That Time TCU Football Was ROBBED of the College Football Playoff (The 2014 Controversy)

There have been some college football playoff snubs over the years, but none are more notorious than the 2014 TCU Horned Frogs who were left out after going 12-1 and dominating almost every team they played. Today we will examine that team, the season and why they got left out. Enjoy!
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[@ScottFisherCFB]

What is another team I should take a look at?

[@downsouthhighlights]

2020 Kansas Jayhawks😤💪

[@doubledoink1273]

@@downsouthhighlights a real dominate team. I can’t believe they were snubbed from the playoffs

[@cvandy2252]

It's might be too soon but this years Cincinnati Bearcats are definitely gonna need a look back video for this season. Wish they would've pulled off the Georgia win, but they're still an awesome team that has an easy argument for being snubbed this year.

[@schoolyardsports]

2016 Michigan

[@ScottFisherCFB]

Totally agree

[@Riverweb]

The playoff teams all have one thing in common: large fan bases. ESPN wants to make their $$$. TCU is a small school. So is Baylor. They never had a chance.

[@danielwhitworth5852]

You have insulted me

[@Riverweb]

@@danielwhitworth5852 Huh????

[@Riverweb]

@Luke Coulter I hear ya. I'm a TCU alum, so it smarts. But there is no doubt in my mind that ESPN was highly influential in the decision, and it was based on viewership. It really takes the fun out of it, when the playoff algorithm becomes 1.) first and foremost the largest fan bases, then 2.) who also have good teams. They really need to do something to improve the CFB playoffs.

[@austinhowser7838]

@@Riverweb Baylor beat you.

[@Riverweb]

@@austinhowser7838 And Baylor lost to WVU, a lesser ranked team. So TCU had a "good loss," losing to a high ranked Baylor, and then Baylor had a 'bad loss" losing to a lower ranked WVU. When TCU ended the year, after the bowl games, we were ranked #3 in the nation by both AP and Coaches Polls. Baylor was ranked #7 and 8 respectively.

[@romeda5156]

The playoff is all about money not having the 4 best teams every year

[@bellzo5]

Blue bloods rule the land that's why they don't want Miami to re-emerge or my Clemson tigers to keep messing up their money

[@jakesullivan9179]

How would it affect the NCAA's money? A surge would generate a shit ton of money for the NCAA and the school. BCS busters and teams like Cincy are great it creates a lot of buzz and hype for the media. Clemson isn't a blue blood or a little sister of the poor they're a program with a great amount of success historically from the seventies similar to Auburn. As a buckeye fan I hate the term blue blood because it sort of means like we only have the past to reminisce about (cough cough Notre Dame, Texas, USC, Miami, Tennessee, Nebraska) in my eyes you're great, good, average, below average, and shitty. Objectively, that decision came down to who the committee had more confidence in.

[@DK_Smoke]

@@jakesullivan9179 your one of those Ohio St fans who just act like the team is the most dominant thing is MJ, shut tf up I’m an Ohio St. fan but fans like you are annoying asf🤦‍♂️. TCU got snubbed an that’s just facts Ohio St. may have beat them if they went hth but we don’t know that cause it never happened so please just stop.

[@DK_Smoke]

@@jakesullivan9179 Ohio st. Is gonna generate more revenue if they make it over TCU cause Ohio St is just a team that makes more money in general TCU isn’t a big market Ohio St. on the other hand is🤦‍♂️.

[@jakesullivan9179]

@@DK_Smoke So you call me an irritating asshole based off of one belief which I think is pretty damn rude. Scott said the two reasons why the committee wasn't as confident to put TCU in compared to Ohio State. They didn't have a Big 12 championship game and TCU lost to a playoff caliber team in Baylor. The game that sealed it for Ohio State was the big ten championship when they tar and feathered Wisconsin was the tone that they believed that they deserved to be in. Say what you want but TCU had control of their own destiny until they lost to Baylor.

[@dylannunez6678]

I’m a tcu fan and I didn’t think that we would be left out of the playoff I was stunned

[@ScottFisherCFB]

It was crazy man. So dumb

[@justinalley3399]

@@ScottFisherCFB osu would have destroyed tcu worse than oregon

[@JJ-nu8qi]

I remember that season and Tcu was clearly better but they didn't have the fan base or money that osu had. Just business

[@faizali2200]

Sry if we took the spot but we had better talent and would probaly smack TCU head to head

[@JJ-nu8qi]

@@faizali2200 Just like they smacked the unranked VT earlier that year?

[@ScottFisherCFB]

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[@orangeflaws8088]

Even though they weren’t really a championship game snub, I’d like to see a video about the 2010-11 TCU team that finished 2nd

[@ScottFisherCFB]

I think that would be cool!

[@brian2440]

@@ScottFisherCFB 2010 TCU was arguably snubbed even worse. 1. Back to back undefeated seasons 2. 3 Top 25 wins 3. A 40 point road win over #6 Utah 4. Averaged a 30.4 margin of victory per game 5. Ranked #5 in total offense 6. Ranked #1 in total defense This team proves that the G5 will NEVER EVER EVER make a championship, because honestly what on earth could you possibly expect more from a team to do.

[@robg8203]

@@brian2440they made it this year finally! But I totally agree. They should've took Oregon's spot, Oregon beat a 5-4 Cal team(ended 5-7) by 2 points towards the end of the season. That game should've put TCU over them without a doubt!

[@AlexYoon]

they need to expand playoff

[@andrewshnayderman3389]

I want a 16 team playoff

[@jarquavisbissletoeiii7158]

@@andrewshnayderman3389 or 8

[@markcole9859]

@@andrewshnayderman3389 why 16? That's way too much. 8 or 10 is good 5 conference winners and the next best 5

[@alexcuevas5633]

@@markcole9859 nah. They more teams the better. Gotta make the cfp like march madness, or even better, like the UCL. More teams = more upset opportunities

[@alexcuevas5633]

They have expanded the playoffs now. Up to 12 teams now

[@B3FMandCProductions]

Playoff in 2014: "Early season struggles are forgivable. Oh, and you need to win an outright conference title game to make the playoff. So that's why Ohio State got in over TCU and Baylor" Playoff in 2016: "Just because Penn State beat Ohio State head-to-head and won the Big Ten championship game doesn't mean they should get in. They struggled early in the season and we can't overlook that, even if they were dealing with a ton of injuries. Besides, Urban Meyer is our special boy and our contract with the Buckeyes doesn't expire for another year." You hit the nail on the head, it's all about branding. TCU and Baylor were both more deserving of making the playoff in 2014 than Ohio State, but the Buckeyes are a bigger brand. Same thing happened in 2016. Would love to see an 8 team playoff because that might rectify the issue, but even then, who knows?

[@CJ-vq8jw]

It’s not binary, early season struggles aren’t the same. Penn State had a 39 point loss to Michigan in addition to a loss to Pitt. Penn State is not far behind OSU from a branding perspective. The difference in 2014 was a 59 point win in an actual conference championship

[@brian2440]

@@CJ-vq8jw But Ohio State losing by 17 to 7-6 team is irrelevant???? Talk about double standard.... Never mind TCU had a 21 Point Top 10 win just three weeks prior. Never mind the fact that TCU blew out their last four opponents 178-63. In the same time Ohio State beat opponents 174-79.

[@CJ-vq8jw]

@@brian2440 I never said the loss to VT was irrelevant. I don’t think you understand double standards. 1 early season loss is not the same as 2 early season losses, especially when 1 of the 2 losses was by 39. Lol why did you even bother posting the score differentials after calculating them, the difference is marginal.

[@brian2440]

@@CJ-vq8jw Because your insinuating that with their game Agaimsy Wisconsin they dominated everyone they played more than TCU dominated who they played. Why does Ohio State get extra credit beating #12 Wisconsin by 59, but TCU gets nothing beating #7 Kansas State by 21?

[@CJ-vq8jw]

@@brian2440 No, I'm insinuating that their win over Wisconsin was more impressive than any other win. Who said TCU got nothing for beating KSU? That's a good win, just not as good. KSU lost to Auburn in a close game that year - UW beat Auburn in a close game. The difference in ranking is marginal and the actual quality of both teams is even closer, only 59 > 21.

[@wesch6354]

I was just talking about this one the other day. TCU and Baylor both played an impressive season and should have been given a shot at the playoffs. Sadly the B12 didn't have a conference championship and screwed both teams. But even if the B12 would have had a conference championship that year I have a feeling the B12 would have been left out. Baylor and TCU are both to small. Hell when I went to the B12 championship between OU and Baylor in 2019 the Baylor fans didn't even come close to filling up the bottom half of their side of the stadium. Where as OU fans took up nearly 3/4 of the place. But on their sideline there were a lot of empty seats. So I doubt a school like Baylor will ever be given a chance at the playoff until they make it a true playoff.

[@ericdouglas7933]

Can they relly be a snub if they were replaced by the national champion

[@daboi358rules8]

What he’s trying to say is maybe if Oklahoma had not got picked they could have been the champs

[@ScottFisherCFB]

We are talking about the actual selection day.

[@iceintheair]

@@ScottFisherCFB yeah man, I think it's just proper to play the conf title b4 the pwayawf... sarry

[@brian2440]

Yes. Also the decisions made for selection in 2017 completely contradict 2014

[@iceintheair]

@@brian2440 no.

[@DrBeauHightower]

😭😭😭

[@5WGolf]

I love you Scott fisher!!! Thank you so much this means the world that you chose my idea

[@ScottFisherCFB]

No problem man!!! Hope you enjoyed it!

[@theman1412]

4:19, TCU was definitely better than Florida State in 2014

[@timothytizon4711]

Nah FSU was a different breed those.2 yrs with Winston

[@crms00n6]

@@timothytizon4711 didn't they get shit on by Oregon?

[@lukepotters5971]

@@crms00n6 Yeah 😂 and then Ohio State shit on them.

[@udayanchidambaram5340]

@@lukepotters5971 so TCU shouldve been given the chance. They wouldve beated FSU for sure that team lost too much talent that year

[@lukepotters5971]

@@udayanchidambaram5340 I agree. They should’ve been 3rd in FL states place.

[@AbdiAarPodcast]

I went to TCU the year after and the feeling is mutual! We are gonna make it this year.

[@jonathanfrimerman8855]

You did they want a revange run after getting screwed in 2014

[@thomassankara1391]

Yall up 14-0 I don't care for college football, I just started watching the CFB Playoff, hope yall go all the way. Upsetting Michigan and Georgia would be crazy for the Sport.

[@jonathanfrimerman8855]

It would also be good after alk the times they were screwed

[@jonathanfrimerman8855]

@@thomassankara1391 21-3 If the Bengals turned a 4-11-1 season into a sb appearence than tcu can do the same from 5-7 and no bowl to title game and hope they win This tournaround needs the happiest ending

[@thomassankara1391]

@jonathanfrimerman8855 yeah they've played very good. I watched the Highlights of their game vs Kansas State and Max Duggan went crazy. I didn't realize there was a committee that chooses who does or doesn't go to the CFP. TCU was 12-1 I'm glad they put them in. I'm not shocked they're beating Michigan, I'm glad they're proving everyone wrong. I think TCU can win it all. Hopefully Ohio ST upsets Georgia cuz that would make it easier lol.

[@dylanburris9593]

Great video man! As a tcu student, i felt this pain watching as a fan...

[@cvandy2252]

Haha now that 2014 TCU dude can finally give you other new video ideas. Great suggestion and actual video though!

[@ScottFisherCFB]

Lmao. Yup, this will make his day!

[@PyroJoe9]

Argument became irrelevant when OSU won

[@bartholomew1608]

Now we're back on top. Thanks for the vid Scott

[@ActionJaxx]

TCU and Boise State will always have a special place in my heart just as a college football fan. Always love to see these teams win and always hope they do.

[@Mountaindwell4]

I always believed kellen moore Boise teams and Andy dalton tcu were the two absolute best teams in the country and nobody wanted to face them. The system was terrible to them. They were truly incredible. I’ll never forgive the bcs

[@randydubin7118]

I remember Mike Ditka on ESPN on Sunday NFL Countdown before the CFP Selection Special wore a TCU Superfrog head to support them. It was to support his former teammate Bob Lilly, a TCU alum, whom he also played against both in college and the NFL.

[@VictorFernandezBigdestroyer]

I remember this team when they weren’t be able to participate in the playoffs, I was surprised about it, but despite their snub, they have been an amazing team to watch, but usually I always forget about that season , since the next season had that game where the frogs made a massive comeback and won over Oregon in the Alamo bowl. That was a season to never forget for how the years ended for TCU.

[@orangeflaws8088]

They quite likely could’ve won the natty that year based off of all the good teams they beat, plus they beat Ole Miss (who had the best defense that year and beat Bane) by 39

[@ScottFisherCFB]

I totally agree!

[@orangeflaws8088]

*beat Bama

[@nickmurphy6753]

@@orangeflaws8088 we didn’t beat bama by 39. It was like a touchdown difference

[@orangeflaws8088]

@@nickmurphy6753 I said that TCU beat Ole Miss by 39 and that Ole Miss beat Bama

[@demetriusjackson3624]

TCU was very good that year. I was hoping they make it.

[@AnnaRuby23]

I’m a longtime TCU fan and recent graduate... I’m still hurt by this. Our 2014 season was amazing and so was the talent on our team. Went to every home game that year and was shocked yet thrilled at our Peach Bowl performance.

[@nateline5120]

It would be easy to say that they were a snub if OSU didn’t win the natty, but since OSU won were they really snubbed?

[@zirc_]

tcu would’ve been in over FSU.

[@Damianoutlaw]

Baylor was more deserving than TCU in 2014. Baylor and TCU had same record and Baylor beat TCU.

[@tylerhumpfer2493]

TCU lost at Baylor by a FG. Baylor lost to a 7-6 WVU by 14..

[@Damianoutlaw]

@@tylerhumpfer2493 using your own words...TCU LOST at Baylor. TCU would only have an argument if they had not played Baylor. If two teams are tied the universal tie breaker has always been head to head. That is why Baylor finished 5th in the Final CFP rankings, and TCU finished 6th. This video should be renamed to why Baylor got Robbed. Baylor's best win (TCU) was better than any win Ohio St had. They both had 14 point losses.

[@kev614]

@@Damianoutlaw 59-0 win against the #13 is better than a 3 point win against a number 6 team.

[@jeremiahgeiger]

Hey Scott, can you do a video on the 2013 Missouri Tigers? 2nd favorite team, and they were 1 win away from the natty!

[@ScottFisherCFB]

I would love to! I’ve had that on my list for a long tome

[@kieran9261]

Please do an isu doc (since campbell). As an isu fan weve had some talent and some big wins but i love watching these teams no matter their record. Love seeing them play every single year.

[@blakelarsen3743]

As an ok state fan, I have a respectful dislike for y’all (especially in basketball). Y’all always give us fits even in down years

[@liamsaucy9999]

how were they robbed when the team above them won the natty

[@settingsun3470]

That's crazy, in the first year of the CFP, it was clear that it needed to be bigger.

[@k-hustlethesportspreacher5941]

Great video! Just because Ohio State won that year doesn't mean TCU wasn't the better team. The eye test and competition favored TCU over Ohio State big time. The Committee flat out made that decision about money and Ohio State reaped the benefit again in 2020.

[@thespot5722]

VT defense that year was ranked top ten

[@Patrick-sb2sb]

TCU got screwed in 2010 . They were the best team in the country. They got screwed again in 2014 by not being invited to the playoffs.

[@nathanstroud2223]

Leaving both TCU and Baylor out in 2014 because of the Big 12 not having a conference championship game should've set a precedent that decisions made by the conferences can affect the eligibility of teams within those conferences. Moreover, teams that have not reached 10 wins by the time of bowl selection should not be up for playoff consideration. I think you see where I'm going with this.

[@JJ-nu8qi]

Funny they didn't care about Osu playing one this year.

[@brian2440]

Yet interestingly 2014 seems to be the only year in which winning your conference actually mattered.... How convenient

[@trevthegoat12]

Hey can you do the rides Army football what do a video on the rise of Jeff Monken

[@ScottFisherCFB]

That could be really cool!

[@GPrice-mg8mi]

We don’t talk about this team enough! One of the all time greats!

[@troydixson1394]

I rem that great hf team I was really into the collegiate game that year there was no was no to justiphy that period u can't say osu won the right decision was made u know how hard it is to win at that formatted damn near impossible that's where words come into play a good coach got to know to mesh all that together the college game is all momentum not just for that 1 game but for a season that's why the good ones say they get more outta see there recruit successful in life than the on gridiron cause the good schools and parents in the future will use that as a criteria when considering the as a leader to mold there children in nephew or whoever those days need to comeback to the game and also give those coaches like Gary Patterson more of a spotlight in the collegate game

[@dplw11]

Those TCU uni's @ 6:34 are FIRE!!!!!!

[@mitchellmillimaki01]

The four best team that year were “OSU, Oregon, Bama, and TCU” but you can’t leave an undefeated team out though. That’s just hindsight though 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@mikerivera373]

As a Fort Worth resident, I was livid when TCU got dropped from 3 to 6. After beating Iowa State by 50. Worse yet, they got dropped for a brand name. In the years since then, the CFP has always used the “eye test” to favor the brand names, yet when TCU would have passed that, they got snubbed. Total bs

[@mikerivera373]

@John Cena it’s not that neither of those teams didn’t pass the eye test (quite frankly, that year showed me that four teams was too few), the problem is that TCU got dropped even though they had done everything you could have asked of them

[@nathanosborne3834]

I mean Ohio state did win the natty sooo

[@coltonwoodward4121]

ik why they mad

[@dennisograves]

Great videos, but I wish you posted the stats in the videos instead of just saying them.

[@braedenroberts3505]

The college football is all about the big brands I think it is mostly political

[@andrewdaniel459]

it’s abt big brands bc they’re the best teams lol

[@chrisg4305]

@@andrewdaniel459 -laughs in notre dame-

[@suuwooski6416]

@@andrewdaniel459 you probably listen to all the espn shot

[@brian2440]

@@andrewdaniel459 Tell me if this is a championship caliber team: X Team - Back to Back undefeated seasons - 4 Top 25 wins, 2 Top 10 wins - Beat #6 by 40 on the road - Beat B10 champion - #5 total offense - #1 total defense - 30.4 margin of victory per game

[@andrewdaniel459]

@@brian2440 what conference do they play in

[@savagecabbage138]

i missed 2014 when baylor and tcu were in playoff contention. When was the last time we saw a mid-low power 5 team in playoff contention? Washington?

[@joshbaldridge3172]

Wait you think they should have been in instead of the team that won the natty? Am I missing something??

[@xitzkakashi2k881]

Crazy how right you were and now they are finally getting the respect they deserve this year! As an okstate fan they have my full support to show the world the big 12 is still here! Go frogs!

[@moonblast12]

Nice video, just one thing: you don’t have to say a player took a pick six to the house. If it’s a pick six then it’s already understood it went to the house.

[@braedenroberts3505]

That Baylor TCU game was one of the first ever games I watched

[@peterkeigwin847]

Lol lots of fireworks

[@Supermanfan99]

I was excited they finally got a playoff...then immediately lost interest after TCU got snubbed. The FCS is way more exciting to watch. I love their playoffs.

[@LuCrewYT]

2017 Wisconsin Badgers were 12-0 going into the Big Ten Championship Game and lost and got left out.

[@zigghiggs]

For that lone season I was a HUGE horned frog fan

[@jayypimpinofficial7262]

2016 penn state. They won the big 10(usually a playoff bid) and beat ohio state who got in, but ohio state got blown out in thd playoff.

[@daboi358rules8]

Good idea

[@ScottFisherCFB]

Great idea! That could be my next one

[@danielwest9955]

That was only ‘cause the division system is stupid. OST has fewer total losses but lost their one game to PSU, so a 2 loss team got to the title game over then.

[@lordrayden3045]

@@danielwest9955 Then don’t have conferences If you can’t be the best team in your conference, you have no business trying to be the best team in the country

[@danielwest9955]

@@lordrayden3045 The structure does need some reworking. Since it’s only based on in-conference games, a 4 loss team (with three out of conference losses) could knock out a 1 loss team for a spot in a Conference Championship game.

[@poopmgee100]

TCU is always very interesting. Scheme, talent, random underdog wins. Even in the recent down years. There must be a player personnel issue and culture issue that just doesn’t allow them to completely connect the dots.

[@KWCline91]

Both Baylor and TCU got screwed by the Big XII because the Big XII went away from the concept on one true champion when Baylor defeated TCU in a head to head matchup. Ohio State deserved to be there.

[@ericsteinmetz7846]

I mean Ohio St. shut out wisconsin in the conference championship. but yes if they had got to play a Big 12 Conference Championship they probably wouldve made it in. and then got destroyed by alabama

[@johndickey8056]

The thing that never gets talked about is that FSU didn't belong in the playoff. They were undefeated in the regular season but they were in a lot of close games with lesser ACC teams down the stretch, not exactly passing the eye-test. IMO they got a guaranteed spot from the committee because they were a defending national champion. They of course got completely destroyed by Oregon who subsequently got completely destroyed by OSU. In short FSU was who really should have been left out.

[@octowaffles2058]

I don’t like revisiting that 2014 B1G championship game, from Gary Andersen abandoning Wisconsin practically right before the game to the eventual result of 59-0.

[@Mountaindwell4]

Will never forget how incredible Boise State and TCU were back from 2008-2011. The Kellen Moore Boise teams and Andy Dalton tcu squads were forces!!… bcs treated them terribly. The only teams that could beat Boise and tcu back then were Boise and tcu. Such a shame they got left out of so many major games

[@kennethpoole9262]

This was a fun team to watch. I was really surprised when they were left out.

[@dnoxon59]

BJ Catalon was the starting RB going into the season. Green didn’t become the starter until Catalon was injured against West Virginia.

[@ScottFisherCFB]

Ahhh

[@jeremiahrios4096]

It would’ve been cool to see TCU in the playoffs. They really should expand the playoffs. This was a BIG SNUB.

[@DevinCastellanos.]

It took 8 years but no need to worry about being snubbed again. TCU is going to the natty baby

[@murph1329]

and they showed the nation that they shouldn't have been there

[@Symphoniics]

@@murph1329They had the resume to prove it and they beat Michigan. Based on all indicators, they earned that spot. Go kick rocks

[@itsburgan497]

I went to every home game that season. We should’ve been in the playoff fr

[@jackdaddyslim3895]

As a TCU alumni and A student during the time in question.. it was Heart breaking and Leaves a BAD taste in my mouth to this day yet what makes it A little easier to swallow is the fact OSU went on to win it all. It didn't help that The Big 12 Decided against a conference championship game if TCU would have won a Confrence championship TCU would have Made it in

[@dylanmiller2858]

Man I was so upset that year as a tcu fan and my dad playing for that program in the 80s. That wouldn't have been their first title if they won it all though. They have two I believe from the 30s.

[@saintsplays9214]

Should've been 1. Bama 2. Oregon 3. Osu 4. TCU

[@kp1888]

You should do a Army video

[@justinkeck1132]

I can't believe how many people are still hurt by this.

[@fran1514]

Man TCU was just different back then. I remember that decision

[@JLT071986]

There was only two situations that screwed TCU..... 1.Big 12 Commissioner: Bob Bowlsby promoting a 10 team format (while still calling themselves "The Big 12") and claiming the "One true champion" because everyone plays each other. Then go against that and think they were being slick by claiming TCU & Baylor as Co-Champions to the Committee (That decision made it more convenient to go with Ohio St).... 2.The loss to Baylor put both teams at 8-1 and with Baylor with the "head to head" W made Baylor the outright Big 12 Champion not a Co-Champion like it or not, Ohio St deserved to be there but, yeah TCU and that Baylor team were probably just as deserving.

[@75Froggie]

I am a lifelong Frog fan and, of course, agree the Frogs were screwed by the Prom Queen Nomination Committee. Here's the opening of the ESPN recap of the Peach Bowl win: "Gary Patterson knew just what to say when asked if TCU's rout of Mississippi was a statement the Horned Frogs should have been in the four-team playoff. " 'I don't think I have to say anything,' Patterson said. "No need. The Horned Frogs said it all on the field." www.espn.com/college-football/recap?gameId=400610182

[@OsmosisJones93]

The best part about that season was when Boykin shook 2-3 defenders and then the WV coach gave him dabs on the play. THAY PLAY ALONE PUT THEM ON THE MAP! Not the conversation about whether they should have been or not. Lastly, I'm a CO fan but TCU is one of my favorite teams to watch (aside from their best colorway in all of cfb). This video is accurate as hell just missing some key points but YES the committee needs to get a heat check and they need to expand to 8 teams minimum!

[@kaila6460]

I started liking TCU the year they got left out, but I can't say they got robbed too badly that year, as they lost to Boise st. Think it was 6 to 7 final score

[@joshntn37111]

I think that UCF being snubbed is worse than TCU in 2018 considering they were 25-0 being undefeated for two whole seasons while beating Auburn in bowl game.

[@mikerivera373]

UCF were playing a bunch of nobodies. TCU was murdering ranked teams. Their snub was worse.

[@Skipatronic]

@@mikerivera373 so I guess beating Auburn who beat both Georgia and Bama are nobodies.

[@mikerivera373]

@@Skipatronic I meant during the regular season. Obviously bowl victories aren’t gonna factor into deciding the rankings, which are determined at the end of the regular season. And even so, there’s a difference between playing one ranked team and a bunch of weak teams verses playing in a stronger conference with multiple ranked teams

[@joshntn37111]

@@mikerivera373 TCU had their chance and blew it by losing. If they wouldn't have lost they would have been in. UCF on the other hand goes 13-0 in 2017 and then 12-0 in 2018 and still didn't make it. How many years has TCU gone undefeated??

[@mikerivera373]

@@joshntn37111 would TCU have gone undefeated if they were playing in the American Athletic Conference in 2014? Considering they only barely lost to #5 Baylor, I think any reasonable person could say that yes, they would have. I realize that UCF did everything they could have, but being in a mid-major conference verses being in a power 5 conference makes all the difference in the world. If you think I'm not being fair, look at the record when mid-major teams play power 5 teams. UCF beating all of those teams is not as impressive as TCU going 11-1 in the Big 12 (especially in 2014 when like half the conference was ranked)

[@sergoldenhandthejust1495]

Did you really bring up Andy Dalton and not L.T???????????

[@spikeobama5572]

I honestly think Wisconsin threw the Big 10 championship game so that Ohio State could make it in over a non-Big 10 team

[@spikeobama5572]

@John Cena there were some people on espn at the time that thought the Badgers could have made the playoff if they blew out the Buckeyes lol

[@texasfight210]

Baylor was the true Big 12 Champ that year by beating this TCU team. Baylor got robbed by the Big 12 not having a pair to crown them as true Champions, not TCU.

[@jakehodges4602]

We was so good back then

[@adamduncan8822]

ohio state won 59-0 in the big tenchamps with a thrid string qb. i think that says thats a reason they got in.

[@shruglife1594]

Unfortunately the first year of the playoff conference championships mattered an the big 12 did not have one. So yes should they have been in yeah maybe but the big 12 screwed TCU out of the playoff. By not having one.

[@UserName-ts3sp]

the fact they split the conference title with baylor kept em out. but the better team got in anyways, and won the title

[@krum9250]

Do Cincy, Liberty or Coastal Carolina. Theres also UCF and App St

[@kylebowes4294]

Ohio State won the National Championship though...

[@armandovallejr1576]

If Ohio state had 1 and doned I’d listen to more tcu arguments but the team that jumped them won it all

[@matthewhaselhorst1778]

And TCU never got the chance to do the same thing. Blew out Ole Miss So that proves they could’ve done it

[@armandovallejr1576]

@@matthewhaselhorst1778 ole miss and Alabama are two different programs lmao

[@matthewhaselhorst1778]

@@armandovallejr1576 yes they are genius. Ole Miss BEAT BAMA in 2014. 😉

[@armandovallejr1576]

@@matthewhaselhorst1778 ironic you have the kstate logo But let’s continue with that logic So didn’t Baylor deserve to be in over tcu ? I mean they did beat them that year right ?

[@anthonywilson3458]

I do agree that the committee is biased towards the bigger brands. But I do think the playoff should stay at 4 teams tho

[@bubbajo9089]

One player that im lookinh forward to at TCU in the next few years...alexander honig

[@n-wordheelflips2648]

they need a tournament similar to ncaa basketball

[@danielwest9955]

Everyone forgets the real story of this season: Florida State had no business being in the top 4. They somehow just never lost so the committee was forced to put them in at #3. It should’ve been Bama, Oregon, Big12 winner, Ohio State. But these fools in Tallahassee didn’t drop a game like they should’ve at least 3 times. The committee couldn’t snub an undefeated Power 5 champion because they looked bad doing it every week. So they really took Baylor/TCU’s spot. They finally got exposed in the Rose Bowl though.

[@vinsonmccants1128]

FSU did get exposed, and in a cruel sense of irony, it birthed one of the internet's most hilarious memes.

[@danielwest9955]

@@vinsonmccants1128 Which meme was that?

[@vinsonmccants1128]

@@danielwest9955 The Jamies Winston Fumble meme. Multiple memes and gifs about his fumble during the Rose Bowl. Winston, by his own acts, became a walking meme factory while at FSU. Not knocking the kid, he did well as an athlete in college, but the memes were abundant.

[@danielwest9955]

@@vinsonmccants1128 Ah! Yes! So much has happened in the meme world since 2014. I remember it now. Folks had some fun with the fumble.

[@mitchanderson55]

2015 iowa

[@teamJPCx3]

The main problem was that the big12 at the time Did not have a championship game which clearly hurt

[@user-es1vk1qk2c]

It’s truly a shame that the CFP are so skewed and refuse to give smaller teams a shot Sometimes it’s just a magical year but college doesn’t allow that

[@daboi358rules8]

Go frogs 🐸

[@ScottFisherCFB]

I want TCU to be good again

[@daboi358rules8]

Wow you replied thanks 😃 also yeah

[@cianbrady0721]

i wish TCU was in that playoff as much as the next guy but ohio state were big 10 champions and they beat a top 15 wisconsin in historically dominant fashion. florida state was the clear odd one out but they “deserved” to be in

[@michaelgraham628]

I can't consider them a snub if the team that got in over them won it all.

[@blakelarsen3743]

Or you could argue that this makes it a larger snub...

[@alejandrohernandez8273]

As an Ohio State fan I remember TCU fondly and wish that it didn’t have to come down to that. I 100% agree that if they had a title game they would’ve been in. #6 and #5 ranked matchup would’ve gave us the 4th seed. TCU has the better resume but then again Baylor beat that TCU team. There was a debacle there and they could’ve put Baylor ahead too. I don’t think either of them would have stood a chance to Alabama or Oregon but that’s me.

[@brian2440]

What I’d like to know is why 2014 is the ONLY year college football playoff history where winning your conference was considered necessary. It’s incredibly convenient that this was a major criteria only for this year. If it was always that big of a deal wtf happened in 2016, or 2017, or 2018 or 2020. Bizzare and incredibly sketchy

[@willaflag1959]

Tcu when they had Boykins was a go ⚡️🚦

[@derrickjohn411]

I’ll preface with TCU was a great team that year....however, of the 4 teams that did make the playoff that year, who’s spot should TCU have taken? Ohio State won the title ( pretty resoundingly I may add). Also, Ohio State went undefeated in conference. Florida State had won like 24 games in a row or something close to that number. And Oregon and Alabama were clearly 2 of the Top 4 teams.

[@brian2440]

What is the criteria for selection

[@cosmicre4per40]

Wisconsin was actually favored and OSU won by 59... TCU also only beat Kansas by like 5 points, In my opinion that's why they were left out

[@SLUSHIE1ST]

Hands down tcu should have made it to the playoff. What they did in the peach bowl to no9 ole miss shows they were a very serious team. They could have maybe even won the very first cfp!

[@bobwallace9814]

2014 seems so long ago. Patterson has allowed the team to regress since then and has the gall to to take offense if pointed out. They've gone from national contender and weekly NCAA tv features to can't make a bowl. They had the blueprint for success and replaced it with complacency. If Patterson had retired 3 years ago and this was the program of his successor, this guy would have been fired.

[@andrewwilliams7643]

TCU would have won it all had they not got robbed that year!

[@Ryan-ci6es]

They would’ve got blown out by bama

[@mcsumrall]

Look, I'll get hate for this as a Baylor student, but Baylor and TCU were both robbed by the Big 12 with no championship and crowning co-champions. On top of that, Baylor came back against TCU with unanswered points and won, as mentioned. If we had a championship, it would have been interesting to watch and one of us would have made it. We'll never know who would've won it, but hopefully the future of the Big 12 will allow this one day.

[@brian2440]

I’m more willing to say Baylor got robbed, give that the worst snubbing TCU ever recieved was in 2010 and it’s not even close. That season makes 2014 look like a fairytale. I mean 2014 TCU got dropped for losing by 3 to #6. In 2010 TCU got dropped in the ranked after beating #6 Utah 47-7.

[@jonathanfrimerman8855]

2023 Florida state and 2014 tcu are the same team

[@bretc9644]

BIG12 Conference holds just as much responsibility. They refused to declare a conference champion (either Baylor or TCU). Thus helping to give the selection committee an easy out, by saying they were selecting a true conference champion. In Ohio State's defense, they did show up to play. I think the real pretender in that final four was FSU.