Why NAMOR Was Right! (and Will Join Thor Against the Avengers)

[@eduardorossal]

Ryan, as a Mayan descent, I am pretty proud of how you covered our history. The way you cover all sorts of history is well-informed, respectful, and filled with nuance. I'm in grad school and I'm working on a documentary on my people's history of Guatemala. The last couple of years were the first time I learned about the coup attempt in 1950 and the genocide in the 70s through 80s on the Mayans. My father fought in the last war, as well as some of my uncles. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the events. I'm in this place where I would want the US to announce an apology for the coup, but power never seems to be able to bestow itself any humility.

[@dandreguess3108]

I'd love to see that documentary whenever you finish it.

[@superipodmanvik]

🇬🇹

[@ljrmorgan767]

I would love to see your documentary also. Do you have a website where it will be posted?

[@ljrmorgan767]

Also, I think America may never apologize for the coup in Guatemala. If it apologizes for the Guatemalan coup America will have to apologize for the MANY coups, civil wars, etc that it supported in one way or another.

[@gatianousLungu]

Brilliant, I'd like to see it too

[@slospop1125]

Watching this movie, seeing Namor and the rest of the world’s governments planning to go after Wakanda I keep thinking of what Steve said. “Every time somebody tries to win a war before it starts innocent people die.”

[@danknechel4489]

Everytime

[@raydrexler5868]

It always goes back to Steve. I miss him.

[@slospop1125]

@@danknechel4489 Auto Correct, won't let me

[@danknechel4489]

@@slospop1125 oh no no I was just finishing the second part of the quote. He says it twice 😂😂😂

[@nomercyinc6783]

yeah, new asgard has no reason to side with namor. nothing thor related belong in black panther

[@mjolninja9358]

That first encounter with Namor will always feel mythical to me, a strange guy wearing non-wakandan clothing in Wakandan territory just marvels about the stories his mother told him while being half naked without care of possibly getting attacked. His presence alone was thrilling.

[@geogreable]

You made me appreciate the entire film more

[@f.a.v.productionsLLC]

Facts because I did not enjoy the movie

[@iAmSavvi]

@@f.a.v.productionsLLC absolutely

[@yaboyisaac354]

you lack critical thinking skills

[@mannyhowierunn]

Just admit it Ryan. You loved Wakanda Forever and Namor with his people and all their history in it. I appreciate it. I love Namor too

[@kelvinkelca8829]

This comment killed me

[@ErikRicardoLC]

Seems like gringos don't even trying to care about Mayan or even Mexican mythology. This Namor BS is just to milk out the Latino market. We are so glad it just flops, they won't dare to bring out such a massive failure concept to another movie.

[@fernygamer6985]

Namor 👑 and Talokan are amazing

[@Mr713mexican]

And he’s hot

[@buzzardscry1383]

​@@ErikRicardoLCLatinos are white people. Just saying

[@starfire2125]

I'm glad they gave him a nuanced backstory and motivation (and was a little reluctant that it wasn't Atlantis, but setting it in the Yucatan worked well). I mention just for the sake of those who haven't read X-Men, that he's a complex villain because he eventually comes to join that team. And hopefully we see him join a rebooted X-men as well.

[@kayaanbedi5554]

Yessir

[@gatianousLungu]

Actually, I figured namor logically would join the X-Men, makes perfect sense

[@tomgebarowski8156]

Namor has always "played both sides of the fence" in Marvel comics history..sometimes he is good and allied with heroes like The Avengers, Xmen or Fantastic 4. Other times he has been a ruthless ruler & villain. He has always distrusted the surface world, and famously went to war with Wakanda. He is often driven by anger, but Moreno a sense of duty to his people.

[@user-dp7uc3ur9s]

These are so much better than what we actually end up getting from the studios. Don't know how you guys crank out such good material in such short time, but I'm compelled to visit the site every day to see what's new.

[@mon_nobi]

Truly these compounding government focused team up stories would be an awesome return to form for the MCU, and it seems like that is the direction they are going in, but tbh, we still have no real confirmation that this is the direction that Feige and the MCU will go in despite having dropped words like destabilization and referencing Brave New World and teasing Young Avengers. I guess I just don't have faith at this point that the MCU would deliver on anything close to a cohesive multi film narrative as awesome as this sounds. I feel that they might get close to teasing all of this, but since channels like Screencrush already called it, Feige or the individual directors/showrunners will want to change it to something else to maintain some sort of element of surprise, and then those changes result in another Secret Invasion level story where everything is watered down and tame compared to the potential epicness that they set up and could've delivered on. I guess only time will tell!

[@mqpatel786]

😊😊😮.. You

[@Unknown_-bt8uv]

Namor is one of the best characters the MCU has introduced

[@jalenikezeue4114]

Oh Yeah namor is Awesome He means well the protection Of Talokan is All that matters

[@TheMrMan-ELJOrdinoBerg19-xk5ku]

Nope he isn't.

[@sonofthebigguyenemyofcornp4403]

🧢 fake namor

[@cky7765]

​@TheMrMan-ELJOrdinoBerg19-xk5ku yes he is.. f0h

[@garyfrombrooklyn]

I hope the writers of the MCU check out your clips, you make a lot of sense. Wow, adding this to my Geopolitical Playlist, I really enjoy your creativity and analysis.

[@mon_nobi]

Truly these compounding government focused team up stories would be an awesome return to form for the MCU, and it seems like that is the direction they are going in, but tbh, we still have no real confirmation that this is the direction that Feige and the MCU will go in despite having dropped words like destabilization and referencing Brave New World and teasing Young Avengers. I guess I just don't have faith at this point that the MCU would deliver on anything close to a cohesive multi film narrative as awesome as this sounds. I feel that they might get close to teasing all of this, but since channels like Screencrush already called it, Feige or the individual directors/showrunners will want to change it to something else to maintain some sort of element of surprise, and then those changes result in another Secret Invasion level story where everything is watered down and tame compared to the potential epicness that they set up and could've delivered on. I guess only time will tell!

[@xxGothrd]

HE. HAS. WRITERS!!! wake up

[@Sp1990-x8u]

Don't know if this is an unpopular opinion, but i think I think Namor was by far the best thing to come out of phase 4

[@adreday10]

i would also add Shang Chi

[@dellytancyl524]

That's a fact, however unpopular.

[@Emanon...]

The tiny footwings were silly af, though

[@suttonaveritt2070]

@@Emanon... they were a bit goofy i cant lie. but namor was very solid and well casted

[@mr.boogie3631]

@@Emanon... it may be silly but that's how they were in the comics

[@detazathoth1]

As someone with Mayan heritage and whose parents left Guatemala during the genocide of 81-83, thank you Ryan for the nuance explanation. This is why I love this channel and ultimately why I love the depiction of Namor. Thank you

[@angelicaqpg]

Guatemalan here. Namor’s one of my favorite MCU characters and I loved his storyline. Also, I cried seeing Talokan in theaters. It looks like a flourishing empire. ❤🥹

[@NativeTexMexican]

What up cousin??! ❤️✌🏽

[@frankieruiz1555]

Lo siento 😢, es Quiché, Kaqchikel?

[@dizenutzs7057]

And this is why Marvel is declining once include everybody. That version.of Namor hopefully will see the light again

[@xxGothrd]

oh shut up he didnt say anything meaningful and it has nothing to do with actual history this is MOVIE

[@tomgebarowski8156]

Namor is a fascinating Marvel character, I hope we see more of him in upcoming films.

[@olgavarnava7137]

Thank you for sharing this. For me, all Namor’s reasons were obvious and by far justified; so I was surprised that many people called Namor “a weak villain without proper motivation”. I sympathize with him, I admire him as a leader of his nation and I hope we see more of him in the future.

[@angelaalekyan6521]

To me Shuri is much more villain than Namor. I think Namor is in the right

[@danieltowle8783]

The complexity and the morally gray aspects made me love this movie.

[@IceCold_Carter]

Most the villains are always right, from KillMonger to Ultron. The only problem is, they go to “extremes” with their point. Namor was right but he wanted the WRONG ppl dead & wanted a child dead, instead of just finding another way to have her not make the machine.

[@dellytancyl524]

In all fairness, with Riri out of the picture, anyone wanting a vibranium detector would have to start from scratch. Remember, the government didn't bother to take the time to understand how her machine works, they just took her prototype directly into the field. Even Shuri was surprised to see the machine because she also didn't think such a device was possible. so no Riri Williams, no detector. Namor had the right idea, even if the ethics of it is questionable.

[@GodBroly]

Well no Namor wasn't even the villain in the movie for me it was the government and shuri who couldn't deal with her grief and instead let it consume her this movie destroyed shuri as a character and I hate the movie for it.

[@master-of-many-fandoms2020]

Yeah. It’s like Legend of Korra. The villains in the show are ones that bring a good point about the world they live in, but they go to extreme lengths to get to them.

[@Juan_Dominguez]

I mean if Riri dies so does her knowledge keeping his people safe

[@tooslow4065]

@@Juan_Dominguez or he could have found her, told her his story, and asked if she wanted to live with his people. she might have said yes. done. problem solved. but instead....

[@goatelope7539]

Love it. Namur was one of my favorite characters, a dare not say villain, as he was an antagonist by necessity but not a bad guy per se

[@POPIncursions]

He killed Queen Ramonda🥺He’s definitely a villain in WF😥but I like him & Talokan👌😅

[@ERGSEG]

@@POPIncursions He didn't kill her for the fun of it. She indirectly killed two of his citizens after she threatened to expose him to the US. He's not a villain. At best, he's an antagonist.

[@hannahbecker2309]

He is a antihero and antiheroes don't count. Some people can't tell the difference between a pure evil villain and a reform villain and a antihero. Man i feel that some people need to do more research and study more.

[@hannahbecker2309]

​@@POPIncursionsnot being a troll but....... You are 100% wrong. He did not kill her. Read more comics and do more research and pay attention to the movie.

[@Antikid1432-ls2xc]

He is a villain not at best he is still a villain. Keep trying kid.

[@dc2akira]

I really appreciate you all adding so much important context to Wakanda Forever. Keep up the great work and respect to other cultures and history!

[@natedog4872]

Ryan needs to be a writer for Marvel ASAP! He’s knows the story and timeline amazingly for him to plan out a future film 🙌🏼🙌🏼🔥 Shout out to this guy for these videos🤙🏼

[@xxGothrd]

He literally works for a company in the industry he is NOT just a content creator omg wake up!

[@AlMoSiCe210]

I've had Wakanda Forever as my 3rd favorite MCU film since the 4th time I saw it in theaters for these very reasons. Your video wants me to go see it again. I do hope your theory comes true as the MCU NEEDS some sort of connectivity.

[@TheKlownTimes]

Now this was a rather interesting explanation of things. The Young Avengers in Kang Dynasty and the rationale for a secret Avengers movie? That would be DOPE! And I agree with Namor being justified in his beliefs, by the way.

[@jeffreymorris5977]

I could see it happening possibly

[@loushia16]

This opened my eyes to some of the movies' nuances. When Shuri said "This will mean war" I found that statement weird the first time. I thought "You getting kidnapped already meant war was likely. Why are you surprised?" But now that I look back, I see that she wasn't just NOT kidnapped, but she was also genuinely connecting with Namor there. She saw the bigger picture that Riri was involved in and was doing good as a political leader to understand Namor and his people. I also see that this whole mess between Wakanda and Talokan was founded more on a misunderstanding and miscommunication than anything else. I genuinely think that if Shuri had more time and Queen Ramonda understood the situation better, a peaceful solution could've been found. They may have even become genuine allies. But that one misunderstanding regarding Shuri's disappearance led to an absolute cascade of horrible events and, eventually, war.

[@trihermawan9553]

Just like real life

[@joepirapak8520]

Can we talk about how perfect it was that Namor got his name El Niño Sin Amor The boy without love - shortened to Namor Unless that’s from the comics. Give the person who created that a raise

[@iLoveUbeicecream]

Not from the comics (his birth name is Namor), GIVE THAT PERSON ALL THE MONEY!!!

[@renemoreno7907]

Completely respect your opinion but I thought it was a bit iffy tbh. People would hardly go out of their way to call someone the boy without love. They'd call him the devil kid, the freak sea thing, something like that. The sin amor thing might make sense with the name namor but doesn't fully make sense as a nickname/ way to refer to him

[@Spikebert]

The Comic version was named Namor, the guy who created the character just spelled Roman backwards.

[@Danntheman1776]

I thought his name was pronounced Nay-More

[@madhistoryn]

I can't wait to see Tenoch play Namor again. He is my favourite villain

[@johnkiii2187]

I wouldn’t call him a villain.

[@sovitaseng5519]

Anti hero**

[@glennusher4160]

What?

[@henrygambles3652]

He might not though, he’s been accused of sexual assault!

[@madhistoryn]

​@@henrygambles3652​the accuser is a know liar who is seeking public office in Mexico. Check out Feminegra if you don't believe me.

[@filipondrej804]

To clarify, there was no misunderstanding in WW I. The assassination of Francis Ferdinand d'Este was only a pretext for starting the war. For example, Germany has been preparing for such a pretext for a long time.

[@xxGothrd]

And you know this because YOU WERE THERE.

[@filipondrej804]

@@xxGothrd Are you serious. This is elementary school curriculum. Perhaps we pay more attention to this fact in the Czech Republic, because we were ruled by the Habsburgs and we were part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

[@thegoldendarknut]

Namor is not Aztec, he is Mayan

[@jose.peraltabros]

Dude that's the Aztec sun stone. The mayan calendar looks like a bike chain wheel

[@MultiMangoPie]

That idea you just told, is, awesome, I cant wait! I think you are 100% right, and I hope you are, omg if this sequence of events happened It would blow my mind, it is so good.

[@mon_nobi]

Truly these compounding government focused team up stories would be an awesome return to form for the MCU, and it seems like that is the direction they are going in, but tbh, we still have no real confirmation that this is the direction that Feige and the MCU will go in despite having dropped words like destabilization and referencing Brave New World and teasing Young Avengers. I guess I just don't have faith at this point that the MCU would deliver on anything close to a cohesive multi film narrative as awesome as this sounds. I feel that they might get close to teasing all of this, but since channels like Screencrush already called it, Feige or the individual directors/showrunners will want to change it to something else to maintain some sort of element of surprise, and then those changes result in another Secret Invasion level story where everything is watered down and tame compared to the potential epicness that they set up and could've delivered on. I guess only time will tell!

[@andresmith1652]

I’ve learned more about Mayans from this video then school great work

[@MissElora]

Your KZbin channel is absolutely amazing! The content you create is both entertaining and informative,The production quality, creativity, and passion you put into your videos are evident in every frame. keeping me hooked with every video. Keep up the fantastic work, you're doing a fantastic job! 😊👍

[@solvseus]

I've seen this comment on other videos. Sus.

[@xxGothrd]

He's literally part of a COMPANY it's not self made omg wake up

[@Interial-1]

So excited for Loki season 2

[@KitbashCustoms]

Crazy how many people needed this video to appreciate wakanda forever 😭 it was always good

[@8arrows]

The weapon x program knew about vibranium too. Wolverine’s (and other characters) Adamantium is a mix of vibranium, and steel.

[@maskedupdogs]

Adamantium comes from the celestial that didn’t grow on earth

[@raulportela3039]

With the YA about to be formed and with Wakanda needing more heroes, i truly hope they age up Prince Tchalla so he can join in the fight

[@darrellbenjamin3923]

😅😮😮😮😮op

[@jsn_alva]

Or just transfer the black panther too. Shuri is an intelectual and it seems very odd for her as character to be the black panther. Do you know what the original storyline was before Chad passed? It would be interesting to know.

[@MillusWesker]

Great video. Namor is definitely up on current events, in an early draft of the script it is explained Talokan developed their own optic fiber technology, allowing them to intercept outside communications and in the movie, it is also stated he visits the surface every now and then. His actions are indeed based on his experience by having observed humanity destroy and oppress others for hundreds of years. I think the MCU's portrayal of Namor and the potential for exploring the rich cultural lore and complexity surrounding his character provide an exciting opportunity for storytelling and world-building. I can't wait to see what will Namor's next move will be in future movies or even a standalone project of his own.

[@joannadaniels8356]

Even in the movie, the local remaining humans on Yucatan that Shuri speak with appear to know Namor. It would be great to see that Namor had also actually tapped the real-life underwater cables that still connect much of the Internet as it did the landlines.

[@k1ll3rkoala]

This has been my favorite video of yours. I love the breakdown and discussion of the murky waters we're currently in, in the MCU. Also, I've been wondering when the young avengers would show up. I hope you are right.

[@davidblank420]

I have a theory that Howard Stark not only knew about Wakanda but took resources. He had vibranium and I think the super solider serum has some Wakandan flower derivatives in it.

[@jsn_alva]

Makes sense.

[@maskedupdogs]

It’s made from the space stone

[@tytebben]

Between multiverse of madness, the marvels and this This is the best of the first sequel of these movies, I very much loved this movie while the loss of Chadwick was tragic, they honored him by not recasting him and by him having a son is in a way recasting tchalla without recasting Chadwick, WF is severely underrated

[@mrjack8849]

As great as it would be to find out Marvel had secret movies tucked away, I don't think there is anyway they or Disney would hide that. Based on what they have made since Endgame, I sadly don't have high expectations for what is to come. It really sucks that William Hurt passed away. It would have been great to see him in his character arc all the way from Incredible Hulk through Civil War and to the Thunderbolts and beyond. Harrison Ford isn't bad, but it will feel like a disconnect to have a new actor.

[@mon_nobi]

Truly these compounding government focused team up stories would be an awesome return to form for the MCU, and it seems like that is the direction they are going in, but tbh, we still have no real confirmation that this is the direction that Feige and the MCU will go in despite having dropped words like destabilization and referencing Brave New World and teasing Young Avengers. I guess I just don't have faith at this point that the MCU would deliver on anything close to a cohesive multi film narrative as awesome as this sounds. I feel that they might get close to teasing all of this, but since channels like Screencrush already called it, Feige or the individual directors/showrunners will want to change it to something else to maintain some sort of element of surprise, and then those changes result in another Secret Invasion level story where everything is watered down and tame compared to the potential epicness that they set up and could've delivered on. I guess only time will tell!

[@Unknown_-bt8uv]

Yeah they dropped the ball in epic fashion with Secret Invasion the acting was good but they didn't deliver visually or with the storyline it should have been 9 episodes and an hour long it could've been epic like the lone season of watchmen but I do see what it's setting up they just ruined a great story. Loki is the one thing that is maintaining my faith in the MCU

[@teehlfx5238]

Very informative, respectful and nuanced ❤

[@SonStu42]

Just wanted to shout out Doug. Doug is the heart of the channel 🤘🏻

[@joedavis6029]

Oh, I am so onboard with this scenario! Every single aspect you laid out.

[@karencoyle3011]

Man, that's one of the drawbacks of special effect heavy movies that take YEARS to finish and therefore have years and years between installments in a series- I had honestly kind of forgotten Namor even existed, much less what he wants and doesn't want.

[@RashaadGenie]

Same.

[@musicpatron1693]

it wasn't that long ago

[@tomgebarowski8156]

I LOVE your idea/theory of how the governments get shadier, leading to a push for world government by Thunderbolt Ross & Valentina. They all become obsessed w/getting vibranium even if it means war. Namor's old distrust of the surface world leads to him allying with New Asgard & Thor against the latest Avengers team & the Thunderbolts. But low & behold, its The Young Avengers (Kamala, Kate, America, Cassie, Billy) who save the day! Plus Kang tge Conqueror is back! This is brilliant stuff!!! Great job expanding on the MCU's many options now that Namor, Talakon & Wakandan vibranium become such major factors in the MCU. I hope Marvel follows up on your brilliant analysis & plan here! Great job!

[@jbaruman272]

...can we talk about how unsettling a giant dead alien sticking out of the ocean must also be?

[@MediaCastleX]

The entire movie for multiple reasons had me in tears, it's a hard rewatch...

[@CannabaeCG]

That's a fantastic breakdown. Love you guys.

[@FarReachFR]

Having your thoughts on a movie that doesnt even exist, and background not even explored, was actually better content than many of the movies lately. Keep this up!

[@kayaanbedi5554]

Hoping this leads to Namor vs Thor

[@hairypancake4425]

Fish man can’t throw punch around microwave.

[@kayaanbedi5554]

@@hairypancake4425 Thor would have to use this strategy to weaken Namor

[@Swagnationrecords]

@@kayaanbedi5554 at best they're equal strength, but Thor is probably a level or two stronger at least and he has ranged attacks + a weapon capable of chopping him up. Namor is punching slightly above his weight unless the fight is near water

[@baldbull6808]

​@Swagnationrecords It's a little more even in the MCU where Thor isn't as powerful and Namor has a vibranium spear. Namor is portrayed as exceptionally fast and agile compared to even the Black Panther and if they want to introduce some more of his comic powers, Namor also produces electricity so he'd be immune to lightning attacks.

[@kayaanbedi5554]

@baldbull6808 bio-electricity in fact, like an electric eel

[@troubleondemand7703]

Kids In The Hall clips? This channel has everything!

[@douglasruffin7363]

The fact that they gave us a good film , after losing the main star , should be celebrated

[@adriancline-bailey3301]

This is an absolutely AMAZING video!! Well done on setting the history right on the Mayan culture, I never knew some of these things. Mayans and people of color have the exact same history. :(

[@Changamira]

Atlantis is in fact an Ancient Egyptian myth, told to the Greeks. A Kilmonger and Namor 'What if' however, would be insane!

[@takionjose6657]

Yes but the Egyptians did not call it Atlantis, which is a European term created by European greeks😂

[@marlonzogriffin6983]

We all know manor has feelings for shuri

[@yoyomayne]

Was the title supposed to say "Against the Americans" because I dont see the Avengers attacking new Asgard

[@TheInedibleHulk]

Hayward wasn't the villain of WandaVision, Wanda was. He was trying to save a town that she had captured and enslaved.

[@raynelfastination]

And then he tried to kill kids for it :v

[@JohnnyWednesday]

@@raynelfastination - Wanda spent an entire movie trying to kill a kid

[@chriskirby5423]

Both things can be true. Pretty sure Hayward is a villain regardless. And Wanda was considered more of unintentional villain. That changed with DSMOM.. but for WV, she was unaware through most of it that she was hurting people. Hayward wasn't portrayed as a complex character unfortunately but just a military thug IMO

[@Gzilla313]

Hayward manipulated Wanda into creating the Westview Hex so he could steal Vision's soul to activate his Frankenstein project. Hayward is definitely the antagonist of Wandavision.

[@zachryder3150]

@@raynelfastination What kids? The ones enslaved in their bedrooms and the babies who died because their parents were unable to tend to them?

[@pooloftim8263]

The govt has Iron Heart’s machine and can replicate it, killing her would do absolutely NOTHING. It’s hard to understand why the storywriters ignored this fact.

[@kellyjocelyn8471]

They never had the schematic for it because they believe it was a fluke. They tried it and find out it actually worked, but talokan attacked them during this operation

[@drewtombz4737]

fantastic video yall

[@_TheViewer_]

Always good to know that the villainous ones have the truth 😂 HYPED for LOKI !

[@aramiswatkins2501]

I honestly love this channel. The Young Avengers theory blew my mind. More like Avengers dynasty!

[@JasonAndrew1973]

I loved this version of Namor.

[@heaven1189]

Nah Namor should of been Polynesian , Mayans have no real importance in the oceans compared to Polynesians

[@jckholmes9194]

One major flaw here is that Wakanda entering into the limelight exposed his kingdom. The American government was already aware of vibranium because of Tony's father. This was really just Namor wanting to push his responsibility to protect his people on Wakandans. He could have approached them respectfully with a desire to protect each other, but nope, he was basically like do what I say or there will be consequences for Wakanda. Yeah things could have been different if Namor had come at Wakanda with respect from the start.

[@christophermarzett4347]

You just blow my mind! That is a great theory!

[@ryanfry709]

I loved the bit where you went into all the details about thor.

[@lbrett7054]

Could you rewrite the venom movies and morbius?

[@uclanak31]

And let’s give it up to Winston Duke! What an actor!

[@iTuber012]

Killmonger was right too but that video will never be made

[@Koiva232]

I agree. Killmonger's motivation was essentially the same. The only differences are in how they were wrote by the creators. They made sure to give Killmonger several 'bad guy' scenes to avoid too much sympathy from audiences. The message seem to be that he was just a power hungry thug but Namor is portrayed as Noble.

[@iTuber012]

​@@Koiva232T'Challa was a bad king

[@Koiva232]

This video went out of its way to justify all the killing Namor did, so I would say the same should be applied to Killmonger. Also, all of these events are happening because of T'Challa's decision to open up Wakanda - I agree he was a bad king.@@iTuber012

[@douglasbecworth-gilbey7082]

Honestly I really hope you're on the money with this one! That sounds awesome and probably make for a good wrap to phase 6

[@OhCarlJr]

Whatever happen to the actor? Wasn’t he being accused of abuse ? Hope the shit blew over and was nothing cause he was good as Namor..

[@kayaanbedi5554]

He was. I hope he's alright and the accusations against him are false. He was really brilliant as Namor

[@IceCold_Carter]

Like every other good MCU villain/hero that gains popularity. they end up being accused of something

[@andrewmcnamara6305]

According to TV Tropes Namor would be an example of an "Anti-Villain" and a "Well-Intentioned Extremist."

[@isaacguerrerojaimes1850]

Such a delight! Love the deep analysis videos like this. Please create the one analysing the base phylosophy for Starwars original theory: Empire = Pope and organized religion vs Jedi = Jesuits/Templars

[@falcular]

bro. you MURDERED this 🔥

[@OptimusTOM]

Didn't read the comics - but Namor was a hero / villain at times, yes? (more black and white than that, I know)... I feel like we may need a NAMOR IS A GOOD GUY / AVENGER uptick in his character, before then giving us the TWIST, JK HE'S STILL JUST LOOKING OUT FOR HIMSELF moment of starting a war or anything. Wakanda Forever set him up to PLAY BALL... so I think we'll get that BEFORE we get him doing war-ish stuff. Character Development / ebbs and flows, y'all.

[@joannadaniels8356]

He at one point was a participant in in WWII with Bucky among others. It would be interesting to see their MCU counterparts interact. I suspect that the Winter Soldier was also deployed in Latin America. On the other hand, with Bucky's debt and friendship with Wakanda, it would be interesting for him to use his experiences to be bridge.

[@Static1583]

Pretty great film, it’s only downfall was lazy writing in the scenes involving iron heart. Her presence felt contrived and non organic to writing progression and character development.

[@malik6091]

Finally some MCU content 😭

[@thokoZ]

I love this theory quite a lot. It sucks that they want to/have to replace Kang.

[@DarienDennis1]

Sir, as a minority/African American I really really appreciate your attention to the current zeitgeist. As we all enjoy these “stories” I appreciate that you acknowledge current times and colonization, oppression etc. thanks. From my heart I mean that thank you.

[@DrumTeacherManila]

This analysis is way way beyond comics. This is a political commentary, a crash course in real world history, a question to the morality of human beings. In addition to that, you also proved that Captain America made the right decision in Winter Soldier. Team Cap all the way!

[@ghost-type]

I cared more about Namor than I did anything else in this movie. This should have been a Namor movie.

[@toityb]

I am even SOOOOOOOOO happy that you even pronounced Namor correctly! This was a very true story. the way you told the story, was very beautiful. Hopefully there will be a way the two can TRULY come together. BUT, this is Marvel... Who knows...

[@dreemer02]

The movie pronounced it differently. So who is right?

[@Marvelousgamer7697]

That's why I loved him as a villain!

[@hannahbecker2309]

Antihero! Not villain!

[@0mtrebellcyury993]

Talokan is Mayan not Aztec there similar but with slight differences like namor is kukukhan which is the Mayan version of the the Aztec god qutezcoatil

[@Shax117]

Always wanted to be the first to comment and get a like..no such luck :)

[@_TheViewer_]

Stay at KZbin and refresh the page until one of your subs posts. That’ll be the technique 😂

[@IAmMightyMike]

There's better things to hope for out there

[@xNirex44]

Here's a like on me

[@beefy45]

@@IAmMightyMikeis there really?

[@elvisnamikaze3464]

Let's make it 20 likes :)

[@d.williams2389]

This was the way I thought about it when it first came out and when I tried to explain it to ppl they called me crazy. Thank you for this

[@TheCfbutler]

The history of advanced civilizations before the Colonizers is impressive!

[@MrGA555]

I just realized Wakanda is the most weak they’ve ever been. They lost their King, their Queen, their princess, and their country went through a civil war, two major battles with Thanos forces, and a war with the Talokanil, and they lost many in the flood. They’re broken.

[@SuperSayianMessi10]

That’s what happens when a nation steps up as the world’s leader. In a way, that shows that T’Chala father was right about being isolated.

[@raymundodelacruz5173]

Can Namor and Aquaman talk to Alligators?

[@johnpittsii7524]

❤ Namor.

[@brianholcomb933]

I never gave one 💩 about Namor as a kid reading comics. But his portrayal in the movie, particularly the scene wherein he explains his Name. “ …because I have no love for the surface world.”

[@BryceChillis]

That fight between Shuri and Namor had a LOT of not subtle sexual allusions

[@TheRealMelonic]

nice, but about that secret avengers movie, why would characters like bucky join the government

[@Toomuchmycuz]

The story of Namor is the story of indigenous peoples all across the world. I appreciate the nuanced way they were portrayed, although it would be great if at some point he/they become “the good guys” in their portrayal by Marvel… extra points if this is done without him ever joining the avengers!

[@Toomuchmycuz]

Also massive shout out to you, Ryan. Your commentary specifically about colonization are respectful and highlight our plight as it continues today.

[@renemoreno7907]

​@@Toomuchmycuzwas super surprised at the nuance and throughness of the video, too

[@mon_nobi]

Agreed, Ryan and team did good on this one. I enjoyed their analysis and historical breakdown of colonialism's impact on the Mayan people and how those roots appear in the Namor's backstory in WF

[@seank5244]

Random thought: Is M'Baku now king of Wakanda? BP 2 ended with him challenging for the throne. Without the power of the Black Panther, there's no way is Shuri going to win that fight

[@larahedge8960]

Marvel better listen to this. You gave us a better plot than any movie they put out on phase 4.

[@leosnyder5264]

Oh si you think no way home was not good lmao that's was a great phase 4 movie

[@larahedge8960]

@leosnyder5264 I never said it wasn't good, but I also don't think it was the cinematic master piece that nostalgic boys made it out to be.

[@hoytoy100]

Ryan please go talk to Kevin as soon as possible.

[@k3n12ock]

Her names REE - REE not REAR-REE

[@peterlopez5361]

Love the editing! Reminds me of some of the smaller channels I follow and love!

[@philipjeanmard6056]

Ok, first off Namor IS attacking for vengeance. Revenge against the surface world for the death of his mother first, his royal subjects(killed by Nakia) second. Yes, Namor is worshipped as a god but whoever serves as the Black Panther serves as the earthly avatar of the Panther god Bast. And last, whoever thought Shuri was going to just be chill with her mother’s murder and NOT go bat crap crazy is stoopid! Namor had that butt whoopin coming!

[@RogePeppers]

On top of that, Shuri lost her father, her uncle got killed by her dad, and her brother died from an illness. Her cousin ruled for a little bit by taking down the brother, and then he died and saw him on the ancestral land. Her emotions are at an all-time high.

[@animatednativestv4794]

I wanna see Adam Warlock and Namor square off in the MCU. The Hulk still dqed 😂

[@Emanon...]

I like how everyone in the MCU and Star Wars apparently can shrug off getting stabbed through their major abdominal vessels and their spine and be totally "aye okay".

[@joannadaniels8356]

Monty Python's Black Knight: It's just a flesh wound.

[@charlesbarden2970]

Namor didn't trust using diplomacy. And he didn't trust his power to stop incursions. Instead he decided to be the bad guy and capture and murder a child. That's always a bad move. While yes for a good cause in his mind not fully justifiable. They had the power to defend themselves