Will it Start?? | 1944 Cleveland 2 Stroke Generator Revival!

After dragging home a 1944 Cleveland 3-268A Engine in our last video, lets try and get it running!! This engine proves to be very troublesome compared to most recoveries! Can we get it started? Stay tuned and find out!
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[@2StrokeDriptroit]

Sam, the “intake manifold” is an Intake PLENUM. Sounds like it is only firing on cylinder. So it is likely either 2 injectors aren’t squirting, or 2 cylinders are low on compression from stuck rings and/or rusty valve seat faces. So you need to do a little sleuthing. Don’t stop now, because it WANTS TO RUN!! These are beautiful engine! And yes, the Cleveland and EMD engines are all welded steel blocks. The cylinders are “power packs” with the individual cylinders having water jackets as part of them the sleeves have grooves for big snap rings that the skirts sit so sleeve, piston and rod come out as an assembly. Beautiful design. These engines are National Treasures! The EMD also came in 645 and 710 cubic inches per cylinder. These have low power for size to be able to run at indefinite full rated horse power without failure. Your diesel truck engine cannot do that. These have a 100% duty cycle at stated horsepower. And yes, they were beautifully made with the very best materials. GM diesels literally won the war! This one NEEDS to be preserved in running order. Once you get it running, cooling system etc, you will fall in love and cherish it! I live and breathe 2 strokes! Remember, this is a 1944 engine and is damn near 100 years old! Great work so far! Matt at Diesel Creek is gonna be jealous! Lol 😆 Cheers! OH-my name is Rick Delair, by the way! 😋👍🏻

[@edwardpoirier7327]

We used these things in the Canadian navy until about 1999 or so. They were 6-268A 200 KW generator sets used on Destroyers built in the 50s and 60s. Also, there were three 3-268A 100KW generator sets at Fleet School Engineering School for classroom training.

[@goosenotmaverick1156]

I think thats an often overlooked part of horsepower ratings for gensets. Or at least i often see folks talking about how "low" some of the ratings are. But the ratings are just done a bit differently. Fascinating stuff as an engine nerd.

[@Blake4625kHz]

@2stroke… i get all giddy at comments like this😆

[@kostadinpantev]

Maybe cut back on breathing them a bit? Can't imagine it being too healthy. :)

[@jlo13800]

@@logicthought24yes

[@kirk467]

I used to do welding maintenance on sea tugs and most of the engine components and strainers were usually brass or stainless! I guess because of the salt water cooling system they used! Those engines, you should see those Sam! They were 20 cylinder engines and they were almost 20 feet long and those tugboats had two or them running twin screws! Those propellers were 12 foot in diameter and stainless steel! Those sea going tugs carried 180,000 gallons of diesel but the maximum was 200,000 gallons! They sat so low in the water when full! But they had a three day trip down to the Caribbean to Hati and Puerto Rico! The barges were 720 feet long and I think a little over 100 feet wide carrying eighteen wheeler trailers! But it was a rough job! Did that for a little over 13 years! Lots of hard work and long hours out there! That’s what killed my body! Retired after 38 years and now watching yall and Utube! I think you and Matt would enjoy seeing those tugboat engines! Talk about loud and tons of power!

[@guytech7310]

180,000 gallons times $4\gallon = $720,000! That's a lot to filler up!

[@theodorgiosan2570]

Where I used to live there was a small power plant that used two diesel engines from a ship. I got a tour once from the engineer. So sometimes they were reused for different purposes as well mainly power generation.

[@charlenegoskowicz8220]

I remember Dad talking about taking on 24 hour shift to load petroleum barges. I know that's what cost him his hearing. He didn't talk much about the tugs, but I know that he knew Tenneco's J.R. Ferguson end to end. Wildntimes!

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

@@theodorgiosan2570 As WW1 reparations U Boat engines were distributed to Allied nations. New Zealand got some 20 cylinder U Boat engines and used them at the hydro dams as backup power if a turbine went out in an emergency.... Those engines were still there in 1970 when I visited on a tour....

[@dadbain]

Can you hear anything without your hearing aids turned up to high or do you need cochlear implants for audio.🎅👴 How have you survived so long after breathing the diesel exhaust and blow-by fumes? Not to mention being covered in engine oil and bunker fuel. You'd make a research scientist and oncologist busy with your living tissues. All humour aside I hope you're enjoying your retirement years in relatively good health as I do.

[@mikejackman4416]

There goes my morning both Sam and Matt at same time

[@julianharman8775]

Exactly my thoughts too except i had a medical and meet my girl for som fun😉 but now im home and free just finished dc time for scrappy inc

[@jnic2003]

And Jesse Muller and farm craft 101 yesterday

[@not-pc6937]

Same 😂😂

[@Brad_The_Truckie]

Yeah glad they didn’t both go the auction theme, makes for a better one two hit

[@MattjODOIN]

Yup....

[@carwashadamcooper1538]

I did a little research on this beauty, and what I've been able to find is this: It's a naval Auxiliary Power Unit (emergency generator) to supply both DC And AC current in case of main systems failure. It was super critical because it ran targeting systems, Radar, pumps, lighting, emergency maneuvering, ECT. Basically everything you'd want to keep working in an bad situation. That's why it's so massively overbuilt and with very expensive parts. There were usually multiple units per vessel, each tied into the ship's main systems through transfer switch gear and diversion valves for oiling, cooling and fuel. I think you need better fuel pressure and a lot more amps to get her spinning up, but with about twice what you've been using she'll light off.

[@breider1116]

Good job young man. You got her rocking and rolling!😊

[@chubbysumo2230]

shipboard battery would likely be 48v, or higher. also, the fuel would be much higher in sulfur content, and likely pre-heated bunker/heavy oil fuel. its a lower compression engine too because of that.

[@UQRXD]

We had two of them on our ocean going tug. Very well built engine. One of the engines dropped a valve and punched a hole in the piston and still stayed running fine till we shut it down. Both were powering 850 amp generators.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

What voltage/amperage was the electric starter....or was it air start on the tugs?

[@jlo13800]

A few gallons ok klotz 2 stroke oil and shell will be fine

[@jlo13800]

Making a tractor pulling 2 stroke out of these with a huge turbo and intercooler

[@SammyFender]

Yesterday I watch Clint @ C&C Equipment instal a 12000 lb lift in cargo shorts and Crocs. Today? Sam in pajamas?? What’s next? Matt in swimming trunks and flip flops?? Amazing

[@gullreefclub]

I work at a fabrication shop and one of the welders wore a wife beater, and scrubs, and dime store style flip-flops. I admit I have TIG welded wearing shorts, t-shirt, and Birkenstock clogs but that guy would MIG, and Stick weld as well as air arc gouge and constantly set himself on fire and all he would say was damn and keep working

[@MattjODOIN]

Oh the humanity!

[@Lnmwr]

🤣

[@davereid3708]

Yes good to see Sam in his pajamas .I did a lot of mechanical work at night!

[@robpeters5204]

And most of you guys were poking fun at the Indian and Pakistani people!

[@TomL3grandsons]

Watching you and Diesel Creek on Saturday mornings is as good as when I was a little kid watching Bugs Bunny Cartoons.

[@barrysimmons5489]

Ehhh What's up Doc? 👍

[@markpashia7067]

Bugs and Yosemite Sam, and Rin Tin Tin all followed by Sky King!!!

[@beakittelscherz5419]

Naaa.. 12 o'clock: Sendung mit der Maus! and the Peanuts. And the Muppets😎😁

[@TheDrewCharles]

😂

[@steveskouson9620]

Bugs and the Roadrunner show. Liked it enough, that I bought a '70 Roadrunner. Oh, I DO ride a 2 stroke 2 cylinder Yamaha RD400. Only my sixth RD. Also, I spent 300 dollars on a wrecked RZ, with a good engine. Engine went into my 79 Daytona. steve

[@roberthooper2242]

Think of the designers, engineers, and draftsmen, that worked on these engines. No calculators,computers, cad, or cnc and built something as beautiful as this engine.

[@benholroyd5221]

Technically they did have computers. It's just that the computers were people. With calculators, and slide rules

[@ricksmith4736]

I say that when I look at Merlin and Griffin RR Aero engines.....

[@jlo13800]

@@roberthooper2242 The cad was their minds along with elbow cnc!

[@henkweurding3339]

So close... Love your care of industrial monuments and this engine is one of them. In the next 100 years they will be grateful that a guy called scrappy industries preserved this engine.

[@DouglasStooge]

You call that preserving? Care? not even close too!

[@jlo13800]

@@DouglasStooge yes this engine are awesome I got an 8v92 stroke and Johnson v8 outboard. I get lots of BRP XD-100 2 stroke oil for both of them at Walmart

[@cableup1]

OK Sam. You got me. I been on the edge of my seat. I thought you made a liar out of me. I always said there's nothing on a Detroit you can't fix with big enough hammer. I failed to include a 10 foot cheater in that analysis. Fortunately the 2 injector validated my original incomplete theory. I'll be more inclusive next time.

[@ScrappyIndustries]

😂😂 I love it

[@wes11bravo]

I work for the telephone company and as recently as 10 years ago, 80% of our medium/small central offices still used old 671 Detroit Diesels for their backup generators.

[@jackbrydges7673]

My dad was a supervisor of a huge mine machine shop and a teenager I spent many winter nights making things and welding stuff.i got into trouble starting the huge surface ore carrier truck the surface foreman caught me and shut that truck off and go home.several Days later there was a rap on the door it was mister Harrison wanting to know if I would come to the mine and show them how to start the truck as the lever under the seat turned off the gas showed him how to start the truck. For years after when he saw me he gave me a great smile that was seventy years ago.they are all gone and that was a great memory .

[@JohnCutright]

Sam love your style and no stop hard work because this is what makes the real world go round not some crap you see on your phone.Less and less people know how hard it is to make something work with your basically your bare hands and problem salving logic .Thanks for reminding that us of that.

[@abduljaleelalashi1022]

I do like the way you explain everything you're doing or going to do while you're doing it, Thank you so much.

[@johnobiro5202]

Sam, for such a young man, you’re knowledge and experience together with your personality makes you an Awesome watch. I absolutely love watching you. You make my day. Keep it up Buddy. 🔧👍🇬🇧

[@jaygraham5407]

Sam had the best teacher ever. His Grandpa was amazing

[@poowg2657]

All of the large locomotive diesel blocks are weldments. They also don't use antifreeze due to coolant encroachment into the oil sump, water only. A large water seperator is part of the oil filtration system. In the winter the whole coolant system has to be drained or the engine has to be kept running. Today most prime movers have temp contolled auto start/stop to prevent freezing while some railroads prefer small coolant heaters powered by a small diesel that heats the coolant by circulating it through the small diesel. On steam locomotives the blowdown is a valve down by the mud ring on the boiler to blow collected debris ( mud) out. Diesel engines use engine air to blow down the mud from the coolant system. EMD 2 cycles came in 567, 645 and 710 models. BTW that's cubic inches per cylinder and the largest ones were V24s. Hope the info helps. Good luck with the old dinosaur, would love to see it run. Thanks much!

[@ryandavis7593]

A couple of corrections. EMD engines have a maximum of twenty cylinders. Not all EMD engines are weldments. The early 567 engines had a a prefix of F or C. Example, C567 verses the 567C. These early prefixes were to designate cast, C, and fabricated, F. The cast blocks stopped being produced sometime during or shortly after WW2. I have personally worked on both styles of early blocks. The easiest way to determine the difference at a glance is the exhaust deck in the V. The cast block is milled square versus the fabricated block has a V shape to it. We do use antifreeze in units that are not used daily. It will do no harm whatsoever. Antifreeze is expensive and will find any defects. At two hundred and fifty gallons the cost can be quite significant not to mention the ecological impact it can have.

[@tombache3426]

The lack of antifreeze-water only is interesting to know.

[@poowg2657]

@@ryandavis7593 Cool info, thanks. EMD trialed a V24 but it was not satisfactory and they settled on the V20 in the SD45 which still suffered from crankshaft whip.

[@pootispiker2866]

@@poowg2657 Part of that was also due to GM's poor quality control at the time which led to misaligned traction alternators.

[@ryandavis7593]

@@pootispiker2866 The main generator is recommended to be realigned about every five years. It wasn’t so much a factory issue as much as misinformation issue. The railroads didn’t want to invest in the time and effort it takes to align things properly. That is a management issue. Several factors for the periodic alignment being necessary are buff forces loosening the bolts and pins on the engine mounts, deflection of the frame, and permanent frame damage. Not to mention any changes made to the unit that could affect alignment. Even a hard joint or grade crossing accident can affect this precision. Time is the biggest factor in alignment. It can take me a week to get all components aligned and I have done dozens of them. My apprentice calls it black magic. An incorrectly aligned generator can make a locomotive bounce or rock. I have worked with a lot of the guys from that period of time and found their methods sloppy and lazy. Precision is king.

[@Jim-np9it]

Beautiful piece of machinery. Thanks for the rescue. GOD BLESS and be safe.

[@landonchurch1]

I worked on EMDs in the military and had the privilege of touring the manufacturing plant. Yes the 567s blocks are welded too.

[@jlo13800]

@@landonchurch1 how about making an OP 1700 Rotax from 2 850’s like a Fairbanks Morse OP 2 stroke! A mini EMD 2000cc 4 cylinder uniflow 2 stroke with reed valve intake and rotary sleeve valve in head! That could fit in a snowmobile

[@sgtbrown4273]

Hang in there you will get the old girl running. On a side note , I worked on a few of these when I was with IR years ago. If memory serves, these had a manual hand pump rather large one capable of up to 50PSI to help prime the units. They were mounted on the skid. I may still even have the old manuals somewhere. 😊

[@RAKINAUS]

That thing sounds like a locomotive! Don't forget it was a Navy engine in a boat on the salty pond, hence the brass and all those overbuilt systems. Good work getting that thing turning! Im sure you will get it running, it will probably power the whole Brownsville show!!

[@jlo13800]

@@RAKINAUS mount some turbos, an intercooler and a common rail on it. Welded steel blocks can take some boost

[@edmctug8800]

THese are rare hard to get parts this is valuable ,meaning sell as whole or parts engine or running engine Kudos !

[@daveyork701]

Man, this brought back so many memories of years past when I started locomotive engines as part of my job! !!BLOWING OUT THE UNIT!!

[@That_ole_Dodge]

That’s one hell of a motor. I hope that you keep it and restore it. What an amazing piece of American history.

[@billdornan4379]

5:25 AM here…great way to start the day! Thanks Sam 🇨🇦🇨🇦

[@lmfarms4611]

The fact that you got it freed up is a miracle in itself! Baby steps. keep trying, so very proud of you. The fact that this motor has sat at that farm all of its care takers life speaks volumes. Great job!!!!!

[@brianpesci]

Good Lord , you and Matt are cut from the same cloth! Talk about thoroughly stubborn and not about to quit until it starts. It's 80 years old, was full of water, boogered up in multiple functions....gotta love you boys, you're all right! better'n tv any day

[@dannaomif1255]

👍 we've all been there, laying in bed, thinking " ill just quickly nip to the workshop and... 2hrs later" haha 🇦🇺 watching from Aus, keep up the great content

[@MrPhotodoc]

I enjoyed the gravity assisted "socket chimes" when the big cheater bar/wrench combo reached it's limit.

[@asarand]

Back then quality mattered more. Durability was a big deal. Things were built to last for a very long time. That has changed drastically since then. Now things are made to wear out faster so they can sell more of them.

[@offshack]

This engine, if built this way to this quality today would be over half a million dollars - no one could afford it for the power it can put out. You could buy 20 Yanmar engines of the same power rating for the same price - and have a new one every 3 years and never have to do repairs and maintenance. The buy in price for things of this high build quality and long life is just too high for todays buyers.

[@captandysir8670]

Rather, think fit for purpose as explained above.

[@Live.Vibe.Lasers]

and we dummies keep buying it. If we stop buying planned obsolesence products..the corporations will shape up. Sadly, I don't think enough people will realize this. But we can hope.

[@mikehunt3222]

It’s called “planned obsolescence”. The lightbulb industry came up with it exactly 100yrs ago this year so they could sell more lightbulbs because they were making them last too long. One of the first lightbulbs ever made is still giving off light in a fire station in California. It’s been on since 1901 and only been off a couple times because of renovation for a week and for a few hours when the backup generator didn’t come on.

[@captandysir8670]

@@mikehunt3222 You missed the point. The was a Navy item, spec'ed for a "must run" application in a marine ship board environment.

[@leandro9311]

Old mechanical tecnology is just amazing, the size of those conecting rods for example !!

[@jlo13800]

Turbo that Cleveland’ 2 strokes live boost

[@bain5872]

You mentioned the build quality of these engines, you must remember that these engines were meant for life or death operation in a saltwater environment. A sustain power out condition meant death and loss of the vessel. This is the reason for all the brass and superb engineering. I have so enjoyed this series of videos. Thank for sharing it with the world.

[@jlo13800]

@@bain5872 that would go in a 73 scorpion stinger snowmobile if it could fit!

[@edwardwestley115]

You also gotta remember that labour was the cheapest part of the manufacturing process back in that time.

[@jlo13800]

@@edwardwestley115 I would give klotz techniplate a tray in a cleveland 2 stroke

[@richardphelan8414]

I love this old engine and it's a two stroke and that really adds to the cool factor . Thank goodness Sam is is such a determined young man to get this engine running

[@jlo13800]

Klotz techniplate or amsoil interceptor 2 stroke syn in her

[@danielgriffith7694]

As a 50+ year as a Journeyman Industrial Machine Repairman. ALL old machines had the same type of filters on them, you just turned the T handle and it scraped off the dirt particles and then you drained them from the bottom of the filter housing.

[@johnwilliams4545]

That thing sounds amazing, I can't wait to hear her run properly, you're doing great work.

[@jlo13800]

@@johnwilliams4545 Do up a common rail with turbo and intercooler for this Cleveland 2 stroke!

[@dieselstink1964]

So close Sam can’t wait to see it purring! I like your drive to get it going! I’m an old diesel mechanic from the Ohio valley now in the flatlands of northwest Ohio and I’m pulling for you !!

[@nkweiner]

Dr. Sam, PhD. Truly a PhD level dissertation on 2 and 4 stroke diesels. Your persistence and knowledge are a master class. So much fun learning from and experiencing your gifts.

[@butziporsche8646]

Old tug I sailed 40 years ago had one as an auxiliary. Pull an injector and make up a fitting for the injector hole and pump it up with a grease gun (a cylinder that is after tdc). Scored scavenge pump housing. I've changed a lot of HPLs over the years. My ship has 7FDMs and I only have to change a pack occasionally.

[@clarencewiles963]

Just a idea put some tempered glass covers on the side so you can watch the crank and rods when it’s running 🏃 PB Blaster is good stuff 😊 You could put a prying bar in the side of the engine on a connecting rod and get it to rotate.

[@ScrappyIndustries]

I like that idea. I have some polycarbonate at work I can cut for that

[@Lawrence1203-f7s]

The complexity is mind boggling. I am amazed you figured out this mechanical puzzle. Some military equipment is designed and built to last. Not necessarly planned obselesene. I was a combat engineer in Vietnam, believe it or not I was assigned to get an old Japanese crane left over from WW II running. I know how you feel. It ran but man did it smoke.Viewed in San Diego.

[@sc1338]

That’s interesting, I love machines

[@aldovazquez3930]

Exelente trabajo.. Saludos desde Argentina.!!!

[@jimdavison4077]

What I love about Sam is he's just a big kid, when the flames came out the exhaust he could not have grinned any bigger.

[@johnmccormick175]

Your knowledge is very impressive,great video thanks for sharing Sam!

[@ScrappyIndustries]

Appreciate you watching!

[@Jarrett17333]

Can't wait to see this old beauty run. Looking forward to the next one one

[@davidlegault9745]

Great video Sam - don't give up. Being a generator of naval persuasion might explain the brass fittings. Scrappy Jammies - new merch??? - LOL..

[@jimw8637]

Your back in my neck of the woods. Military brought me to Boise idaho area but originally from PG County Maryland. Nice to see the rolling hills. Family in fredrick Maryland area. Love your Mack's. Drove a few.

[@mick00000000002]

Happy you guys work together...... ) God bless guys. Mick Australia 🇦🇺

[@DanKiker]

Mighty impressive piece of work. Well done. Crazy fun. Great entertainment for this 74 year old knucklebuster. Cant wait to see future attempts to top this super display of Man Over Machine.

[@michaelpage7691]

Love your night attire work pants. 🤣🤣🤣🇦🇺 Great episode. I just finished watching Diesel Creek. You two are symbiotic in your love for this stuff. 👏👏😁 If it’s anything like the cost of power in Australia you’ll probably use that in the future as it will probably be cheaper.

[@Mike-b3v]

I wanted to say Thank you. My dad was a mill wright and loved anything motor wise. Even bought land to build a workshop away from everyone. Didn’t matter what it was. He would get it running one way or another. It’s nice to see someone who likes doing this also. Shop would fill with smoke and he would say. Smell the money. lol

[@GeorgeKennedy-w9r]

Excelent video. Can't wait to see what happens next

[@kevincollins7911]

The knowledge and understanding just what makes things work at your young age really impresses me plus the drive to keep moving forward you and Matt amaze us Keep the old stuff going ❤. Really enjoy you two. What a team👍👏🇺🇸

[@rayc59]

Another great video. Many thanks from Scotland.

[@fudgea]

I worked on a radar with a 60 foot dish that was driven by a WWII twin five inch hydraulic Navy gun mount. Many of the components were brass. The low pressure gear pump was solid brass. The hydraulic filters were similar to your fuel filters in that, while running, you could change one filter turn the valve to change the other and turn the valve again to run on both.

[@bartholomausallen883]

100 Kw is 136/137 HP depending on what HP you are using (Imperial or Metric). The engine in my car is from the EU where it's 100 Kw, and in the USA it's sold as 136 HP.

[@bartholomausallen883]

And the build plate might be stating Kw output of the total system (from the generator end), meaning gross horsepower in the engine is about 150. That tracks because I see Cleveland Diesel Engine stats online that state it's 150 HP for the 3-cylinder engines.

[@jlo13800]

@@bartholomausallen883 a hyabusa makes 195 hp

[@roman-kk4ug]

Thanks for sharing and the steel block is why they did not have antifreeze.

[@REDBIRD-95]

Sam and Matt uploading videos on a Saturday morning. Which one to watch first? 😁 Have a great weekend my friend👍

[@asarand]

I chose based on length. Sam's video is about a half hour shorter, so I'm watching it first.

[@larrybolhuis1049]

@@asarand I went alphabetical, Matt before Sam. LOL!

[@jimlepeu577]

@@asarand I chose exactly same way lol

[@kirk467]

That engine would be cool painted up and look nice as yard art if nothing else, Sam! But I hope you get the old piece of history running!👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@hunnybunnysheavymetalmusic6542]

I would totally wholesale restore that motor to factory original condition. I would do absolutely a 100% total tear down, front to back, top to bottom and make it just like brand new.

[@AlanBerwix]

Love seeing these Old Iron will it start content. Not many creators have the resources to do these, I'm happy you do. Keep it up.

[@rintin1874]

Great video Sam watching from Edinburgh Scotland UK 🇬🇧

[@Ryan_the_dawg]

Damn man that is an awesome set up you have in that shed, literally everything a bloke could want or need 👌👍

[@kellyswoodyard]

EMD loco engines, unlike G.E. junk, could have cracks in the cases cut out, and a new piece welded in. The EMD line of engines, right through to the awesome 710 series, are a wonder of engineering. They, like Leo Fender with the Telecaster, got it right, first time. Reliable, easy to service and repair. Winner.

[@jlo13800]

@@kellyswoodyard how about an OP Rotax 1700 made from 2 850 etec engines. It would lay down in the MXZ sled chassis

[@OtisDavies-cv6ze]

If you pull the injector on number 1 and pour ATF down the hole, let it sit and block off the exhaust to and pressurize it, it will push ATF past the rings and free it up. I have done this many times on big Detroits that came out of the fields

[@killamacow851]

4:40 those pants, he wasnt lying it was a sunday 💀

[@martynbuzzing3327]

I thought they were his pyjamas..😂

[@bobrat]

Excellent video, you are a determined young man. 👏👏👏

[@FirstSuiGeneris]

I’m impressed. Great job.

[@charlenegoskowicz8220]

Wish Dad were still around to see this. He came up in the industry. Recently passed away at 94. He'd sure be proud of you!

[@ianmckay1780]

Sam, you damn near had her going, well she did run for about 2 revs then cut!! That is why you are so popular, you are a damn good instructor, especially on the two stroke side to understand as a lay man! As for the rest, well, typical content we'd expect from Sam the man. I remember when you helped Matt get his "not run for decades" Cat. eventually you did it! You have the patients to stick with a problem and see it through. With all the work done so far, it just needs to sit and hopefully will bleed through itself. If not, try the old, pressurise the tank trick to force it to. Anyway, loved what you did/ have done so far, and I'm sure you got it coughing again, on it's own. Keep up you struggle bus, you have so many followers that are supporting you, they want to see the conclusion of this, (so do I) see you next week.

[@shanepaynter5591]

That's the perfect foundation for that mad max festival every year. Epic possibilities

[@markbout257]

Well Sam now you're getting in the league of the real engines. This setup of is similar to the EMD stuff on the locomotives and vessels. Those little valves on the cylinder heads are indicator valves and common practice is that you leave them open when the engine is switched off. When you start up the engine first you pre lube the engine with a seperate pump to approx 1,5 bar of pressure then you give the engine a twirl with the fuel rack closed end you check that no water is coming out of the cylinder. Then you close them off and you can start the engine up. So that connection you blocked off could have been the connection to the seperate lube oil pump. This engine would have been connected to a lube oil seperator as I dont see any lube oil filter mounted. Also the indicator valves are used to check on the cylinder health while the engine is running. There is a special device that can be mounted on it so that you can take a pressure reading of the complete power cycle. Also these engines have a fuel priming pump and you need approx about a bar of pressure to get it going. But the most important thing is to prelube the engine before starting. BTW the largest engine in the world is still a 2 stroke engine with a 96 mm bore and a 3m stroke, and out of a 14 cylinder they get more than 100 000hp.

[@jlo13800]

@@markbout257 how about a mini EMD 3 cylinder 2 stroke uniflow with rotary ball valves in heads. 1200cc in the arctic cat riot. Damn if EMD, Detroit and Fairbanks Morse OP made engines for sleds. Take 2 new arctic cat 858 and make a 1716 OP 2 stroke and lay it down in the Riot chassis!

[@markstafford5586]

I’m old, but when I was a kid my dad used to start engines like that and he used a as he called it, a “fire stick”. A rag on a stick soaked in fuel that he set alight and stuffed it into the inlet. like using low plugs. Worked super well on cold days.

[@kingey71]

Hello from Australia. Keep going mate! You'll get there. I want to see this beauty firing.

[@randyclyde4939]

Great fun to watch and learn! I love your attitude and your perception on how and why things should work. Great video, can't wait to hear her run! Stay well, stay safe!

[@KF8OD1]

Wow! I didn't think that was going to free up!

[@jcondon1]

Great video. Cannot wait to see it fire up. That is a very well built machine.

[@dreiback182]

You should look for better ventilation. Remember that CO is also heavier than air…

[@jimanderson4495]

Sam…. I was in the Army from 63-69. What you’re experiencing is typical military built stuff. Great channel. I can’t wait for the next episode!!! Thanks

[@Precisionreelworks]

The old timers who engineered and built that motor could only dream of a cordless Milwaukee impact working on it

[@harveystephens6115]

Great save so far. A God gift for engine repair for sure!

[@hackjobhotrodshop5075]

Just going to taunt us with the new Superliner I see

[@ScrappyIndustries]

Stay tuned!

[@robertschemonia5617]

Yes! That's how EMD engines are built! If they throw a rod out the side, rather than ruining an engine block, the damaged panel can be ACAG'd out and replaced. They were modular before modular engines were a thing.

[@brianhubbard1621]

Go scrappy!

[@joshwoods7654]

Once Matt gets his house built by the shop I don’t know if we’ll even see him working In his pjs but I like your curiosity or motivation for your projects at least the beginning of them

[@bartholomausallen883]

That engine needs an air starter!

[@zackfalgoust3822]

I’ve got like 6 I could give him lol 😂 tryna get rid of them in favor of turbostarts starters because the big 155s? Are just so dam heavy

[@jlo13800]

@@bartholomausallen883 where can I find a pull starter for an EMD 16-645?

[@BrockEakin]

Really enjoyed this video. The overview about how this motor actually works was done very well. Nicely done sir. Great content.

[@johnmclean1046]

Are those flameproof safety pyjamas Sam?

[@keithbarron3654]

3-268A, had 2 years working on 3 of those buggers. Woke up 1 morning to wheezing, blew injector nozzle. They were DC power genie's.

[@gavendb]

EMDs are all welded too. intereseting stuff.

[@TugboatMatt]

That was pretty common on larger engines. Fairbanks are also a welded together block

[@jnic2003]

Yeah I watched an overhaul on a boat. Half the block was lifted suspended by 6 chain falls and they welded up cracks.

[@jlo13800]

@@jnic2003 yes billet steel 4340 CR Mo Ni steel plates since the 40’s!

[@stephensmith1779]

We had two, 6-268A's on the ship I served on as emergency back up generators along with a 10 cylinder opposed piston Fairbanks Morse 500 KW generator. Main power was two 1,000KW steam turbine generators.

[@timh.1300]

Almost had it running

[@terryrogers1025]

You are on the right track as far as I can tell. I like the comment that you made, and I’m paraphrasing, “oh so close, yet so far”, boy have I been there, just stay the course, you will get it running, and it will be a good gen set when you get done, thanks for the update, enjoyed watching.

[@michaelchamberlain4618]

The injector pump screens are probably plugged

[@joemaser9122]

Cleveland.did not have injection pumps just transfer pumps the high pressure side of the system is the unit injectors

[@natecampbell4708]

I do feel for you, dude! You did some great work, & I'm sure with your tenacity, you'll get it squared away soon. Will be looking for the next installment.

[@TravisEvans-o7e]

I'm little old school but my most useful and used tool I use is a small sledge hammer. That shock from the blow works amazing. Try it.

[@renem6441]

That was a master class on two stroke engines!!! Thanks

[@GIGABACHI]

Ohhhh MAN ! SO CLOSE ! Looking forward to the next episode ! Good luck, Sam ! ✊😎👍

[@dadbain]

Detroits love ether, some old time mechanics say they were designed to run on the stuff. Many 71 series engines came with a refillable or replacement pressurized ether bottle attached to the firewall or intake assembly and controlled from the dashboard or throttle control panel, depends on the engine application. The greatest danger was a stuck fuel rack leading to engine runaway but they usually came with a resettable intake air shutoff.

[@richrossi46richmond]

Thanks Sam. Makes great viewing for a hungover Sunday morning in bed in London.

[@davekelley8520]

We use atf on seized parts works well for us also use it on fuel systems high detergent seams to work well

[@OtisDavies-cv6ze]

That block heater is designed to be running before the engine is fired because those big engines are cold blooded. I worked on v-16 diesels for locomotives and ships. That oil port that you capped, it would have gone to a oil centrafuge for cleaning the sludge out of the oil. It was standard equipment aboard naval ships well into the 1990's. I don't know about now, because I discharged in 1994.

[@joerodrigues3816]

Great video mate good luck with your project many thanks for sharing it with us all