Culloden Wasn't the Last Jacobite Hurrah

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

For What They Don't Say About The Battle of Culloden click kzbin.info/www/bejne/o17RopeAbr2Hiac OR The Scotsman Who Fought for George Washington AND Bonnie Prince Charlie at kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4HEn3ePetSMnqM

[@kentait66]

..fully intend to catch up with these later on (Many thanks, Bruce)🙏👏👏

[@ayethein7681]

Thank you. Though an Englishman, I found your story so compelling, I was almost rooting for the plan to succeed.

[@justtruth5855]

@@danisdphoto think the entries were small one to keep the heat in, and 2nd if they were being attacked then the invaders would have to bend down.

[@sipjedekat8525]

One of the few people who can confidently rock sunglasses in scottish weather while educating us peasants with epic storytelling skills. Another 15 minutes of my life well spent.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

😂

[@zipphora9456]

Thank you so much for your video! I am Hungarian, but I have been a fan of Scottish history since I was a child. A few months ago I did a DNA test, and it turns out I'm 54% Scottish. :D A couple of my cousins and I started to investigate and found out that our family had fled to France and from there to Hungary after the Battle of Culloden. Unfortunately, not much is taught about Scottish history in schools in Hungary, which is why I am so grateful for your videos.Watching them, I feel I can learn a part of my family's history that I haven't had much chance to see before. Thanks Bruce.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

I've been to Budapest twice. Quite a city

[@donaldmurchison7549]

I am of Scottish ancestry but I live here in Hungary. I am interested in the Jacobite period.

[@nadiamurchie1949]

is it true hungary laugh at us for being not very generous? because the working and poorest of us will give you the shirt off our backs and buy you so much beverage ( beer) i would love to see hungary and buy you all a beer xxx

[@rodvaughan1475]

Back in 1979, while clearing ditches at Inveruglas for the Forestry Commission, I dredged up some unexpected debris one dark Winter's afternoon. Closer examination revealed it to be what looked like a pair of leather slippers. Tentatively establishing there was nothing more sinister attached to them I carefully placed them in my piece-bag and marked the site where they were unearthed. At the time my (now late) mother worked in the Highland Folk Museum (then located in Kingussie) and after handing in my find to her, the items were duly sent to Edinburgh where they were carbon-dated. Much to the chagrin of my skeptical fellow workers, and my quiet satisfaction, it was confirmed that the items were indeed Jacobean 'dress shoes', thought to have been dropped by a clansman heading for Ruthven Barracks following their defeat at Culloden. My mother later went on to accept an MBE for her long term voluntary work at the museum and the experience of finding the shoes further instilled a never-ending fascination for Scottish history in me.

[@julianndavis9415]

American here. Even I know what an MBE is. What an amazing story. If I ever get to travel, I want to go see those shoes for myself. I hope there’s a little card posted with the story!

[@jumbodoug]

That's the great thing about historians and archeologists today. It used to be searching for valuables, for gold, silver or jewellery artifacts. But today there's as much interest in a pair of shoes. The everyday items that the ordinary person used. Wonder if historians will be interested in our Nike or addidas trainers a few centuries from now, lol. Good find btw and well done for handing them in to the museum where others can view them

[@dabba_dabba]

I know nothing of Scotland nor do I have Scottish ancestry nor will Scotland ever probably affect my life in anyway but i love watching this guy talk about it

[@fearthekilt]

Good morning from America! The Venerable Bruce has once again told us a wonderful story. I have never heard that little piece of history before and I was captivated for 14 minutes and 33 seconds. Entertaining and educational, my Saturday can't be a bad one when it starts like that. Thanks Bruce, looking forward to your next installment.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Ah, you're too nice

[@Syl-Vee]

An elegant and succinct analytical summary of what most of us only recall as a list of dates and places. Thanks, Bruce!

[@ianmacfarlane1241]

Fascinating as always Bruce. I watch a number of historical channels, and alongside The History Guy and Mark Felton this is amongst the best of the bunch. (Some might argue that it's not much of a compliment to rate it alongside other channels, but while they're very different in content and style, they are all outstanding channels.)

[@rozbrown6826]

Thanks Bruce for another glittery nugget of Scottish history... Brightens up a dreich Scottish Saturday... Love to you 💕💕

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Aye, dreich here an a'

[@thecelticprince4949]

Your simply the best there Bruce. Each week of "Let me tell ye a story" never gets old.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Aw shucks

[@charlesdriggers199]

A true Scotsman you are. This story builds on your other Jacobite videos remarkably. It definitely opens the eyes to a part of history that most do not know are linked together. I new vaguely that Culloden was not the actual end, but did not know the breadth and scope of how far it went in history. Great video.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Cheers

[@johnfrancis2215]

As a Sassenach may I say how much I enjoy Scotland History Tours, only just found this site and I find it amazing, you should be on the telly

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Welcome aboard

[@trikepilot101]

Fascinating, as ever. As an Anglo Canadian I always "cheered for" the British in my history classes in elementary school. Later I realised that, as a highland descendant and in view of the auld alliance my sympathies really should have lain with the French. Life is complicated. You make history fun.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Aye, it's no straight forward

[@julianndavis9415]

However, it does make clear why someone is a ‘war hero’ to one country and a ‘barbarian murderer’ to another country. Depends who you relate to as ‘one of us’.

[@andrewdrummond8576]

The Auld Alliance effectively ended in 1560 when Scotland became a protestant state.

[@jumbodoug]

@@julianndavis9415 one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. It frequently depends on what side you are looking at it from

[@kellyprice1024]

The Victors write the history.

[@MrWilliamglover]

I found your channel I admit by mistake. As a lover of all things historical and British I will admit that I've focused way to much on English history. I can name all the English kings but only a handful of Scottish kings. Thank you for showing another side of British history keep up the good work!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Welcome aboard!

[@billycaspersghost7528]

The last "English King" died on October 14th 1066 . How many English Kings can you name upto his demise?

[@BarryHWhite]

Don't you worry yer wee heed aboot it m8... I'm Scottish, and cant name allot of Scotland's King's !.

[@williamharwood6139]

​@@billycaspersghost7528 Not true. If the kings after King Harold can't be considered English because of French influence then the English language shouldn't be called English for the same reason

[@billycaspersghost7528]

@@williamharwood6139 Not my point really Just commented on the idea that Scotland's Kings are solely the ones ignored to some extent in the curriculum. I was never taught about those before William I. Oh! apart from a disjointed appearance by that Great bake off failure ,Alfred Aethelwulfsson. History seemed to start with William 1st. From William it is Norman Angevin Welsh Scots Dutch Scots Hanoverian Saxe Coburg (Windsor) An interesting but little known fact is how the Saxe-Coburg Gotha`s became Windsor. Facing rising anti German feeling in Britain ,the S-C dynasty looked to change the name to something quintessentially British. They chose the name of a popular beef soup they loved. Windsor soup. Imagine if Cock- a- Leekie had been their favourite!!!

[@HarcusCGTV]

Superb mate, love these... love a bit of history and I love your delivery of it even more.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Many thanks!

[@japanesehighlander]

Amazing how things can change with a few daring commanders and victories which change the course of history. Thanks for another great story

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Our pleasure!

[@rachelduncan5560]

Great again Bruce wonderful listening

[@michaelwhisman7623]

I found an original Jacobite book at a yard sale. The people had no idea what it was. I bought it for 50 cents. LOL

[@alasdairmackintosh]

My dads great grandfather came to Nova Scotia from Scotland, and my grandfather of my mother's side of the family was Breton from Brittany. I'm really proud of my celtic heritage on both sides.

[@julianndavis9415]

I love it when you discuss Culloden. I've had so many discussions with friends about 'why it happened' and 'what happened after'. But I'm just a nobody who knows nothin. Your expertise is appreciated. And you make it enjoyable to listen to !

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

You should buy Murray's book

[@andrewduke1489]

The Dad's Army reference was golden! Well played, Sir.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

😜

[@fodicky4]

This channel keeps getting better and better

[@gordonpeden6234]

Fascinating when you step back and take in the bigger picture. I was blissfully unaware of the sea battles, and arm wrestling twixt England and France and the political fallout on Scotland. Thanks!

[@jmunro-graham1568]

I consider myself well read in History, but this is new information to me. You’re a gem 👍

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Happy to help😎

[@jumbodoug]

History is written by the victor. Bruce looks at history from many different angles, different sources, and gives us a more balanced view. History isn't black and white, Bruce gives us the many shades of grey that's often left out

[@richardhallyburton]

Interesting that Ruthven Barracks featured in such a pivotal time in Scottish history. I reckon it was also the site of the battle of Nechtansmere, the original Dun Nachton, before the later one a few miles up the road.

[@HardThrasher]

I continue to be impressed both by your brilliant grasp of the narrative, and the production quality of your videos. All power to you.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Thank you sir

[@daylemackintosh9966]

I used to hate school that’s for sure but history I could not get enough and this channel reminds of the lessons brilliant channel

[@fredarcher7264]

Thank you for this , as a history teacher , I love your style .

[@zali13]

Well done, Bruce! Your retelling of the naval battle was as witty and concise as Drachinifel!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

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[@geowidman]

Thank you Bruce for getting our foot off the brake at Culloden 🤔, sewing together the following events in sane perspective. Nice to see that pile of stones and the horses at Kingussie once again!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Very welcome

[@byronofrothdale]

Once again you surprised me with a little piece of Scottish history that I didn't know. Very interesting and as entertaining as always. Thanks a lot, Bruce. 😁

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@byronofrothdale]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours Enjoy it? No, love it. 😁 Unha aperta (a hug) from Galicia.

[@LarryGiddings-g9z]

Luv it, my brother. L Giddings. Born, 1952, Rosstal, Bavarian Germany.

[@hazbojangles2681]

Got my Higher History Prelim tomorrow. I’ve been rewatching all your videos to get in the correct mindset. Not sure how I’ll do on the American paper though, however I’m feeling very confident with Scotland.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Oh God, don't use anything I say😂😂😂

[@hazbojangles2681]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours I’ve heard that the SQA markers are a pain so unfortunately I have to use things that are taught in the course. The videos are still getting me in a good mindset though.

[@janetmackinnon3411]

Always informative and interesting. Thank you.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Thanks for watching!

[@robertolds6178]

Watched 2x as it was very enjoyable, and informative. As usual, I was able to gain even more clarity on American Colonial history. Thanks.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Glad it was helpful!

[@nickthenoodle9206]

English Jacobites? I learn something every day from this man.

[@Sonny-m1f]

U didn't know there were English Jacobites?

[@yonderhillwildlife]

@ScotlandHistoryTours Thank you for telling herstory and theirstory. For so long we have only ever heard "his story"

[@TRUCKERBHOY]

As a Youngster growing up in Newtonmore. Myself and my Brother and our parents went to Ruthven Barracks for the day, and I found a cannonball on the side 9f the Barracks. And handed it into the local Highland Folk Museum when it was based in Kingussie , there was never a reported incident of Cannon fire on Ruthven Barracks. To this day I have never heard anymore abt the cannonball I found.

[@jambutty2218]

Great show. Ambassador you are spoiling us with sound effects and TV references. Keep up the good work. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

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[@michaelmcronald7450]

Great job you are truly a great teacher or professor. I truly love these clips. Keep up the good work.

[@wexfordgirl1]

Morning All Fummies. Now to the highlight of my weekend. Thank you Bruce as per.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

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[@OcculiMortis]

Another great lesson from the master.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

😘

[@gerryphilly53]

Another great video. I didn’t know about this aspect of the Seven Years’ War. The French plan to invade Britain and the weakened condition of the French Navy solves the mystery of France’s inability to adequately defend its Canadian colonies. Had the planned two-pronged invasion of Britain been staged successfully the North American map would most likely be very different (not to mention the rest of the world).

[@josephwalukonis9934]

The weakness of the French Navy was also due to a plague that hit French coastal cities and towns in 1755-1756. Britain was hit as well but to a lesser extent.

[@barbaralavoie1045]

Bruce, this vlog is very interesting. Thank you🥰 I really like seeing these old ruins.👍

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks

[@johncartwright6395]

Been watching have learned an amazing lot. Keep up the great work. Slainte!

[@johncartwright6395]

Thanks, Bruce

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Thank YOU

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

I'm delighted

[@bigredmarchingon3200]

Cant believe I'm 3 days late to another great video! i usually catch these with in the first day!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

This is the first day. You've gained two days somewhere. Lucky git

[@aleciastephens5548]

Thanks for these videos! These are great!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Glad you like them!

[@plumduffy334]

Just recently found yer channel big man absolute class storytelling and insights into our wee country's amazing history. Subscribed and look forward to more videos.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Welcome aboard!

[@siobhannshannon-bbc2983]

Thanks, Bruce! I just started Murray Pittock's "Culloden."

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Yay

[@garybrindle6715]

Brilliant story telling as usual thanks.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Thanks for listening

[@cmaden78]

The sarcasm is greatly appreciated 🥰😏

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

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[@duncanbrough1455]

Bruce, that was so interesting. I had never heard of Quiberon before, although I have travelled in Brittany several times before. So, onto Google Earth it was! What a fabulous place it looks and the history of the place is there in abundance. Please continue to educate us and give us a laugh at the same time, Captain Mainwaring indeed 😂.

[@thethinker8805]

Another great video just love Saturday morning

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Delighted

[@whir4us]

You taught my kids a few years back in the wee toon that has a famous golf course with the "War of the Worlds"?ornament on the roundabout (circle). They certainly looked up to you as they still think you were their best teacher. Thanks for their memories. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Are you sure. I can't work out what the town was. Could it be another devastatingly handsome fat Afro Celtic guy?

[@whir4us]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours sure was 👍

[@RhettButlersMom]

Cool. Just found your channel. Watched Outlander THREE times!

[@krisgreenwood5173]

My 3x great-grandfather was the military governor of Stirling Castle. While he was there, he had Jacobite prisoners in the Castle's jail. Eventually, several of the prisoners were hung, and the rest either transfered to a different prison or were aquitted. William Henry Peddie passed in 1877. His granddaughter was my great grandmother.

[@johnspizziri1919]

Fascinating story. Bravo.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Thank you

[@peterbrown6434]

Superb Info and Location,yes i love this Location!!

[@paulp1276]

Fascinating as usual ...Thanks

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

My pleasure!

[@patricksarsfield5138]

Superb. Viewer from Ireland.

[@Downloadeodeo]

Thank goodness!

[@douglasherron7534]

Loved the Dad's Army reference!

[@harry9392]

Great video as usual , during the seven years was the French troops landed in Carrickfergus and started the battle of Carrickfergus

[@EyreAffair]

Your video was very informative and enjoyable! On the topic of the Jacobites, if you're interested, I just overhauled the Wikipedia page for Prince Joseph Wenzel of Liechtenstein, who is currently the third (?) in line to the Jacobite claim after his mother: Sophie, Duchess in Bavaria. Due to his mother's Scottish ancestry and Jacobite claim, there was talk in 2019 by "The Daily Mail" and other Scottish and UK outlets of Prince Joseph "becoming the King of an independent Scotland". Through his mother, Prince Joseph Wenzel is a descendant of the Scottish Clan Douglas, as well as King Charles I of England of the House of Stuart (Clan Stewart). The current holder of the claim, his maternal grand-uncle Franz, Duke of Bavaria, has no children. Upon his death, the Jacobite claim will pass to Prince Max-Emanuel, Duke in Bavaria, the maternal grandfather of Prince Joseph Wenzel. Upon the passing of Prince Max-Emanuel, Duke in Bavaria, the claim will pass to his eldest child and daughter, Sophie, Duchess in Bavaria; and from her, to Prince Joseph Wenzel, his grandson. His Clan Douglas ancestry comes from Robert Douglas, Count of Skenninge (17 March 1611 - 28 May 1662), a Scottish cavalry general during the Thirty Years' War who rose to the rank of Field Marshal (1657-1662) in the Swedish-Polish wars. He founded the Swedish branch of Clan Douglas. If you're wondering "How did a Scotsman end up becoming a noble in Sweden?", a branch of the Clan Bruce in Scotland - relatives of Robert the Bruce - also emigrated from Scotland to Russia to 1647. Many families of Scottish origin were also part of the Russian Empire's landed aristocracy, including descendants of Clan Ramsay, Clan Leslie, Clan Drummond, and Clan Hamilton. If you go back further into the Scottish ancestry of Prince Joseph Wenzel of Liechtenstein, he also descends from Clans Borthwick, Crichton, Crawford, and the Earls of Dunbar and March.

[@snowman3630]

BRILLIANT VIDEOS BROTHER , AND THE NEW EXCAVATIONS OF CULLODEN TO GET A MORE ACCURATE HISTORY OF THE BATTLE ON THE MOORE , MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY BRUCE TAKE CARE ☃️🎄☃️🎄🎅

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

You'll have a busy time over Christmas with all the modelling work you get on the cards, so don't overdo it

[@donmcclurg3158]

My ancestor John McClurg immigrated from Newton Stewart Scotland to the America in 1752 and from what I gathered in the research the loss at Culloden was the reason. Also his father James McClurg and Barbara Vance were married at the Penningham House in 1708. Would there have been a reason for them to get married there?

[@MichaelLeBlanc-p4f]

Simply Good Stuff !

[@tireemacleods]

Brilliant as usual, wish you were my history teacher.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Wow, thank you!

[@blstewart001]

This is new to me. Awesome!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Billiant

[@fester73666]

Another great video bruce, thanks👍

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@therenewedpoet4292]

Getting woke up by drums and flutes at 8:30am today makes us all Jacobites

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

I can imagine

[@Slugnworm]

Love ya Bruce!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

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[@jerichostevens2711]

fantastic as always.

[@steven.ghodgson765]

get away Bruce , I never knew that . Brilliant

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

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[@conanzbarbarian]

Can you do a video on William Wallace Anderson? A Jacobite who fled to America and fought alongside George Washington.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

No, but here's one kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4HEn3ePetSMnqM

[@djonfonsteen6331]

Love the Dads Army analogy. Imagine what the French would have made of the Novelty Rock Emporium.. and that epic tale that would have been "The Battle of Godfrey's Chateau".

[@elendil7]

Beautiful horses❤️

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

That was my wife's reaction as well

[@elendil7]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours 😂👍 Please tell your wife, great minds...

[@kellyprice1024]

My ancestor left from Campbelltown in 1770 and sailed to the east coast of Canada. While off ship in PEI, the ship he travelled on, Annabella, sank off shore with all the belongings of the passengers. There is a monument in PEI to commemorate this disaster with the names and my ancestors name is there.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

😥

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Come to one of my live shows in Canada in 2024. Shows in Halifax, Annapolis, New Glasgow, Moncton, Montreal, Perth , Ottawa, Toronto, Fergus, Seaforth, Calgary, Vancouver and Victoria. Most of the details are here. www.brucefummey.co.uk/shows.aspx

[@facelessnomore]

Another great and interesting story. Just one thing Derby to London is a hell of a long spit! In the mid seventies I worked in Derby in a building which had (allegedly) been occupied by some of the Jacobite retenue.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Was there saliva?

[@vespelian5769]

A nice appraisal of Quiberon Bay in context.

[@davidprosser7278]

Great series. I'm glad you used the term capsized rather than 'overturned'. That just sounds illiterate. Keep them coming please.

[@jayturner3397]

Luv these m8t as a cockney Irish jock lol..took a mate there on way to Inverness once he knew nothing about history, stopping at Urquhart Castle..he felt very uneasy but couldn't think why..I told him when back in England lol

[@theheartsoulhealing1621]

great insight and information! have you done a history video on Clan Donnachaidh yet? I just found your channel. thanks!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

I've tended to avoid clan histories

[@theheartsoulhealing1621]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours appreciate the response keep up the good work!

[@leonwilliams5202]

hi bruce, i spoke about my grand ma, the greatest scot, she would say as i walked onto her driveway "hello my ruben and how have you been" i guess that means she was pleased to see me. keep up the good work one day i will let you know my middle name. tks m8

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Oooh the anticipation😜

[@julianshepherd2038]

This was almost all new to me. Top vid

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Thanks Julian

[@Crusty_Camper]

Very interesting, Bruce. Real life is so much more complicated than the Hollywood version of those times. Happy Christmas to you and your family. Pete.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Very true! Merry Christmas and a happy New Year

[@Nick-bp7jf]

Another great Video, thank you. You are a superb orator and an absolute pleasure to listen to. You mentioned a 'double agent' persuading the Jacobites at Derby to return to Scotland. Have you made a Video about their march south? If so i have missed it. Was the 'double agent' likely to have been Lord George Murray?

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

No is the answer to both questions. Hopefully I'll be making enough videos in future that I'll get round to this

[@davidbarr9343]

I think Culloden was the last Jacobite hurrah, 1759 was barely a whimper. Great video as always. Well done.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Thanks for that!

[@alansmithee8831]

A'reyt Bruce. You make the story so entertaining. This usually gets overshadowed by the later Trafalgar. Rule Bruce Fummey. Bruce Fummey the waves (Poseidon like picture).

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

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[@iainsmith6643]

Excellent

[@racheltaylor6578]

I read that Bonnie Prince Charlie renounced the Catholic faith at St Mary le Strand church in London and became an Anglican on a secret visit in 1750.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

I've heard that said

[@vgang3605]

Love your content a loved the highlands one of my great grandfathers was black watch

[@rhebelrhouser2813]

Another beauty Bruce. I honestly thought I was well up on our history but I’m a baby compared to you

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

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[@peterblood50]

All that history and a joke with a rimshot. 😅 You are the best Bruce.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

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[@TudorSmith]

Don't tell him Pike! LOLZ! Another great video. Thanks

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

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[@robertdaley1194]

Hi Bruce have you covered Lord Thomas Cochrane’s career /adventures?.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

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[@SteveSmith-67]

I shall be at ruthven well walking past on Thursday

[@garybobst9107]

I wonder if my ancestors in clan Crawford were in that fight,and which side?

[@stephenargent4010]

I’m not sure that Derby was ‘in spitting distance of London’ but another excellent production

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Depends where you started and how far you can spit I suppose

[@stephenargent4010]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours haha! Good answer

[@steveosborne2297]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours I think I know the genuine reason for them to have turned back . You forgot to mention that the small stone monument to the limit of the Scottish advance is actually in a pub beer garden . Knowing as many Scots as I do , I think once they drunk the pub dry it was time to go home for a decent pint of 80/-

[@boxingbreakdowns1016]

Bruce. I hope you don't mind a recommendation. What about history past but out the door. New Lanark, Robert Owen, the educational set up. The living standards. The basic pathway that many a man, country and their dog followed. Also a world heritage site. I'm sure you must have been. I just think it's another story untold from our past. The good and the bad. If you see me down there one day then you can add the ugly to that. Thanks for any consideration. Even a fleeting moment, as long as it registers for a cycle will do.