The Most Important Mechanism OF ALL TIME, and No One Took Credit?

[@captainstroon1555]

To make Mr. Swiss Watchmaker proud, you could build an entire mechanical clock based on this Geneva mechanism

[@onerxowns2202]

You meant, ANY mechanical clock

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

grandfather clock with 18 extra gears

[@Drag0nmaster]

Yes

[@Rose_Butterfly98]

Wouldn't really need this though. Geneva mechanism is mostly used for the winding mechanism, to stop it from being over wound or unwinding too much because when the spring is really wound or really unwound, the power it provides is a decreasing curve, in the middle is when the power is relatively linear and constant. All it does is prevent you from winding the last round and unwinding the first round of the watch. I don't remember if we have clocksprings in scrap mechanic but if it's powered by an engine, we wouldn't need the Geneva mechanism.

[@RealPanzer999]

@@Rose_Butterfly98 but it can look better than just constantly rotating & it's a fun experiment

[@Chris-ok4zo]

I feel like this can lead to a select fire gun mechanism, you can have single, burst and full auto, using sensors, some logic, etc.

[@JustIn-sr1xe]

We're thinking a similar line of thought.

[@danielm.595]

I wouldn't be surprised if the first automatic guns firing mechanism were inspired by this.

[@THESLlCK]

This is far too complex for a gun. Automatics literally just move the trigger out of the way

[@Dragonorder18]

that is a clever idea. Though I was thinking more in the range of something like a Rotating turret.

[@ilovehumongoushonkers]

@@THESLlCK have you seen the g11

[@captainsnekk]

So... maybe alot of these recent creations would work better in main assembly because you can do curves...

[@somedude4227]

but that wouldn't be challenging enough

[@shromp_]

Main Assembly does allow curves, but they don't work so well when they collide with each other ._.

[@cxtacon7543]

No one like main assembly

[@THESLlCK]

@@cxtacon7543 that ain’t true lol

[@koktszfung]

I have never played main assembly but from watching scrapman play, the structure in main assembly seems very fragile, like when things collide, they are not rigid but more like paper and they will bend

[@dantan205gaming2]

I'd love to see an actual movie projector using this mechanism and painted glass blocks

[@ZephyrusAsmodeus]

I can't express just how much Scrap Mechanic has awoken my inner engineer, no other game has gotten me so invested in invention and mechanical physics, yours and a couple other KZbin channels adding to that greatly as well, having a great time with it all

[@ProjectNoDarkNight]

It would be very interesting to see this mechanism used in a creation. Could you try making a clock or film projector? (Film projector doesn’t have to be functional, but if you want it to, just use a green screen and fake it.)

[@kadenjenner9012]

Are you challenging him?

[@sendie7645]

bro literally made a 3D printer hes got this ez

[@gmodshtpost2913]

I love how you fully explain how the mechanism that you are going to build works. That makes your video very interesting and educational.

[@Lee-One]

I love how you showed his channel and stuff too so it’s not just scrap mechanic pretty cool

[@oscarsvensson6919]

I dont often watch a video to its very end but when it comes to your videos i listen to the outro multiple times. Its perfect,i love it

[@ttyler7256]

You could probably use something like this to recreate the timed firing system they used on planes in world war 1 to shoot in-between spinning propeller blades while still being able to line up shots

[@THESLlCK]

Not how it worked at all. Those planes didn’t have actual machine guns. They were fired by the engine, and had a semi-automatic natural cycle with the only thing actually repeatedly triggering the mechanism being the engine itself.

[@ttyler7256]

@@THESLlCK thanks for the clarification

[@theyeetus1428]

@@THESLlCK I think they meant that Scrapman could make something that accomplishes the same thing, not necessarily doing it the same way.

[@wannabenormaldude4570]

You are single handedly getting me back into creating things. Your videos are so fun to watch and the mechanisms and history behind are entertaining to learn about. Thanks for being you!

[@thetuanschannel4113]

Scrapman, since the theme nowadays is Mechanically Mechanical Mechanisms, I recommend you try to make many other Mechanical Mechanisms. I'm pretty sure mathematicians and knowledgeable people will like it

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

giant clock (for maximum lag)

[@plushytoons7423]

Smart people will probably not care but he can try

[@guts60]

You could use this to make a giant ammo loader, a rotating turret so one side shoots while the previous shot reloads, a weird walking mechanism, and several other things I can’t think of

[@jacquelyn972]

be cool if he revisted old games he played like satisfactory brick rigs ect

[@ZERO-7-7-7]

I second him doing it

[@tomatoe308]

He won't bc no one watched

[@guillermoelnino]

@@tomatoe308 to be fare, his scrap mechanic stuff is what he built his channel on.

[@tomatoe308]

@@guillermoelnino ye

[@PedroSantos-ie1oy]

I really liked this episode! The teaching, the mathy stuff, the scrap mechanic, I love it all

[@weaselodooms]

My highschool had a theater that used reel to reel machines. I got to help the technician fix the shutter on one of our machines and he told me about the geneva drive on it. Cool stuff.

[@haydenbelles]

Do a multiplayer Monday where you all build cars in trail makers that can pick up and throw barrels at each other. And maybe you can use the spawning mod to get more barrels.

[@roningaming8238]

very much please do

[@moeck7342]

good idea

[@rox2225]

But the multiplayer monday is in scrap mechanic

[@roningaming8238]

@@rox2225 you do realize that scrapman does do multiplayer monday in both trailmakers and scrap mechanic

[@Nate5]

You should make a car out of this using this as the wheel so it only drives once or twice per rotation

[@Lee-One]

Of*

[@nordicdrow]

Slight possible improvement to the mechanism: Set the suspension stop mecanism in two suspensions instead of one. You see, right now when you lock it in, it pull down to go in, so at higher speed it might still have it down and create the problem. If you have it in another suspension (probably with a bit higher stiffness) it will stop earlier. It would still go down with the piece that is being unlocked, thats why im not sure it will work, but it just might.

[@henrystickmin8812]

10:36 i think the problem comes from specifically the pipes exactly 3 blocks away from the center i realised it has a pattern when it twitches

[@gbyt034]

Exactly lined up with the driving pin

[@theyeetus1428]

I think the problem was the blocks sticking out from where those pipes were, which were causing the unpowered wheel to spin when it wasn't supposed to.

[@henrystickmin8812]

@@theyeetus1428 I dont understand, how is that supposed to change anything?

[@theyeetus1428]

@@henrystickmin8812 The friction from them touching the wheel spins it when it shouldn't be.

[@henrystickmin8812]

@@theyeetus1428 i dont think thats a possibility

[@tech-boy334]

Please make a functional mechanical clock.... That would look so amazing

[@NotNitehawk]

Gonna be honest, didn't think this was gonna work. Should have learned by now, you always make it work.

[@blacktownshadow1325]

This is by far my favorite video on this channel!

[@SkrafEyeQ]

i like that you use vanilla even tho the pogygon mod would really help or you are just... or you didnt think of that

[@RockyBergen]

I am an aspiring watchmaker so this is right down my alley. I'd watch you mess around in FreeCAD or something more technical too btw.

[@HalfWolf2]

That last part with the pauses would be great for a metronome, in 4/4 time you could have it pause one or play a different noise via color sensor, and the speed of the engine will adjust bpm while the number of pins is the measure time

[@petersage5157]

I like your suspension based solution with dogs to keep the cross from over-rotating. You've re-invented the hammer drill.

[@EraChanZ]

I'm actually pretty impressed by how you got this to work @scrapman! I would like to see you optimize this system and maybe turn it into a walking mechanism of some kind?

[@malhardeadshot6118]

well now scrapman's channel has become an educational one with a twist, he explains mechanisms in a game while others do it in a simulation, this one is way more fun :). keep giving your important and valuable knowledge for the greater good of humanity and science

[@mki443]

Very cool! A Cardan Shaft might also be interesting to see (Although it is maybe too simple, and sm physics might not allow it)

[@chilledout_5486]

Really loving the "recreate something from the past" theme going lol

[@olivercooksey2243]

Long term project of constructing a watch would make my month

[@ShadowMajick]

Very interesting. Was unaware of the history (or perhaps lack thereof) of this mechanism. I see a lot of suggestion of using this to power a car wheel, but I'm curious of the implication of powering a walker. Much like the Strandbeest, converting rotational movement into a walking motion. Could potentially even be survival viable as this could be powered by a controller. And now I think I have a project!

[@karremania]

The filmversion is specific called 'malta cross', a adeptation of the geneva mechanism, patented by Thomas Armat in 1895.The odd thing is that everyone just refer to 'watchmakers in the 17th/18th century', at the end of the line its most a story of who patented it and became the known person (like the original photograph etc), dispite there were more people before that time coming up with the idea. If you search on those, with oppositite lock mechanism, you can find a version without the circular center bit to lock it, but a opposite pin that slides in the moment the rotator pin comes out, locking it in place for the duration. Scrap Mechanic wise, that should work.

[@RogueAero]

The fact that you can use wedges to make an actual ratcheting mechanism is amazing and give me some ideas fo when I get a new PC and hop back into my survival world.

[@owenkotal8805]

@ScrapMan you should do it again but with 8 "channels", using the 1x1 wedge block in an 8 sided star pattern. You could probably get a lot more interesting movement patterns as you could have up to 8 pins, and it would be a cool follow up working it into a spud gun or something (or maybe a walker with an interesting movement mechanism?)

[@rarepepe6197]

Really enjoying these recent invention videos

[@Heyec]

Concave curve capabilities creates countless captivating creative contraptions, cautiously curated.

[@robinkesterlives]

I am most certainly finding these recent sciencey videos very pleasing.

[@_Ordinace_]

I think an interesting thing to try, although hard would be a horizontal helicopter, its blades spin like wheels on a car and their angle changes so it always produces upwards lift, then by changing the angles of the blades you can make it fly forwards or backwards and also add tank steering

[@markkovachev]

Helo scrapman I have an idea that I think is only doable in trailmakers A plane which moves left and right on its one wing to turn.Noted: the wing must stay stationary for the most part.

[@TazerLazer05]

You could also try to build a model of a single piston dual overhead cam engine to show mechanics like the opening and closing of valves with the camshaft in Scrap Mechanic.

[@gianniskalogeropoulos8150]

You can put the drive pipes on bearings so they dont produce so much resistance, and create the circular pipe thingy you had in the start also with bearings under the pipes. That should solve all stability problems.

[@Burschlag]

2:29 My Kinematics of Machinery course in college used similar software called dynacam and linkages to help with visualizing mechanisms. I might just have to send you my old Kinematics textbook, you'd probably get a kick out of it

[@AgentWest]

Some time ago i needed to design a conveyor that would advance by a certain distance, then pause. A Geneva mechanism was one of the propositions, but i ended up using a Quick Return Mechanism (sometimes known as Whitworth Quick Return Mechanism or Shaper Mechanism). It consists of a rocking arm with a slot; a pin that's connected to a rotating wheel rides in that slot. With one rotation of the wheel the arm rocks to one side, then returns back at a faster speed. Should be a really simple build in SM, nudge nudge wink wink lol

[@Percussius_]

This video perfectly exemplifies your genius. I loved watching, thank you for uploading this one!

[@citruscyanide]

So this is absolutely fascinating. Full props!!

[@theyeetus1428]

If we're staying on the topic of timepiece mechanisms, you could try to make a clock escapement in SM.

[@robertbalazslorincz8218]

Okay now use this to make a RAIL LOCOMOTIVE or CAR. Actually that twitching motion breaking the mechanism could be resolved with a few well-placed wedges. Put the ratchets on a controlled switch that can rotate them 180 degrees.

[@redofredocap3000]

Still remember when I came across this man with a fabulous mustach and it's a daily thing now

[@joenathan3860]

In theory you could build the driven wheel (red one) bigger, but keep the drive wheel (green one) the same size, and use wedge block for a forty five degree angle, you could have eight slots for the driven gear

[@tuxedocat3620]

You should make a working clock with an actual clock mechanism!

[@Jeron-E]

SMGR Build B2 Bomber

[@BobBob-wq1mm]

They are also VERY important in film movie cameras, without them we would never see the past in motion

[@krzysztofkozakiewicz3920]

I love how scrap turned from basically making vehicles models to building scientifically accurate things.

[@anthonyplacek9703]

you should use this as a primary driving mechanism for a puzzle box or maze for you and the guys

[@bubbledrop819]

you could use pistons with timers on those pipe pieces to make the intervals random, maybe if you ever try to build a boss fight that you cant predict

[@supersonic8822]

Best creations should start agin in trailmakes

[@electropulse3490]

ScrapMan's videos are getting educational.

[@reedbunting5745]

You should mess around with the soft body objects in vanilla scrap mechanic that durf made some videos on

[@roningaming8238]

do a multyplayer monday where you all bulid "(geneva like) mechanism" powerd olympic vehicles ( 1 vehicle per contest). #1. race while carrying a tree. #2. latter climb. #3. hey bale gathering.

[@sybil6049]

You should build a do nothing machine, you turn a bar in the middle and lots of little bars move back and forth, narrowly missing each other. It's a simple mechanism but very satisfying.

[@sybil6049]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pprHaGOqh9B3gNE

[@sybil6049]

This is a link to a do nothing machine

[@guts60]

Theoretically this would have been easier in Trailmakers. I actually made a Pentigrade Walker in it

[@johnderat2652]

I think it would've been worst in Trailmakers, the physics in that game are more janky than SM's

[@reddrakus2937]

Physics are more realistic in trailmakers

[@guts60]

@@johnderat2652 Not really. Due to the more realistic physics, the things I build, and I build really complex creations that go exactly to max complexity, tend to work perfectly (other than causing lag). Simple things like this would be easier in Trailmakers, especially since you can make circles

[@kylebryce7]

I think an actual clock/clock-like mechanism would be cool to see in sm (maybe with an offset arm that reaches up with a suspension or piston piece than can go through the middle arm so they don't collide)

[@Vessekx]

You could probably use the massive quarter circle pieces (the cylinder parts of what you use to make the balls) to create a curve large enough to mimic a concave version of it with wedges & pipes.

[@TicketxBooth]

THE RATCHETING MECHANISM!!! 😧🤯 genius!

[@torpidGlory]

obsessed with this website now that you so so much

[@Obe474]

You should try some of the more complex creations that require curves on main assembly

[@GridM0nkey]

This looks like some fantastic hip joints for a walker.....just change the position of the drive pin and you could have it start all feet on the ground but then take incremental steps.

[@EconomyElk]

I love these videos. i stopped watching for a while but these videos making cool irl machines have brought me back. i got an idea what about a ball bearing system?

[@McA_1987]

Loving these videos. Surprised you didn’t try adding in a second mechanism tying into that one to make a mechanical clock with 2or3 hands

[@enoshchauhan3166]

scrapman you should make a weight shftable sail boat in trailmakers

[@leoncaples2947]

Yeah! Historical science!!

[@ninjashinobi1538]

Try the crank and piston mechanism, hope this helps

[@i_forgor7268]

I hope this helps, try the klann linkage mechanism

[@eliasmeyerjakobsen3268]

i just heard the C`s SOO loud in my head when he said "Concave curve" :D

[@Raffeldy]

I read the title, looked at the thumbnail, realized what it was, read the title again and laughed. Genius pun! :D

[@fab13n92]

you could make it a 8 pin by adding diagonal blocks with wedges to make it look good and add more failsafes for slips

[@tropicalvikingcreations]

The comment section over here talking about guns and clock mechanisms, meanwhile I'm here like but can it work as a transmission system for a vehicle though? Or will the transfer mess it up? While typing this I also thought that it might need two of those ratcheting mechanisms to allow it to slip and keep momentum but then still apply torque, if anyone wants to try to build it. Thanks for trying and showing this one Scrapman. Really made me go "HMMMM!!!!!!" Also thanks anonymous clock maker for laying some pretty cool groundwork.

[@redpug5042]

i swear this is what my school's clocks do. They just randomly tick like 10-15 seconds, then stop, then jump another 10-15 seconds, etc.

[@kwatermom]

More star wars please. The Slave 1 whould be a good build day 3

[@matttrain3960]

such a simple concept but so entertaining!

[@theyeetus1428]

A MM where you make cars with this mechanism used to drive the wheels would be funny.

[@derpyaxolotl7683]

14:46 best part of this video

[@sirenheadbutnot]

he has ascended to anti anti gravity

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

scrapman just woke up and chose pain

[@RD-july]

you should try making a working clock with the Geneva mechanism.

[@minerharry]

Wow, that works SO WELL in SM!

[@bagelfox1314]

Major Challenge Scrapman. How about taking the boston dynamics robot. And try to put it into either Trailmakers or Scrap mechanic.

[@kaloyanbg2799]

instead of a circle shaft and a ratchet system i would make a square shaft and have suspension press on the shaft it will allow it to work in both directions

[@obiddy1756]

This has a lot of cool possibilities, I wonder if this could be done with controllers to make a vehicle powered by it. Kind of like piston powered vehicles.

[@besquareorbethere8093]

"We can make it faster without going faster" That confused me for a second, but then I used my brain.

[@ThatOneTechy]

Multiplayer Monday idea: Make a car Using this as the only use of propulsion except that you can only se 2 prongs and have to find if double movement or consistent movement is better, electric engines only No thruster no glitches

[@bear2.089]

I Challenge you to build a CorkScrew Tank

[@DJG4040]

The Geneva mechanism is my favorite mechanism.

[@Ewout761]

Imagine the geneva mechanism in cars, that would be fun lol

[@LORDMM.]

x spins per second is the new way to measure speed lol

[@Frankie_Fish]

That ratchet was a really clever solution!

[@potatoman9654]

Cool video scrapman u should make a Ekranoplan in trailmakers.

[@aytelonne6866]

when i did my version of a Geneva Mechanism, i also made it spring locked but mine is smaller, the 2 parts are aligned, not diagonal like yours, and it can go both ways i also made one that move rotate one way because an arm push it on the forward movement but it bends on the way back like a ratchet

[@Orblets]

I really enjoy how that sounds!!! ConCave Curve Capabilities.

[@jumborea_l]

Cool video!