Slow Speed Cornering on a Scooter

[@josephmuganzi5220]

The best scooter teacher I have heard in my life so far

[@troodon2]

i do hundreds of these corners everyday but damn, this guy knows how to corner like a boss.

[@williamfitch1408]

'Swan necking' is how we call it in Britain, when you overshoot your turn and end up in the opposite lane. This is a great video, one of only a handful on how to handle a scooter that I've come across.

[@davidboyd374]

I'm 77 now been riding scooters in asia for 20 years . Now back in AUSTRALIA and just bought a Suzuki Address ". . Haven't used a scooter for 18 months. And couldn't believe how bad I was at cornering and round abouts. Great video especially about leaning out. And. Looking to where. YOU WANT TO GO !!. thanks. Great explaination. 👍👍👍

[@jeep1077]

I took a trip to Vietnam and rode safely all around the country due in part to these safety videos. Thanks a ton!

[@tommyasquith]

Thanks, great info Ken. I've recently bought a Yamaha Majesty 400 and was struggling to maintain a consistently controlled speed through roundabouts and tight corners. The technique of using the rear brake to achieve that works for me.

[@dunjacvjeticanin]

You guys are amazing! Thanks so much for your videos. So many of the videos on KZbin about two-wheeled riding are about motorbikes only. It's great to get detailed guidance about riding scooters in particular. Cheers!

[@scootersalesScootersales]

Dunja Cvjeticanin thanks for the positive feedback!

[@yournevergunnaknow5201]

This freaked me out till I remembered aussies drive on the other side of the road.

[@badapple65]

I figured out that I’ve probably driven a minimum of 2.5 million miles in my life, I drove truck while younger. With that in mind I’d be terrified to drive in these countries that drive on the opposite side than we here in the states. I don’t know that I could process easily doing everything opposite of what has become human nature. I know that plenty of people do this that travel abroad. I just feel that I would have trouble.

[@williamsoto4782]

Greg Appelgren ?.l

[@harrisonaard1]

It's the correct side if one is right-handed, and needs to be holding one's sword whilst attacking/defending. That's where we get it from.

[@fka.climate]

Absolutely fantastic work on this video. Best instructions on scooter riding I've seen.

[@yeescoldstorageyee81]

good video. Ken pointed out tips that other postings don't mention. Thanks Ken

[@fineloon72]

You little rippa ken. Just taking charge of my first scooter next week. Invaluable info mate.

[@capcadoi]

"Bike in - body out" works only if you're going very slow. So slow you need to counterbalance the scooter in order to avoid falling on the side. So you lean the bike INTO the curve, and your body in the opposite direction to balance it. But, if you're going faster into the curve, DO NOT DO THAT. Lean your body into the curve, and try to keep the bike more upright. The more you lean the bike, the less grip it has with the asphalt. If you keep your body vertical, you have to lean the bike MORE in order to take the turn. Which of course doesn't make sense safety-wise. Why would you compromise grip in order to stay straight in the saddle. If you're going faster, put your body weight INTO the turn, and try to keep the bike more upright.

[@stephenmarseille5425]

Indeed. Of course, the title IS "slow speed cornering" so that is implicit. But it's a good thing to be explicit about.

[@lethargic_cow]

Capcatrei exactly what I thought. Thank you!

[@kikisekscotermann5332]

Good pointing that out.. I mean i cant imagine doing it as shown in the video taking a curve at 90+km/h :D

[@MichaelMoore-bx6st]

My thoughts were the same.

[@drazenbabich]

This ^.

[@rachelmary8491]

I came off on a bend on my second ride out 2 weeks ago. I rode 54 miles but falling off 5 minutes from home 😢 I didn't slow down before the bend I must of applied breaks on it. Only scratches on paintwork thank god and a hairline fracture in hand. Back out this evening for the first time, hence watching this video l. A bit nervous but been told if dont go on might never do it 😊

[@ahmedramiomar]

so much technical for a small scooter . but helpful . I am always relaxed when driving . because what u need to know that ur hips are the only important part that u need to know how to use it to control

[@rexdavid2111]

Best video instruction i’ve seen on youtube… thank you very much.

[@hayleyseddon7222]

Thank you. I had a slip on a roundabout that's known for oil spills & I fishtailed front and back and this put the wind up me. I keep looking at the road now and I always feel like my bike is going to slip 🤦🏻‍♀️ I needed a reminder on how to be on the bike. Tho there are a few grid covers on my route that I can slip on too. Cheers H from Wales UK

[@mohammed_the_train_spotter]

I lost my trust to my 49,2 cc scooter, because it keeps sliding from the front in unpredictable ways.

[@nuclear9977]

@@mohammed_the_train_spotter while using front brakes ? Maybe you’re leaning too much at slow speed or your front tyres are bald. If none of those options are correct then maybe go to the mechanic and see what’s up.

[@mohammed_the_train_spotter]

@@nuclear9977 nope, tyres are warm and new, I’ll try not leaning the bike more.

[@necronorris]

Im confused. The roads appear to be backwards... /s Great video. I got into a wee spot of trouble recently and signed up for some training but this is also very helpful.

[@t.willow4592]

I've watched this video at least five times. It seems like great information. I have a little trouble because I'm in the USA and can't bet my head around bing on opposite side of the road. Also the rear break thing is tough for my brain. I think it's kind a like riding a bike--just got to do it.

[@Kai.206]

just watched this today and i have the same issue.

[@dudeinthesea]

This is really informative thank you. I've been scootering for a year now but this just explains a lot of bad habits that i was not aware of. ps. on a minor side note. you should try checking the volume level of each scene to prevent change in volume. You may need to normalize the audio as well. hope this will help bring more views! cheers.

[@digitalsneak]

always good to see educational videos now matter how much you ride.

[@im8980]

Very good explanation. Belive me, these techniques are very helpful and makes riding much relaxed.

[@Altroo]

Thank's alot man, your videos are really helping me out

[@mickeythedogdeane]

Very helpful - bought scooter 2 days ago and will use these techniques.

[@jputraaa158]

How today?

[@johnwickenden5643]

Great video very helpful. Many thanks, John from UK

[@M1saelAquino]

Muchísimas gracias por haber grabado este video. Muy bien explicado.

[@mrt32487]

I struggle with cornering down a steep hill. Especially since there is no engine braking on a scooter. Any videos on that?

[@bonnaviesarles5538]

Love your tips,easy to follow.

[@nabieladrian]

Bike in, body out... Never heard that phrase, but I remember it easily now!

[@1mmutable]

Never knew you had to accelerate and use the rear break at the same time !

[@pauliesk.7102]

Excellent tutorial: really well explained.

[@dan_abrusci]

amazing video! also loving the pcx!! thank you very much!!!

[@kathleenhuber3372]

Can you do a training video on u-turns on a maxi scooter? Please

[@carolynwoodall9729]

That's what I'm trying to find. I have a Suzuki Burgman 650 executive and it's a lot harder to do very slow speed Maneuvers than it is on a large motorcycle. And it's not the same as the little toy scooter he used on the video. So I will add my two cents to this request.

[@marklowery8280]

Yep,me too can't find any info on the net....I have a yamaha majesty

[@Rich2841]

GREAT vid. Do you use counter steering with Scooters? I still have problems understanding WHY using the rear brake creates a more stable/balanced bike. (BTW, I trade you Aussies English lessons and how to ride on the correct side of the road for bike lessons ... {from USA} just kidding of course, I'm sure we sound funny to you all. )

[@dawoudjoufcaranguian5319]

Richard Close that's trail braking mate

[@ronlandman6267]

very good expaination ,, I am do so when dry weather and clean roads

[@vesparama]

So after your speed has been adjusted prior to taking the curve, do you the apply rear brake, keep the brake in that position and turn with that rear break still in that position?

[@sabarishan]

Good video, can u show how to turn in hairpin bend?

[@abhimd3455]

Just learning the scooter & your videos are very helpful. But can you tell me a safe slow speed to practice my balance like my rider friends are telling me that I can balance it cause I'm riding it too fast which should be done at the beginning. But I think that I'll learn slow speed riding later but currently balancing should be my top priority. Please tell me what's the right way & right speed for beginners to balance a scooter perfectly.

[@-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi-]

This video is best viewed while listening to the Chariots of Fire theme.

[@philipstainer5093]

Hi Ken, Its old news now as the video you posted is years old. But, the description and example you give while sitting on the bike in the early part of the video while the bike is on the pull stand and you are speak of the hands on the grips. This is incorrect. The rule/teaching across NSW anyway is that the rider must have some fingers on both brake levers at all times when riding. It is deemed so crucial that not resting the fingers on the brake levers at all time initiates a failed test. This is done so if emergency braking is needed that can be done without the 1.5 seconds delay it takes for the brain to register the threat and to initiate the action of squeezing the brake lever. The adding of additional fingers to brake really hard after the initial reflex of braking to avoid collision takes place after the initial use of the 2 or 3 fingers resting on the brake levers during and riding.

[@garyraphael4162]

Excellent video

[@harriskhan2126]

Very good instructor 👍

[@Lawful123]

i was like "is this guy trying to get me killed?" Then i understood that they drive on the left lol

[@mauriciomaldonado5699]

Outstanding. Thank you.

[@lostmysoultoday9005]

Good teacher.

[@MultiNemesis101]

Do you use the REAR brake rather than trailing the front brake. Surely that would provide optimise traction and throw the weight onto the front wheel. If you use the back brake would not the opposite apply, you'd take traction off the steering? I've always used the inverse percentage rule, so if the throttle is 80% the front brake is 20% and so on?

[@benquicks]

very good explanation mate.

[@jasonahbh4880]

No need for the break, you have to slow don before you approach the corner and continue as you said. A rear break can cause be a disaster even if u do it slow. Thanks

[@michaelratkewitz296]

Banana Bonbony the lack of understanding the concept makes a disaster. Brakes here are to be the clutch substitution, because improper throttle application can make your turn jerky and wide as well as its your back wheel pushing you through the corner. The brake helps with throttle application allowing for smoother turn without alterations in throttle setting.

[@KumaradityaSarkar]

A rear "break" is always a disaster. The rear "brake" is safer 😀

[@nicp2344]

How do you decelerate though? Is it as easy as if you pull throttle down to out in gas, to turn throttle away from you to cut down on gas?

[@oe4927]

You apply to back/rear break if you feel you're going too fast

[@penc5use3]

Good work, thanks for the effort. I would have thought couple things differently, though. I would lean with the bike if I'm not doing parking lot manoeuvres -meaning if my speed is REALLY slow-. And, I find it a little bit on the risky side to offer any kind of braking thru the curve for learners. To my knowledge rear brake makes the bike tends to stand and widen the curve, which is the least wanted behaviour for the turn. Anyways, there shouldn't be only one correct way.

[@Durdendiggler]

another good video, keep them coming :)

[@laserforce422]

super useful! Thanks, from the future

[@indyjones1173]

Does this guy own the roads? how come there's no traffic?

[@karmaghale7926]

what about the blind cornerings?

[@dbdbsam]

very useful tips !

[@DarthAnna]

Great video, thanks!

[@daffydill5807]

Outside inside outside.. Remember to counter steer

[@manoy6369]

how about the body position? do i have to lean with the motorcycle or bike in body out?

[@daffydill5807]

@@manoy6369 The body doesn't lean the bike. Body is leaned out scooter leans in. Always take turns and corners at a safe speed. Counter steering leans the scooter

[@Fabio-er9mj]

Hi, I have a 150cc scooter with wheels 14 'and I sense that irregularities in the asphalt of the streets she shakes very laterally, it is normal? How can I fix this? Thanks

[@rogercampbell5584]

have yr wheels check for for balance

[@ahasver07]

i have hard time to imagine this for right-hand riding here in europe :) good tutorial though

[@salvo9718]

Yes a aussies traffic, why do see that on KZbin when I am in Europe?

[@aocleader]

at what speed in cornering do you lean body in in other words at what speed is getting to the point of being high speed cornering? so instead of bike in body out it changes to body in ? so what speeds is considered low speed cornering and what speeds is considered high speed cornering?

[@fratermus5502]

The "body in" label isn't very accurate. Really the body is normally in line with the bike. It's easier to feel the correct posture on a motorcycle because your knees grip the tank and the rest of the body stays in line with that. "Body out" is used at really low speeds like practicing slow figure 8s in a single parking spot. Walking speed basically. I have no idea why the presenter uses body in/out here. It's an excellent way to build bad habits.

[@waynesong7632]

I love his accent

[@cesarmendes9524]

great video, thanks!!!

[@TrueSpeak-TS]

MotoJitsu is also a wonderful channel isn't it

[@rodolfoboimarinho6504]

Would it change with ABS or CBS?

[@jdawkovic6826]

Great Advice

[@TrueSpeak-TS]

2:03 well, you could also sit straight while relaxing too, can't you🙂🙂

[@janeprescott980]

Good to know

[@ansaransari1209]

show me how to balance it I have bab problem in balancing the activa

[@dgphi]

Keep your head up and your eyes level to the ground.

[@snaht1]

lean the bike in but body out what do you mean by that ?

[@antonferreira483]

Agreed. Makes no sense.

[@harze434]

@@antonferreira483 just try it, i've done that that is the only way to turn your bike in slow speed without your legs touching to the ground.

[@Chrester1]

Love the accent

[@petearcher2271]

Thank u for your video

[@murkinranzyz9961]

Smooth

[@t.willow4592]

Just for clarification: You are applying the rear break before going in to the turn, not in the turn, correct? I was told never to break in the turn at my class, but as described here, it seems the break "squatting" would take place within the start of the turn and would that be real dangerous with a CBS breaking system? I read Honda has this CBS breaking system which puts some breaking on the front when the rear is applied. The experts rave about it but curious as to how that might effect controlling the bike using the rear break here. In another video you describe in low speed areas using the throttle at a steady low thrust and controlling bike speed with the rear break. Is that an issue with CBS? Or does it not engage in low speeds?

[@michaelratkewitz296]

T. Willow the bike doesn't have the clutch, I guess rear braking here makes the job of holding the clutch in the slipping zone but not braking itself. Sudden acceleration can be dangerous because that when you can run wide and brake is holding the power back so it can be more gently controlled than via the throttle alone. So you keeping the engine reved up yet letting it "slip" as would the clutch in the slipping zone on the motorcycle

[@raybarber9526]

I agree with you Michael. Try doing a tight 180. As you come out of the turn, you need to apply power but often overcook it and go wide. With gears, you can regulate the power by slipping the clutch. On an automatic, you achieve the same ting with the rear brake. It takes practice but does work. On the bend in the video, you might change down a gear and applying the rear brake on an automatic has the same effect.

[@mcperez529]

@@raybarber9526 thank for the info 😊

[@mcperez529]

@@michaelratkewitz296 thanks for the info😊

[@donnagolder7893]

I'm watching it in 2017 Fr on USA

[@jamesconner3437]

What I see you do, and what I think I have always subconsciously done , is not exactly what you seem to say. You mention lean the scooter, keep your body up. But it looks to me in the video that you are leaning the same angle as the scooter, that is, straight with the scooter but not straight up, and not leaning in more than the scooter ? I’ve tried sitting straight up, but wow that feels like the tires are not gonna hold.

[@IsawUupThere]

Goddamn is that the weather over there right now? What are the chances I can convince the australian immigration agency that they spelled the country wrong on my birth certificate? I think I can pull off an australian accent. you need some help selling scooters? I could sell a scooter! Yo mate this is an excellent scouter we got heawr, you should totally buy it!

[@TrueSpeak-TS]

Nice bri

[@charlieoscar09]

Does anyone know which Scooter the trainer is using here...thanks

[@ismovanutube]

Honda PCX

[@charlieoscar09]

ismovanutube Thankyou

[@spookytook]

i just wanted one POV angle

[@makosasimakis118]

You must lean in order for your bike to lean . You lean first then the bike does .

[@usernamemykel]

EXCELLENT! But you might get a bit confused in America...

[@edmundspencer6253]

Good basic skills on riding a scooter.

[@shouldiupload24]

what's the lowest I can bend a conner on a scooter?

[@karmaghale7926]

maybe upto 45° in my view

[@bajajpulsar883]

Karma Ghale lol btw in MotoGP they lean upto 65-68° max Marc marques the cornering king ask him he'll teach u.

[@harze434]

on scooter maximum leaning angle is 50°

[@DanishFlandersDK]

This guy reminds me of Rob Halford :)

[@paulinemccormack6791]

Strange place for a crossing!

[@vasel208]

This is private property which has been designed to look like a normal road and is used by H.A.R.T to train riders. It's located in St Ives, NSW Australia.

[@nightowl8298]

this was helpful until i watched half way threw the video,, i just have to remind myself that i drive on the right side of the road not the left side... lol

[@HillbillyonaYZ]

Mostly good information, except for the "bike in, body out" BS. You always keep your body positioned to the inside of the bike when cornering a street bike of any sort. Keeping your center of gravity to the inside will enable you to get through the corner with less lean angle and less chance of dragging hard parts. The "bike in, body out" posture is always a sign of a new, inexperienced rider, and all too often the precursor to a crash in tight corners. Amazing bit of totally wrong information from what is supposed to be a "how to ride" video..

[@fratermus5502]

+HillbillyonaYZ It's not BS, but it's also not a beginner-level skill. Very low speed riding (like tight maneuvering in parking lots) requires counterbalancing. I agree that at the speeds they demo here it would be counterproductive.

[@SuperBajafresh]

Left Lane riding.

[@inkubatur]

Simple solution... drive on the correct side of the road LOL

[@SteveOLive88]

Buy a motorcycle

[@sanjaydatta1791]

plz translate in hindi

[@tirnistirnis9009]

Its in Africa?

[@harrisonaard1]

Nice, simple, straightforward tuition. Practice makes perfect.