Scrapping Stainless Steel - Identification Tips 304 vs 316 - Scrap Metal Guide

[@sharkscrapper]

A very good stainless discussion. Well presented with just enough geekiness. 😂🤣 Important to NOT confuse ferritic and frenetic.

[@thubprint]

Lol! Scrapping can get frenetic sometimes 😆

[@mollynakamori]

"Quantum McMagical!" Love it. I have always been flummoxed by how something made of iron and nickel isn't magnetic. Thanks for sorting that out, Thub! These just get better and better.

[@thubprint]

I had no idea what I was getting into when I decided to do this one this week lol.

[@mollynakamori]

@@thubprint - Here's a thought: force your all too humble self to set up Patreon, and you can do the detailed geeky stuff so many of us love to your heart's content!

[@thubprint]

😆I’ve been thinking about it, it just feels so weird to ask for more when the likes/comments/shares are what I’m already asking for ykno? But I’m going back to the alleys soon, at least until I think of more good topics 👌

[@gregscoolclips9134]

Bro I love these informative vids.

[@thubprint]

Me too!

[@yardmine]

Great information my dude. Love the dry sense of humor and comedic timing.

[@thubprint]

I had some fun with this one 😊

[@ethanstroyan622]

This is some great info. Unfortunately most scrap yards don’t buy metal as stainless unless it’s nonmagnetic. Or they buy it as less because they have to analyze each piece

[@thubprint]

Yeah it’s cool to know but at the end of the day they’ll probably just put the non magnetic in the tin shred

[@marcrochefort4483]

Is that why on a stainless steel sink, where they had to bend it at the drain, it turns from non mag. to magnetic? I always cut it out to avoid the dreaded dirty stainless price. Because of the bend?

[@thubprint]

Exactly! The scrap value remains but because it was cold-formed into that shape the crystal structure has altered into a magnetic form.

[@bud_smokinzie]

Love you Thub! Scrappers for life!

[@thubprint]

4lyyyyfe haha! I don’t think there will ever be a day I see a piece of copper and think anything other than “cha-ching!”

[@Mlacaps]

Another excellent informative video. These style videos are priceless to us out here.

[@thubprint]

And they’re so fun to make!

[@richunclejoey2249]

Monel, 17/4, hast a, hast b, c Monel, 210, 304, 316, 516, HT, don't forget ones with titanium and cobalt alloys. So many types of stainless. I unfortunately work with stainless all day. It's a heavy SOB. Cheers

[@twbishop]

@3:24 @5:47 @6:13 to diversify matters more, nickel is magnetic, like iron. chromium is not. the percentages of nickel and chromium are variable @3:49 (but i believe have specified ratios in 304 and 316).

[@RHYGAR1]

thanks my Brother.you have no idea how much this video, and all your other videos have taught me...

[@JasonBristow2003]

I found a 40 LB piece of stamped 316 stainless steel c channel that had been cut up and welded together. The welds are non magnetic. Do the welds make it stainless breakage? Thanks.

[@thubprint]

It would depend on what your yard says ofc but the welds will be such a small overall percentage there should be a yard somewhere who buys it as 316. The welds will always be magnetic, that’s normal.

[@florinbalan5153]

Nope if the welds are made with fluxedcorre wire they mandatory must be as the same with welded pices .if the ss is 316 the wire must be the same.

[@thubprint]

@@florinbalan5153 huh.. that’s why I love these videos, I learn so much more than I would on my own! Thanks for adding that 👍

[@JasonBristow2003]

​@@florinbalan5153 Thanks. I had never scrapped a piece of stainless with welds on it before. Your explanation was a great help.

[@florinbalan5153]

👍👍

[@riverboat28]

Thanks for all your videos bro. Addicting personalities suck.

[@chrism-qk8jm]

Hate when asked to like and never do, but w your play dough foresight you get my thumbs up

[@jaredwix5454]

Was wondering about the magnet test . cool

[@thubprint]

I thought it was gonna be a lot simpler than that lol

[@geofft3214]

Cool! Have a shiny day!

[@thubprint]

Oh you too good buddy 😋

[@gussuperman7565]

M8 that was an educational video , thank you. Althougj 400 series which is severely magnetic type of stainless used in cutlery , knives or bowls, etc is not considered 304 ss , so there is a gap in your presentation . You may want to inform that to your viewers. I applaud your efforts and hard work that shows you care for the inviroment , cheers m8. Your star trek shirt is a cool sign of a good man. Keep up the good work. God bless.

[@thubprint]

Thanks for pointing that out! I have only encountered a little 400 series, I thought I remembered it being a light pull but that makes sense. I would have liked to have a lot of material to use as examples but I’ve been keeping the space as cleared out as I can.

[@gussuperman7565]

@@thubprint M8 you're my Canadian hero ay

[@chrisbolen9357]

the scrapyard i work at has an XRF analyzer. very neat tool to use

[@thubprint]

I wish I owned one, but they sure ain’t cheap!

[@bob_frazier]

I found a giant rocket ship in the Indian Ocean, thinking it might just be stainless steel!

[@superjonboy873]

As a fellow (occasional) scrapper, I may not be quite the Man of Steel you are, but Your videos are Super!

[@thubprint]

😆 thank you!

[@vthelastrun3290]

Thanks bro for the video! i actually come a lot of stailess steel items specialy kichen sinks and its good price for them about 4 or 5 GBP each

[@thubprint]

I love the sinks, they’re one of the easiest sources of decent scrap money 👍

[@freedomforall1602]

Thanks for the information

[@benjaminarmstrong7047]

I went through this today at my "very" local scrap yard. A big old piece of restaurant equipment was magnetic so instead of 50 cents a pound it's 8.5 cents a pound. I get that they need a way for them to train a worker in 5 minutes or less how to sort metals, so I'll look around for a yard that's more fine tuned.

[@thubprint]

Ooo, yeah I’ve found most of them are just like that, only buy things as stainless if it’s nonmagnetic. Honestly stainless can be such a pain but I hold out and drive around until I find someone who will properly identify it. I recently had a couple hundred pounds of 410, most yards only offered 12c/lb even after they identified the 12% chromium with an electron gun. Eventually one of them agreed to buy it for the 304 price, but I’d be stuck if I didn’t have a few different places nearby

[@SollersScrappingandDiving]

Really cool info for a micro scrapping woman like me! Awesome, thank you 🙂👍

[@thubprint]

Heck yeah!

[@ScoutsIX3]

I usually just stick to the easy to ID copper, brass, and aluminum because stainless is so variable XD great video though, very informative and easy to understand!

[@thubprint]

Thank you! I was doing the same, but the stainless really is good money. You might not find it all the time but if you just keep a bin of the non-magnetic stuff it’s easy to sell and the price and weight are great.

[@pkneeyahx]

Thubprint... Check out the latest cbc marketplace video about car recall fails. At 16:09 in the video they interview a guy from Edmonton. Is that your neighbourhood? It looks familiar to one of the neighbourhoods that you trash pick in. Just an observation.

[@thubprint]

I’m not in Edmonton, but it’s close enough I’ve thought about doing some picking there!

[@marcuvsc]

I haven't seen anything on stainless steel forks, knives, spoons, etc. Seem to have a very strong pull, but stamped stainless. Thoughts?

[@thubprint]

Stainless becomes magnetic when machined or stamped, but if it’s really strong it could of been 400 series or 200 series. I’m not sure which they’d choose for flatware but I’ve never had enough at one time to worry about it. I just put the couple pieces I have in the stainless bin and haven’t had a problem yet

[@marcuvsc]

@thubprint Appreciate the response. I ended up calling the yard I plan to go to and they confirmed I can put it in the 304 pile. I buy storage units and get a ton of scrap that I'd never dream of using or selling. Thanks again, keep up the great videos.

[@davidrosaschi342]

Hey so I am doing my capstone on the chemistry behind metallurgy, and was wondering if you could send me some of the sources you used to do your research for this video?

[@thubprint]

I wish I could, but I don’t really have a list of sources 😅 I googled the heck out of it for days and compared manufacturers websites, research papers, Wikipedia, forums and youtube vids to confirm some things and explore others. It wasn’t exactly true to the scientific method!

[@newsweathertraffic18]

So basically scrap yards only buy 304 and 316 (The non-magnetic alloys) right? I brought about 20lbs of forks and knives stamped "Stainless Steel" to my local yard and they told me weren't stainless because they were magnetic, when I got home it occurred to me that most SS is magnetic. Looking at their website I'm pretty sure they only buy 304 or 316.

[@alyssacatanese7222]

Do you have any idea what turbine blades are made of ,the king that comes out of the big mills.i heard it has a high priced metal mixed with a magnetic metal to keep it from breaking and shattering

[@thubprint]

Interesting… I assume it has to be lightweight to minimize resistance, so if not aluminium like in an air conditioner, maybe titanium?

[@michaelsilva7085]

Awesome. Thanks!

[@ProjectShopFl]

Great video. The scrap yard I go to has one of those metal guns, some are like $30k. lol

[@thubprint]

Mine too! I’d love to have one for use in videos but that just doesn’t seem like a valuable investment at my level lol

[@SharilIrene]

What would “stellite” be categorized as and does it have any scrap value?

[@ff7sephiroth333]

Stellite is a cobalt alloy that is worth good money. Sell it to a yard with a handheld xrf that will pay you fair value.

[@bucketstwoohsixkness2466]

Hay bro bro keep up the great work your videos are very informative and much appreciated thank u much love and respect

[@thubprint]

Thanks so much!! I’m doing my best, and really enjoying these style vids

[@vthelastrun3290]

Hello thubprint i wanted to ask you in your opinion what items is worth taking apart to make the most of your money, i been scraping for couple months now found a house hold boiler once took it apart and made about 25 GBP (35 USD) worth of brass and copper was very suprised actually, but other items im not sure if it worth a time to take it apart coz i rather coutinue driving to find more scrap metal than wasting my time to take something apart for a full hour and only make 5 dollars out of it. I got 3,5 t van and im collecting everything thats metal hope you can give me couple tips here thanks.

[@BinneReitsma]

Mind you, even 316 does rust like hell after a couple of years as a fire exhaust. When I looked at it I thought for sure it was just steel (that rusted and crusty) , then I put my xrf analyser on it and it turned out to be 316.

[@ScrapRushUK]

Fan from the uk, love your vids so good for new starters in scrapping. Where did the term pandas come from?

[@livvyweimar7362]

It's short for Trash Pandas which is something we call raccoons because they are always digging in our curbside trash bins.

[@DavidGS66]

Stainless USUALLY is slightly magnetic, so if you tie a magnet to a string, it will stick to most stainless steel. Al & pot metal are 100% non magnetic, so good way to separate Al, stainless, & pot metal because stainless & pot metal is both very dense. A lot of sink parts mimic stainless. Scratching will reveal yellow brass & hammering will reveal brittle die cast because stainless is very tough when hammered.

[@jamestravers9864]

Do scrap yards test for 316 stainless? Or do they just mark it all as 304?

[@jamestravers9864]

@Pickle since I posted this I’ve taken one item in as 316 stainless, it was right before the big drop off and stainless was still over 50c lb. It was a very large industrial cooking table and it weighed 932 on the scale. Almost 500 dollar pay day for a cooking table that I tried to resell during Covid and nobody wanted it.

[@jamestravers9864]

@Pickle kinda hurt me because the table was worth 20,000 brand new but Atleast I got half a months rent out of it

[@absolute___zero]

@@jamestravers9864 congratulations, you have given 3500 USD of pure chromium and nickel for 500 dollars, almost 7 times less than it is worth at trading exchanges

[@Eaglemadhatter]

I have a clothes rack and a display case I swear are stainless but magnet sticks. Learning is hard when your old 😅

[@kevink.2719]

Great video

[@thubprint]

Thank you!

[@donvergasmotola8123]

Bro How can I know the difference between difference between dirtyaluminum or I breastaluminum From Nikle

[@simplyme8753]

In 1919 Elwood Haynes patented martensitic stainless steel in my home town in Indiana

[@thubprint]

Cool!

[@thebestmatthewschannel]

Hello there do you remember Evanston? That garage sail you came to? With that family that one little boy if you remember was me! I think you brought us glasses for the solar eclipse Idk about that one tho but you gave us stickers which i might still have i hope you remember!!

[@thebestmatthewschannel]

Also you bought a wii off us lol

[@thubprint]

@@thebestmatthewschannel I absolutely remember! 😎✌️ that was quite an unusual day, and it was really fun to meet you all! Hope your family has been well despite the weird year 💙

[@thebestmatthewschannel]

@@thubprint we have been well we moved from there and are enjoying the new year so far it was so cool to meet you guys in person I wish you the best of luck in life

[@thubprint]

@@thebestmatthewschannel that’s so kind of you, you too!! 😊

[@thesolevlogger6363]

I’ve been watching for years and I wanted to comment on your most recent video what is that black and red suit you wear and where would I find one in the northeast u.s. love the content keep it up

[@thubprint]

Well thanks for saying hi! That’s definitely my most worn piece of clothing, I don’t know exactly where someone would get one because I found it at a thrift shop. It’s just a simple mechanics jumpsuit though, it’s not a particularly high quality one.

[@zartan7779]

My yard only buys non magnetic stainless steel , other wise goes in light iron pile

[@thubprint]

As with most, unfortunately.

[@florinbalan5153]

I work in a naval shipyard and almost every day i work with ss and common grades i use is 316l and 304 ss from round pipes ,angle bars to 40 mm sheet . Even the weldability and grinding of witch tipe of ss is different .i know it from the sparks

[@thubprint]

That’s what I’ve learned too, the sparks actually tell you everything once you know what to look for. I just didn’t have examples and to be honest I don’t have the experience yet either.

[@danieljohnson8855]

When are you going back to scrapings

[@auderitepenguin9350]

he will probably go back to scrapping when its not so cold out as well as i assume when he gets rid of that car that takes up a bit of space

[@thubprint]

Yep! I honestly wish I was out there while it’s still cold, it’s fun when everything is crispy. But my plan is to clear off the biggest projects (the car being the main one, which is nearly done) and also finish my list of these videos so I can exclusively do scrapping/treasure hunting. The plan is to hit that point before February is over 👍

[@nomadsteve5297]

Thanks, you have answered my question

[@thubprint]

Glad to hear it! Researching for this one was pretty fun.

[@jackhartfelder8049]

Love these videos. Thanks

[@thubprint]

And I love making them! This one went a bit out of my depth, but I enjoyed learning new things ✌️

[@vinecat8451]

A shame there isn’t an easy way to ID (that’s cheap), but so many thanks for the informative vid dude!!😁

[@thubprint]

It is a pain but ultimately it doesn’t make a difference if the scrapyard is only buying it as 304/316/plain steel right? Was interesting to learn what’s going on with it though

[@laurabennettyoutube]

The background music is very nice.

[@williammickle9947]

I need a +1 cloak of poison resistance for when I do the thing with fermented grapes.

[@thubprint]

😆

[@vanshgrover4614]

Spark test between 304 and 316 steel

[@dca1004]

Great informative video do a video about aluminum or copper next.

[@thubprint]

I actually started with those ones! Aluminium: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYiadHV5pd1og9U Copper: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYOnhICml9CYobs I think I’ve gotten better at making videos lately but these are still solid 👌

[@TheUltimateRecycler]

Impressive presentation Thub! I still reckon you need a white lab coat for these type of vids! 😉😂

[@thubprint]

Aw, but I like my reverse-star trek covvies! 😆

[@TheUltimateRecycler]

@@thubprint 🤣🤣

[@julieb.2868]

The BBC needs to hire you for reporting

[@thubprint]

I have been really enjoying this style of video, maybe I should give them a call? 😄

[@seanl.7088]

great video!

[@thubprint]

Thank you! I was worried it might be TMI, but I wondered about it for years so... there it is! The real answer! 😁

[@dr.a006]

If I can shake the magnet off easily or it doesn’t stick at all, it’s all stainless for my yard. They don’t sort that. Even screws that don’t stick or they shake off the magnet easily all go on the same bin. It’s heavy and adds up quicker than aluminum for the same volume and price. The ferrous or stronger magnetic type they give me tin prices.

[@thubprint]

Yeah, I think that’s how most yards would treat it as well. It was interesting to me to explore though 😊

[@moisesbeltran2612]

How much to scrap a Tesla Cyber truck?

[@thubprint]

How Much is a Scrapped Cybertruck Worth in Scrap Metal? kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYW5nmB5a9iXitE

[@vinecat8451]

I’m gonna be honest, I’m a total metallurgy geek and I’d honestly LOVE a vid of the quantum mcmagic sciency stuffs😂

[@thubprint]

I was happy to skim over that part because it took so much time already to digest the massive amount of info out there on steel types and crystal structures 😅 It was pretty cool to research, but I have a lot to learn about energy levels etc before I could digest it all and explain it in a fun and simple way!

[@tiggidyty]

I don't see that boogie, nice job editing.

[@thubprint]

😂🤣 thx bud

[@helfarkmar5043]

keep up the good vids :)

[@thubprint]

Thanks!

[@BBBA_]

Bicycle spokes are sometimes made of SS.

[@jerryjennyc5352]

Hey thub

[@thubprint]

Hiya!

[@cdcVintage]

Hey buddy! You got me hooked. I didn't understand a thing you said. But you could make a video eating a bag of cheetos and I would still watch. Going to share this with my 3 facebook friends LMAOOOOO. 👍

[@thubprint]

I will not make an eating cheetos video but I appreciate the sentiment! 😆 thanks buddy 👍

[@paulcoenen7918]

I would just like to be able to tell then sheet aluminum from thin sheet stainless without firing up a grinder in my apartment.

[@dr.a006]

If it’s thinner stuff, I’ve found aluminum is easy to cut a notch into with wire cutters and it’s lighter. Stainless is super hard to cut or tear with snips. I’ve had to double check with a grinder sometimes though.

[@thubprint]

Yeah, just try to scratch it with a key or something brass. Softer than steel but harder than aluminium.

[@eba44]

The glasses make your brain look bigger... (LOL) Thanks for the info. Now I know how to handle to amazing modern bathroom hardware-- and the pile of stainless knives.

[@thubprint]

Thank you! 🤓 I’ve been really surprised with how much I’ve made from stainless, it adds up really quickly for me

[@mevk1]

No yard has ever given me a premium. Wasting your time.

[@shaystern2453]

now it's more confusing

[@timtima724]

thank i think i got scammed scrapping today, had 700+ pounds of stainless, only got a quarter a pound

[@thubprint]

Maybe, I’m not sure what your yard usually pays but they may have downgraded it if it was lots of dirty pieces? Hard to say

[@riverboat28]

Scrap yards are pissed off at you. Good!

[@NeryElsalvador]

Gracias 🫂

[@mehowshorts]

👍👍

[@margaritagalarza3233]

well well how are you? LONG TIE NO SEE

[@thubprint]

Ohhh I’ve been here the whole time 😊

[@livvyweimar7362]

Not quantum mechanics...but I love quantum mechanics. I'm so sad now 😭😭😭

[@thubprint]

QM is super cool but it would be difficult for me to explain it easily and quickly haha! I’m fairly sure what affects magnetism in ferritic vs austenitic is quantum mechanical in nature though, because it’s not simply about the number of electrons but how they change in energy levels and shells.

[@muriaticacid7004]

Thumbs Up

[@sydneyfizzy4559]

I feel like I’m in science class rn

[@thubprint]

No talking in class miss Fizzy!

[@sydneyfizzy4559]

@@thubprint sorry Mr. Print

[@vincedibona4687]

+1 poison resistant Classic.

[@hunterbiden001]

what the fuck is a panda

[@pkneeyahx]

I hit my scrapyard today and was SHOCKED at the price of copper. $3.50/lb for bare bright. I was expecting $3.20. wow... Time to strip my hoard. See you in a couple of days. Lol

[@thubprint]

Fr? I didn’t realize it was so decent right now!

[@pkneeyahx]

@@thubprint yes.. everything is up. I go to Cash for Trash here in Ottawa. They always have competitive prices in this area. Copper #1 still at 3.50. Brass = $1.85.

[@gregscoolclips9134]

1st let's go

[@adzikten788]

swietny film ! pozdrawiam

[@Khodazmoon]

👍👍

[@thubprint]

😆