Scorpion EXO R1 AIR long term review

[@EfferusZangetsu]

Hm, I have my Scorpion R1 for the 3rd season now and I am super satisfied with it. I have a Shoei X-14 in L and R1 also in L (my old RPHA 70 was also L), but I have no fitment issues. I have enough space all around and have to pump the cheek pads 3-4 times.

[@KODEGREY]

Your head size must be well within the limits of the L shell size. Mine is close to the limit, but should still fit fine. I probably could have gone up to an XL, but I was afraid of it becoming too loose over time. Thanks for the comment!!

[@EfferusZangetsu]

@@KODEGREY Yeah, you should probably have gotten the XL, air system would take care of the fine tuning during the break in period. I went from 1-2 pumps during the first season to 3-4 pumps now. It sucks that you have such negative experience, cause I always recommend it as one of the best bang for the buck helmets. Thank you for a detailed, honest review.

[@KODEGREY]

@@EfferusZangetsu I was originally going to. But my previous helmet was a Bell Qualifier in XL. It got very loose by the end of the first year. I didn't want that happening again. I actually really like almost everything about the R1 air, other than the fit. I am actually thinking about ordering the new one when it comes out. Just in XL this time!! LoL.

[@TheMotorcycleBoss]

Ya. I am really suprised to hear the pump was resting on his lips. That doesn't sound like any Scorpion helmet I've ever had. And I've been using their flagships for 11 years with zero issues.

[@hamishrhodes5108]

Sounds to me like you might have slighty more of an oval vs intermediate oval head mate. I wear a Large in the RPHA 11 and my Shoei NXR and found the EXO R1 Air to have ample room in the chin bar area and no pressure points.

[@EpicAdamMotovlogs]

I have the exo carbon 1400 black. It's a great helmet. This video got me thinking that maybe I should do a long term review.

[@KODEGREY]

You should! Sometimes things seem great at first, and stay that way. But unfortunately sometimes their not so great after awhile. You could help someone buy a good helmet, or save someone a lot of money!

[@KillJoyHot]

As a Firefighter/Medic, I can tell you 9/10 chance that everyone is ok...

[@RastusSoup]

This made me giggle. Recently got off the ambulance, mostly because 99% of people are, in fact, OK. 😂

[@Metrobus271]

I owned a Scorpion EXO 700 in the past and experienced the same headache issues. I was hoping they got passed that with the new R1 Air. Thanks for saving me from making the same mistake again.

[@KODEGREY]

Wow. I didn't know this had been an ongoing issue. And your welcome on the money savings. Thank you for the comment!!!

[@Metrobus271]

BTW if you hadn’t yet selected a new helmet brand to own, I might suggest either Shoei or Arai. I own two Aria’s and one Shoei. Killer quality, well designed and all day comfort. It’s money well spent.

[@KODEGREY]

@@Metrobus271 believe me, both of those brands are definitely on my radar. Now I could be wrong but isn't Arai mainly a round oval head shape? I'm intermediate oval.

[@Metrobus271]

@@KODEGREY no they’re mostly intermediate oval for the US market. Round for the Asian market countries. They specialize knowing this difference.

[@KODEGREY]

@@Metrobus271 oh ok. That's cool. I must have been thinking of a different company. I've never tried either brand but I hear their quality is hard to beat. And if they have intermediate oval options all the better.

[@Wind.Road.Therapy]

I've had my eye on this helmet for a year and when I was ready to purchase they don't have the gloss white in Medium anymore. Thanks for the advice on the matter white, I didn't realize that it would discolor, so il will wait and see if it comes back in gloss white. I currently own a Scorpion EXO-T510.

[@KODEGREY]

If your head size is close to the limit of the shell size. Better go up a size. It can be a very tight fit.

[@NorCal-refrigeration]

I have the exo R1 carbon 2021 model. it’s been great. You do need pin lock in cool weather. Or you’ll fog up. Other than that it’s almost perfect.

[@KODEGREY]

I've been hearing the carbon version is made better than the base version that I bought. I probably should have spent a few dollars!! LoL. Thanks for the comment!!

[@NorCal-refrigeration]

@@KODEGREY I was lucky enough to get to try them on at moto race. A realized that XL was the correct size for me. And it was 100$ off. So I bought it. ( my other helmets were 250$ specials ), the only downside is the visor material is thin and has to have the pin lock for anti fog. Not a big deal. I like the helmet but one size up I recommend.

[@KODEGREY]

@@NorCal-refrigeration Agreed! I should have gone one size up. I think I would have been a bit happier.

[@mamakbakmmerkezi8595]

Hey mate, im considering buy that one aswell but i ride old hayabusa. I just want to ask you if its too much noisy inside (wind noise, pressure etc.) AT HIGH SPEEDS like 250km/h ?

[@NorCal-refrigeration]

@@mamakbakmmerkezi8595 no it’s not bad at all.

[@HarleyFatBoyJr]

Love my scorpion helmet. EXO R420. 🔥🔥

[@KODEGREY]

I almost bought that helmet instead of this one. The carbon looks sick!!

[@HarleyFatBoyJr]

@@KODEGREY inexpensive and ECE rated.

[@KODEGREY]

@@HarleyFatBoyJr Yeah, I spent a bit much on mine. 🤷. But the safety was what I was looking for.

[@HarleyFatBoyJr]

@@KODEGREY right on

[@RigoWolfPrime]

If i may ask... What size head circumference do you have? Cheers. Ps: helpful review as I'm not double checking

[@MotoLopez1k]

The R1 helmet is my fave!!!

[@KODEGREY]

It is my favorite too actually. I need to make an update video for this helmet. Scorpion contacted me and helped me get a size that fits my head. Love this helmet now. Thanks for stopping by the channel man!! Appreciate it!!

[@powamoto]

Thanks for the review. Very thorough! I'm enjoying your videos....keep rocking.....!! And I came with all the thumbs ups

[@peytonhibdon7659]

I own the Bautista version of this lid so I feel I have a valid opinion of it as well. I am a dead bang medium In this as well as my Bell Star and Icon Airframe Pro which are intermediate oval lids too. My head looks nothing like the pic you posted lol. We've all been guilty of keeping that shirt that was a smeduim or that pair of sneaks that were maybe a half size small because we loved how they looked. Think about all you had to do to wear this lid. 😩 On the fogging thing I'm in agreement completely.

[@KODEGREY]

You definitely have the upgraded version of this helmet. I think if I went up to the XL shell size I would have ended up in the same boat as with my Bell Qualifier. Since I already have plenty of room on the sides of my head. Who knows, maybe I just got an odd ball helmet. Also, I'm glad your head doesn't look like that picture! LoL.

[@peytonhibdon7659]

@@KODEGREY I kinda thought you might be closer to a long oval from the fit you got from this lid. www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/arai-signet-x-helmet-2020?gclid=CjwKCAjwnPOEBhA0EiwA609Reb4V_8Liw5ljokvosFOB0_3X1U5vD1DWrjZvQ-rg1h5N_decvI4tThoCFJ4QAvD_BwE

[@KODEGREY]

You might be right. Also my head size is very near the top of the range for large helmets. I was also wondering if this helmet might be more of a round oval since I didn't have this issue with my other helmets. Not really sure.

[@HarleyFatBoyJr]

Lol that picture was hilarious. Greta share Fam. 🤙🏾🔥

[@Gvnz007]

I just purchased this helmet and I don’t know if they have made changes since the release of this video but mines fits amazingly.

[@KODEGREY]

I actually need to make an update video on this helmet. Scorpion sent me another helmet ( one size up ) and it fits me just fine. At the time I made this video I didn't realize the sizing was a little small. Thanks for the comment and stopping by the channel.

[@HarleyFatBoyJr]

Killer intro Fam. Love the logo too. 🤙🏾🔥

[@KODEGREY]

Thanks man!! Worked hard on both.

[@HarleyFatBoyJr]

Is the front camera upside down?? I gotta slap that front camera on already.

[@KODEGREY]

Yep! Upside down. But still records right side up. No need to do any extra editing.

[@HarleyFatBoyJr]

@@KODEGREY awesome. Great review bro.

[@KODEGREY]

@@HarleyFatBoyJr Thanks man!!

[@HarleyFatBoyJr]

Beautiful out.

[@Dwit2EEs]

Sounds like it's pretty safe to say that u purchased the wrong sized helmet🤷🏾‍♂️ U could have just purchased cheek pads and crown pads for XL to give you more room since the shells are the same.

[@mamakbakmmerkezi8595]

Hey mate, im considering buy that one aswell but i ride old hayabusa. I just want to ask you if its too much noisy inside (wind noise, pressure etc.) AT HIGH SPEEDS like 250km/h ?

[@KODEGREY]

It's actually not very noisy at all. And very little wind drag, so your head doesn't get jerked around. I've gotten a larger size since this video and I'm very happy with it now! Thanks for stopping by the channel man!! I appreciate the comment!

[@nicolash.9222]

Weel, for me the sizing issue, you got to own up to it, every helmet is different with different sizes, shapes, and stuff, it he doesnt suit you, you could have had always change instead of modifying it, ripping parts apart etc... Buying an Exo Air to cut the pumping and inflating system off and basically throwing away this feature, I really don't get it tbh, but at least these are points to look out for, I guess

[@KODEGREY]

I really need to make an update video for this. After all it was a sizing issue. Scorpion contacted me and we worked out a different helmet...a larger one. It fits just fine and I been using it since. Turns out even though my head technically fits inside the Large size, it's just too close. I am using an XL now. I appreciate the comment man!! And thanks for stopping by the channel!!

[@CosineHyperbolic]

Tightness front/rear but not the sides, headaches, the pump touching your lips...does all this not just mean you needed to size up? Sounds like it would resolve everything- especially if this did result in loose sides, when you can use the pump to tighten it laterally.

[@KODEGREY]

I would agree with you except for two things. My head size is within the limits of the large shell size. So it should be a snug but good fit. The next shell size is from XL to XXL. I was afraid of it becoming too loose. But I 100% see where you're coming from. Thanks for the comment!

[@CosineHyperbolic]

@@KODEGREY Yeah I'd hesitate to size up in that case too...hm.

[@KODEGREY]

@@CosineHyperbolic Got me scratching my head too. I seriously thought about buying the new version coming out in the next size up. Because I really like the helmet, other than the fit. But $400 is a lot of money to spend if I'm wrong.

[@CosineHyperbolic]

@@KODEGREY I'd probably just bite the restock fee bullet and buy two sizes (or maybe two separate helmets) and return one- I'm paranoid, so I end up doing that for lots of things like shoes and gloves, heh. It's usually worth the confidence it's the right fit.

[@KODEGREY]

@@CosineHyperbolic That's not a bad idea. Might have to look into doing that. At least this time I'd know exactly what I'm looking for.

[@FlacomanXD]

Sounds like (from other comments) you figured to get the xl next time. Another note, I think scorpion designed this for short track jaunts, so less on comfort and more on aerodynamics. Have you thought about trying their ext 1400? Next time you get a helmet in the winter, just try it out in front of the TV for pressure points :)

[@KODEGREY]

Actually Scorpion contacted me about this issue and sent me an XL helmet to use. And you are right, that's all I needed.

[@vincentgonzalez8363]

@@KODEGREY wow, that's awesome! Did they reach out due to this video?

[@KODEGREY]

@@vincentgonzalez8363 Funny enough no! They saw my comment on another persons video. And contacted me from there!

[@RightmireJ]

Can you make the updated video?

[@HarleyFatBoyJr]

Bro I’m looking at another scorpion helmet and came across this video. Lmao. Love it. Great job bro. Went to a local store today and only had an R1 in small but felt pretty bad ass. Think I’m gonna go with another r420

[@KODEGREY]

Just so you know, my opinion has changed since this video! Once Scorpion sent me the proper size, the fitment is SO much better. Also my old R1 Air had a few issues my new one doesn't have. I think they have updated it since I first bought it.

[@HarleyFatBoyJr]

@@KODEGREY sweet but it’s still the R1 though yeah?

[@HarleyFatBoyJr]

@@KODEGREY I’m probably gonna stick with the same helmet but hi w the gloss black instead of the matte

[@ferdelance7474]

I am an XL and the R2000 was a wee bit tight on me, my R420 fits pretty nice (an L with XL cheekpads. hopefully the R1 air fits similar.

[@KODEGREY]

I definitely would recommend going up a size. Especially if your head size is close to the shell size. You don't want headaches and the air pump is VERY close to your mouth. Thank you for the comment!!

[@ferdelance7474]

@@KODEGREY cool, thanks!!! And no prob

[@NYCnapeHb]

For Carbon R1, do you think gloss will be less scratch touchy?

[@KODEGREY]

Yes. Matte paint scratches very easily. The carbon version has a much better finish. Also, I think the carbon version is a better helmet than the base model, which is what I own. People are having better luck with quality and fitment on the carbon model. Thank you for the comment!!

[@MS-hs7od]

Why do you talk with brakes?

[@Obituarybunny]

Thinking about giving this helmet a try as my first ( my heads kinda weird so it might work out 😅) , were you able to do something or change the visors so they wouldn’t fog up as much ?

[@KODEGREY]

First, if you're going to get this helmet, I would recommend going up a size if your head is close to the shell size limit. You don't want headaches!! The helmet comes with 2 shields, clear and dark smoke, but only one pin lock insert. Order a second pin lock insert when you order the helmet and you will have no problems with fogging at all. Thanks for the comment!!

[@Obituarybunny]

@@KODEGREY thanks so much for the info !

[@KODEGREY]

@@Obituarybunny Anytime. Glad I could help!

[@Obituarybunny]

@@KODEGREY one last question ! Sorry haha , do you think it matters if a new rider wears a tinted visor or not ? Or would you recommend starting with a clear visor till comfortable on a bike

[@KODEGREY]

@@Obituarybunny Actually, I think you should wear a dark visor during the day, you want to see as much as possible and not have the sun blind you. And the clear at night. Don't wear the dark visor at night if you can help it. It's hard enough to see at night as it is.

[@amy40c]

What about wind noise?

[@KODEGREY]

Wind noise is minimal. Even at high speeds I've never thought ( I really need ear plugs ). I need to make an update video on this helmet. I've gotten a proper fitting once since I made this video and I really like the helmet now. Appreciate you stopping by the channel!!

[@amy40c]

@@KODEGREY thank you! I'm glad that it fits you now and thanks for sharing such an important update with us! I have a bit more oval head so I think it would be less possible for me to choose the wrong size 😄

[@amy40c]

@@KODEGREY Could you please just tell me what is your head measurement and which is the new size that fits you? Just so that I can compare with myself while ordering, whether I should get the size bigger or something. I am around 55.7cm and that is for the S size, but I have tried it at the local store and bearly could put it on my head and I had a lot of preassure everywhere (especially on forehead and back), but guy in the store was telling me that is okay and it would break in a bit in some time. The M size is snug on a lot of points (maybe on sides of the back not really but I am feeling just right wearing it). This is looking like the situation you had. So could you please tell me your thoughts about this and an advice for my situation? I would be very thankfull!

[@KODEGREY]

@@amy40c I can't remember my exact head size. But it was just barely within the limit of the Large shell. Which ended up being too tight. Once I went up. To the Extra Large shell size it fits perfectly. Don't listen to that guy at the store. If you are having that many hot spots just trying it on it's too small and you will end up getting bad headaches after less than an hour of riding. I'm guessing your head size is close to the limit of the Small Shell. So I would absolutely go up to the Medium Shell. Yes the pads will break in on the small, but not that much. Save yourself a lot of hassle and go for the medium. Hope this helps!!

[@amy40c]

@@KODEGREYYes, my head size is at the upper extreme of size S (I'm 55.7cm and the S is 55-56cm). Yeah, I know right.. I almost ripped my ears while trying to put on the S size and I was red like a red pepper within a minute lol.. I am going with the M size, I can always use balaclava and the cheek pump to fit in better if needed. Thank you so much man. I appreciate it very much, you helped me a lot with my botheration about this.

[@CBR4Hondo]

Looks like your riding through mentor? I’m right in Perry village 👍 I’m looking at the R1 air carbon glossy, AVG k6, Shoei 1400. I currently have a Sedici strada 2

[@KODEGREY]

Haha! Yep! I'm riding through Mentor! I work in Mentor! Too funny, I actually don't live very far from Perry! I need to make an update video to this. Scorpion sent me a new helmet in XL, and it has better interior lining. It is a much much better fitting helmet!! I almost have nothing to complain about now.

[@CBR4Hondo]

@@KODEGREY damn that’s awesome! We should meet up for a ride this spring/summer! I could pull out the 18 grom or 21 S1000RR. I saw you have a CBR1000RR now, I had an 18 CB1000R and 17 CBR1000RR prior to my BMW. The Blade was a great bike and super reliable for sure. I’ll probably go with the Scorpion as I need to pick up some new gear anyway this year.

[@KODEGREY]

@@CBR4Hondo Dude that would be awesome!! Would be really cool to meet up with someone local!!

[@CBR4Hondo]

@@KODEGREY just need some nicer weather and non salty roads lol

[@KODEGREY]

@@CBR4Hondo yeah, exactly!

[@HarleyFatBoyJr]

Scorpion helmets definitely fit my fat head the best.

[@joshholtz7586]

Yoo watching this review to get a good idea on the helmet and realized you're riding in Mentor! lmao, I live in mentor.

[@KODEGREY]

Dude no kidding?? That's awesome!! Hey man, Scorpion sent me a larger helmet since I made this review. It fits much better. If your head size is close to the limit of the shell size, then size up and it will fit pretty good!!

[@joshholtz7586]

@@KODEGREY Good to know. I ordered the R1 Carbon in XL🤟🏻

[@SchmooFuzzy]

Sounds like you should’ve ordered an XL

[@KODEGREY]

I ended up doing exactly that. Still using it to this day. I really need to make an update video for this! Thanks for stopping by the channel man!! Appreciate it.

[@DoraKage]

Helmet fitting question. My head measures at 62. I tried a Sohei XL where it says it's the right size, and it was a proper fit. BUT I tried an Arai XL, and it wouldn't fit :( - had to go XXL for it. This kind of frightens me from taking a gamble and buying online. Im very interested to buy a Scorpion EXO R1, but im in the border between XL and XXL fearing getting a too tight or a too loose fit. Can anyone here spare some advise? Anyone here a size 62 who owns a Scorpion? would love to hear your thoughts. Cheers.

[@KODEGREY]

All helmets tend to fit a bit different. But if you plan on trying the Scorpion EXO, and your head size is close to the limit of the shell size, then get the next size up. It tends to run a bit small. Thank you for the comment!!

[@vladimpaler8159]

My guy it sounds like you bought the wrong helmet for your head shape... not sure if you are aware, but there are 3 different head shapes that helmet manufacturers build their helmets around which are round, intermediate oval, and long oval. If you have all that pressure and your mouth/lips touch inside of the helmet then you definitely have the wrong shaped head for that helmet... I personally have a weird shaped head so this helmet isn't the most comfortable for me, but it's brand new and that foam padding ends up molding around your headshape (if you are within a certain size range and have mostly the right overall headshape). I had slight pressure headaches right above the temples, but it was not severe to begin with and I can already feel the helmet easing up in that area after only 4ish hours of use. Most forums and helmet guides state that it can take around 15 hours of riding for your helmet to form to your head. I'm not at all trying to bash you on your review, but if you bought the helmet for the wrong headshape then this would be the equivalent of me a (a right handed user) to review a left-handed computer mouse and then complain about how it's uncomfortable for my right hand.

[@KODEGREY]

Thank you for the comment man!! I actually have to do an update video to this. Scorpion contacted me about this and sent me an XL helmet to see if it would work for me. After 8 months the helmet fits fine and the padding has held strong. So no more headaches and the air pump is no longer an issue either.

[@vladimpaler8159]

@@KODEGREY hell yea dude happy to hear that! Yea helmet sizing is tricky and I have learned that the hard way. What I did this time around was I found a local seller who had a r1 air in large and I tried it on. It felt too loose so I ordered a medium one online.

[@KODEGREY]

@@vladimpaler8159 Awesome!! That's funny, you had the reverse problem! 😂.

[@bigredmachine55]

Too bad it doesn't fit. It's a good looking lid

[@KODEGREY]

I know, it sucks. Thought maybe I should have went to the next size up. But I might have ran into the same issues.

[@drjones694]

I've been on the fence with this helmet for months saved up enough and everything but can't push the button I've had the past scorpion models and I love them a lot but I tried this one on at the store and you're right that fit it's just weird and your mouth does get really close to the front of the helmet I thought it was just me I don't know what they did or why they changed the shape inside the helmet and the visors used to come fog free and worked really good the new ones don't that's so weird I can't do it and I'm so disappointed for the brand hjc is taking over who would've known with the rpha 11 pro great helmet

[@KODEGREY]

I know what you mean. The helmet is really good except for the internals. Thanks for the comment!!

[@HarleyFatBoyJr]

Bummer. Damn that helmet was 400 bucks. Yikes.

[@emilyhansen9054]

Skip to @5:15 for when he actually starts talking about the R1 helmet. This video needs to be a lot shorter brother!

[@KODEGREY]

Thanks Emily, I agree! When I made this video I was pretty new to motovlogging. ( Still am actually ). I was still trying to get better at it. Thanks for the comment!

[@emilyhansen9054]

@@KODEGREY you are doing great; keep going.

[@KODEGREY]

@@emilyhansen9054 Thank you very much!! I really appreciate that!!

[@luisflopezjr]

Why didn't you just wear it around the house for an hour. Dude I wouldn't be uncomfortable to save $400 bucks. Get a helmet that fits and stop dumping on Scorpion.

[@KODEGREY]

I did wear it around the house for about 15 to 20 minutes. Everything seemed fine. Other than the pump being so close to my mouth. Didn't notice the issue till after an hour of riding. Not really dumping on Scorpion, the helmet is really good other than the fit. I probably should have gone up a size, but I was afraid of it becoming too loose over time. Thanks for the comment!

[@yashamaru86]

If you cut these dramatic pauses in between almost every word, this review woudl last 2min at max😂

[@Draznesht]

you review sound like you bough a porsche 911 and since you head is touching the roof you made a hole on the roof to show your head and complain that it is too windy for such a price :))))

[@KODEGREY]

Know what's even funnier?.... I'm still using this helmet!! 😁. Scorpion actually contacted me and sent me a few different sizes to try. They said they do run a bit small compared to other companies. Extra large fit perfectly and I'm still wearing it today! I really need to make an update video!! 🤷