find a single serious science academy saying that even one remedy in homeopathy works. Also why no top tier journal even looks at it anymore after NHMRC, the report that quacks want to bury. You should be thanking me for waking you up from a hallucination and apologizing for the extended denial. You only have an excuse if you are being paid for this, Or if someone in your close family was a homeopathy quack. Early indoctrination.

[@jajojajomalijajo]

Could we also inform google about it? Or world rules will delete this video too..

[@evilgaming0077]

Ok, but you never addressed how it works...? You just said it does because of the tests. And you also didn't present clearly how you separated it from the Placebo effect. If anyone is reading this, let me ask you: what molecules are in what you are taking and how do those help you?

[@sigmundz9222]

No mirror is needed to watch hands

[@evilgaming0077]

@@sigmundz9222 no muscles are necessary to move around, but I don't see how this is relevant at all?

[@purrcheeze5014]

It is a video, the information is in the articles they present. :C

[@simstar6557]

The tests? They didn't. Which is why Spain, UK and France booted them humiliatingly out of public health. These fake studies are Homeopaths begging them to take them back. But they will not believe them.... EVER!!!

[@evilgaming0077]

@@simstar6557 well I think they would take them back if they can prove that this new force of physics that magically "helps" you is real, if you know what I mean...

[@SWARAHOMEOCLINIC]

Thank you for this informative video, kindly add subtitles to it so that it can also be shared with lay people who will understand the effectivity of homeopathy & will get benefited by it.

[@simstar6557]

The video is propaganda misinformation. Unless you are a quack, you can share the quotes below with them instead. “The principles of homeopathy contradict known chemical, physical and biological laws and persuasive scientific trials proving its effectiveness are not available” Russian Academy of Sciences, Russia “Homeopathy should not be used to treat health conditions that are chronic, serious, or could become serious. People who choose homeopathy may put their health at risk if they reject or delay treatments for which there is good evidence for safety and effectiveness.” National Health and Medical Research Council, Australia “These products are not supported by scientific evidence.” Health Canada, Canada “Homeopathic remedies don’t meet the criteria of evidence based medicine.” Hungarian Academy of Sciences, Hungary “The incorporation of anthroposophical and homeopathic products in the Swedish directive on medicinal products would run counter to several of the fundamental principles regarding medicinal products and evidence-based medicine.” Swedish Academy of Sciences, Sweden “We recommend parents and caregivers not give homeopathic teething tablets and gels to children and seek advice from their health care professional for safe alternatives.” Food and Drug Administration, USA “There is little evidence to support homeopathy as an effective treatment for any specific condition” National Centre for Complementary and Integrative Health, USA “There is no good-quality evidence that homeopathy is effective as a treatment for any health condition” National Health Service, UK “Homeopathic remedies perform no better than placebos, and that the principles on which homeopathy is based are “scientifically implausible”” House of Commons Science and Technology Committee, UK

[@purrcheeze5014]

@@simstar6557 Oh, no, again with your same blog copy-paste. Let's see, all the statements you express boil down to three things: the alleged "implausibility", the "lack of efficacy", the "low quality" of the evidence and the "pseudoscience status". This statements can be debunked easily! 2013: "To return to the crossword analogy: there is evidence for the primary entry (homeopathy is not merely a placebo effect). This seems incompatible with intersecting entries, particularly those concerning possible mechanisms of action of very high dilutions. There is evidence, with replication including in multicentre experiments and independent replications, that ultra-molecular dilutions can exert biological effects. The fact that the mediator of these effects is currently unknown is valid ground for scepticism but not for extreme, yet vague, claims that homeopathy overturns much of existing knowledge. The suggestion that the homeopathic preparation process might transmit information no more contradicts established scientific laws than does the storage of information, by physical rather than chemical processes, in a magnetic medium." 2016: "It follows that quantum effects coming from vacuum fluctuations leading to coherent domains formation should really needed to be taken seriously into account before attempting modeling liquid water properties. Neglecting the influence of the vacuum and the coherence domains structure in the presence of nanobubbles should then be responsible for the contradictory and controversial results reported in past literature where the exact status of dissolved gases were not studied." 2017: "In our present review, we have examined the tautopathic hypothesis that a homeopathic potency or dilution of a pathogenic agent can induce, stimulate or support ameliorative, protective or reparative functions and adaptations in organisms, organs or tissues that have been infected, injured or poisoned by that agent. Based on our review, hundreds of studies (not all of which are cited here) have been conducted to support this hypothesis." 2018: "Homeopathy is a controversial field of study, so much that it has even been considered by some philosophers of science as a fraud. The question of homeopathy as pseudoscience can be approached with at least two strategies: a) evaluating the main arguments of so-called skeptics of “pseudoscience”, and b) discussing the main demarcation criteria between science or pseudoscience proposed by the philosopher Mario Bunge. We take both approaches and will discuss some points to favor or against homeopathy. Since the beginning, Bunge’s demarcation was considered as the most reliable “evidence” against homeopathy. A primary goal of this article is to provide some examples to illustrate the debate. At the end, this article demonstrates that the Bunge’s demarcation is an act of faith that is ultimately completely invalid in comparison to the contemporary growing body of scientific evidence. On the basis of the discussion presented in the article, the Bunge’s demarcation must not be used to provide any definitive categorizations." 2018: "This bibliographic review w as conducted through search Scholar Google by typing these words: homeopathy, homeopathy remedies and water´s memory. Thirty original articles and 15 bibliographic reviews were chosen for the word homeopathy; 26 original articles and 12 bibliographic reviews for the combination of words homeopathy remedies, as well as 30 original articles and 10 bibliographic reviews for the combination of words water´s memory. Those 123 references were analyzed to check the ones that would be useful for the achievement of the article’s objective, choosing those that appear as bibliographical references. Development: the theory of homeopathy, the diseases’ causes and the way to prepare homeopathic medicine are tackled. Also some research about homeopathy in the world is analyzed, where the existence of favorable results to homeopathic products can be noticed. Besides, possible mechanisms of action of homeopathy are explained and some reasons for which some people are septic with homeopathic medicine are showed." 2018: "Thus it can be concluded from the above studies that homeopathic medicines reaches nano-scale range by potentization, i.e., serial dilution with systematic succussion." 2020: "Thus, the present study reported by the authors, shows through research and tests carried out, that the use of homeopathy is a treatment that can lead to the improvement of individuals in viral conditions, in addition to becoming a cheaper method, and with reduction or absence of adverse effects in relation to the allopathic method in the most used antiretroviral treatment today." 2020: "In conclusion, evidence for the effectiveness of human and veterinary homeopathy in general, and in particular, of homeopathic treatment for infections, is available. Especially, individualized homeopathy demonstrates effects at all quality levels according to Cochrane criteria, even in the methodologically high-quality studies. As in most areas of veterinary medicine and medicine, further good/excellent studies are necessary." 2020: "Highly diluted medicines in Homeopathy have been a controversial subject among health professional. Potencies above Avogadro’s number were suspected nothing more than placebo. But now, it has been proved from various studies that Homeopathic remedies still contain starting drug material in the form of Nano-particles even at high dilutions. So, there needs to be a paradigm shift in considering Homeopathic medicines mere a placebo effect after 12 C potency. This explains the mechanism, how homeopathy works when potencies cross Avogadro’s number apparently." 2020: "This review article concluded that Homeopathic Arnica Montana (both oral and topical) is an effective remedy in reducing pain, swelling, and ecchymosis in post-traumatic cases. Arnica as a single remedy or in the form of combination with other Homeopathic remedies showed good results. After reviewing all the research articles, we concluded that few studies failed to prove the efficacy of homeopathic remedy Arnica in future, methodologically strong studies should be conducted. More randomized placebo controlled studies should be conducted to evaluate the efficacy of Arnica Montana in cases other than post-traumatic issues." 2020: "In the past decades, opposition of medical authorities to homeopathy has increased, despite growing RCT evidence. Kuhn concluded that the paradigmatic base of scientific authority prohibits recognition of another paradigm. Several fallacies are applied to reverse positive evidence into negative". 2021: "Há na história, e persistem até os dias atuais, diversos estudiosos e influenciadores mundiais que contribuíram à introdução, explanação médica e popular e oficialização da prática homeopática, com pesquisas e publicações científicas, entre outras defesas e atividades correlacionadas, em prol do emprego desta ciência como tratamento da integralidade sintomática do indivíduo ou em caráter epidemiológico em populações." 2021: "The mathematical approach is utilized here in order to enhance/reinforce/explain mathematically the experimental findings. Thus, the belief that there is nothing from starting materials but only the solvent in ultra high diluted succussed solution products solutions after 12ch potency is not valid. However, these ultra-highly diluted succussed medicinal products are manufactured in such a way, that approaches theories which would be capable to interpret/support, fully and deeply, our experimental findings, such as fractal and Shannon information (entropy) theories." 2021: "The experimental evidence indicates that the highly potentized homeopathic preparations, that is, diluted beyond the Avogadro limit, exhibit physicochemical properties different from the control of un-potentized samples. This could be possible because of an increase in the solvent’s molecular dynamics for the potentized preparation."

[@simstar6557]

@@purrcheeze5014 did you get this copy paste crock from HRI?

[@purrcheeze5014]

@@simstar6557 Ha, ha, ha, ha, no, the comments quoted are not a copy of the HRI; are the conclusions of scientific reviews.

[@simstar6557]

@@purrcheeze5014 😂 predatory journals and CAM journals aren't scientific consensus.

[@hellymozz4080]

Homeopathy works. It worked on my dog and that's not placebo. X

[@Strand0410]

I'm sure your dog told you exactly how well those sugar pills worked 😂

[@Stepho789]

PLEASE LINK THE REVIEWS!!!! I can not prove it to people just using this video

[@zarro110]

You won't find them, as all the literature shows that homeopathy performs no better then placebo

[@hmgrraarrpffrzz9763]

There are no reviews. The channel made it all up.

[@happierabroad]

If it works on plants and animals, then it's not placebo. Very simple.

[@user-pg3iq5ro5k]

It doesn't. Those are just trash papers to fool silly users 😂.

[@purrcheeze5014]

Not Wikipedia, not media outlets, only peer reviewed literature. 2003: "Many experiments maintaining suitable controls have been done mainly with an objective to demonstrate the efficacy of potentized form of homeopathic drugs most commonly by using mammalian models like mice and rats, and occasionally other higher mammals like cattle or horse" 2010: "Coming back to Montagnier's paper [17], our successive NMR studies since 2004 argue for the presence of nanosized superstructures in high dilutions prepared under strong agitation" 2013: "Frequency domain signatures were recorded for distilled water, distilled water ? un-medicated globule, Arnica.. Mont.-30c, 200c; Anacardium Orientalis-30c and 200c.So, influence of medicine on water structure is undeniable" 2013: "At the end of this twenty-year research on high dilutions, I have reached the conviction that such disturbances not only exist but can persist in the ultramolecular range beyond 12c. My conviction is based on the reproducible observation of an increase in the T1/T2 ratio as a function of dilution, never observed in controls submitted to strictly similar dilution/agitation process. Moreover, analyses of data restricted to the highest levels of dilutions (>6c, 9c, 12c) ruled out any potential interference from the most concentrated samples" 2015: "Actually by the existence of cluster nanostructures which are in entangled state in homeopathic water preparations, the effect of steady homeopathic influence of these preparations on alive organisms are explained" 2015: "Both the presence of sulphur as well as succussion phenomenon is responsible for the variation of the physicochemical properties of these homoeopathic formulations" 2019: "Evidence suggests that each homeopathic medicine is a complex multi-component, core-shell and/or doped nano-structured system ranging in sizes from 1 to 100 nm in diameter and exhibiting properties of self-organization, self-similarity, and emergence" 2020: "A novel method is proposed for processing oxide powders with the structure of Aurivillius phases of Bi3TiNbO9 which results in an increase in the piezoelectric modulus of high-temperature ceramics produced from them. This method is based on the ultra high dilution of the original powders. It is easy to use, does not require expensive doping with high-purity materials, and does not add significant costs" 2020: "Homeopathy, trying to bring the patient to that state of physical, social and psychological well-being, which is indefinable and unconscious. Homeopathic prophylaxis in Cuba has set high the principles of Community Medicine and once again demonstrates the broad vision of a Cuban socialist healthcare system" 2021: "This suggests that physicochemical properties expressed in the buffering capacity of ultra-high aqueous dilutions may be related to their structural heterogeneity" 2021: "Water has been anomalous, and scientific understanding about it is increasing. Further, the activities of nature at the nanoscale are now becoming more evident. The biological activity of serially diluted succussed solutions, even beyond the physical presence of solute, now seems scientifically plausible"

[@simstar6557]

Trash written in predatory journals and by quacks.

[@purrcheeze5014]

@@simstar6557 This time I have only posted quotes from journals indexed in pubmed that are not qualified as "predatory", with this I have shown that you don't read anything and are just a very dumb troll.

[@simstar6557]

@@purrcheeze5014 lots of predatory trash in PubMed. That's why I said bring Lancet, Nature etc.

[@purrcheeze5014]

@@simstar6557 Oh, sure, tell that to the people in charge of PubMed and see what they say. Let me know when Wikipedia is considered in the databases. :D

[@simstar6557]

@@purrcheeze5014 They already know.

[@freedomishealthy1086]

Homeopathy works in vitro - i.e. cells in a petri dish, respond to different homeopathic remedies differently.

[@simstar6557]

If Homeopathy worked in vitro, Luc Montagnier and Benveniste would not have been laughing stocks.

[@simstar6557]

No one can identify homeopathic remedies apart using ANY method at 30C. Homeopathic pseudoscience articles say they can but will not accept a challenge to do so.

[@freedomishealthy1086]

@@simstar6557 is that Luc Montagnier the nobel-prizewinning scientist. He didn’t go crazy, he’s right.

[@simstar6557]

@@freedomishealthy1086 He did go crazy and is now ridiculed.

[@simstar6557]

@@freedomishealthy1086 here is a Nobel Laureate who is right. Homeopathy is bogus, harmful: Nobel laureate Venkatraman Ramakrishnan Calling homeopathy and astrology useless and harmful practices, Nobel laureate Venkatraman Ramakrishnan came down heavily on the two, saying real science is far more interesting than “bogus” fields.

[@Nagaland46]

Homeopathy is the toughest medical science in the world.

[@simstar6557]

Toughest quackery in the world. No amount of facts or common sense can kill it.

[@simstar6557]

None of these reports from the leading scientific academies and health organisations can touch it. Incredible science resistance. Complete immunity from intelligence. “The principles of homeopathy contradict known chemical, physical and biological laws and persuasive scientific trials proving its effectiveness are not available” Russian Academy of Sciences, Russia “Homeopathy should not be used to treat health conditions that are chronic, serious, or could become serious. People who choose homeopathy may put their health at risk if they reject or delay treatments for which there is good evidence for safety and effectiveness.” National Health and Medical Research Council, Australia “These products are not supported by scientific evidence.” Health Canada, Canada “Homeopathic remedies don’t meet the criteria of evidence based medicine.” Hungarian Academy of Sciences, Hungary “The incorporation of anthroposophical and homeopathic products in the Swedish directive on medicinal products would run counter to several of the fundamental principles regarding medicinal products and evidence-based medicine.” Swedish Academy of Sciences, Sweden “We recommend parents and caregivers not give homeopathic teething tablets and gels to children and seek advice from their health care professional for safe alternatives.” Food and Drug Administration, USA “There is little evidence to support homeopathy as an effective treatment for any specific condition” National Centre for Complementary and Integrative Health, USA “There is no good-quality evidence that homeopathy is effective as a treatment for any health condition” National Health Service, UK “Homeopathic remedies perform no better than placebos, and that the principles on which homeopathy is based are “scientifically implausible”” House of Commons Science and Technology Committee, UK

[@purrcheeze5014]

@@simstar6557 “The principles of homeopathy contradict known chemical, physical and biological laws and persuasive scientific trials proving its effectiveness are not available, Russian Academy of Sciences, Russia” Peer reviewed?: No. Review of the literature? No. This is a copy of the EASAC report. Comments: The commission uses an email with the domain yandex as a contact email and not an official email of the Russian Academy of Sciences. “Homeopathy should not be used to treat health conditions that are chronic, serious, or could become serious. People who choose homeopathy may put their health at risk if they reject or delay treatments for which there is good evidence for safety and effectiveness National Health and Medical Research Council, Australia” Peer reviewed?: No. Review of the literature? Yes. Ana Kelso declared: “Contrary to some claims, the review did not conclude that homeopathy was ineffective”. “These products are not supported by scientific evidence.” Health Canada, Canada Peer reviewed?: No. Review of the literature? No. The source does not exist, possibly it was removed from the original site. “Homeopathic remedies don’t meet the criteria of evidence based medicine.” Hungarian Academy of Sciences, Hungary Peer reviewed?: No. Review of the literature? No. It is just a comment and an opinion. It is not valid as evidence. “The incorporation of anthroposophical and homeopathic products in the Swedish directive on medicinal products would run counter to several of the fundamental principles regarding medicinal products and evidence-based medicine.” Swedish Academy of Sciences, Sweden Peer reviewed?: No. Review of the literature? No. It is based on three reviews that have already been debunked. “We recommend parents and caregivers not give homeopathic teething tablets and gels to children and seek advice from their health care professional for safe alternatives.” Food and Drug Administration, USA Peer reviewed?: No. Review of the literature? No. It is a commentary in which damage correlates between the ingestion of some Belladonna tablets with damage in children. The comments do not come from toxicology reports, but from mothers' anecdotes. “There is little evidence to support homeopathy as an effective treatment for any specific condition” National Centre for Complementary and Integrative Health, USA Peer reviewed?: No. Review of the literature? No. The NCCIH has qualified its position: “Homeopathy is a controversial topic. A number of the key concepts underlying the theory of homeopathy are not consistent with fundamental scientific concepts as we understand them. For example, homeopathic preparations can be so dilute that a substance considered to be the “active ingredient” becomes unmeasurable, which creates major challenges to the rigorous investigation of such products. However, recent research has begun to examine physical attributes of these preparations to determine if it will be possible to characterize them in the future.” “There is no good-quality evidence that homeopathy is effective as a treatment for any health condition” National Health Service, UK Peer reviewed?: No. Review of the literature? Yes. This review is cherry picking and ironically includes an article published in a predatory journal. However, troll SimStar has no problem as long as the results prove him "right". “Homeopathic remedies perform no better than placebos, and that the principles on which homeopathy is based are “scientifically implausible”” House of Commons Science and Technology Committee, UK Peer reviewed?: No. Review of the literature? No. Has a serious conflict of interest with Sense About Science, partner of Monsanto.

[@simstar6557]

@@purrcheeze5014 that's the fact immunity I was talking about. Attagirl.

[@simstar6557]

Its so "tough" that no student who ever qualified for any healthcare training in a real university ever chooses homeopathy instead 😂😂😂.

[@hmgrraarrpffrzz9763]

Funny that a pro-homeopathy channel claims that homeopathy is real. XD It's just a pity that there is no independent research supporting the claims of this advertisement channel.

[@simstar6557]

Austria just said they won't pay for homeopathy. Actually they said they won't pay for things with no proof of effectiveness and only listed homeopathy as the example 😂. Why do I have to pay for some services myself? The Austrian Health Insurance Fund (ÖGK) ensures comprehensive medical care. Medical services that do not treat illness or contribute to preventive health care are, however, to be paid by the insured themselves. In the following cases you have to pay for the services yourself, even if you use a contract doctor: Sports or driver's license examinations Exemptions from physical education Vaccinations (if they are not medical treatment) medical second opinion Requests for care leave Pre-employment examinations when starting work Treatments for which there is no scientific medical proof of effectiveness (e.g. homeopathy) purely cosmetic treatments Investigations to clarify disability, occupational disability, incapacity for work

[@purrcheeze5014]

"and only listed homeopathy as the example" You are a big liar. The insurance in Austria also does not include vaccinations. :C "Sport- oder Führerscheinuntersuchungen Befreiungen vom Turnunterricht Impfungen (wenn sie keine Krankenbehandlung sind) ärztliche Zweitmeinungen Pflegefreistellungsersuchen Einstellungsuntersuchungen bei Dienstantritt Behandlungen, für die kein wissenschaftlicher medizinischer Wirkungsnachweis vorliegt (zB Homöopathie) rein kosmetische Behandlungen Untersuchungen zur Abklärung einer Invalidität, Berufsunfähigkeit, Erwerbsunfähigkeit "

[@simstar6557]

@@purrcheeze5014 only if they are not medical treatment..... Like nosodes, for example 😆. Impfungen (wenn sie keine Krankenbehandlung sind)

[@simstar6557]

@@purrcheeze5014 do you really think people are paying for Covid, Polio and MMR vaccines over there? 😄

[@simstar6557]

@@purrcheeze5014 you are just a Google hound. No sense of reality. Free vaccinations for adults and young people over the age of15 Vaccination with 1 vaccine against 3 diseases (combined vaccine): Measles, mumps and rubella,, catch up vaccination for those who have not yet been vaccinated twice. Vaccination against polio (poliomyelitis) as a single vaccination - free of charge before the age of 21 (only at vaccination centres for the Public Health Services of the City of Vienna - Town Town vaccination centre and local district health authorities). Obviously, if you are an antivaxxer who has been brainwashed against recommended combined vaccines, they won't indulge you.

[@logan6232]

Homepathy is real. fixed my sson

[@logan6232]

he wass gay

[@simstar6557]

“Overall, the findings suggest a concerning lack of scientific and ethical standards in the field of homeopathy and a high risk for reporting bias,” the scientists wrote in their paper, published Wednesday in the journal BMJ Evidence Based Medicine. "Homeopathy is probably the clearest modern day example of junk medicine still around, and as this new research suggests, so too is the science meant to support it." Again, this shouldn’t come as a surprise, given that nothing about homeopathy makes any sense.

[@purrcheeze5014]

"Only a small number of the Cochrane collaboration's systematic reviews support clinical interventions with no need for additional research". Bad luck.

[@simstar6557]

@@purrcheeze5014 Copy pasting your new favorite talking points that have no relevance here? The paper is saying homeopathy research cannot be trusted due to severe publication bias.

[@purrcheeze5014]

@@simstar6557 Trusted by whom? Yaw, half of conventional medicine trial are biased versus only 25% in outcoume bias.

[@simstar6557]

@@purrcheeze5014 what's with the Yaws? That's a new one for you.

[@simstar6557]

@@purrcheeze5014 is HRI putting up a different employee behind the account after the original Purry got depressed?

[@Stepho789]

thank you for all the research you have done though

[@simstar6557]

OK Purry, let's address your charge that I ignore The Lancet articles and call them predatory. List all the homeopathy articles from just The Lancet in the last 5 years. Provide a list of citations, don't cherry pick text. You were taught how to cite, weren't you, Miss. Scientist?

[@purrcheeze5014]

Ha ha ha ha ha, you never answered the list of questions I left you three months ago. You asked me for evidence from homeopathy articles published in Lancet and I gave it to you, and now since you can't deny it you invent an arbitrary 5 year limit as if that negates the conclusions of the three positive meta-analyses published in Lancet.

[@simstar6557]

@@purrcheeze5014 it's not arbitrary Purry. That's since the Australian report you quacks hate so much came out.

[@purrcheeze5014]

@@simstar6557 Ah, the Australian report, the same one that the CEO says doesn't conclude what the media says? The same one that admits that they found numerous articles published in mainstream journals? :D

[@purrcheeze5014]

@@simstar6557 The Lancet, 1997: "If the missing trials had an average odds ratio of 1 (that is, if these trials showed null results on average), it would require 923 missing trials of average size (ie, 118) to reduce the pooled-effect size to insignificance at the 0.05 level with the random-effects test and 4511 missing trials with the fixed-effects test" Do you have at hand the 923 to 4511 negative controlled trials that invalidate the superiority of the effect of homeopathy over placebo? You can count if the Australian report... oh no, you can't, the Australian report is only based on 5 negative trials.

[@purrcheeze5014]

These three months have served me quite well "debating" with you, now I understand very well that you have no real arguments against, but only rely on Wikipedia, blog articles, newspaper notes, a set of dubious "verdicts" (none peer reviewed) and the anecdotes of two "former homeopaths" who are interested in fame, money and selling their books (Grams writes in record time a book a year, almost the same as Ernst, don't you think?).

[@kk440635NORWAY]

Of course. It not possible to change a persons sexuality

[@simstar6557]

Homeopaths (every year): wait, wait, we are this close to figuring out How Homeopathy works. Science: What do you mean, How? We already showed it's just a placebo. There is no How.

[@jackreacher8535]

Whats wrong with you idiot!!

[@simstar6557]

"Homeopathy researchers routinely neglect to register the details of their clinical trials before they publish their results, and unregistered trials usually provide rosier results than registered ones, the study found."

[@ChantryKnight]

At this point, literally anyone still trying to sell this bunk is 100% scumbag. There is no way that they don't KNOW they're pushing useless snake oil for no reason other than personal gain.

[@purrcheeze5014]

Well, in the video they offer evidence, here I only see you offering insults and anger.

[@ChantryKnight]

@@purrcheeze5014 "Evidence"? lol no no .. REAL evidence is credible verifiable repeatable data ...Please, show me some of THAT in support of this nonsense. IF you can find it, you'd be the first.... ever.

[@purrcheeze5014]

@@ChantryKnight Why do all the anti-homeopathy trolls have to ask biased questions with "show me your nonsense works"? 2021: "Regarding the efficacy of homeopathy, several well-designed RCTs, observational studies, case studies, and case reports, have been published, demonstrating its clinical efficacy. Regarding its mode of action, the discovery of the working principle of homeopathy would be a major advance towards a thorough scientific recognition of homeopathy. Basic research has already discovered some milestones, e.g., significant and reproducible effects of homeopathic preparations in plants."

[@ChantryKnight]

@@purrcheeze5014 lol Again.. google the words "credible verifiable repeatable evidence'....then start over and be better.

[@purrcheeze5014]

@@ChantryKnight There is repeatable evidence, even in the video they show you several scientific papers.

[@purrcheeze5014]

It would be great if Sim Star would have read the study. Some examples: "By contrast, a meta- analysis of registered RCTs did not show a statistically significant difference between homeopathy and placebo (SMD: −0.14, 95% CI −0.35 to 0.07)." Of course, it's Mathie's metaanalysis published in 2017 on non-individualized homeopathy: "Second, our example is based on a single meta- analysis on non- individualised homeopathic treatments that might not be applicable to individualised homeopathy". Why didn't they analyze the three reliable studies from the 2014 meta-analysis of individualized homeopathy? They confirm that their meta-analysis did not give a statistically significant value between registered and unregisterd studies: "Meta- regression revealed that the difference in effect sizes between registered and unregistered studies did not reach statistical significance (difference in SMDs: 0.39, 95% CI −0.09 to 0.87)". Wow, a study finding that there is some publication bias in homeopathy trials. Is that really new? The lead author did not discover anything new, even in an interview he said: "Compared to earlier years, "the registration of trials assessing homeopathy has definitely improved," Gartlehner said". Clinical trials in conventional medicine do not report their results within 12 months; whereas 62% of all registered homeopathy trials reach publication! So in homeopathy trials primary outcome bias only occurs 25% of the time, and over time that bias has gone down. The reporting bias in conventional medicine is 43%! Overall, the findings suggest a concerning lack of scientific and ethical standards in the field of conventional medicine and very high high risk for reporting bias. Conventional medicine trials is probably the clearest modern day example of junk medicine still around, and as this new research suggests, so too is the science meant to support it. Sorry for SimStar.

[@simstar6557]

Actual text....... 25% is outright manipulation, not bias. Purry can't read science. almost 38% of registered homeopathy trials have remained unpublished, and 53% of published randomised controlled trials (RCTs) have not been registered. Retrospective registration was more common than prospective registration. Furthermore, 25% of primary outcomes were altered or changed compared with the registry. Although we could detect a statistically significant trend toward an increase of registrations of homeopathy trials (p=0.001), almost 30% of RCTs published during the past 5 years had not been registered. Conclusions Registration of published trials was infrequent, many registered trials were not published and primary outcomes were often altered or changed. This likely affects the validity of the body of evidence of homeopathic literature and may overestimate the true treatment effect of homeopathic remedies.

[@simstar6557]

I mean, anything over zero effect is obviously overestimation in case of homeopathy 😂.

[@purrcheeze5014]

@@simstar6557 Yaw, why the fake russian report is based on Yandex mail? Let's see the real results published by Rusian Academy of Sciences: 2020: "Aqueous solutions may change their composition under a mechanical impact" 2021: "The results of the studies of aqueous solutions performed recently at the Prokhorov Institute General Physics of the Russian Academy of Sciences are briefly reviewed."

[@mariadedinszky5707]

Which scientists? What is a scientist? An illusionist?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Thomas.Jonker]

Nice that seven scientists tell me THAT it works, but if you want to convince me, then tell me how it works. How does a potion with on average 1 out of 10^60 molecules of cure in water work, if 18.016 gram water has only about 6.02214 * 10^23 molecules. And don't tell me the water 'remembers' the the working molecule, because I don't think drinking water that was earlier used to flush feces down the toilet would be healthy to drink if it 'remembered' that even after being treated in a wastewater treatment plant. Also, if taking less of a substance increases it's efficiency, then shouldn't we all take less vitamins and minerals? Or did I miss something there?

[@null543]

ok. How?! fuck sake!

[@juwelmd4811]

Well ❤

[@joalexsg9741]

I've seen the blessing it has been in my life in my own body but thank you so much for this most valuable video! Shared, giving the due thumbs-up for sure!!

[@autoazure]

Quackary Central!

[@donttrackme9535]

Avogadro

[@Nathuram_godse_real]

its good to not to do homeopathy in INDIA. people here so much obsessed with mbbs doctors.

[@user-pg3iq5ro5k]

Wait, what? India has the world's largest collection of Homeopathy quacks. Are you saying that inspite that, hardly anyone believes them? 😂

[@simstar6557]

I now totally see why Purr Cheeze says people call her Dana Ullman. She is practically him 😂.

[@purrcheeze5014]

Another of your delusions? Did you take your pill today? :D

[@simstar6557]

@@purrcheeze5014 I just read about Dana's trolling on Wikipedia. You are exactly like him.

[@simstar6557]

@@purrcheeze5014 Which pill, Purry? 😁

[@simstar6557]

Let's go with Mayara Ullman. 😐

[@simstar6557]

You just played up Linde as well, Padawan. Ullman makes similar - even, perhaps, extreme claims for the importance of the Linde 1994 metaanalysis (Linde K, et al, Critical review and meta-analysis of serial agitated dilutions in experimental toxicology, Human and experimental toxicology, 1994). He claims that it is a "major" meta-analysis, published in a major journal on numerous occasions. However, the journal is the same one as the Cazin study; the article is only cited by two (TWO) other studies in all of Pubmed [23]. Places you would expect to find a major metaanalysis do not include it, and it is not generally available, with even companies making volumes of Human and Experimental Toxicology available not offering issues back that far.

[@moralizade]

I used homopathy medicine for my fast and uneven Heartbeat and it really cured.

[@nishatnowrin6761]

Amazing ❤❤❤

[@iedfjoedjoph5514]

😊..???

[@simstar6557]

Yeah no, that's just Bern homeopathy Institute propaganda. Scientists say the opposite.

[@iedfjoedjoph5514]

@@simstar6557 propaganda?????

[@simstar6557]

@@iedfjoedjoph5514 yes, homeopaths are always trying to pretend that new studies prove it, to fool people it's also a science. But the fact is, there has never been even one study that proved anything about it. This is just ongoing propaganda to mislead people. We talked before. I know you are a homeopath, a genuinely naive person who believes the propaganda.

[@purrcheeze5014]

@@iedfjoedjoph5514 Sim Star is a troll.

[@iedfjoedjoph5514]

@@simstar6557 naive person ??? mislead people ?? No ...we are not...

[@jijilpm1998]

Just simply explain how like cure like work...

[@bethgoodwin6014]

It is based on a natural law that 2 similar diseases cannot exist in the same living thing at the same time.

[@jythirlathajyo]

Like cure like works when a potentised medicinal substance having similar affection is administered to similar suffering after thoroughly matching the similarity of both the medicinal effect and suffering.

[@purrcheeze5014]

In biochemical terms, the principle of similarity is related to Chatelier's law.

[@symbiont8081]

@@purrcheeze5014 no :)

[@jijilpm1998]

@@bethgoodwin6014 blunder....what's the homeopathic medicine for food poison....as per principle the food causing food itself is the medicine

[@sunshine_fairy]

Homeopathy worked for me, my dogs and my parrot 😊

[@user-pg3iq5ro5k]

Astrology will too 😂.

[@40Moklesur86]

Well,l want to learn more and more about Homeopathy by HRI from Bangladesh.

[@alexmurdoch1391]

Boy, that's a very small subset of scientists. The vast majority would disagree.

[@purrcheeze5014]

Even if it does, it contradicts the nonsense of the twitter trolls who say that "no scientist supports homeopathy". In another instance, the scientists interviewed in the video are only a few, but there are hundreds who support what is mentioned in the video. There are more and more of them. You need to show that "the vast majority reject it", obviously with published evidence, and that this is not ad populum.

[@Darradog]

The majority of bought out by big Pharma controlled by the unmentionables.

[@alexmurdoch1391]

@@Darradog Rock solid argument there.

[@anonymous.1.0.]

@@Darradog the truth has been spoken!

[@crazyworldofwow.]

Right now i got relief from headache after taking homeopathic potentised drug though I'm searching for homeopathy works or not.. 😂 At last thanks homoeopathy 💚

[@padmashreehomeoclinic2885]

It really works...

[@simstar6557]

I am going to go out on a limb and say Purr Cheeze is Dana Ullman 😂. Hates Ernst with a passion. Check. Hates Wikipedia with a passion. Check. Clueless about science. Check. Shows up defending homeopathy quackery everywhere. Check. What else did I miss?

[@sigmundz9222]

Hey you have not yet joined your sweeper job ? or you are busy in giving BLO*** Job to lancet ??

[@purrcheeze5014]

I thought my name was Mayara. It seems that your mind has broken down. Sim Star = ERROR 404 :C

[@purrcheeze5014]

//Program Sim Star the bot. #include void main() { cout

[@simstar6557]

@@purrcheeze5014 when you are trying to look like not D ullman, working off a 30 year old memory of C++ is not the best way to go. 😂

[@simstar6557]

@@purrcheeze5014 your understanding of elementary code constructs is no better than your understanding of science 😆. while(10000) is as funny as you pawning your junk articles, articles with magic frequencies and cold fusion. 😆😆😆 SCIRP grade code 🙉.

[@azizulalamkhan]

Thank you

[@0_Nobody]

Literally the flat earthers of the medical field🙏

[@shadowfiend3911]

Its not placebo it is advance science

[@user-pg3iq5ro5k]

It's called pseudoscience. Advance.... LOL 😂.

[@joergriener9629]

Not only a placebo, but also a way to make with nothing a lot of money.

[@annamariapari5964]

obviously, you dont know nothing about homeopathy. Did you ever tried it, after finding yourself ill? Try it then talk.

[@DavidBoycePiano]

@@annamariapari5964 There is no creidble published evidence that any homeopathic remedy can alter positively the course of any health condition to an extent greater than placebo. No laboratory in the world can distinguish between bottles of Rhus tox 30C pills and bottles of Nat mur 30C pills, with the labels off.

[@RoadrunnerCoyote]

Must be homeopathic researchers 😂😂

[@user-pg3iq5ro5k]

The usual suspects 😂.