Who is the king of the sea? Seaking vs Seadra - Pokemon Yellow

[@TheMoogleKing93]

Since Seadra got to evolve into Kingdra, Seaking should get an evolution stealing the other halves of their names - Seasea

[@Kali_Krause]

Or Seazor since there's an in game trade in Fire Red/Leaf Green that has a Seadra named that. It's a pun on Scizor lol

[@C_Train74]

@@Kali_KrauseAlso sounds like Ceaser, and the leader of Rome feels like a step up from a typical king.

[@CaravanOfSleep]

Seaczar

[@eleventhhouseofzenith]

What about Draking

[@Diz_27]

​@@eleventhhouseofzenith i was just about to comment this. Lol

[@Ectar2003]

Who is the king of the sea? KINGler: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@input-latency2684]

yea

[@Kali_Krause]

I sea what you did there 😂

[@kb27787]

SlowKING: bow before me you peasants! I actually have the king's rock!

[@juanca2648]

Maybe I won't be the best in the sea, but KINGdra will come after you

[@braingaming8224]

he is only a king of ler

[@gemini5356]

The real battle is the Gen 3 king royale- Kingdra vs Seaking vs Kingler vs Slowking vs Nidoking vs Slaking

[@a.r.4822]

Thanks for reminding me to do a "royal mons only" nuzlocke lol

[@Raziel_The_Soul_Reaver]

Don't forget Kingambit

[@SinnerChrono]

9 hr video lol 😂

[@Salnax]

The battle of slightly underwhelming Water types!

[@christiandorr1546]

“Slightly”? That’s being generous.

[@treezues9586]

Why do you have to be so negative?

[@Salnax]

They can use STAB Surf and Ice Beam. That’s enough so I won’t feel cheated using them.

[@Salnax]

@@treezues9586 There are 16 distinct Water type families in Generation I. Of course I'm going to compare them to one another.

[@blakeschwab7518]

lol right, but, slightly underwhelming for seadra ! very underwhelming for seaking!

[@sopadumacacoumadelicia5]

It'd be really funny if the Goldeen trainer in Misty's gym defeated Seaking

[@ZealousPawn]

It did in a few of my attempts

[@nsneddon24]

Very hilarious

[@Da_RatRacer4251]

Fun fact: Starting in Gen 2 Seaking is (perhaps) the only Pokémon that learns a HM move by level up. That move is Waterfall.

[@mattiamerlo2688]

In gen 2 seaking is the only pokemon that does that, in gen 3 salamence learns fly when evolving and wailmer and clamperl learn whirlpool. From gen 4 onward more pokemon learn HMs via level up

[@lookingglass4422]

@@mattiamerlo2688 Rayquaza also learns fly by level up in Gen 3

[@tsawy6]

​​​@@mattiamerlo2688 whirlpool isn't a hm in gen 3, and a few others get it

[@mattiamerlo2688]

@@lookingglass4422 yes although we don't see Ray learning it because we catch at level 70

[@mattiamerlo2688]

@@tsawy6 technically not, but in HGSS it is still an hm (annoyingly) but ye surely there are more for whirlpool, just named two that I remembered from casual gameplay

[@jamesthegaminguy]

Scott giving the fans what they needed with this……”you know how long I’ve been waiting for this? I’m about to make a name for myself.”-famous quote from Scott’s Thoughts

[@justinsims655]

The type-based production cycle is going to have everyone reading their tea leaves to predict future videos. Scott knows how to stir up debate in comment sections lol.

[@thesillyone3837]

Was thinking you ment grass types where next

[@tsawy6]

​@thesillyone3837 there aren't a great many fully evolved grass types left! Tangela and venusaur only by my count

[@TheMoogleKing93]

@@thesillyone3837 Weepinbel / Gloom / Ivysaur 3 way

[@finally_dorian]

@@tsawy6 Yeah, but Venusaur is thematically tied to the starters 🤷🏾

[@finally_dorian]

@@TheMoogleKing93As is Ivysaur 🤷🏾

[@charlessegale6493]

Scott, channeling his inner BigLeagueMDB: I named it Rapidash, because that's hilarious.

[@Salnax]

21:28 I half expected an ad.

[@SkullyMegaTen]

Very much like the idea of going into the failures more. Shows how you can reasonably mess up with a specific pokemon.

[@TastyMeerkat]

Venomoth Fact #42: Flakey fish food look like the way it does because it's based on the ancient practice of breaking up shed Venomoth scales to use as food for carp, allowing them to grow healthy and strong.

[@aidanhogan-thomas1797]

Brother! 38?? That can't be healthy for one mans mental.

[@rooislangwtf]

Scott learning the fun of yolo'ing Horn Drill.... character development

[@Tricken0187]

38 attempts! holy cow

[@SourceOfBeing]

Somehow I never knew Rapidash can learn Bubblebeam. I guess I just never tried to teach it.

[@Diz_27]

I can't believe you made be look it up to see it's true or not... 😒

[@airhead3409]

​​@@Diz_27wasn't the joke that he named seadra rapidash?

[@Diz_27]

@airhead3409 i didn't catch on until later lmao I'm a little slow on the uptake. 😅

[@TheJohnharple]

The more I watch videos like yours Scott, I am absolutely in awe that red, blue and yellow even work let alone are fun. It is incredible that they were able to do what they did with as little wiggle room as they had. It's amazing that any of this even could be playable let alone have as much impact and popularity as it did when it first came out

[@Dolph1nRacer]

Two amazing dad jokes in the first 90 seconds of the video. I'm cackling already.

[@henrymars6626]

He's practicing

[@matversion2]

"remember that on first playthroughs I play extra safely so that I dont get stuck later in the game." You see this is called the Arcanine principle.

[@Lurker504]

love that the animation with Pikachu ringing the chimeco was back

[@threeicedcreams]

0:16 I’ve missed this animation, it’s good to see it again!

[@kevingunderson1334]

It’s nice watching these videos and seeing backsprites I’ve never before witnessed despite playing these games for so many years

[@letsmakeit110]

34:57 'this cue ball has decent experience yields because these are all bald pokemon'

[@sepg5084]

You sometimes fish for critical hits/miss/chance to inflict status/etc. OHKO fishing is no different

[@RoninCatholic]

Magikarp's Japanese name is Koiking. We further have Seaking, Kingra, Slowking, Kingler, and Empoleon. Water is just a very royal Pokemon type, apparently.

[@tobarf2940]

Really like you talking about your failure during optimization and your thought process after your best run!

[@jungleoboe520]

I had to pause the video because i was laughing so hard at the seaking bit at the beginning. Bravo :)

[@theSato]

Oh good, I was finally starting to run out of Raticate vs Furret to keep my mind occupied in bed. very happy we got another 1h+ video already ahaha, bless scott

[@MaxMustermann-on2gd]

You listen to this stuff in bed as well? 😅

[@Talkin-fr0g]

I was doing the same thing!

[@bobbys0642]

​@@MaxMustermann-on2gdyeah I'm guilty of this too.

[@lookingglass4422]

Man I thought I was immune to these "Mandela effect" type things where people misremember what region a Pokemon is from or some aspect of its design or something, but this video shattered that illusion by teaching me that Seadra is in fact a mono-Water type and always has been. I always thought it was part-Poison.

[@lordcooler8160]

That’s literally me with Sandslash and Sandshrew I thought they were ground-poison

[@tsawy6]

Nah just has poison point!

[@greysquirrel404]

It's not your fault. It's a gen 1 Pokemon and most of those are part-Poison.

[@tsawy6]

@greysquirrel404 in the water types it's just tentacruel tho

[@pauledwards6183]

Just wanted to say how much I love your videos and how you display all the information on the sides, makes it so easy to follow and understand what strategies you are taking on. Keep up the great work :)

[@patrickbroome5427]

I love the approach of showing both some of the failures as well as final run as it gives a lot of insight

[@Calemad]

Me and my wife often watch videos together on my living room's television and often times depending on what we're watching, we need subtitles otherwise it's really hard to understand what people are saying, as english is neither of our first languages, we're both self-taught and the television sound is not as clear as headphones. Some channels have people who speak incredibly clear, and we can understand just fine 90% of it and get the other 10% from context. The reason I'm mentioning this is because today while watching this video I suddenly realized how absolutely clear your narration is and that we can understand 100% of what you say as if you had subtitles, sometimes even while I'm doing other tasks that produce noise, I can still understand everything. I don't know if this counts as feedback, but I just wanted to say how good the sound quality of your videos are and how clear your narration sounds. I feel like this is something that often gets overlooked. Just great sound quality in general. Additionally, earlier this week I decided to rewatch a 2 year old video of yours because I forgot how I went and it blew me away comparing to now how much better you've gotten at this. Not just the editing, play skill, game knowledge of overlay quality - those have all improved too - but mostly the sheer quality of the narration, structure of the video and clarity in the explanations.

[@yoalexdanoob4177]

You forgot Kingler 😼

[@MayVeryWellBeep]

The ominous footage of the player sprite approaching the wrapping lass as Scott says, "I'm going to show you some of the runs that did not go well"

[@Mis73rRand0m]

I used to just luck through major battles with 1 hit k/o moves as a kid because I thought it was so OP and hilarious - plus I got infinite tries with saving so who cares. Lol

[@malcsinger90]

So just as you were talking about using Horn Drill, I was doing my own playthrough. Clefable used metronome, chose Guillotine, and it actually hit!! If I were a superstitious kind of person, I'd say that it's a sign for you to use 1-hit-KO moves forever now.

[@marlysalt]

the 'here is where failures are, and thus why I do these things in response to that failure' parts are important

[@fozlrof]

Wait, if you had done this video then the electric, then the ground, you would still have the same synergy. Especially if the next vs video is grass

[@CelticGuardian7]

I like having some of the failures being shown. It gives better context for how difficult certain runs can get than just saying how many runs it took. =)

[@midnightisin7874]

Ngl, bro said "square space" and my flygon hg ptsd kicked in.

[@TripleShizzle]

I enjoyed the inclusion of how the optimisation process happens, great run!

[@TJF588]

I hate how much I'm laughing out loud at the silent zoom-in on the Sea King.

[@malcanater007]

I've been sick with like a fever for the past few days. Starting to feel better today. Your videos always help lol

[@zedslair9822]

I love the arrow you use to highlight things (which is totally not a Venomoth head)

[@ZacUAX]

Scott, ever think about doing merch? Maybe like your favorite tier list printed on a poster or a t shirt? I'd love to buy something like that, given the hours of entertainment you've provided.

[@matthewsnic]

I have been wondering when a Seaking video might come out, and I was so happy to see it in my sub box ! Love the royal fish guy, my man Seaking 🧡

[@banditrests]

This is exactly the point I’ve been making about OHKO moves! It’s a fallback position and mathematically if you have more than a 4 shot or no other way through a Pokémon without massively over training, it’s the best option. They’re similar to Gen 1 trapping moves in that way. Using the horn drill TM was genius. Also, a possibly use case for waterfall is holding on to it to give you better move set flexibility since you can delete it later if you need to and later surf is always an option.

[@C_Train74]

“Maybe Seaking’s back sprite will be better” I started laughing out loud because I have seen that abomination, but at least it’s closer to what we know than it’s Gen 1 R/B front sprite

[@notmyrealnameify]

Thanks for another video. Nice to see how much difference there is compare to their evolutions😊

[@LordRazzia]

22:43 you can't keep getting away with this!! 😂😈

[@Colin1Moriarty]

Man Seadra is such a cool design for a Pokémon and I think it's better than kingdra! Wish it was a little better cause it looks like it could be a pesudo legendary haha! Glad it beat seaking though but Scott you doing all these attempts you need to know I appreciate it so much. Everytime you upload it just brings me alot of joy! Keep it up

[@pattyboyz]

I really enjoyed the deep dive into the struggles in optimization

[@kevinsips3658]

@25:33 This use of asymmetric does seem very appropriate as your’re choosing between two options 👍👍

[@thenerdbeast7375]

Like with the Tauros/Kangaskhan video, the better coverage earlier on gave the underdog the tools necessary to overcome walls.

[@walkermyers3808]

Yes. We watch this to learn. Most of the time we learn more from failure than success. Thanks for your commitment and videos. ❤

[@archiiebarrett]

I've been asking for this for centuries. Thanks Scott!

[@kulrigalestout]

Seadra's back sprite may be kinda bad, but the front sprite is majestic.

[@leonardotolomeo899]

For Seaking’s issue with move set at the Elite 4, have you tried experimenting with not teaching Surf and instead running with Waterfall? This would let you replace Waterfall with Blizzard for Lance, and having an extra move slot in case you want to teach Rest.

[@ScottsThoughtsPokemon]

I have not tried experimenting with Waterfall. Cool idea.

[@ChaosWindScar99]

Those first playthroughs were insanely close, WOW! I'm shocked at the use of Horn Drill but i think its fun to see so nice job to ZealousPawn. Also Seadra did better than I expected but I would have liked to see Kindra's backport results up there with it; just for fun of course. I do like seeing some of the failed attempts up there, gives a bit of a stream feel while showing us why you do what you do. Also 49:38 I realized for Goldfish (Seaking) you used the Vaporeon team intro for the champion battle. Not really a nitpick, just something I noticed. After all I know how much effort you put into these... Did you say 38 attempts??? Either way 13 finishes is why we love you Scott, much love keep it up.

[@Pokemonika_]

i truly expected another King of the Sea to appear... Kingler! but we'll have to wait for his time

[@junepearthespork1469]

Keep up the amazing work Scott I look forward to every one of your videos!

[@blakeschwab7518]

was rootin for my boy seadra on this one, your videos have been particularly good lately. gotta say on paper magneton doesnt have good physical bulk, its defense is pretty good but its hp is absolutely awful (charmeleon has more hp than this thing). issue is it has just enough bulk to survive non stab earthquakes a lot of the time and thats its only weakness

[@helgemeff5555]

0:22 seconds and I am already amazing. Love it.

[@TheCulturedMan34]

22:42 You walked into that one sir😂😂😂

[@888Grim]

Excellent video as always =) I like the new trainer art!

[@bobosmith101]

You really showed how you figured out your routing, cool!

[@PabloNeves26]

What's a mob to a king? What's a king to a dragon? What's a dragon to a non-believer?

[@draykenly8418]

Honestly I think u might not need surf for seaking if u had waterfall for lance u can replace it with rest to give more sustainability

[@tsawy6]

Ahhhh shit you're one hundred prevent right. I was sitting there all 'surf is a problem' but i didn't think about waterfall!

[@tehy123]

This might be true for major battles, but giving up Surf probably slows down a lot of random overworld training and so on

[@draykenly8418]

@@tehy123 here’s the thing he’s already risking with horn drill the only way is Seaking is getting optimal time is with risk and honestly maybe less damage from waterfall might be the key as it allows Seaking to be more flexible with its moveset

[@irish_owl21]

I like to think of the hiker just after Brock in the cave who has 2 geodudes and an onix as Brock’s dad from the anime. Similar team, hanging out close to Pewter city, ready to take over after Brock leaves. He’s a little chunkier than Brock’s dad but other than that it’s a similar look.

[@justanotheremptychannel2472]

Loved the "bloopers" lol Weedle vs Kakuna when?

[@bluethemew9273]

Seaking is the king of the sea, it’s in the name however the only king I see is Scott doing these fun playthrough

[@mr.number9279]

Seaking did really good. I know that you wish it would've outdone Seadra, but that was a stellar performance. Seadra did surprisingly well considering its movepool is, well, nothing. Great runs!

[@shimauta1941]

Interesting results for these two. Great video.

[@Zorgdub]

8:22 "But it's not the worst thing in the world." No, that would be Seal from what I remember...

[@perkypenguin1663]

Watching this video made me think about the unused Oak battle, particularly your thoughts on what the "right" starter would be. Considering the Oak fight was designed with R/B in mind, you'd likely have to fight the team with the starter WEAK to yours. If you pick Bulbasaur, then the rival would pick Charmander, leaving Oak with Squirtle. I don't think going by this philosophy would make the Oak fights more interesting, but it's something I felt like sharing.

[@airhead3409]

I've been craving yellow so much 😭

[@Talkin-fr0g]

55:45 I can’t really read the stats for seaking, the text is abit too dark- I’d recommend maybe going with the Pokémon’s orange? Good video as always though.

[@jonathanfrank9207]

That pun made me belly laugh, Scott! 😂😂😂

[@LuckyLucifer25]

I can't wait to see a 3 hour long video of venasaur vs Charizard vs blastoise.

[@kode-man23]

It has to be the finale for Yellow. He did technically do one where he evolved each line through all three stages. But the Starters’ final evolution, for the entire run, that has to be the last video that he’ll do for yellow. And yes, it will almost certainly be 3 hours 😂

[@momsforseti318]

@@kode-man23 He already said the last video is going to be Mewtwo

[@kode-man23]

@@momsforseti318 Penultimate finale, then.

[@AlexanderJamesWhite]

Your puns are on point. I love them

[@ivankelava9191]

I nicknamed my Seadra to Rapidash because it evolves from Horsea yo this had me laughing for a while i had to rewind like 5 minutes of the video man what a blast ahahaha

[@huebstevens]

Hey Scott, As always a brillant, funny and fully comprehensive video regarding these both monarchs of the sea. Especially the nicknaming conventions got me this time around :D FYI - 34:27 min you said "This is where Seaking starts to hit it´s stride." As you are a person that prides itself an strives on communicational clarity, i think, this an the following lines can be a bit missundertoo. Since you are using the species of Seadra - but using the name Seaking - was it just a misshapp an you are talking about the exact same Pokemon we are seeing at this exact moment of time in the presented footage? Or are you perhaps talking about the previous Pokemon, since this one doesnt use Swift throughout the migame. Just wante to let you know and change this hopefully littel blip for futur viewers. Sincere greetings from Germany :D

[@Jueboi]

When I saw the list, I surprisingly missed the full evolved Starter-Pokémon. I'm very excited, how they will perform.

[@colekramer175]

Ooh! A Grass or Electric Versus next. Well, if you don't repeat the electrics (Magnemite vs Voltorb vs Pikachu sounds like a triple-nightmare) it'd be the grass types of which there are four left. (I think) Ivysaur, Venusaur, Weepinbell, and Tangela. Venusaur works best in a starter-themed video, and Tangela is a rather silly fellow. I think it's gonna be a race between the last two Middle-stage grass/poison types, who both get Razor Leaf and Growth! If I'm right, my money is on Weepinbell for getting Vine Whip at level 1 for Brock and Misty.

[@blackomega2526]

22:43 give you more play with your what?.......!!!

[@JJ-qo7th]

You must be new here. :P

[@juanchirino4900]

Another awesome video Scott. Cheers to you.

[@lz_paige]

Seeing Waterfall and Horn Drill here makes me really interested in seeing which moves you do/don't end up using by the end of the series. I don't know if you have that data, but if you do I think it would be interesting to see after you've gone through all 151 Pokemon.

[@ZerglingOne1]

If you have less than 30% chance to get by something, then OHKO moves become useful. That is how you should always view them. You should also look at the entire stack of PP for it as a single attack because you only have to hit one time. If you use that metric and it's a "5 shot" it has an 83.2% chance to activate at some point in there.

[@lavitzdies624]

The triumphant return of the subscribe animation ❤

[@marsella527]

Honestly, that intro would have been a great April Fools joke. Do the same thing, but just have been a still frame of Seaking for an hour

[@TripleShizzle]

Great video! Casual games are great if you are time poor as well

[@DwunD016]

Im gonna say seadra is the better of the two. But of course, I'm gonna comeback to edit my comment to say what timestamp I made it to. First edit: 0:20. No Scott, YOU'RE INCREDIBLE Second edit: Not surprised about either pokemons ranking. I can't wait to see a Kingler run. I believe it will outperform both. And perhaps even Starmie and Tentacruel. Third edit: I made it to 1:31:44. And no Scott, YOU'RE INCREDIBLE.

[@ZealousPawn]

Kingdra will probably be S-tier

[@DwunD016]

@@ZealousPawn i know he backported it to yellow over a year and a half ago. I need to go back and check how it did

[@craigyeah1052]

I did enjoy seeing some insight into the refinement process, but I do think the additional length is overall a detriment. Not sure if others feel the same, but it's a lot to sit through for a single video imo.

[@defia54]

Big ups, caught a shiny Goldeen right when that part of the video started

[@TangerineTux]

I’m picturing a future where the game’s AI is LLM-based, and the Seadra being nicknamed “Rapidash” confuses it.

[@finally_dorian]

3:48 my soul #SoulRead says premier of 3 year redo of Tangela, 1 year redo of Exeggcute, and premier of Exeggcutor. These are the only grass left not on the board and Water backs you into a corner of electric and grass and literally started the year with the electrics that aren't attached to the birds (Zapdos), Eevees (Joltean), punches (Electabuzz), and mascot (Pikachu/Raichu). ...unless you're reaching back for Magnemite vs Voltorb for a cycle to end the year. 👀

[@rayongaynor456]

Scott sounds like he was cheering on seaking for the win

[@tysonpestner]

Today I learned that Seaking is neurodivergent because it has ADHP. Thank you as always for the informative and entertaining videos

[@tyrantmonnie6618]

I think we should call the status condition jr trainer Stacey 😂

[@Corysquestions]

For some reason I thought that Serra started with a water move and would crush the early game like a toddles stomping it’s first ant hill