Scott Hall - Why Bob Backlund Stopped Wrestling Diesel in WWF

[@TitleMatchWrestling]

RIP to the late-great Scott Hall Stream the Full Shoot Interview (2007) ➡titlematchnetwork.com/wrestling-shoot-interviews-results/

[@drewc771]

"...And I think I throw a pretty good punch." The BEST, imo. Hall's a legend. RIP.

[@Drummer_Jeff83]

I never knew Scott's discus punch was a Kerry tribute. Ive seen him do it a million times. That's pretty fucking cool.

[@johncook9392]

Scott Hall's punches with the final discus one were my favorite of any wrestler ever... Never knew it was a Kerry tribute, makes me like it even more!!!

[@Drummer_Jeff83]

@@johncook9392 right on! Same here for sure. Scott was the man

[@pandavelli8176]

Me neither. That’s cool

[@Plexpara]

i thought he just stole it.

[@Ivotas]

Man all those different clips of this interview just show how much Scott got the actual craft of wrestling. I think he would have been a good fit in a creative position at WWE.

[@jamesmiller5331]

Check him out on Steve Austin's podcast. Dude was super intelligent.

[@Ivotas]

@@jamesmiller5331 Oh, he was on it? Will definitely have to check it out. Thanks for the info. But yeah man, dude already comes across as super intelligent.

[@jamesmiller5331]

@@Ivotas enjoy man. I listen to it about once per year or so. Best interview Scott ever did. Free on KZbin decided into 2 parts.

[@AAAA-lt9hq]

Just now saw this. I feel silly saying exactly what you said 4 months after you, but you're dead on.

[@Rob-Mc]

This was AWESOME! Thank you for sharing this. I've never seen him talk this candid and just here in the moment

[@richardstetson8221]

This whole interview was on KZbin for a while I watched it a couple times I looked for it now and there is a version with just the audio and there is a channel called WCW fan forever that has like an hour of it I guess it's when he's talking about his time in WCW

[@Rob-Mc]

@@richardstetson8221 thanks man. I'm going to look it up. I appreciate you.

[@richardstetson8221]

@Rob-Mc if you look up 2007 Scott Hall shoot interview you should be able to find the full interview with just the audio

[@ModernDayRenaissanceMan]

Last call with Scott Hall is something you should look up. He basically was doing his own KZbin show before these podcasts ever became popular

[@Rob-Mc]

@@ModernDayRenaissanceMan will do. Thanks for the heads up.

[@AAAA-lt9hq]

Scott had such a sharp mind for putting proper matches and opponents together. You can tell he really observed the business. It's a shame he wasn't put in more of a formal creative position once he was in less shape to wrestle consistently. He could have really helped HHH and Shawn Michaels with the post-Vince WWE.

[@Mr_Santi907]

He has said Mr perfect was one of his mentors who really helped hone Scotts craft when he was in WWF. I love this stuff. Great comment by you.

[@johnliberty3647]

I didn’t see much of Scott Hall when he wrestled but he describing how he handled working with Backland tells me that he really knew how to work a crowd/match and make the most of what he had.

[@redactedandredactedaccesor7290]

He did for sure

[@natmason5528]

When he was straight he was a great worker. He also had a major impact on Sting's gimmick change to the Crow.

[@djdonald243]

Yah, he knew how to work a crowd and a match but not how to wrestle.

[@tomvu1470]

More important, Hall (to my knowledge) *never* hurt anybody in the ring while still making it 'look real' in the ring.

[@lazyfrogeyes5949]

@@djdonald243 Well he could but this is wrasslin not an actual sport . So it doesn't matter if he had a 100 piece move set .

[@NunYabidness-e1j]

By the time Kevin appeared on the scene Scott was a 10+ year veteran having worked AWA WCW Big Scott Hall The Diamond Studd which is where he met Nash who was WCWs Oz

[@Rockhound6165]

Ah but Nash joined the Diamond Exchange as Vinny Vegas.

[@ants84]

Dick Murdoch was an exceptional worker. Legend goes that he used to tell his opponents a joke throughout the match, but would time it so that he’d give them the punchline just as he was taking a backwards bump over the top to the outside. Tremendous stuff! 🤣🤣🤣

[@Viprz]

Scott was a great worker, probably didn't get all the credit he deserved for how versatile he was. RIP.

[@wardengentles53]

Scott looked good here. RIP bad mang!

[@alanguages]

Missed opportunity for Hall vs Meng. Hey Meng! Take a look at the bad guy.

[@Jim-Tuner]

Bob Backlund would try to do wrestling spots with guys like Hall and Nash. Neither of them was interested. They wanted to do short punch-punch-kick matches. They fed Backlund to Nash. He wasn't happy. They fed Jarrett to Nash. He wasn't happy. They fed Bam Bam Bigalow to Nash. He wasn't happy. Then they stopped trying to do singles matches with Nash and put him (as world champion) into tag match main events where Shawn Michaels would do most of the work. Nash liked that better. The tried to go back to singles matches with Nash vs Sid. But he wasn't happy. Then it was back to tag matches with Shawn michaels involved again. That made Nash happy.

[@KINGMONKEY1989]

No wonder the company was tanking with Nash as champion. Dude couldn't wrestle his way out of a paper sleeping bag 😂

[@johncook9392]

@@KINGMONKEY1989 Nash really was good on the mic, but in the ring he was garbage. He was tall, that was it. It really wasn't that he was "big" like Vader, just tall... If he was better in the ring with more moves he really could have stood out, but that just wasn't the case

[@intothedeepstate7491]

What are you talking about? Nash has a huge upper body and WWF was his peak physique. I don't even like the guy, I think his best work was in the summer of '92 personally, but you are really stretching (ahem) the truth, good sir.

[@spockhozzer7207]

​@@johncook9392He was terrible on the mic too. Nash should've been let go from every company because his career was complete garbage

[@Guitarplayer724]

@@spockhozzer7207This is why you’re a KZbin commenter and not a booker. 😂

[@WrathOfRandman688]

I was there at the Baltimore arena at a house show called In High Gear, Dick Murdoch was there in Backlunds corner. The match wasnt quite bad from what i remember and i thought at the time that Dick Murdoch would be a permanent stay alongside Backlund, but he would never appear on television after that.

[@greenmountavenue4122]

Are you from Baltimore?

[@WrathOfRandman688]

@@greenmountavenue4122 in the Dundalk area yes.

[@grawakendream8980]

wow crazy. i didn't know about this at the time at all

[@JohnCarnell-pv8cp]

I was there at the Baltimore show as well.. I also remember The Smoking Gunns against Well Dunn for the Tag Titles and Bundy vs Bulldog.

[@s0129570]

This shows was a pro he was that he knew how to add flare to elevate his Backlund matches. That’s a cool finish.

[@TonyWaller-oy8ls]

R.I.P. Scott Hall 🙏🏆

[@karimsunderji9180]

Great story telling here

[@cappy2282]

When i was a kid. WWE came to my small town to film a Raw in highschool gym. Shawn and Razor had (dark) ladder match. I didn't really understand significance at time (i was like 10) but it was cool. 2) i forget who double J wrestled but i remember being extremely impressed with his match 3) My friends did a pic with Bret for Raw magazine cover, as well 👍

[@Darren-r8l]

Scott got smart about his wrestling knowledge.Scott Hall Razor Ramon was great and is missed.

[@alexmelendez6732]

Backlund was a pro amateur wrestler from the 70s. Bscklund had an excellent match with bret on raw he could def go with the likes of a bret , owen or shawn. Kevin Nash just sucked literally.

[@afdcg]

You didn't get the point. It was chemistry. Diesel could never have chemistry with Bob Backlund because he was old school. I would say Backlunds matches with Bret and Shawn were also boring. Diesel was an okay worker. He wasn't going to have 5 star matches.

[@grawakendream8980]

and matt doink borne

[@bulldogbrower6732]

He said that Backlund was old school, that’s what they call wrestling, not standing there punching each other all match then clothesline finish.

[@OHM.R1210]

He would be a huge asset backstage for any wrestling company if he were still here physically. RIP Scott Hall A true legend of the squared circle.

[@jamaali2358]

Scott Hall and backstage that don't work for me brother

[@jfayiii]

He delivers it so cool, you'd want to impress him by doing what he asked.

[@ModernDayRenaissanceMan]

I would love to know more about wrestling training trees. Because if you watch certain styles you will see certain influences. I always thought that Scott Hall threw a very similar punch to Stone Cold. You never know if that's something that they pick up just watching each other, or that something that has been passed down from generations. A lot of that stuff also has to do with how they ended up working a program at WrestleMania together. When you listen to the psychology during the shoot promos you can definitely hear Scott Hall selling to Steve Austin how they can go back and forth throwing punches and how well it's going to get over on the crowd.

[@Craigers8637]

Posted 46 mins ago, wish it was shot 46 mins ago 😢

[@79chevy901]

Halls seems to be down to earth.

[@heyyoohall]

Rip Scott Hall.

[@midwestmonster9886]

I feel like every booker should watch Hulk Hogan vs the Iron Sheik. Hogan dominated until he crashed and burned against a turnbuckle, then Sheik dominated the rest of the match until it was time for the heroic comeback. As long as you keep the match short (Hogan/Sheik was reportedly 5 minutes, 40 seconds), you can make two guys with conflicting styles work by having a complete 180 offensive turnaround. Diesel versus Backlund might have been a steal if you tried to sell a PPV off of it, but it could have been a decent Raw main event.

[@tonymoses3810]

Scott Hall was a special talent. Kevin Nash was just a big guy in the right place at the right time who played politics. But, Hall should have been the world champion and the main eventer. Hall respected the business and mastered his craft, respected the guys who paved the way, and was respected in turn universally. Hall was a great talent in ring, and he had natural charisma, and he worked to master his craft. I think he got caught up with the wrong people telling him the wrong things that were self-serving to the people telling him. But, why Hall was at the top of the mid-card and Nash was the main eventer will always be an irony to me because Nash was nothing special aside from being a huge guy and he did it the wrong way by knocking and trying to bury anyone viewed as a threat. 25 years later, he's mellowed and comes off humble on his podcast. But, think about it, why on Earth was Hall the test to pass to see if you could work with Kevin Nash when Hall was 1,000 times better in the ring than Nash. I don't see how promoters decided to go with Nash in the top slot either when Hall wasn't only better in the ring, but he had more charisma and also paid more dues and was more respectful to the business. All Nash had on Hall was a little size, and it's irrelevant because Hall was a big guy himself.

[@Sweeptheleg83]

I think with Hall, he had the same issue Jake the Snake had. Both phenomenal talents but you couldn't rely on them in those big spots like being world champion because they were unpredictable due to their personal demons. To be a world champion, especially in those days, they were investing alot in you. You were the face of the company and you had to be able to be there 24/7. Hell, Shawn had issues and you saw how that ended up during his runs as Champ. Hall was perfect as the IC champion/gatekeeper to the main event type guys cause it wasn't the top spot but it was still a spot he could shine in. Hall minus the drug issues probably is a world champion, I'll say that. Great talker, great worker, great look. He was definitely my favorite of all the Kliq guys.

[@Jorgedelaselva]

When he was sober he was one of the best workers ever .

[@thecardbunker801]

And even if he was sober. So what? He was still amazing. And alot of that was a work btw

[@MalamuteMan1]

​@@thecardbunker801congrats, you win dumb ass comment of the day 👍🎉👌

[@chucksenhowzen9740]

@@thecardbunker801go home you’re drunk

[@owenicus]

⁠@@chucksenhowzen9740I resemble that statement and I am home.

[@Gummybearporkchops]

He was one of the best workers ever not sober lol

[@jamesdavidson676]

R.I.P. Scott Hall.

[@jeffreygoss8109]

Nash was always known a big sexy the work rate killer. I’m surprised Scott didn’t have to carry him to the ring since he carried him in the ring and in interviews

[@CatsClaw44]

This makes sense because Cornette said that Murdoch was in the company but the fans didn't know because the WWF barely used him (some House Shows and the Royal Rumble).

[@grawakendream8980]

that explains why he was at the rumble. i don't get how the time line worked out though. i guess wwf flew him in from dallas where he was working at the time regularly

[@neilm2794]

Did Hall always look at everything strictly from a clique perspective? He kept really bad company in the business, between Nash, Waltman and Michaels. Those guys were blessed that both McMahon and Bischoff were easy to suck up to.

[@jeffreyyoders6366]

Amazing how intelligently guys like Scott and Jake the Snake could talk about the business and things they did in the ring and still have such demons.

[@rexgamewell]

Scott didnt take wrestling that serious like the marks and other wrestlers did.

[@thejubileesproject9101]

Razor was actually more intelligent than people gave him credit for.

[@TrillestLD]

One of the greatest minds in wrestling’s of all time. #RIPTheBADGUYRazorRamon! 🙏🏾 #TheresOnlyOneScottHall🕊️

[@ModernDayRenaissanceMan]

It's funny how they said that they would bury guys who couldn't work but they're best friend Nash got a pass. Nash was a tag team guy and was always paired with Hall or HBK. They had to hide him in so many factions over the years that he only drew money inside of a group. He should have been one of the guys that was buried.

[@maxv3208]

The new generation of wrestlers couldn't actually wrestle. That's why they didn't like working with Backlund. You really had to know what you were doing to look good with Backlund.

[@raidernation9920]

Rest In Peace Scott. One of the nicest guys I’ve ever had the pleasure of meeting

[@amirpourghoureiyan1637]

So that’s why Murdoch was there lol

[@michaelnugent9758]

I've wondered why he was there for like 30 years...😂

[@romans52345-cy3tq]

Would this been around the time he was in the 95 Rumble?

[@grawakendream8980]

when? was he

[@grawakendream8980]

@@michaelnugent9758 i don't see any evidence he was there outside of the rumble match. he was working in japan and puerto rico with random one shots here and there

[@JWS1985]

Yeah I don't remember Murdoch being there for anything other than the Rumble. He must have been around for some house shows starting in late '94.

[@straightpipec6099]

Backlund could beat them all.

[@thelionsdenwithdanielowens2423]

my childhood best friends dad worked at the bar scott hall was a bouncer at he came in one day we were like 8 and playing a wrestling video game he said i know who that guy is and goes and pulls a picture out with him standing next to hall they were from florida when they moved to wisconsin was awesome

[@miamimagicians]

Rip to one of the handsome guys to ever wrestle

[@Brody-cx5vl]

This guy could have been the best ever.

[@robzilla730]

Whatever happened to Outback Jack...??🤔

[@Jim-Tuner]

He couldn't wrestle. He was just no good. They let him work out his contract as a jobber in the WWE. Then he retired and went home to Australia.

[@robzilla730]

@@Jim-Tuner I remember they promo'd the hell out of him. Heard he was FOH(Friend Of Hulk)...

[@Jim-Tuner]

@@robzilla730 He started his career wrestling for Stu Hart in Calgary for about a month. Then the WWF signed him and promoted him as hard as they could. I think Hulk or someone saw his Australian gimmick and thought they could make money off it (toy and doll money). But they had never watched him wrestle. I don't know if it was Hulk Hogan or Vince Mcmahon or someone else. But someone made a big mistake. He had maybe wrestled 20 total matches before he got to the WWF. He just wasn't ready to be there.

[@robzilla730]

@Jim-Tuner lol. I specifically remember a match he had with Killer Khan. Khan spit that green stuff in his face. Pretty unimpressive start. Then next thing I know, he's a prelim-bum. Wonder whatever became of him...🤔

[@muffsstuff6914]

If I remember his theme song was terrible

[@bulldogbrower6732]

He criticizes Bob Backlund for his old school wrestling moves. He would have rather of thrown punches. Wow, this is what Vince allowed them to do to our wrestling.

[@vonsaltinator7602]

Vince's wrestling, y'all worked for whom? Lest ye forget.

[@thewhitepanther6052]

Its a shame he couldnt battle his demons. Should of been a world champion!

[@kevinhope8279]

Bob Backlund should have never gotten the belt from superstar

[@justmythoughts2786]

Bobby Backlund was the greatest wrestler to ever hit the business by a longshot not even close

[@Robert-nu4vc]

Backlund was the most boring wrestler ever. Zero charisma, too.

[@jaydubya3348]

I watched a Razor & Jerrett match live, Razor gave Jeff a fall away slam, when Jeff bounced off the mat with a roll & somehow went over the top rope to the outside...

[@ValiantWrestling]

"Jerrett" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@leeroyjenkins9992]

Rip,Scott I remember him and Shawn’s ladder match fuckn amazing

[@M-Myrtle-R]

RIP Scott Hall

[@beboc.8231]

Discuss punch his shout out to honor Kerry. Now they’re doing your stuff to honor you Bad Guy. 😢

[@mattjindrak]

Bill Buckland

[@PeterBrown-mz4nv]

I don't get it.

[@CrookedRosePOD]

He stopped cyz it was the summer of 92

[@hippa2dahoppa2]

I never saw bob in his glory yrs but watching him as a kid around razors era bob never fit in. We would laugh at him and thought he was one of the scrubs who always lose. He didnt have anything to offer against pop style superstars

[@msoi215]

#RIPScottHall

[@davej.meister5421]

Sheamus sucks. He didn't pay a single tribute to the man whose finisher he stole then renamed, when he passed.

[@edecanemane]

nWo 4 👉🏾

[@littletom1978]

Knowing way Vince thinks its obvious why chose Diesel, but even as a kid at the time, felt Razor should have gotten that run as champion. Better character,/performer, knew what to do, work with anyone, massive crowd support. Missed the boat, may have been diffrent on many levels if made that choice. Hall wasnt as messed up then, he was constant, good to great matches, on all the shows. He got the rub of working on screen with Macho Man, Flair, Heenan, Perfect, ted, all the last group of golden era to carry it on over to new generation. Anytime non fan would watch back then with me, theyd always say when saw Razor, that guy looks like how a man should if wrestled. Now when hear the mind he had for wrestling, just again, Vince really missed the ball with Razor Ramon in 95

[@nolongerblocked6210]

I liked Razor/Scott but Double JJ could go _well before_ he ever got to the WWF. Lawler worked with & helped train Jarrett in Tennessee... so Jarrett was a great worker before he ever stepped foot into the WWF

[@Grisna_25-]

Rip Scott hall

[@stripmin41]

Razors edge, top finisher

[@davej.meister5421]

Are you sure it's not called the Celtic Cross lol? Too bad we never heard Scott's opinion of Sheamus.

[@aaronmartinez7534]

Crazy that Scotts gone

[@davej.meister5421]

And the orange haired Irish man who stole Scott's finisher, then renamed it, still exists.

[@mikejejenich-pb5zx]

Hey 👋 yo. 🎤 🗣️

[@QuentinDude]

its-amazing-they-were-running-2-tours-with-a-average-roster....Diesel-vs-Backlund-is-a-weak-main-event

[@jfayiii]

This man should be running WWE. Such a missed opportunity.

[@grawakendream8980]

backlund and murdoch go back to st. louis in the mid 70s, i think. re-activation of the missouri heavyweight title

[@TheBaitShopGuy]

Diesel was afound 6'10 with little actual wrestling skills. Bob Backlund was a big amateur style wrestler like William Regal was. They made the match so xrappy like a gut kick and a powerbomb. Nash would have been exposed as a beginner wrestler in a long match.

[@ickbar]

'Pretty good punch' ? Scott had one of the best punches.

[@davidjones6470]

DAMN RIGHT 👊

[@bulldogbrower6732]

Sorry, throwing punches is not wrestling. This was the beginning of the era of clotheslines and the standing 10 punch in the corner.

[@kristophercaldwell2399]

Actually that was the hogan 80s Era it just got worse from there lol

[@stripmin41]

Miss the bad guy.

[@roborlando2277]

RIP Razor Scott Hall

[@Zippadeedoodaa-nt8om]

The stories are interesting, but there's no way I could watch wrestling anymore after all the secrets have been divulged. The "entertainment" part of wrestling is pointless and over played. Soap opera for males.

[@fourcampsreally9385]

Stand up straight when you are talking to me lol. Bob Backlund was just as entertaining just popping in later years as anyone at the time.

[@inthekingdom1996]

Hall would have made a great creative director. I HATED that guy as a kid. I grew up in S Miami with abunch of Scarface's 😂 anyhow, he has a great mind. Cool guy

[@brandonwenzel2844]

The Career of Bob Backland has to be one of the most bizarre in all of Pro Wrestling. How often does a company put the belt on a guy who no one has any confidence in? The guy didn't draw, no one really cared about his run, he left no impact as champion. As an in-ring performer, he's not even a footnote.

[@themindofmwill24]

That's bcuz his style of wrestling was Burno era. A true wrestling fan can appreciate his style. His matches with Bret Hart was solid. But he was very boring and strange 😂

[@tritchie6272]

Backlund was a Wrestler, when to many people didn't appreciate Wrestlers.Although I have enjoyed the few matches I've seen of Backlund.

[@amirpourghoureiyan1637]

Most of Backlund's reign was likely to keep the belt from going to Zbyszko. The McMahons hated Bruno but he was still their top draw, they.would've put the belt on him but not on one of his made guys.

[@tritchie6272]

@@amirpourghoureiyan1637 Seems like I've heard somewhere that VinceSr really liked Backlund and also liked the idea that Backlund had a legitimate Wrestling background. And Backlund has also said that he considered Vince Sr to be like a Father to him.

[@EvaSlayAllDay334]

Not 1994 Backlund. He was actually a great heel at that time.

[@christopherhowe5180]

Backlund was a good wrestler but not much of an entertainer unfortunately

[@therealanonymous12]

Did you ever see Mr.Bob Backlund

[@christopherhowe5180]

@therealanonyomous I don't doubt he was a good athlete but he wasn't marketable in later generations. Clearly he was a good mat wrestler but not a sports entertainer and I did see him on several occasions.

[@PeterBrown-mz4nv]

He was a great wrestler.

[@gumdeo]

HEY YO.

[@robthames5065]

Why did Backlund stop working with Nash? Cuz Nash would tear a quad if he tried to do more than 5 moves.

[@fmbbeachbum8163]

Backlund was the only babyface that I hated as a kid, back in 80-83. Just did'nt like anything about his gimmick.

[@stevejamieson8468]

What do you think about his gimmick that was so off putting to you? Back at the time, pro wrestling by and large was more about believability and treating it like a real sport. Bob being a D2 wrestling champion carried himself like the serious athlete he was and his interview style was much that way.

[@PeterBrown-mz4nv]

He wasn't a gimmick. He was the real deal.

[@everythingstrength1485]

Howwa bout....stop putting seasoned wrestlers with ego maniacs???

[@timjohnson943]

He was a Diamond Stud in the Rough in the ring

[@CJ-fu8cm]

Backlund always sucked

[@Wall2000x]

Not real punches. No contact.

[@Ryan-hl4ur]

There we have it jj has been around the biz his' "entire life" & STILL SUX! Double 0s!

[@terrygrady7683]

He can't stop picking his nose. Hard to watch.

[@nathanwanner..44]

Boring bob ... yawn

[@PeterBrown-mz4nv]

Not in the ring he wasn't.

[@mexmexican8619]

I always thought Scott wrestled like a smaller guy. Scott was deceptively massive.