Flat Earther "Destroys" Science Text Book!

[@mechazoic]

The only time I’ve seen a Flat Earther “destroy” a science textbook is when Dan showed the video of the guy who tore one up because he considered it “propaganda”.

[@CarinaPrimaBallerina]

And he had a hard time doing even that 😂

[@curbotize]

That's the first thing that came to mind for me as well. 👍

[@freddan6fly]

I think it is Nathan Roberts. John Milton said: "He who destroys a good book, kills reason itself."

[@paulcooper1223]

@@freddan6fly Nathan Thompson, the guy who shouts at kids when they're in school and gets a restraining order.

[@freddan6fly]

@@paulcooper1223 They look alike but.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4K6hH-FiZWSp8k

[@Sgt_SealCluber]

Textbook: Humanity discovered fire. These Two: What's with this unnamed "Humanity"? Fire isn't real.

[@buffaloking2788]

@@priapulida why on earth did you make it political? Seriously?

[@petermirtitsch1235]

Did EVERY human discover fire? WERE YOU THERE? Can I see someone discovering fire?

[@briannewton3535]

@@buffaloking2788 fire being a social construct, is political, really? Try and develop a sense of humour. Seriously!

[@buffaloking2788]

@@briannewton3535 I’m not talking about the fire, I mean when they said “the patriarchy and oppression” I just sighed because it’s stupid to make things political.

[@briannewton3535]

@@petermirtitsch1235 God created fire and simply waited for his devoted creations to discover it. I guess the Greek god Hephaestus might dispute this though, being the ACTUAL god of fire.

[@SirWeibrot]

They really just went out and read a middle school level geology book, asked kindergarten level questions about the science in it and then were satisfied with their work....

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

good enough to make them a couple of tenners from the idiots knowing even less and watching their shite driving up KZbin participation statistics and monetization.

[@simmingszycho1980]

And they still didn’t understand what they were reading

[@FawadAli_SST]

Typical

[@cynicalmoose19]

Flat Earthers in a nutshell

[@nothere7198]

Well, they can't be expected to be punching above their weight can they.

[@toddbarton1049]

"Do they understand how peer-reviewed science works?" No, Dan, no they do not.

[@Matuse]

In fairness, they don't really understand how anything else works either.

[@MuttFitness]

Did you just inverse Phineas and Ferb?

[@KL-lt8rc]

Yeah that seems like the least of their problems. They don't even understand how up and down work.

[@toddbarton1049]

@@KL-lt8rc I remember being confused about how Australia could be "upside down"... when I was in kindergarten

[@boris3320]

Do they *understand*?

[@jasonscott2946]

This “displaced decimal” is likely from our international peers who use a comma in place of periods. So not inconsistent.

[@SethanorEU]

THANK YOU ... those people aren't just immensely stupid but they also always shine with their insane ignorance. People really should have to be tested before being allowed on the internet XD

[@jasonscott2946]

@@SethanorEU I do have to say it’s something I didn’t know until I was in my late 20s. I can see how that’s an easily made mistake, but once you have that knowledge, an honest actor will walk it back.

[@SethanorEU]

@@jasonscott2946 not knowing something is absolutely no shame BUT if you are trying to argue against something or debunk something then you better get your facts straight first. so when they came across this while making their video, they should have wondered and instead of being ignorant they should have looked why it was the way it was... but I guess that would mean that they actually would have to do some science for once :P

[@jasonscott2946]

@@SethanorEU something flerfs are not well-known for.

[@RealityCheckThat]

@@jasonscott2946 I have no problem with ignorance, I'm ignorant about many things myself. We all start at 100% ignorance on the day we are born. What I do have a problem with are those who are willfully ignorant and then post a video trying to educate others about the very thing they are ignorant about!

[@Wordavee1]

So basically, the whole 'destroying' of the science book comprises of reading it and saying "I don’t understand it, therefore it must be wrong!"

[@mesonparticle]

Amazing isn’t it 🤦‍♂️

[@unitedfools3493]

Their equal to someone with a physics degree obviously.

[@kennymartin5976]

The Anti-Science movement in a nutshell.

[@briannewton3535]

@@unitedfools3493 Chuckle, but yeah. Reading a dumbed down, public information science book, truly makes them the totally smart.

[@tma2001]

aye, if only someone had thought of measuring the propagation speed of waves through different materials in a science lab on the surface of the Earth - oh wait! Also I thought every flerf was au-fait with the Cavendish Experiment to measure G and hence mass of earth.

[@UziMan-Science-Math]

Unlike normal people, these people lose more knowledge while reading a book, rather than gaining it.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

That's like in "Married with children" when their daughter had to learn something new (like the name Mohorevicic) she would immediately lose something else out of her brain...

[@UziMan-Science-Math]

@@Ugly_German_Truths Yes, exactly!

[@Nerazmus]

Can't lose something that doesn't exist.

[@UziMan-Science-Math]

@@Nerazmus XD

[@jordirobinson9899]

My favourite comment of the day!

[@thekwoka4707]

Seems 100% of their criticism is just that it's a simplified science book that generalizes "scientists" for educational purposes as opposed to being a scientific journal documenting the entire process and those who did it.

[@RuneDrageon]

Its almost as if they started with a predisposition and then pick at everything they can, but that can't be true, right? /s

[@casperhansen826]

And even though it is a simplified science book they have a hard time reading and understanding it.

[@Jagernaughty]

It does read like a school text book aimed at 13 year olds.

[@haleyw5677]

when you can't make actual points, just try to discredit whoever you are arguing against using semantics

[@petermirtitsch1235]

@RAYfighter exactly. Unless you're going for an argument from authority, names are almost irrelevant

[@Matuse]

"I'm too dumb to understand this, therefore it isn't true" constitutes about 90% of the flerf argument.

[@TomJakobW]

@@BLAlleyyes, the remaining 20% is “hot air” and another 5% “mathematical ineptitude”!

[@AlcerusOfficial]

For those confused by the "solids acting like liquids" thing, imagine a grain silo. A huge silo full to the top with grain. Now poke a big hole in the bottom of that silo. What happens to the grain? It pours out of the hole like a liquid. Imagine you have a bucket full of marbles. Now pour those marbles out. They don't come out in a giant block and stick together, no, they act more like a liquid and spill out everywhere. That is how solids can act as liquids. You have lots and lots of particles of dirt and rock moving around each other like marbles or grain.

[@cottoneyejoe8285]

Exactly.

[@MuttFitness]

Nice description, especially starting with something people are familiar witb

[@martinmckee5333]

Particulate motion is one example, yes. When rock gets hot, however, it will deform plastically and flow (albeit slowly on a human timescale). So there are, indeed, many ways that solids can act as liquids. Then of course, things can go the opposite direction with non-newtonian fluids like silly putty. They flow under low stress, and break (like a solid) under high stress. Though, I don't know of an example of this in Earth science.

[@alistairgrey5089]

@@martinmckee5333 doesn't lava sometimes act like a non Newtonian fluid? If it gets impacted it can crack under the right circumstances. But then again, that could be because it is both liquid and solid at the same time.

[@martinmckee5333]

@@alistairgrey5089 Yes. Lava does appear to be non-newtonian. You learn something new every day! I wonder if that holds true for magma and rock deep in the mantle. That is the area that undergoes the deformation I mentioned and last I heard. It appeared to be amorphous, but it could easily be non-newtonian also.

[@robyngrieve9665]

As someone who originally worked in geoscience in Australia, I am in pain.

[@Soundbrigade]

Australia is fake! Or if the Earth is a globe, all Aussies has fallen off (down) ...

[@AlexPittendreigh]

@@Soundbrigade Of cause Australia is fake and we Australians are all just paid NASA shills. Still waiting for my cheque NASA.

[@petermirtitsch1235]

@@Soundbrigade don't be silly. What do you think those ankle straps you see surfers wear are for, and why do there seem to be so many Aussie surfers? Eh? Eh? (Taps head flerfily)

[@briannewton3535]

How on earth did you manage to work in geoscience without falling off the bottom of the earth?

[@briannewton3535]

@@petermirtitsch1235 Ahh, good point. I added my comment before reading. Yup, makes sense to me. Boy do I feel stoopid now!

[@tomrawlins8214]

this video made me genuinely angry, the way they laugh as if they know better than thousands of people that have spent their lives making discoveries is so annoying

[@SnakeMan448]

The "mmmm, I want some pie!" joke is especially annoying. It's a bad delivery of what the class idiot would say in a children's show.

[@ianreilly5394]

Yea that's usually my main pet peeve about all flerfs. The distain for education and established facts is infuriating

[@Zahaqiel]

...The thing which I found most painful was the continued insistence that science apparently works by surveys doing opinion polling. Aasimov said it best: _"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge'."_

[@bobblum5973]

Dr. Isaac Asimov was a gift to us that I will always appreciate; his wit, charm, and knowledge.

[@maxwellshammer5283]

Brilliant observation!

[@astrosci8864]

I have to give these two some credit for actually reading an introductory science book. Keep going, please!

[@rysacroft]

LOL! These two cnuts couldn't navigate their way out of a paper bag :

[@rigierish3807]

When they criticized the “scientists” part, what they would expect : all the scientists in the world who work in seismology being listed in this book? That would fill the entire book if they would’ve done that. Besides, what’s the point? We really have little geniuses here…

[@brayhill]

I think that not only should every scientist be listed, but we need an entire paragraph on the genealogical "begats" of each. I mean, that works in the bible.

[@christiankalk4668]

A college-level textbook would be much more likely to name names, or at least add notes like, "An Oxford University team in the 1960s determined that...". But this appears to be a middle school/high school introductory book, so of course that level of detail would be unnecessarily pedantic, particularly for material that is considered "common knowledge" among most educated people.

[@jawstrock2215]

they couldn't make the difference between a vulgarization teaching book for high school-er, with a doctorate dissertation paper anyway. And they also expect, every name of everyone who ever contributed to science, including all those that verified, and retested to confirm said test, to be listed, every freaking time, as if that was in anyway feasible.

[@Sheesha87]

His whole video was: "I don't understand, and a decimal point proves a lie." Astounding!

[@eddys.3524]

A Decimal point or Decimal comma according to the convention used...

[@johncatty6560]

Fun fact: for me it is written in a correct way. I am German.

[@MartinBgelund]

Yup, same here in Denmark (as well as much of continental Europe): We use decimal comma.

[@BigTwitchy]

SPACE COMMA… sorry , couldn’t help it.

[@johncatty6560]

@@BigTwitchy Thanks Bob! Could not resist.

[@mattheweagles5123]

"We haven't directly looked at the earth's core, therefore it shouldn't be believed." Also "The earth is definitely flat although I've not seen it and have nothing to back that up." Flerf science at work.

[@criss-crossapplesauce274]

something scientists presume according to empirical science supplying proof of it-> not seen it= bullsh!t something claimed by humans right after losing their tails and starting to walk on 2 legs (earth is flat) = true... so true... very very undisputed truth.

[@alvin2021]

Yep, sounds about right, they're all huge hypocrits. Demand the most strictest of proof for a globe, video and photos aren't proof enough, but will believe flat earth 100% based on theories.🤦‍♂️

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

Yep, but an ancient book claims an unseen, unproven god & they believe it without question. These people are walking facepalms.

[@SINTD_666]

Check mate religious flat earthers.

[@MultiRationalThinker]

This was a book aimed at schoolkids and it's clearly going over Kyle's head. Worse still, in one of his videos he says this was the textbook he had when he was at school, so he hasn't just read it, he's been taught using it. He's had how many years since then to try to understand it and still can't grasp what's in it. Kind of tells you the level of intellect we're dealing with in Kyle.

[@catofthecastle1681]

And did he steal government property? And also that book has probably been retired for a newer version!

[@kennymartin5976]

@@catofthecastle1681 he was probably a kid and lost it in his closet or something. It was probably declared lost long ago, then he found it again.

[@andysmith1996]

It's more the level of dishonesty than the level of intellect. They guy calls himself a professor because he "professes" things and he strawmans the globe like all flerfs do. He's just another grifter, seeking to profit off other people's gullibility and stupidity.

[@witkacysracy]

He probably never even read it before.

[@annk.8750]

"They don't name the scientists". Middle school textbooks are not usually notable for being heavy in footnotes and references to technical papers...

[@robjackson4050]

are any textbooks good at citing there sources that is my problem with textbooks i don't see them cite there sources don't get me wrong they are usually 100% accurate but i would have liked to have the sources for the stuff i learned in school

[@annk.8750]

@@robjackson4050 textbooks at an advanced level certainly do. I think it's a fair assumption that students below their teens are unlikely to look up references, but college-level students often do.

[@khiemgom]

@@robjackson4050 Then u should read some real sci paper?

[@WombatMan64]

Unsurprisingly, it's just a string of arguments from incredulity. I can't speak for everybody, but when I'm encountered with something that's hard for me to fully understand (like when Physicists start going into what exactly happens with time and space beyond the event horizon of a black hole), I interpret my lack of understanding as just that, a lack of understanding. It's evidence that I, personally, do not have the scientific background and years upon years of study experience to properly grasp what's going on. I'm also completely okay with this. This guy takes the disconnected leap from not understanding, to therefore not true.

[@keirfarnum6811]

So many people today think that because they have access to all kinds of information through the internet, they “should” be able understand anything that’s presented to them. They just can’t conceive of there still being more complex ideas they aren’t able to grasp. With the internet, everyone’s an expert these days.

[@Dmacxxx77]

Exactly! Just because YOU don't understand something doesn't mean it's not true. It's amazing how badly someone failed the people in this video lol. I don't know if their parents weren't around or if they dropped out of school or got addicted to drugs, but something happened for them to get to the point that they made this video lmao.

[@TravisW888]

Spot on. It’s like opening a book for a three year old about science and arguing why it doesn’t have all the specific details to prove it’s case. I think my eyes would have popped out of my head from rolling off I had to hear about that scientist survey one more time.

[@j.ritter619]

This always happens. When these flat earthers can’t understand how something works, they automatically assume that it can’t be real.

[@Tnargav]

I suppose wind doesn't exist either as she can't see it.

[@Run187]

Hey but at we found that 7456 mile depth hole..

[@jnewcomb]

How are flerfs still able to make me lose brain cells while literally reading from an educational book?

[@chrthdestr]

The whole thing is a hoax anyway. I might come out as one of them within my family, just to see how stupid I can act if I tried haha

[@bulletvivace]

@@chrthdestr That could actually make an excellent TV show

[@Acheron666]

@@chrthdestr You don’t have what it takes to be a flerf……That level of stupidity takes years to achieve. It’s not something you can just decide to do 🤣.

[@bigjake8943]

Like seriously I’ve passed the point of amusement with these people and now I’m just getting aggravated. They are so full of themselves not even knowing just how stupid they are

[@chrthdestr]

@@Acheron666 You're right. That was pretty arrogant of me. One does not just 'become' a flerf haha

[@baconsarny-geddon8298]

To be fair, you can't really expect a flat earther to be able to spot the difference between a cat, and an onion.

[@jnewcomb]

They're both flat.

[@t-bonejones3576]

Neither even exist at all !

[@andrewlee4527]

C... G...Iiiiiiiii....

[@TruthNerds]

Well, they can't tell their ass from their elbow either…

[@quintrankid8045]

Suppose the onion is in a box and you can't tell from the outside if it's alive or not...

[@TheDevildog1991]

“Do they not understand how peer-reviewed science works?” They literally do not, Dan. Not at all.

[@kenevans233]

Hey Dan. I've heard these kind of voices before. It was when I was in high school. These were the jokingly superior voices that indicated these kids thought they were "too cool for school" and that science was a worthless joke. These were the kids who sat in the back of the class, constantly derided the teacher, and drew lewd cartoons over the science illustrations in the textbook. They sounded just like these two in the textbook video.

[@Odontecete]

"I'd like to see that survey where they all are unanimous"....yea, no idea how science actually works. Here's a clue for you; it's not done by a survey.

[@tookitogo]

The whole “surveys” aspect was so maddening!!

[@jwb932]

This point nearly deserves to be pinned.

[@keirfarnum6811]

Unfortunately, because it’s used in the climate change debate (since technically there’s no way to predict the future) to demonstrate that a consensus exists, people like this flat earth adherent think it’s a valid argument for science in general.

[@martinconnelly1473]

At 14:36 Kyle says "I have no idea". Sort of sums himself up in one short phrase.

[@sandisheldon2256]

I was thinking exactly the same thing.

[@irrelevant_noob]

*14:33

[@nickrad6966]

“I don’t understand therefore it can’t be true.”

[@BlazeNStar]

Don't ask a flat earther to find a volcanologist, they probably think that's a star trek thing about studying Vulcans.

[@theechoholic]

,,Do they know how peer reviewed science works?" Made me chuckle... As they don't even know how to read numerical notation beyond 12.

[@Dloin]

I want them to face the fact that "DIRECT OBSERVATION" has shown us how shitty our eyes are. And what consequenzes that has for our "DIRECT OBSERVATION"

[@BosieYouTube]

Some countries use a "," to separate the decimal, whilst others use a ".".

[@jnewcomb]

Not in America. We are clueless.

[@dermathze700]

To be fair, the google result she was looking at had a dot for the miles decimal and a comma for the kilometers decimal in the same sentence.

[@quintrankid8045]

I made a similar comment before I read yours, sorry.

[@quintrankid8045]

@@dermathze700 I think it's a bit worse than that. I'm not going back to look it up again, but I think it says 12,2 kilometers and then says 14,500 meters. Something like that.

[@clivedavis6859]

and a space to separate the thousands.

[@scarfhs1]

They seem to expect every science text book to include the entire history of science with the name of every scientist and a full description of every experiment ever performed.

[@ceejay0137]

It's because the flerfs don't understand that science builds on the work done previously, which has been peer-reviewed and published and is now generally accepted. If every scientist had to start from the absolute basics and build up their entire field for themselves, we would never have made any significant progress!

[@kai_plays_khomus]

They don't understand what a comma stands for and that "12,262 kilometers" means "12 kilometers and 262 meters", but they want to debunk a textbook - that's what I would call a delusion of grandeur.

[@NopeP]

Liking the video before you've seen it because you know it's going to be gold

[@glenecollins]

Ideally when the textbooks say “scientists” have established something they are saying there have been a number of peer reviewed papers and experiments which show whatever it is and none which have reproduced and explored the outcomes and brought the findings into doubt.

[@Roozyj]

Also, this seems to be a high school textbook or something similar, so no, of course you're not going to get bombarded with names, because that would just distract from the information you're trying to learn.

[@RuneDrageon]

@@Roozyj Exactly, the amount of names that would be relevant to these discoveries would fill the book by themselves.

[@midnight8341]

@@RuneDrageon so, like in the bible? Which is basically a phone book of ancient times...

[@goldenknight578]

@@midnight8341 Except most of them are wrong numbers.

[@midnight8341]

@@goldenknight578 I never said it was accurate 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@marcorothley6039]

Did they ever got an ultrasonography scan made and were wondering how this is working without digging a hole right into your body? Criticising a school book for leaving out some details, but not understanding the fundamentals every school kid would understand... Also: Love your voice-over-lady's voice a lot!

[@briannewton3535]

Let's hope they don't reproduce to experience and witness an ultrasound image.

[@TheMindRobber42]

No, it was another guy that doubted ultrasounds 😄

[@PDVism]

I for one hope to hear the voice-over-lady more frequent in the future, keeping SciManDan in check. :)

[@JordyHistorian]

@@briannewton3535 I hope they do Maybe their kids will be more mentally functional then their parents and hopefully they would be able to talk some sense to them

[@clem-lv2rw]

@@JordyHistorian Unfortunately, stupidity, while not technically hereditary, might as well be.

[@4zap7]

You can hear the desperation to be right in their voice. It’s almost cult like

[@freddan6fly]

"almost" ?

[@4zap7]

@@freddan6fly they lack the organization to ever be recognized as a cult 😂

[@jasoncowley4718]

@@4zap7 That's what happens when you eat lead paint every day and worship a Yoga instructor, Eric Dubious I'm looking at you.

[@Tasarran]

They actually think science is advanced by a series of polls that every scientist on Earth has to unanimously agree on...?

[@nothere7198]

Little Know Flerf Biology Fact : When you grow onions on the Flat Earth they mature into cats. So he is in fact doing Cat Flerf Biology first ! Part One : Origin of Cats - Onions I can't wait for harvest ! Onion kittens are so cute and fluffy they make me cry !

[@kimudo]

You know... I wrote out a joke premise some twenty-five years ago that stated that the whole of human intelligence... of scientific advancement and technological progress... was in search of recreating the glory and majesty of the first, prime, pizza. It posited that the first such thing came about from the aether, fully formed and sizzling with carmelized cheeses, concealing an ocean of delectable sauce, simmering in the perfect pairing of savory and sweet... a crust so ideal as to indellibly mark the very fabric of creation with the desire to return, once more, to that brief moment of Socratic perfection. Yes... I wrote out a skit with the express purpose of showing that if you bend your thoughts hard enough, you can find connections that aren't there... but can use them to collectively support nonsense. Also... I rather liked pizza. And I love the idea of Onion Kittens. I'll have to rework the theory now, but these blessed creatures will now figure prominently within the cosmos of the Seekers of the Prime Pizzaro. Thank you for bringing this shortcoming to our notice.

[@equious8413]

*reads a child's textbook* "WHY'S THIS OMIT SO MUCH INFORMATION!?" 🤦‍♂️

[@DaveJonesActor]

So, based on this, these guys would call for all obstetricians to be burned at stakes…

[@AltonV]

There is someone who claimed that ultrasounds emit harmful radiation kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2m8ZXiCrLGNas0

[@TotalRookie_LV]

No, Dan, I did not enjoy suffering through those "science destroyers", but thank you for your work and patience.

[@stainlesssteelfox1]

I agree. It's difficult for me to sit through these, even with Dan debunking it, as I want to reach through the screen and throttle these people for being so stupid.

[@norcodaev]

Same. I like Dan and I like supporting him, but these types of videos are just painful to get through.

[@timjohnun4297]

@@norcodaev Like Kyle's bimbo voice over - It's ironic how "Dense sphere" seems to describe her even better than it does the earth's core...

[@hadorstapa]

I want to hear more of Dan’s voiceover lady! She sounds sensible and practical!

[@KoRntech]

I laughed when I seen his face light up on the previous KA's video with I'm assuming his wife as a voice over.

[@flowingafterglow629]

"I want to see a p-wave!" Get a seismic detector, because that's how you detect them.

[@123cp8]

….and you can hear them. With your ears. So, direct observation.

[@xliquidflames]

I wish flat earthers would name a scientist when they talk about, well, anything to do with their argument.

[@eh9618]

If they do, they would be shooting themselves in the foot

[@jasonsabbath6996]

And when they do bring on their flerf experts, like in Dubay's "movie", it's guys who drink their own urine, are fake cowboy millionaires, KZbin grifters and the like. I've never seen a single scientist, educator, professor, or expert in anything but made up stuff they pulled out of their backsides after they removed their heads from the oraface first!

[@jeffk7083]

You mean Bob's not a scientist?

[@Kruemelkraft]

How do you measure the average speed of a train in a tunnel when you can't look inside the tunnel? Voiceover Girl: _uhm... impossible. I need to reach the train to measure it_

[@Car_Mo]

Yes, to measure the speed you need to stand over there, between those rails. You need to stand still and don't move, or you cant observe it correctly.

[@diamondsmasher]

“I would like to see a video of this train at every point in the tunnel, and not just rely on *math* or *scientists*.”

[@billob4285]

kyle- "how can I make my videos more convincing" kyle- "bring in the whiney sidekick"

[@zyxw2000]

Regarding cats: Tim Berners-Lee, the inventor of the World Wide Web, was asked if anything about the internet surprised him. He said he never realized there would be so many cats.

[@theelephantintheroom8016]

Hi agent Sci I was at the head office of the organization who’s name rimes with banana the other day and we had a great laugh about these idiot belief they live on the top side of the disk when they really live on the under side of disk. The lizard overlords would never allow us to live on the top side. You are doing a great job! Also the job as head of ice wall security is still open!

[@mesonparticle]

Thanks Dan! 😘 The self-indulgent giggles that they make when they think they’ve discovered some inconsistency (which isn’t) makes me want to slap them. Brainless! 🧠

[@MothIncarnate]

The dunning kruger effect is strong with these two!

[@andrewforbes1433]

Minister: "Should anyone present know of any reason that Dan and Voice-over Lady should not be wed, speak now or forever hold your peace." Bob: "A... 15 degree-per-hour drift." Congregation: "Shut up, Bob."

[@illithidinfidel2464]

Because no sane person could listen to Voice-over Lady for long without beating their own head to a pulp against a wall.

[@stevenschnepp576]

@@illithidinfidel2464 The American one? She sounds like pretty much any other twentysomething - the only difference being this one is unjustifiably smug in her "knowing" something demonstrably wrong, as opposed to being unjustifiably smug about knowing something she doesn't really understand.

[@LazyCat010]

I don't know how you do it Dan. Every second I listen to them I feel another brain cell dying.

[@russell2952]

Textbooks aren't science journals. They're just summaries of well established science. Nobody would ever quote only a textbook when making a rigorous scientific argument.

[@MellonVegan]

"You got me on that one. No idea." The truest sentence he uttered for the entire video

[@daved.8483]

And once again, an unbelievable display of ignorance at its finest, celebrated with an impressive amount of passion. At least they were able to demonstrate that the earth is not flat...since some individuals still believe it to be so.

[@MOSMASTERING]

Thank you for your channel Dan. I can't stress the importance of calling out idiots right now. I know it won't have much impact on them, but for the rest of us that feel like we are going crazy surrounded by this much madness, it helps me not feel so alone. I know your channel is predominantly flat earth bashing, but as you have a platform, have you considered doing a small environmental segment discussing small changes we can all make to help? I'm sure you've aware of just how bad things are around the world and the inevitable climate collapse. I believe anyone with a platform (and I don't have one) should be dedicating a little time to what we can do right, not just everyone that is doing it so wrong!

[@unitedfools3493]

As far as I can see, "the rest of us", assuming you live in the US, UK or AU, are simply voting to end humanity. NASA puts it at 50 to 200 years until it happens. The idea that you think "small changes" are going to do anything is um ... crazy. Most people appear to be suffering the delusion that the private sector is going to stop it despite no evidence of this.

[@revolution3395]

You can stop panicking for a start. Atmospheric CO2 levels were some 15x higher in the Cambrian 540 million years ago, where life thrived and corals were evolving in obviously non-acid oceans. The planet as a result never burned to a crisp and can't possibly now. Both Man's and Nature's CO2 is doing nothing but feeding plants. The IPCC says 3% of the current atmospheric 0.04% CO2 is Man's where Nature's is the 97% which you can't do anything about, and there's no need as I just explained. You're saying 0.0012% of the atmosphere is leading to " _the inevitable climate collapse_ ". Stop believing fraudulent narratives and educate self please. What got us out of the last ice age 12,000 years ago wasn't Neolithic SUV's: www.globalwarming-sowhat.com/_Media/600-my-of-temps-560-my-of_med_hr.jpeg i.pinimg.com/originals/c8/da/26/c8da26068accf8e8e0538f5d14d019ff.jpg P.S. I know a lot of you will end up blindly screaming at me because it bursts your belief bubble that's been greenwashing your brain for years. But this is the inconvenient truth, so suck it up and get mad at those that want to defraud and lie to you instead.

[@jimc.goodfellas]

Yeah I think it's actually pretty debatable that were headed for an "inevitable climate collapse "

[@lonnierh0dgejr41]

@@revolution3395 any peer reviewed papers to back up what you're saying or is it just another government cover up? you've got me interested.

[@glennpearson9348]

@@revolution3395 You'd be absolutely right if the only life forms we cared about were corals and other simple-celled eukaryotes. For better or worse, human beings require a much more fragile environment to thrive. Also, CO2 isn't the only concern. Polyfluorocarbons didn't arrive on the scene as a greenhouse gas until people started making them. You may want to explain to the good folks in California and Oregon about how the earth isn't burning to a crisp. That said, I do agree that we won't burn to a crisp. We'll just slowly roast until the only thing left are corals and simple-celled eukaryotes.

[@ethribin4188]

How to see a P-Wave: Push a solid block horizontally. Or tap against its side. How to see a S-Wave. Take a ruler, hold it over the corner of your desk, push the suspended side down a bit, and let go. Using those methods you cant only see those waves, but also feel and hear them.

[@ragingfirefrog]

Or use a slinky. A simple toy can easily demonstrate these two wave types as well. I'd say it shows the P-waves even better than the example you gave, even if it is true.

[@GeorgeSaint666]

Fleffer reads a book and asks: "What scientists are they talking about?" Myeeeah... you know how a book works right? Have you bothered looking in to the section called: "References"... ?

[@jordanmacdonald8381]

I always find it incredible how incredulity leads to flat earth.

[@graham9454]

Incredulity is conspiracy theorists primary defense mechanism because, it's, like, their opinion man. They are entitled to their opinion that it doesn't make sense, but then wield that opinion like an unfalsifiable belief.

[@rossallan3585]

If it’s too hard, I can’t understand it, and if I can’t understand it, then clearly the science *must* be wrong.

[@MisterItchy]

Imagine, someone with a first-grade education trying to understand 5th grade geology and pretend they know as much as graduate students. Classic flat-earth D-K going on here.

[@keithkearns93]

I can feel the wind, see its effects but I am damned if I see the wind !

[@nightmaretheater_TheCount]

6:59 12.262 km is about 7.6 miles... Almost exactly what the article in the Google search indicated. Many places substitute a "," for a "." which sometimes can lead to confusion. I'm just astonished that the hard-hitting, mature sounding female in that video didn't pick up on that...

[@stephenphillips7699]

The trouble with these people trying to debunk science, If you sat them down and explained how things work they still wouldn't understand. Even people who believe the world is round, they wouldn't fully understand the science.

[@pierreblignaut5859]

It's a two parter. Not understanding the science is not so bad if you admit you don't understand it. It's when you pretend to understand it and then use strawmen or personal incredulity to 'debunk it' that it becomes a problem

[@ohasis8331]

My 4 year old niece asked me once the old "but why" question so I answered accurately. She then asked "but why that" so again I responded. Then I related a whole heap of answers, tied them all together then announced "that's why mate". She looked at me stunned for a moment then said "oh" and walked off. That's what these clowns sound like except my niece was happy that an adult had some answers to ally her fears.

[@stephenphillips7699]

@@TheWatchernator it is, God told me.

[@Baerisings]

I'm pretty sure by that logic, they think people scaled mountains with a tape measure to measure it's height or something. Bless em

[@kellydalstok8900]

But surely pilots use a length of knotted rope to measure how high they fly.

[@Inexorablehorror]

14:32 should be the motto of this Flerfs videos :"I have no idea!" At least once, true words were spoken.

[@dragoncubes1074]

Splendid video. I certainly your Voice Over Lady makes future appearances, so to speak. Brilliant idea to have her on this vid. Cheers from Australia.

[@screamerchaotix5182]

Every single time I wonder "Why would anyone spread these lies?" I always get the same answer. The word "God" is all over their channel.

[@WombatMan64]

I'm willing to bet though that the majority of the followers of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are not believers in a flat earth. While I'm not religious myself, there are clearly religious people out there who have the ability to believe in God while also accepting what science has to teach us.

[@screamerchaotix5182]

@@WombatMan64 Oh I'm not saying all religious folks are flat-Earthers. I'm saying the really passionate flat-Earthers are typically perpetuating these lies to protect their own personal beliefs.

[@WombatMan64]

@@screamerchaotix5182 Definitely agree with that. All cats are mammals, but not all mammals are cats.

[@Endersplitt]

"you can bring a horse to the water but not force it to drink" this fit their video quite well

[@MaeljinRajah]

I tried this is a kid trust me with enough effort you can all you need is a hose the horse won't like it and I doubt the flat earther would either but shoving a hose down the flat-earthers throat would be a lot of fun

[@Forest_Fifer]

You can bring a flerf to knowledge, but you can't make them think.

[@RustyWalker]

I recall my astonishment when I did my Biology degree to discover plants used gravity to direct their growth in a simple yet elegant way. Quite how plants are going to show Earth is flat is beyond me. Re: SciAm article, "*Editor’s Note (3/23/21): This sentence was revised after posting to correct the metric figure for the depth of the Kola Superdeep Borehole." That's the first time a flat Earther achieved something. Raise a glass everybody! 🥂🥂🥂🥂🥂

[@the_ravenous]

so plants are more intelligent then flat earthers? :P

[@sphericalearth1205]

@@the_ravenous A single plant is more intelligent than all the flat earthers combined.

[@jnewcomb]

Cheers mate! 🍻🍻🍻

[@jasoncowley4718]

@@the_ravenous Dog shit is more intelligent than flat earthers.

[@quintrankid8045]

And in fairness it appears that the comma is used both as a decimal point and as the place comma in that document.

[@geoffreyrobson4745]

I come back to this channel time and again, I am fascinated that there are people out there that think in this way. Going back to cats you can use them to prove that the earth is a sphere, if the earth was flat then the cats would have knocked everything off the edge by now! Enjoying the vids keep up the good work. See you on Tuesday............ after you have taken the bin out.

[@deimos84SK]

I'm glad, your voiceover lady is back. Helpful and entertaining as ever. ;)

[@ChimeraX0401]

They cant even understand a textbook which simplified most of the terms and explanations. I wonder how will they "debunk" science if they saw the actual science journal. I pretty much think their head will overload and stop functioning for a day....

[@MaterLacrymarum]

They literally tried to use a typo as evidence it's fake. 😄

[@garyhollingsworth5443]

@JG Ballard Actually it's not a typo. In the metric system a decimal comma is used, not a decimal point, to denote the numbers that are less than unity. Saying that, they are American so I'm taking a wild guess (as they are flat erfers) that they have no clue whatsoever about the metric system.

[@Tsudico]

@@garyhollingsworth5443 Someone made a mistake in the article. The first conversion is miles to kilometers and the second is miles to meters. So either the typo is the comma or the typo is the kilo. Personally, I think the typo is the kilo because Americans are much more likely to understand what a meter length is (being just over a yard) whereas we don't have a good reference for kilometer.

[@ericb3157]

reminds me of those "space deniers" who think ONE FRAME of static on a NASA broadcast makes EVERYTHING EVER DONE BY NASA fake!

[@Wordavee1]

Someone uses a comma instead of a full stop for a decimal point....THE EARTH IS FLAT!!!! PROOF POSITIVE!!!

[@PaulSchober]

And as Dan points out, earlier in the sentence it clearly says 7.5 miles. I wonder if flat earthers even notice such things?

[@robbecaerts824]

"they don't name every scientist", probably because it's a textbook, its there to inform, not to proove it, if you want to see the names of all, go read some papers (warning: professional language in those papers, don't cry or yell "MADE UP TERMS" if you don't understand it 😉)

[@clivedavis6859]

Typically, flerfs don''t read anything to the end, where there is probably an index and references.

[@davidklein1245]

I don't know how you have the patience to deal with this.... stuff. But good on you for keeping it up. There are way too many people in the world today that just don't know what they don't know, and refuse to believe it is even possible they don't know.

[@shabanotti]

I love your "Dumb and Dumber" sequel review, SciManDan. Although, I was not amused as much as I was shocked by their statements and questions! TBH I'm surprised they know how to upload a KZbin video!

[@neon-rust]

From the intermittent scoffing, it feels like they seem to think that science is haphazardly collected by random people, knowing nothing of what they are doing.

[@filipmode125]

They really need to stop trying to debunk provable sciences and focus on coming up with a single model or theory that can explain and predict all of nature’s phenomena.

[@mejsjalv]

Or a completely nutcase extravaganza where the flat earth model also account for a whole lot of assorted pseudoscience featuring freemasons, ancient aliens, hollow earth underground nazis, healing crystals and the antics of Jehova and whatever other bullshit they can put in the mix.

[@stef5853]

"Do they know what peer review is?" No, no the don't. Wait... Was it a rethorical question...?

[@johng9399]

Have you taken the bin out yet!? When the voice over speaks.. OBEY!

[@Guyver187]

Jumped on ebay, Did you study the price of those raycons? Jeeeeeeees! Enjoying your vids 😎

[@tonythedwvyer]

Solids can't flow? Someone should tell the folks who make cold extruded Aluminium stuff. That was painful.

[@jasoncowley4718]

Send Kyle a video of someone forging a sword, it would blow his brain cell.

[@erikblaas5826]

Solids can not flow? I have 3 words for poor Kyle: Ice Ice Baby.

[@Jabbatic]

They should take a close look at panes of glass more than 100-150 years old. I'm a Brit - and my ancient house has lots of them!

[@mark7s980]

I remember people like this. They used to sit in the back of the classroom eating glue.

[@johnrap7203]

With Flerfs, and general science deniers: Density attracts density. No gravity needed. Thanks SciManDan, I always feel more smartnessy after your debunks. 😁👍👍

[@williamphillips2671]

Feel Smarter*. It’s just a shame you aren’t

[@johnrap7203]

@@Noah55555 😄😄😄 Thanks. Goodonyamate! 👍👍

[@curbotize]

I always gain more smarteresness listening to Dan. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@curbotize]

@@Noah55555 is anyone gonna whooosh him and turn this into a reddit post? 🤷🏼‍♂️😂

[@palmereldritch4166]

I love the content brother ! Much Love from N.Y. (state), U.S.A.

[@ally276]

Am I the only one delighted to hear the voice-over lady? A welcome addition.

[@simongiles9749]

This flerf is reminding me of the bottom-feeder creationist A Bit Of Orange, who Viced Rhino and Professor Stick demolished a few years back. Reading a textbook in a sarcastic tone of voice is not an argument.

[@Soundbrigade]

Not an argument??!! For flatheads it's a PERFECT argument.

[@Randleray]

"bottom-feeder" Uhm... what?!

[@quintrankid8045]

But what if you're really really sarcastic and your belief is really really strong? That would prove it, right?

[@EdOeuna]

The perfect come back for this is to read a flat earth scientific book in an incredibly sarcastic voice and have a voice over lady chipping in occasionally.

[@davidh.4944]

@@Randleray With the assumption that you are unfamiliar with the idiom, "bottom feeder" is a reference to creatures that live on the sea floor and feed on the detritus that drifts down from above. Metaphorically it refers to disreputable people, usually of low standing, who latch onto an issue and exploit it for personal gain, like a scavenger or parasite.

[@orangekayak78]

These two: Unless you touched magma how do you know it's hot? You can't trust the unnamed scientists.

[@bobiboulon]

3:04 FEers should learn to apply to themselves their own advices, like: "Do your research"!

[@Megan-cd6sh]

You know how in school there were those kids who never raised their hand to answer a question? Oftentimes it was because they were afraid of looking/sounding stupid. These flat earthers seem blessedly unburdened by such concerns...

[@fepeerreview3150]

7:53 The "12,262 kilometers" figure might have just been a typo. But a lot of countries that use the metric system (like France) also use the "," rather than the "." to indicate decimals. That's something that Kyle probably wouldn't know though, since I don't think he has ever left the safety of his little community and experienced life in other parts of the world.

[@bob_the_bomb4508]

There’s so much knowledge out there that people have to specialise. Hence we have volcanologists, seismologists and geologists. People who know more about this stuff than these two. On the other hand, these two probably know more about delivering pizza or collecting supermarket trolleys…

[@Wordavee1]

I don't believe in radio or sound waves, because I can't see them!!

[@SpankeyMcCheeks]

Tell me you're homeschooled without telling me you're homeschooled. It's like listening to children reading a textbook, believing they know what they're talking about.

[@BlackGuardXIII]

I’d hate for this woman to need an mri, X-ray or ultrasound. She won’t trust them, because according to her logic they’ll have to cut her open to see inside.

[@detlefschrempf5387]

FYI the 12000 km is a most probably a translation error. In German the use of komma and dots are reversed to English. So 12.262 km you would write 12,262 km in German. That is 12262 m or if you prefere 12,262 m. It can be confusing esspecially if you are converting ASCII-data files in these formats on computer with different area settings. Trust me, I know!

[@quintrankid8045]

But it appears that the comma is used both as a decimal point and as the place comma in that document.