My Thoughts on Retro Gaming These Days

[@JJKoester]

Thesis: There's nothing left to say about these games Runtime: 23 minutes

[@jakek5417]

😂

[@JonnyFlash80]

What a rant. Yikes.

[@JustJulyo]

This guy's physical Nintendo Switch Online is wild!

[@NotScared]

Bro got the blue comment

[@Fix3rJ0e]

As a guy that grew up with the NES, I will never shame anyone for using saves states or rewind features. I use them myself when I play old games because I don't have 12 hours a day to play games like I used to. I have a job.

[@greenmachine5487]

I have a retro handheld I keep at work and play old games when I have a few minutes to spare. Save states are a must. I recently beat Castlevania 3 and am now working on Legend of Lagaia for PS1. Save states make it fit my lifestyle so nicely.

[@leeartlee915]

As someone who also grew up with the NES, some of those games were almost designed to be played with save states. Seriously, some retro games are just straight up unfair.

[@leeartlee915]

@@1fightdragons I’m not being literal….

[@leeartlee915]

@@1fightdragons Except the unfair thing. They literally can be unfair.

[@tiredhippo82]

I love the switch on lines remind features. Many old games were a little unfair and game design hadn’t been refined enough to stop wasting people’s time.

[@batmanbud2]

Im convinced Rare Replay on Xbox One was a complete miracle. One of the best retro collections of all time, easily.

[@panikk2]

it's a shame we can't get it on pc. it's the only xbox exclusive in the past decade i've given a shit about

[@mgshock]

Getting those Rare N64 games in sharp HD was just awesome.

[@pikachu896]

​@@panikk2Just emulate the games. You'll even have a better experience than on Rare Replay.

[@70smebbin]

Id rather not play rare replay than buy another xbox

[@ScottishWhisper90]

​@panikk2 it's on Gamepass now, can you not play it that way on PC?

[@RobertBrocchini]

Tbh this topic could probably work as a whole Scott the woz video, not just a Scott’s stash rambler

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

Sure, but he'd be kinda playing a character in that.

[@RobertBrocchini]

@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZepI mean he was able to talk about personal stuff in childhood game collection while playing a character so idk

[@2006Mercury]

Let him breath

[@emichaelk5486]

most of his stash videos could be, theyre just easier than full scott the woz episodes

[@LOSERLUCAS]

what a weird comment

[@Ronboy-20]

Scott's childhood fascination for older media is a lot like how I was obsessed with classic cartoons or 90s Nicktoons. The only problem was that no other kids my age knew what the heck CatDog was.

[@Wilson-obrien]

I love catdog

[@Hi-visShirt]

CatDog, man. The good ole days.

[@Demokirby]

So you were alone in the world with a little catdog?

[@larkohiya]

You were alone in the world, with a little catdog.

[@iwantmyvanback]

One fine day with a woof and a purr A baby was born and it caused a little stir No blue buzzard, no three-eyed frog Just a feline canine little CatDog

[@The1SunshineFeeler]

I haven’t really gotten tired of retro gaming simply because there’s so many obscure gems left to discover and that will always give me a reason to keep caring as it always keeps the convo fresh :)

[@Change51]

hey TSF!

[@ssjbargainsale]

And there's always new fan translations coming out too. There are so many games and systems to " discover"

[@sc3ku]

@@ssjbargainsaleyes, I just discovered some of the Japan-only SNES RPGs with translations and mods, and it has stoked my enthusiasm for the console again!

[@ssjbargainsale]

@@sc3ku There so many good ones that came out since I last got into it. Like, so many. Its great!

[@Gungho73]

Yeah I just got my friend into a couple PS1 titles he missed. The console wars haven't really provided much to us this generation worth playing that doesn't end up going to PC as well, so its the perfect time to go back and check out those older obscure gems we missed. I have an old coworker who still buys himself a new ps2 game a month because he said there's just too much to not keep playing the system. I respected the hell out of that.

[@stripes9386]

Scott growing up on AVGN is the least surprising thing anyone has ever told me

[@no_nameyouknow]

The wonderful thing is myself, and probably many others, first saw Scott on an AVGN episode. It was a bit of a torch passing moment in my eyes.

[@PrincipalButtsavage]

Yeeeaaah, mhmm, mhmm, yeeeaaah

[@lanceknightmare]

@@stripes9386 Me and the Angry Video Game Nerd literally joined KZbin months apart. So I have seen him on KZbin since year 1 of his channel.

[@AndrewPRoberts]

Our generation is nostalgic for early 2000s now. We should be seeing more Wii/GameCube era retro stuff, because that was 20 years ago at this point.

[@inceptional]

You usually have to wait around 30 years for that what is old is also now cool again cycle to happen, so you have a while to go yet I'd say if you're waiting for Wii/GameCube era stuff to be the next big talking point. I think we're now just in the middle of the SNES/Genesis/PCEngine/NeoGeo nostalgia era and slowly crossing over into the Saturn/PS1/N64 era right now. At least that's my take on it.

[@Looneyboy]

@@inceptionalgood take honestly

[@GT2OOO]

@@inceptional SNES/Genesis nostalgia is already going out the door. PS1/N64 nostalgia is in full swing right now and even then, PS2/GCN is already settling in. I think the "rule" is 20 years more or less. I take as an example, the first season of AVGN was made in 2004. That's roughly 20 years after Super Mario Bros. released. That era was PEAK NES nostalgia

[@inceptional]

@@GT2OOO I think we're still in the crossover point, as I still see more popularity for the 16-bit and even 8-bit systems in the retro scene than the likes of PS1 and N64 (discussion in online forums, new retro-style indie development, general coverage, etc). But it's coming.

[@tonydelamancha5513]

have you seen the price of gamecube games

[@RefreshingMirage]

I’ve been thinking of buying retro games lately, problem is LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE GAME I WANT TO BUY AND PLAY IS EXPENSIVE AS ALL HELL

[@powerfulech0356]

Get a flash cart. Expensive up front, but you can play everything

[@murderman8578]

Emulate

[@SpinDlsc]

@@powerfulech0356 This is the option I've been going with. I still have physical copies of some games, but I try not to buy anything that's more than $50 on eBay. Plus I'm not looking to get more than 20 games for each retro system that I have, so flash carts are a great way to still experience other games on their original hardware. Plus, they're more convenient than swapping out your cartridge every time.

[@vermin4023]

I hope you're not nostalgic for Pokemon!

[@Fighter_Builder]

​@@powerfulech0356 This. I'd rather empty my wallet once and get a nice flashcart or ODE than empty my wallet every single time I want to buy a mildly noteworthy retro game. Original hardware and games are nice, but with prices going up, there's a point where it stops being worth it and we're well past that point IMO.

[@justapickedminfan]

Sometimes I forget that Scott actually plays video games and doesn't just collect them

[@TheAustinDelgado]

I’ll never be tired of the OGs. I don’t consider it “retro gaming” or “nostalgia,” just games that I enjoy

[@kuhpunkt]

How can you enjoy old games? They are so old!

[@TheAustinDelgado]

@@kuhpunkt bc they fun!

[@kuhpunkt]

@@TheAustinDelgado That's impossible!

[@TheAustinDelgado]

@@kuhpunkt it’s true all the science supports it and yet somehow it’s still fun! It defies alL LOGIC!!!

[@kuhpunkt]

@@TheAustinDelgado That's crazy!

[@rabbitenjoyer6320]

This is my favorite Scott's Stash video. Deftly touches on how the march of time influences and twists nostalgia. Would love a Scott the Woz video on this topic

[@ApolloDawn85]

As a teen I was really into collecting old PS2, GameCube, and Wii games, some nostalgic, some games I just missed as a kid. What sucks now is that buying retro games just for fun just isn’t financially viable. I just emulate games these days which is cool to have everything available at my fingertips but it sucks because I truly do enjoy the physical aspect of collecting and playing retro games.

[@Yixdy]

Should be titled "Scott realizes he's getting old" (Same, tho, pretty sure we're the exact same age)

[@rony_rst]

Yeah. It pretty much sounded like it. He seems just kinda tired of these themes

[@TheAustinDelgado]

anyone in their 20s aint old lol

[@JackStavris]

@@TheAustinDelgadoidk man, the minute you start making noises when you sit down or crouch, or that your joints start hurting after longer play sessions with a controller that’s when you realise you’re getting old. That’s been my life for the last few years and I’m not even 30 yet.

[@TheAustinDelgado]

@@JackStavris old is as old does. I'm in my 30s and I don't feel that way at all. I think the minute you start thinking you're old, you're old. That being said, anyone in their 20s ain't old by even a philosophical standard.

[@JackStavris]

@@TheAustinDelgado guess I’ve always felt old, I hated being a kid and always wanted to be older so people would treat me with dignity. I never related to many of my peers growing up tbh, always was friends with people older than me, even to this day I can count the friends I have that are younger than me on one hand.

[@little_finger]

I noticed that nowadays, people aren't as interested in retro games involving sprites as much as before. Now it's the poly aesthetic that's hot now.

[@inceptional]

That's not really true outside of very niche circles imo. Right now we have the mainstream modern gaming era as the big thing of our time obviously, with VR as the glimpse into the future, and most people playing a bunch of either the most cutting edge 3D games or more indie retro pixel art games on their modern systems to tap into some old school retro style gaming. That first generation of polygon stuff is still very niche, and I expect it always will be and will get largely skipped over and people will just jump to the likes of Xbox/PS2/GC in terms of indie/homebrew devs getting into the new retro trends in the near future, simply because it just doesn't hold up as well a great 2D pixel art games. It's kinda like the original The Lion King vs the original Toy Story, where The Lion King just holds up much better because the art style and aesthetic is more timeless and the technology behind it ages far better. 2D pixel art is basically now a legit art from in and of itself imo, like water colour, oil points, sculpture, etc, whereas those old polygon games just look like outdated technology from a time there's literally no need to go back to when our modern polygon games do absolutely everything better. They have no art form status and likely never will. Although, very clean flat-shaded polygons in high resolution can look like some sculpture or whatever, so maybe that will become its own little thing in the future. That's my take anyway.

[@abnorth2276]

@@inceptionalI agree and disagree. I think 3d games are just as ”artful” as 2d sprite games because there are also many sprite games that doesn’t look very good. To me 2d sprite based games have kind of run its course for now (in terms of pixel graphics). One example of a “low-poly” game as of lately would be Lethal Company which got pretty popular so.

[@inceptional]

@@abnorth2276 Yeah, there will always be examples for all kinds. I'm more just saying that pixel art is actually a real style of art you can basically select when making a game these days that's just like choosing standard modern cutting-edge textured 3D, stereoscopic 3D in VR (which often actually uses simple shaded polygons), toon shaded, painterly, "Flash" style, etc, where's that old low-res pixelated or blurry 3D from the early Saturn/PS1/N64 era is just the modern textured 3D basically done "badly" as such. So, realistically, I think the majority of modern both AAA and indie/homebrew developers will go with either the cutting edge 3D or the much simpler and old-school 2D pixel art or even the more "Flash" style art for the most part. And I think that old lets say PS1 3D look will always be extremely niche, because typically the only reason for using that version of early 3D is for nostalgia and nothing else. Pixel art is very different, because it's now both retro cool and ideal for smaller indie/homebrew developers at the same time. Pixel art is not just about making old looking games, but about making new games in a practical way for smaller developers with a visual aesthetic that's actually quite timeless in the same way cubism is timeless. I mean, ain't [pretty much] no one seriously making Saturn/PS1/N64 pixelated/blurred 3D looking art for the sake of art itself that isn't connected to making some retro 3D game in that style, whereas many actual artists today regularly make art that is quite literally pixel art that isn't used remotely in a game context. Almost no one outside of some hardcore early 3D retro gamers looking for a nostalgia trip would seriously buy a framed picture of some Saturn/PS1/N64 pixelated/blurry early 3D art for their wall, but I guarantee a lot of people would buy some framed picture that is literally just pixel art at the end of the day to put up on their wall as an actual piece of legit art like some abstract artwork or whatever. So, hopefully that make sense.

[@abnorth2276]

@@inceptional Interesting, I think you are right in a way, that 2d is “easier” to produce with a sense of quality compared to 3d. But at the same time I feel that the opposite is true for games like Rayman Legends which is a 2d game with “2d-ish” sprites (one of my favorite platformers). What I mean is that Rayman is not going for a very simplistic art style. And yet it resonates with a lot of people, maybe even more than some pixel-based 2d platformers. Though obviously it’s more labour intensive compared to something like i don’t know maybe Super Meat Boy.

[@inceptional]

@@abnorth2276 Well, I certainly agree that the original Rayman art holds up exceptionally well. In fact, I think it looks better than many modern 2D HD remakes of classic pixel art games, which I think is because they often have that terrible [imo] Flash/Smartphone/GameMakerTutorial look to them that I personally just hate. A game like Rayman from the early 3D era console platforms is a different thing though, as it's the next gen of 2D pixel art basically, so very different to that first wave of really pretty ugly 3D games that I honestly don't think holds up as an art style now. Rayman is the kind of gorgeous 2D pixel art I'd actually love to see more of in modern times. But I think there's a reason most modern developers trying to remake classic 2D games don't actually go for that full-effort 2D approach that I would say Rayman did go for, and it's because it requires a lot more time and effort like you said, which I think is a real shame. In such cases where they don't go maximum effort with the HD 2D art, I'd rather they just stick to pixel art personally. It's like I hate Streets of Rage 4 visually, but I love the new Shredder's Revenge game by comparison. But some other people love the look of SoR4, especially the younger gamers who have grown up with the likes of Flash/Smartphone/GameMakerTutorial-looking titles imo, so I guess that's more a matter of personal taste there.

[@GenerationPixel]

As someone in my 50s, and someone who's had a game controller almost surgically welded to my hand for over 45 years, it's nice to hear a kid talk complete sense. Nice work, kiddo.

[@extragoogleaccount6061]

Hey, he got his first peach fuzz 3 months ago. That kid has become a .......young adult now.

[@crazynaut223]

Whenever we get a nostalgic retro throwback there will be people growing up with and then getting nostalgic over those nostalgic retro throwbacks (for me it's Wii Virtual Console), and that's how we found ourselves in this endless cycle

[@BugsyFoga]

I love going to retro gaming stores and conventions when I was younger, It was truly a wonderful experiences, that I still cherish to this day

[@ProducerX21]

Scatt must have had some argument with the owner of a retro game store recently about what generation is the best

[@bcj842]

Or why that store owner was trying to sell Tecmo Bowl for $40.

[@nchldmn]

Id love to see what Scott thinks about Astrobot

[@Beanzops]

I eat the cotton candy from my walls

[@davidjaymz64]

i wonder what his thoughts on Gex are?

[@SuperTed.]

I wonder what his thoughts smell like

[@SolidN8]

If he liked the one that came free for ps5, then he prolly liked it

[@FreezeMotion]

i was thinking the same thing recently

[@Gus_ferraz]

That was the best video you've ever made Scott. I love the honesty, which is lacking in the retro community since forever.

[@milk-ub9zo]

The best video?? What about all the high production value stuff on his main channel

[@startrekfanman]

To be fair’s when you are an avid fan of a specific niche of hobby for over 10 years, that well might start to feel dry after that. I don’t think that goes for the niche hobby as a whole

[@SharpEdgeSoda]

There's always going to be new generations of kids that have never seen these games before, will play them, and make their own takes. I imagine how we look back on them will shift up and down as new populations enter and leave the "video games discourse". I'm 35. I'm at a point where I feel like I never need to discuss video games online ever again beyond my friend circle.

[@windy4566]

Man time is such a crazy thing bc im only 20 and i feel like I’ll get to the same point you’re at too. Like I don’t jump into the discourse ™️ as much as I used to but I still like chiming in

[@therealjaystone2344]

Kids don’t care about consoles anymore but are interested in retro handheld gaming

[@Railios103]

​@@therealjaystone2344 because couch coop is dead and buried

[@SaanMigwell]

I started with Atari. The worst games come from about1982-85 and then again from about 2021-2024. Both era's have the same problem. All the new games are cheap copies of each other, or poorly imitated classics from the bygone eras. It's about to renew again though, the customers are getting sick of it again, and like from 83-85 these next two years are going to show a marked decline in the gaming industry. By decline I mean companies going bankrupt and opening up the playing field to indies. That's what happened in 1985. I was there.

[@Railios103]

@SaanMigwell established 1990 myself but I completely agree!

[@theunsunghero6416]

This is Scott’s “Old man yells at cloud” video.

[@blarghblargh]

Nah, Cloud was on the PSX

[@cantabile7160]

Cloud: "not interested"

[@mikethetowns]

I used to print out every Nintendo DS new story I saw on a website before that lanched. I didn't need to print it all...but I was hyped haha.

[@bcj842]

gamer is a hell of a drug

[@5persondude]

Hearing Scott talk about those elitist NES era gamers made me realize something: AVGN made a joke about taking video games too seriously, and not only did everyone not get the joke, they became the butt of the joke themselves

[@Verchiel_]

Most people's retro console obsession is my flash game obsession. That was the majority of my early childhood gaming, seeing as consoles and actually buying games wasn't really an option back then.

[@cattysplat]

Most were made by teenagers just messing around trying to make a fun game too. Completely divorced from the industry of making money.

[@mystman1210]

I think the solution here is simple: Reject nostalgia. I own several retro consoles, but it's not because I'm nostalgic for them or that I just want to collect retro games for the sake of collecting. It's because there are still lots of great games on those consoles I haven't played and I'd like to play them eventually. My oldest console is an NES because the consoles before that just aren't worth playing. Atari, Intellivision, etc. only have value from nostalgia because, like you mention, basically none of those games have aged well. The NES and beyond is when legitimately good games that were more than just elaborate toys started being made and as such there are games from that era and beyond that interest me as much as some games releasing today. Nostalgia bait in media these days generally ticks me off because it clouds the inherently great qualities of many classic games. It often leads younger folks to think that older games are only worth playing if you're nostalgic for them or are interested in experiencing gaming history. For example, Donkey Kong Country 2 is one of my favorite games of all time. Why? Not because I grew up with it, but because when I played it, well wouldn't you know it it's just an inherently amazing game. Yet I've seen people say they won't bother playing the DKC games despite being readily available on Switch Online because they didn't grow up with them. Nintendo's nostalgia focused marketing is probably partly to blame for people having that mindset. So in summary: To me good games are good games and I don't focus much on what era they are from. If they pique my interest, I'll play 'em.

[@batmanbud2]

Ok, as someone who found the Rare DKCs good, but not great, that last part makes me mad. How do you know you won't enjoy a game, old or new, if you don't at least give it a try? That wasn't directed at you, BTW.

[@geothepoly]

Completely agree. I have no nostalgia for retro gaming (other than rereleases of the classic sonic games) but I bought a SNES and Genesis because there are some legitimately very good games that hold up today, and have a sort of simplicity to them that sets them apart from modern games. Nearly all of the physical games I've bought for these consoles, I first played them on the Switch Online or other emulators. Playing them on the original console just hits different.

[@cattysplat]

@@batmanbud2 The platforming in DKC is actually pretty bad. Slippery, overly large enemies, an obsession with barrels and moving cannons. It's everything around it that's great. The level design that has a new idea for each level, the incredible soundtrack, the charming characters pre-rendered 3D animation on a 2D system, collectables that are not just score padding. Rare games always offered something different to the generic competition.

[@Cheesehead302]

Exactly. There are a ton of experiences that are and will be brand new to me on older consoles, too many for me to actually experience in my entire life. I'm still finding random retro titles that I get enjoyment out of that I've never heard of. And hell, even out if the ones I have heard of, I haven't played all of them, there's just not enough time. I totally get his sentiment about those people that are weirdly huge elitist assholes about older games, I don't really get it. In my opinion, if you wanna use save states, do it, if you don't, don't do it. To a lot of people, beating their head into something for hours is a fun way to kill time, to other people, it's a waste of time. Either way, I really don't think we should be letting the opinions of others cloud our view of entire generations of stuff. There is always more interesting discover no matter the release year, and it's one of the things that's so great about emulation. You can throw a dart at a wall, and pick between literally thousands of games to play and see what they are like. Maybe it's weird, but I get some kind of satisfaction playing titles that aren't good as well? Like, it's just interesting to see early design decisions, think about what exactly lead them to doing a particular thing, and then try to overcome that limitation. Idk, maybe I just have brain damage at this point.

[@trevorwiant8838]

It’s funny, I pretty much thought exactly the same thing about the 16 bit era and old 2D arcade games and stuff for years. I figured the well was dry and I’d probably never go back to it. That is until I had a brief foray into obsessing over the Sega Saturn. Now after that I’m suddenly an absolute Sega Genesis fiend. I just can’t put it down. It totally caught me off guard. I guess my point is that this stuff comes in waves. You might think you’re over it, but if at any point you were obsessed with it, it’ll probably happen again eventually.

[@Encyclopedia_Brown97]

15:15 following up the statement “These are REAL games!!!” with a Ten Yard Fight clip is diabolical

[@-nomi.-]

Totally fair. I feel like a big issue with the conversations around retro games lately is that less than ever has it been about rediscovery and more than ever has it been about nostalgia

[@ethanhaynes7406]

I think it's just a lot harder for companies to embrace the "New" retro of thr PS2/Xbox-PS3/360 era because a lot of those games hold up so well, that a lot of people prefer that era of gaming to now. Look at Nintendo, the king of retro. They can only justify a gamecube rerelease if they price it at $40+ and do a full visual remake

[@UwUAveythyst]

You forgot that the Wii Should be considered retro because it's 18 years old

[@ethanhaynes7406]

@@UwUAveythyst wii is part of the PS3/360 era...

[@UwUAveythyst]

​@@ethanhaynes7406Well still

[@windy4566]

@@ethanhaynes7406All of those consoles are 2 years away from being 20. They’re retro dawg.

[@ethanhaynes7406]

@@windy4566 I was literally saying they are retro????

[@eightcoins4401]

Kirby's Adventure is mainly well regarded due to what it could achive on the NES.

[@Max1234qwert]

The remake on GBA is the definitive way to play though. Or the 3DS port

[@PinClockFuntime]

@@Max1234qwert 3DS Port is the definitive way to play, it's the NES version without the slowdown while GBA goes around and makes minor to notable changes.

[@TheAustinDelgado]

Well also bc it's Kirby

[@indiegoodies7098]

I also went through a NES collecting phase as a 12-15 year old inspired by the carts given to me by my grandma and shows like AVGN. I had no nostalgia for the era (grew up on ps2 and GBA) so my enjoyment or non-enjoyment of them was purely driven by my experience with them. I think we have sort of entered a post retro/modern era. Big budget games come out in the style of old school platformers or lean into pixel art. Ideally the fact that Gen z is now discussing these games should allow us to offer a less rose colored perspective on them. Just discuss them as games, that you can easily play today, rather than historical artifacts. They’re available on modern platforms. I wouldn’t review a movie from 1975 with a ton of pretext regarding when it came out unless it was ultra relevant to the content of the film. And I wouldn’t tell people the only true way to experience it was on VHS. I do think the annoying old heads who refuse to acknowledge things beyond 1996 or think you didn’t beat a game because you didn’t play it on a CRT and the original $500 cartridge have soured a lot of younger people from getting into some of the deep cuts. They’re irrelevant snobs who should be treated as such. I think a lot of them just want to keep the value of their investments up. And I say that as someone who still loves playing on og hardware when I can. I get what Scott is saying though, KZbin is flooded with reviews of NES stuff going back to 2006. At this point it probably is daunting to approach a the library with the goal of offering some sort of fresh perspective. I think it can be done though. But only if one still has genuine fun playing them.

[@Bro3256]

@indiegoodies7098 There's still lots of perspectives to look at for video games no matter what era you're digging into, what people are really sick of at this point are the surface level stuff that you pretty much hear from anyone that is remotely interested in the hobby of retro gaming. Don't be afraid to take the plunge on something cause you might discover an interesting artifact that you otherwise wouldn't have ever stumbed on. To put it in simple terms: dig deeper into the hobby you enjoy and you'll enjoy it even more.

[@cattysplat]

It helps that you could pick up old games for nothing in the 2000s. Plenty of shops to browse too. They're all gone now.

[@RetroGameFacts]

Rare Replay was seriously a blessing for us retro fans. It’s like the perfect collection to revisit those classics without digging out old consoles

[@Encyclopedia_Brown97]

I see where you’re coming from with the NES fatigue, but I will say that Jeremy Parish’s NESWorks series is genuinely doing some groundbreaking historic work on the NES catalogue and explaining the context of the 8-bit era really well.

[@rummyraisin]

Was just going to mention Jeremy! His work shows that the amount of stuff left to say about the 8-bit era is *immense*, verging into historical scholarship, and extremely interesting. But I can agree with Scott to some degree, that it probably won't continue being the sort of thing KZbin creators will clamor over each other to produce videos covering, at least those that target a younger audience...

[@dagger1580]

Personally I feel like games from the 16 bit era have truly stood the test of time! Super Nintendo and genesis game are still some of my favourite games to go back and too and play whereas a lot of the 8 bit games are pretty rough to go back too

[@ace94d]

I feel some agreement when it comes to retro, in the sense that I think sometimes too much focus on 8/16-bit happens, but I will say I am all four the PS1/N64 retro because I think that's actually a rather underdiscussed era at times. Plus it has a very distinct visual style and I've been glad to see indie games tapping into that. Been having a LOT of fun going back to some old classics (Ridge Racer Type-4 is one I never got to try but it is sooooooo good), and there's large libraries as well. Admittedly I've also been enjoying going back to 8/16-bit a lot, but I agree it is more difficult to discuss. I do think it also depends on what you're trying to dig into. It helps for example that I didn't get a Sony console until the PS2, so a lot of PS1 is fresh to me, and similar for SNES (I had an NES and an SNES but never got the SNES hooked up vs. my NES, N64 and Gamecube). Maybe trying to find some more niche games from that era would help for the passion? Gatekeepers suck either way and I do think people complain kinda heavily on modern gaming.

[@MegaNerdX]

I can’t get enough of Saturn Era tho. It never gets any major love & Sega does next to nothing with it

[@spartaninvirginia]

I wish they'd do a Saturn Mini. Id buy that in a heartbeat.

[@EdibleGymSock]

I’m in a similar boat where the 3rd and 4th generations feel pretty played out-no pun intended. I do still indulge in those gens, but like it’s like you said, pretty much all the most noteworthy games have been discovered. I’ve honestly found it far more interesting to go through the 5th, 6th, and 7th generations to find hidden gems or just finally play the titles I never could’ve as a kid. Plus, a lot of games from those consoles still hold up today, so you’re bound to find something you’ll want to see through to the end.

[@Hovercoww]

Scott would Freakin' LOVE UFO 50

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

I think at this point we don't have retro games and modern games, we just have games. And some are old and some are new.

[@8bitboss929]

As a guy in my mid 40s who’s been gaming since the original Nintendo I enjoy that stuff because I have fond memories of it from when I was a kid, which I’m pretty nostalgic about. I don’t know if I would play any of these games much if I didn’t grow up with them. And even though I look back on them fondly, I still mostly play modern games. My whole wife of gaming I’ve always been looking forward to what’s next and how it could improve and I think games are absolutely amazing now. I’d say probably 90% of the games I play are brand new, but I do love replaying certain titles from my past and I love having it all physically on original hardware. Although I think if I was to try and get all the stuff nowadays, it’s probably not worth the price especially if you didn’t grow up with it. I think also from a KZbinr point of you probably just got burnt out about it and like you say what else is there to say about it. Burn out is a real thing.

[@lanceknightmare]

I play 3DS, DS, Android, and Xbox One S mostly these days. The old games I used to play do not even have the same enjoyment they used to. One exception is playing Tetris.

[@UnculturedSwineStudios]

The thing about old cartridge based games and consoles is that they were stupid expensive when they were new. Most kids growing up probably only got to experience these games through a friend who had it, or if they did have a console they had very few games so those few experiences felt much more personal and special, regardless of the quality. When video games are as attainable as they are these days, it trivializes the magic video games used to possess for merely being a video game

[@fusionspace175]

Not really, as there was a lot of sell through and a secondary market pretty fast, and 30 bucks wasn't that much, it was the same as a Batcave playset cost or a big Ninja Turtles or GI Joe vehicle. Rental stores only had so much shelf space and so did stores, so the old and unwanted stock sold off much below list price, for whatever the owners decided they could get, sometimes just a few bucks. I worked at a video store in my first job during the N64 era, I did some of that shrink wrapping myself.

[@EditUnivers75]

@@fusionspace175A lot of SNES games were like 70 dollars. I agree with the original comment’s sentiment. I think it makes collecting them much more fun than emulating for the same reason, among other reasons to play on original hardware of course.

[@tubguinace]

I can FEEL Mike Matei pouting at this video telling him beating hard NES games without cheats or savestates isn't a big deal.

[@d-manthecaptain1382]

I like to think Scott decided to play Castlevania, died once, and made this video

[@brichan1851]

Modern and classic era games have their strengths and weaknesses. I got an NES in 1987. I was 9. I loved it and grew up with the NES, SNES, and Genesis. I still play a ton today. I love my gaming history. But people should never shame anyone for liking what they like, or for using save states. Play what you like. Play how you like. Enjoy it all. We don’t need division. We need to see this as an overall gaming culture. It’s all great. It’ll all fun. Enjoy yourself. That’s what these games are for.

[@klax001]

I was born in 1987, how is this video the first time I've ever heard or seen Mr. Nutz? I've been playing roms since 1999 and watching retro SNES game videos since the start of KZbin. I've never heard or seen this game ever before.

[@JLMetak]

It was mostly popular in PAL regions as it was developed in France

[@WeeAddy]

MS Paint and Windows Movie Maker animations are EXACTLY how I started my original channel back in 2007, I made a Sonic series using Sprites and "Sonic Scene Creators." Wild to think someone else did the exact same process for making "animations" when they were younger.

[@White25390]

Dude’s ability to ramble is through the roof, never change my dude, never change

[@dairyqing]

It's very cool seeing that me and Scott are the same person when it comes to experiencing games at a young age. We truly are from the same generation, even if he is a little bit older. Most of what Scott says about how he interacted with retro gaming and the curiosity you have as a kid who wanted to learn more about the history of Nintendo is so relatable I was pretty shocked. I'm sure there's several other kids-at-heart out there that share similar stories. This was a great Scott 's Stash episode.

[@LocalMultiplex]

This video, 100%. It's funny because your childhood was a fixed amount of time and there's only so many video games, tv shows, etc that you were exposed to. And I feel like at this point, I've relived almost all of them. I'm not complaining, but I rarely feel nostalgia now going to a classic game store or whatever.

[@Encyclopedia_Brown97]

My jaw dropped at 4:12 because I haven’t heard anyone mention Play Value in 15 years based on the first 6 minutes of this video, Scott and I had the *exact* same childhood

[@seanspear6224]

I’m in my 40s I go back to retro games once in a while

[@devinmix7508]

There's a lot of really good points here. I want to offer my $0.02 as someone who came of age during a lot of the "play X game raw or else!" rhetoric: I feel like being exposed to that really limited how much of these retro games I was able to experience. There are whole stages of Super Mario Bros, Ninja Gaiden, Contra, etc. that I have never had the opportunity to enjoy because I had internalized the idea that I had to suffer through their difficulty in order to experience them properly. It's taken me a lot of time to recognize that my hours are finite. I need to take advantage of the resources available to me if I want to experience as much of the art, music, stories, or neat mechanics as these games have to offer. On top of that, I strongly hold that since I was younger and didn't have my time consumed by adult responsibilities when I was trying to learn gaming history, accepting save states, rewinding, etc. as a legitimate play style is even more critical now. Blowing a whole weekend playing the first three stages of Castlevania because Dave on Reddit said I had to just doesn't make much sense as it did when I was 12. I need to buy groceries too. I also feel like people get (understandably) defensive over their favorite games, but can really end up ostracizing others in the process of defending them. The fact of the matter is that you, an independent individual, don't know what your favorite game actually is until you play it. In my opinion, the more games you're exposed to, the better developed your perspective on them is going to be. Your favorite game on the NES might be something niche that nobody talks about, but you're not going to discover that if you're stuck dying 500 times in Ghosts 'n Goblins because "that's just what you do". Overall, I think you make a really good point that boils down to "just play the damn games". The online conversation is so developed by now that it'll be there, likely unchanged, should you choose to come back to it.

[@K3vinTuCara]

I think it's also just cause we surrounded ourselves with it when growing just trying to learn everything that the history of it is just common knowledge to us Also it's far more accessible to play them too, back in the day we had to pick and choose what retro game we were gonna use our wii points on

[@SofaPop.]

Scott, you’re so real for this

[@noblecyberman957]

Scott describing his special interest in 23 minutes and you know I'm going to be here for it.

[@Mr_Redsfan]

Completely agree on the “what else is there to say” when it comes to early generations. I’m 42, so I grew up on NES. Its main period of being the main retro generation are over. So what’s left are wildly wrong takes (like calling anything with backtracking a “Metroidvania” and putting it in a compilation even if it isn’t), videos regurgitating what forums and Wikipedia and other better videos already say but more slickly produced and more zoomer humor (jokes/references interspersed every thirty seconds), and “hidden gem” comps where the best game on the list would charitably be a 6/10. SNES is also in this category, and N64/PS1/Saturn is getting there. There’s also the issue where most creators today seem to be under 30 and are too young to have been there for the generations they’re covering, leading to the issue where they just don’t know what they’re talking about (mispronouncing basic terms, don’t actually have experience with the games outside of tossing it on an emulator a couple of times and it shows). It feels like their passion is in trying to “make it on KZbin” and not geeking out about their subject matter and passion, and it makes for really bad content. I know this comment was a lot, thanks if you made it this far.

[@cattysplat]

It's not great from the opposite side either. Most older gamers just buy old games to put on a shelf, the collection horde instead of playing them. Which has rocketed up prices. Collecting games has nothing to do with playing games.

[@smudgetwo]

this type of retro game coverage is also largely US-exclusive, other regions largely don't view the NES in the same way whatsoever whether it's its lack of popularity in europe or its completely different identity in japan. the reason a lot of this stuff so stale is because different perspectives rarely get taken into consideration due to language barriers and the like so the same talking points are echoed repeatedly, "retro games" are still interesting and diverse as hell if you take a look outside the overdone america-centric approach to game history imo

[@cattysplat]

Sega and Micro computers were way bigger in Europe. Sometimes because cheaper games/piracy. But there was also distinctly a more adult culture. American culture was always obsessed with very safe child friendly media in the 80s and 90s, which fit Nintendo well.

[@libukegd5362]

The biggest thing i miss from my childhood gaming era is, how quick you could start the games. Just put it in the console, piwer it up an you are in, no loading, no OS booting.

[@dviant13]

This more than most other things. Please scale back our modern interfaces and boot times. I'd take the awesome hardware that can instantly boot up games that are comparable to last gen

[@mjdxp5688]

I've recently gotten really into retro gaming on my Commodore 64. It's a fantastic platform with so many great games.

[@omegapharaoh6978]

Retro gaming has turned into such a hassle nowadays 😂

[@itchylol742]

emulators

[@April480p]

Get an Anbernic console for $40. Download some games from easily-accessible websites. Insert the console's SD card to your PC and move the downloaded games into the correct folders. Put the SD card back into the console and turn it on. "Such a hassle"

[@ethanhaynes7406]

​@@itchylol742​even without pc emulation basically all of the titles a casual fan would be interested is available through collections or services like switch-online. What's hard for both emulators and console users is the newer retro market. Ps2/xbox through PS3/360 is not the easiest to emulate yet and outside of xbox companies really suck at preservation and releases for this time. It's not very easy for your average Joe to emulate Skylanders Giants for the ps3 lol

[@queasc0220]

@@itchylol742 ah ah ah, doesnt solve the problem of wanting to use original hardware. Many of which still would prefer.

[@poudink5791]

@@ethanhaynes7406 Sixth gen consoles (PS2/Xbox/Dreamcast/GameCube) aren't hard to emulate anymore. You're right about seventh gen, though. Wii emulation is easy (Nintendo emulators are always ahead), but PS3 emulation still demands very powerful hardware and 360 emulation is still very rough. But then as long as it's just a knowledge problem, it's nothing a couple hours of research can't fix. RPCS3 and Dolphin both have solid wikis and there are a myriad of tutorials online. For instance, if you Google "Skylanders RPCS3" you'll find plenty of video tutorials showing how to make it work. Plus, Giants is a multiplatform game. If you can't make it work on RPCS3, you can always try Cemu, or Dolphin, or Xenia, or Citra. Plus, the seventh console generation is really the most accessible generation nowadays. Outside of Steam sales, they're the go to for gamers on a budget. Used PS3 and Xbox 360 games are dirt cheap and so are the consoles.

[@Mobik_]

Pokemon Stadium 2 hold a big part of my childhood and still looks amazing nowadays. I finished Pokemon Gold recently and I'm leveling my Pokemon to transfer and play over my N64

[@Roddan96]

It is crazy seeing games that would go for $5 are $20 now.

[@lanceknightmare]

They were $5 because people just wanted to get rid of them. That price caused many to just throw away their games. Because, they were not worth enough to bother selling. Which is one reason those games are as expensive as they are these days. Many games for Nintendo DS and Nintendo 3DS have skyrocketed up to $40-50 for just a game without a case. Sellers like GameStop are 100% responsible for normalizing buying a game without its proper case for slightly less than the with its case value. Investment gamers, resellers, and those outright scamming the market are responsible for the high markup of games with their cases. The values of graded games is a known scam as well. Unfortunately, even though the information is out there. Not everyone knows the facts. People are literally collaborating with friends to just keep passing money back and forth. So, they can just keep buying the game with the same money back and forth to raise the price.

[@shepardcommander9960]

I agree for the most part and I haven't bought retro games since about 2017 because the prices just became too absurdly high and there's nowhere to find good deals anymore. I have over 200+ NES games but I haven't even used my NES since I bought my last game for it.

[@TJWasiuk]

I grew up during the GBA revival of NES games and Nintendo’s retro phase before Wii. After the Wii era I kinda got burnt out by NES games. I can still go back to SNES and later though.

[@therealjaystone2344]

Back when NES games being ported to GBA and the fans cried how Nintendo is selling the same games over and over. 20+ years later and Nintendo is still doing it again.

[@ErronBlack_Outlaw]

I’m a gen z Atari 2600 collector and the fact that they’re not well sought after means low prices for me!

[@Abcd-up3us]

Let’s not forget the massive mountain of merchandise and memorabilia that’s flooded store shelves for the past decade and a half. Just so much pointless garbage with a 16bit design or character printed on it and sold to us. Cheaply made t shirts, plastic backpacks, lunchboxes, coffee mugs, pins, notepads, lanyards, keychains, socks, pajama sets, pencils, phone cases, snacks, notebooks, energy drinks, large cardboard prints, rugs, bookmarks, stickers, plug and play replica systems, candy, stuffed plushies, wristbands, posters, cereals, toys. Literally anything you can imagine has had a 80s-90s era retro game character or design stamped on it. You go into a Walmart like 2-3 years ago and half the gaming section had some kind of retro affiliation with it. Or go into any store at that time and look in any direction and you could find something to do with retro gaming.

[@dionvandenberg]

Haha, the disdain in your comment is almost palpable. But yeah, how much plastic have we wasted on flimsy Mario backpacks in the last four decades? I'd like to know.

[@konakona091]

I specifically did not even try to get the nes classic because of the fact that a lot of those games are just a novelty to go back to and I already have the most important ones elsewhere, but the snes classic actually officially had EarthBound and Star Fox 2: two games that would've been difficult to own otherwise. I still have ended up playing those two games more on Switch Online but there's no telling if we'll even have access to that app after the Switch era is over lol. Retro gaming is a novelty to most people at this point, even to someone like me who actually really cares about it.

[@HashSlashh]

For years I held the same opinion on the NES, that it was majorly overrated online due to nostalgia pandering and that a lot of the games aren't that good or at least hadn't aged well... Then I spent a couple of days randomly going through the Atari's library and I quickly realized what an actual bad console looked like, it gave me an entirely new perspective and now I like the NES significantly more. However, I still mostly agree, I think a lot of discussion online has stagnated and only focuses on 2 or 3 tired old systems. People need to go out of their way and try some of the more obscure systems out there. Like, how many people have played Saturn or 3DO games truly? I love just trying random old stuff out and seeing what sticks or at least seeing what they were doing differently at the time. It completely refreshed retro gaming for me. Wholeheartedly recommend it

[@Infindox]

Saturn talk was usually hampered by poor emulation because of how difficult it was. You may notice that all the consoles that get talked about a lot are the easiest to do that with.

[@Vectorman64]

son let me introduce you to sega lord x

[@therealjaystone2344]

Too many nes games are also have shovelware too

[@thunderhammerx2966]

The 2600 isn't so much bad as it is absolutely ancient. If it was a contemporary of the NES then it would be bad, but it was from years earlier and on its last leg before the NES appeared.

[@greatsaiyaguy8868]

I LOVE THE SEGA SATURN!!!!

[@crtchicanery9605]

well I mean yeah, if you approach the nes with the attitude of "we all know what nes games are good" and consider switch nes online to be a sufficient selection to experience the console, then you're gonna run out of things to discuss extremely quickly, lol. it sounds like the actual thing you're experiencing is that your curiosity for the console's library only extends to some specific parameter. that's completely fine! but I think some further introspection about what it is you get (or got) out of retro gaming is warranted. I'd be interested in hearing some more developed thoughts on the matter.

[@windy4566]

Yeah this definitely feels like the issue

[@Cheesehead302]

This is why I'm still interested. Even on the NES alone, I'm looking at 100s of games, it's impossible for me to have checked out all of them. So you randomly pick some and discover the deal with different titles, but there are still always more. Like heck, even recently, played Battle for Olympus, a game like Zelda 2 set in ancient Greece. And I actually think it's one of the best titles on this system! Surprisingly modern hints for the most part, and even has a form of fast travel. But not just with good games, there is for some reason a level of intrigue that I have with bad ones too. It's just fun to see what worked and what didn't, and if you can overcome those problems and power through.

[@tyler_keeble]

Back in the late 2000s/early 2010s I got super into retro gaming and it was nice experiencing the classics for the first time. A very formative time in my life which helped me appreciate the history of gaming. Flashforward to today, now when I think about retro games it feels like "been there done that." I've slowed down substantially in collecting retro games these days for the reasons you mentioned. I'm much more focused on the present and experiencing what's new while it's happening. Hey, these new games will be "retro" one day too.

[@RatBürgerSk8]

The 80s retro games have been considered retro for so long, like since the 2000s. But games from the early 2000s are 20 years old at this point and get few re-releases or recognition apart from the ultra popular titles.

[@Catspirit123]

You hit the nail on the head I think. After 20+ years of online reviews and retrospectives we know all there is to know about the beloved games of old. Lots of quality in those eras but I’m not as enchanted by them as I was as a kid in the 2000’s

[@TheVoyger1234]

to me getting the most out of your hobby means starting out on the surface and ultimately seeing how much value as possible you can squeeze out of it, no matter how it's done. I think going by these comments a lot of people have taken this approach with the games they play and the channels they watch that discuss such games and have enjoyed their time significantly more. nostalgia, especially in the marketing sense can feel very tired after a certain point. even to me, you can't use nostalgia alone as fuel to drive your hobby. inevitably after some point you're gonna want to crave something new to explore, you can't really go back to "the surface". as long as there's something that gets that extensive deep dive (plenty of smaller channels to explore on that front) or even just a passing mention by intrigue, i think there is a lot that can still be done in the retro gaming space. also elitism and gatekeeping in hobbies can be a big turn-off, but I'll say this: ignore them. they don't want other people to have their fun, and I think people should have their fun. I don't have as much time to tap into gaming as a hobby these days, it's only a side interest. However I think what I've said here pretty much can also be applied to other hobbies that have similar issues. (looking at you, film and TV snobs...)

[@vicsilva651]

As a retro collector, I hope everyone that wants to enjoy retro games just emulates them. The price spike is ridicules, its really a market to try to price gauge.

[@Rihcterwilker]

Scott's midlife crisis. "Everything i used to love, i don't anymore"

[@YTBollyzGm]

Scotts stash is pretty much the main channel now

[@gaminglakitu]

I think retro gaming has simply gotten kinda boring because people have only been touching the surface level of retro stuff. And when everyone touches the surfaces, it isn't cool. Looking at deep parts of history or analyzing a cultural impact for games makes the most popular games much for fun to talk about, not to mention all of the hidden gems that no one talks about for these systems. It truly is just something that its boring on a base mass market level, but as someone who would be willing to look into the deepest depths of this stuff, it doesn't really feel boring

[@batmanbud2]

Everyone wants to talk about Super Mario Bros 3, but no one wants to talk about Kirby Mass Attack.

[@gaminglakitu]

@@batmanbud2 That's exactly what I'm saying

[@sc3ku]

I just learned about the Gradiente Phantom System today from Brazil. too loading with a Mega Drive controller and Atari 7800ish shell. International content makes for fun deep dives.

[@User-d6l6t]

I remember back when the Wii U was new I watched some older Nathaniel Bandy videos, and that was my introduction to Mario 64. I managed to convince my dad to buy the Mario 64 virtual console game, and I loved it (even if it’s one of the worst versions of Mario 64). I think that Mario 64 introduced me into being a big Nintendo guy as a whole. I am so glad that Mario 64 is still being modded, and am so glad that B3313 is as good as it is.

[@kaybeeh3717]

1:19 hey, i know another guy who likes to take us back to the past, but it's usually for different reasons...

[@notfriendlystudios1643]

Damn you beat me to it

[@brave_sir_robin54]

To play the shitty games that suck ass

[@pikminpro6692]

To play the shitty games that suck ass

[@Nokia3310do]

If you focus on certain eras of gaming for literal decades, you get exhausted. It's healthy to leave this stuff behind for a while. But something will happen that brings you back to it with a smile on your face. It always does.

[@God_Shen]

Scott is spending too much time on Twitter lol

[@sparks4384]

Lowkey modern games been so dry lately so the retro games hittin rn

[@jeredphillips3424]

I'm in my early thirties and just capped off about 2 years worth of collecting stuff. Man you hit the nail on the head. Cuz after I beat all this stuff in already thinking who I'm gonna sell it to. Love going back to the 360 era rn though. Feels so good compared to most of the stuff we get today.

[@tekkaman-blade]

Scott, Nintendo didn’t make NES games harder so you would rent them more, they did it so that you couldn’t beat it in a single rental and would be more likely to buy it to beat it. The game companies made no profit from the rental industry. Games were easier in Japan because it was actually illegal there to rent media.

[@PinClockFuntime]

Some, like his example of Castlevania, also came with the decision to not incorporate save batteries when converting FDS games to NES games. Which you could argue made it buy to beat but the game was designed to save after every level. Kid Icarus and Metroid also saved your progress.

[@disinformationworld9378]

If it was illegal to rent in Japan they wouldn’t care about designing games to avoid issues with rentals.

[@davsavchav]

I think certain things stand the test of time, for example, Pokémon Gold & Silver, Diddy Kong Racing, SSX 3, Winning Eleven 2007 (PES 6), Rugby 08 and CoD MWII '09. The problem is, there isn't any current gen that builds from it as well, simply because it doesn't match the current aesthetic. I genuinely believe if Nintendo sold a definitive edition of Yellow that matched Crystal, it would sell well. They could even make something like Pokémon Orange. R.e. this video, I've NEVER been interested in anything prior to Gameboy Color Pokémon and/or Nintendo 64.

[@CrabGonePsycho]

I started collecting retro games two years ago and you were a big part of the inspiration for owning these games physically. It's a form of preservation for these games. I collect Saturn and Dreamcast games, two consoles I had no nostalgia for. I think that's what it comes down to for me, there's a lot of these old games I know very little about and while that information is available online, I'd much rather grab a jewel case and crack open the manual.

[@prizmic3448]

I’ve been into retro games on and off in my life and it’s a bit disheartening to hear that so many people are just jaded at this point. I still don’t know what it’s like to play SMB3 on an NES and I feel like I shouldn’t get into the community or try to get those things because it’s “tired” and I should “find a different thing to play and talk about, we’ve been doing this for years.”

[@IHeart16Bit]

There's more to games than making videos about them.

[@shadhog0187]

I love watching Jeremy Parish. He does true retrospectives on retro video games and they are relaxing to watch.

[@GreyWolfLeaderTW]

Part of the reason for the NES/8-Bit/16-Bit nostalgia overload is the fact that the NES/GEN/SNES era was one in which small teams of developers could easily pump out games on minimal budgets and still make fantastic play experiences, and modern Indie devs have tapped that vein with the suction force of a kirby vacuum cleaner so hard that it has drained away nearly all enthusiasm for that era. Indie devs have found that disguising their limited budgets/resources behind the aesthetics of that era and claiming it is a deliberate design choice has served as perfect cover for them for the last 15+ years, and an obvious but inadvertent result of that, of course, is exposure overload.

[@GreenDragonPainting]

Nes came out when I was a kid. I will never forget the day I went to a friend's house after school and him powering on a nes with Metal Gear inside. Me personally I sold my "collection" and kept a select few games we either owned growing up, rented and enjoyed, or are actually fun to play. Outside of that, yeah im good.

[@HoroJoga]

I'm 33 and I perfectly understand Scott's point. We are kinda the 1st generation of people who experienced a stage of nostalgia about gaming that was more than just small talk with friends. We probably had as much time playing old videogames as we did with current stuff, and this would tire at some point. People who grew up in 2000s/2010s were bombarded with nostalgic content, such as AVGN and whatnot, and that was cool because it was the first time this feeling was validated. But now in 2024, we've already lived this thing and most of us have moved on.

[@cattysplat]

We've also experience the reality of retro, it wasn't some glorious nostalgia goggled better time, but had good, bad and very outdated things, especially on a technical level as technology has been improving rapidly. Anyone who lived through those times when they were relevant too, knows that the actually games were just half the story. The technology, culture, competition, trends and surrounding media of the world at that time all played a part in experiencing that game.

[@who2785]

One of the best videos on Scott's Stash

[@ItsDanielPika]

23 minutes to say "people who grew up with the NES are old now, and people in my age who grew up with the GameCube, want to talk about the GameCube" Which is true, but a roundabout way to say it. Everyone is old. The 20 to 30 year Olds talking about youtube didn't grow up with NES. They grew up with N64, GameCube, PS2, wii, etc.

[@ianmcintosh8307]

It's so weird because I'm 30 and my first experiences with video games were on the nes and Atari 2600 which turned into playing the SNES, N64, ps2 etc which were like modern when I was playing them, not that I owned them all at the time but can remember playing them when they were a big deal, and hearing Scott many times talk about not getting into those things until like the wii era makes me feel old but I'm like not much older than him

[@gmgz]

Retro gaming, aka clinging to the last part of childhood that hasn't faded away.