HOUSE OF THE DRAGON Theory: AEGON'S PROPHECY Killed the Dragons

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@HACKTACULAR.
@HACKTACULAR. 2 жыл бұрын
I like that theory concidering Rhaegar Targaryen supposedly heard of the prophecy through a scroll he found in the library and not from being passed down. So im wondering if well see Rhaenyra drafting this scroll?
@made-line7627
@made-line7627 2 жыл бұрын
That would be a cool moment
@b1bbscraz3y
@b1bbscraz3y 2 жыл бұрын
the signs are telling me the show writers aren't that aware
@bofawhatsbofa4593
@bofawhatsbofa4593 2 жыл бұрын
@@b1bbscraz3y exactly. They just keep dropping the ball
@jaykay6074
@jaykay6074 2 жыл бұрын
Well now hold on, it makes since because the line of passing down is broken from Rhanera to her son Aegon 3rd, he was also very anti dragon, freaking out when Baelas(?) Dragon returns with her to visit him. You would imagine he would not have been, had his mother had a chance to tell her last living son (whom would have been a toddler last he saw her) about the prophecy and the duty of the Targaryens
@randomsarcasm2022
@randomsarcasm2022 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaegar knew the prophecy which led him to pursue Lyanna Stark - to combine ice with fire - so the prophesy couldn’t have died with Rhaenyra.
@made-line7627
@made-line7627 2 жыл бұрын
It's implied that he found out about the prophecy in an old scroll, so the passing of the prophecy from ruler to heir probably *did* die with Rhaenyra, or, more likely, Aegon III. Rhaegar just uncovered it through written history later
@emarti3853
@emarti3853 2 жыл бұрын
What you (and Brian) missed is after the dance of the dragons, a maester is hand of the king, regent of the king, and the only member of the small council. In this period (about 6 months), little is recorded but much is possible. Including disbanding an order designed to protect dragons that are no longer around. Poisoning dragon eggs that are left on the dragon mount is possible. This is why Danaerys's 3 eggs all hatch - they were stolen before the civil war and kept in Bravos
@b1bbscraz3y
@b1bbscraz3y 2 жыл бұрын
it was 100% the maesters that facilitated the death of dragons
@burtan2000
@burtan2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@b1bbscraz3y I agree. And the Doom was facilitated by the Faceless Men
@jjh2456
@jjh2456 2 жыл бұрын
@@burtan2000is that a theory or is there some textual evidence for that.
@brucedunlap1978
@brucedunlap1978 2 жыл бұрын
Classic review for the ages. Learned so much. Thank you. Love Doug...the tshirt I would love!
@ricardo9273
@ricardo9273 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work gets better and better
@kelvinwilliams3572
@kelvinwilliams3572 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your videos. I’m a GARGANTUAN fan. I find your logic of various story lines intriguing and informative. Keep them coming and I’ll keep watching. 😊
@majickonegames2318
@majickonegames2318 2 жыл бұрын
Solid. This is easily the best theory on the Dragon's Decline and eventual extinction I've heard.
@bobpierce
@bobpierce 2 жыл бұрын
Best all-around explanation I’ve heard. Thanks for summing up several important ideas in one place! 👍
@fitzofpassion
@fitzofpassion 2 жыл бұрын
Have you also considered simple habitat destruction? The fourteen flames provided an elaborate heated cave system, and the Westerosi dragons sort of make due with Dragon Stone’s smaller volcanic vents, but it’s certainly not their native adaptation. I think it’s interesting to think of them as a hyper-specialized megafauna that just couldn’t adapt well past The Doom. That’s one of my favorite parts of the universe as well, that all these mega fauna, dire wolves, mammoths, saber toothed cats, and other human species (children, giants, Skagosi and I’m assuming Neanderthals, Denisovans, etc.) are all making some unexplained resurgence, or at the least being pushed out of their last bastions by the Night King.
@made-line7627
@made-line7627 2 жыл бұрын
I like this 👌🏻
@christianavila8188
@christianavila8188 2 жыл бұрын
I think what maester Marwin was trying to explain the conspiracy of creating and developing the conditions for the dance of the dragons. Basically have the Targaryen battle each other so all the dragons kill themselves. This also makes sense because the Hightower family, is the patron house of both the citadel and the faith in old town.
@rhynlock11
@rhynlock11 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea that the long night hit Essos as well of Westeros, since its believed the world is round and the lands of always winter may connect to the gray waste somehow and the 5 forts are the equivalent of the wall. Azhor Ahai was the Hero that won the battle in Essos and the last hero was his counterpart in Westeros. that's why Quaithe in the books tells Dany that to reach west she must travel east. so they can fight the long night in the 2 fronts
@made-line7627
@made-line7627 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Surely it occurred in the East too. If it didn't, it makes the conflict with the Others seem smaller. The second Long Night wouldn't destroy humanity, it would only destroy Westeros.
@mr.z9309
@mr.z9309 2 жыл бұрын
the earth's flat, wtf bro
@papanurgle8393
@papanurgle8393 2 жыл бұрын
Essos also has an "equivalent" of the wall with the five forts and they even pre-date the original Long Night. While they aren't necessarily responding to the same threat, it's a similar idea wherein these massive structures were constructed to preserve the realm of the living from "others".
@b1bbscraz3y
@b1bbscraz3y 2 жыл бұрын
I think you mean to say Azor Ahai and the Last hero are the same person if the world wraps around and the stories are telling the same event, so not his counterpart but just the name he was known by
@MisterGravelrama
@MisterGravelrama 2 жыл бұрын
Dude this was so good! We dig most if not all of your content, but this one was next level clever, humorous, & entertaining. As a stout GOT follower, I found nothing but joy from the connections and theories based from the established facts combined with the visual cuts in your presentation. You are a master of your craft sir. Somehow I feel like GRRM is sitting back waiting to steal from minds like yours before or even if he decides to finish the original. But whatever, we can enjoy it through this medium whether he does or not.
@ScreenCrush
@ScreenCrush 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think of our theory?
@xavestron
@xavestron 2 жыл бұрын
you know nothing ScreenCrush!
@xKhaozs
@xKhaozs 2 жыл бұрын
someone is craving too much into forums and theories, I liked hahaha !
@smexdmx6680
@smexdmx6680 2 жыл бұрын
Meh
@Jsteve3230
@Jsteve3230 2 жыл бұрын
Ehhh…
@commandZee
@commandZee 2 жыл бұрын
👍 I prefer metaphorical Azor Ahai theories over the more literal ones. It just feels closer to GRRM's intent to echo real-world prophecies from historical folklore. Btw, you should consider selling Doug and sock puppet merch.
@jaysongundlach6193
@jaysongundlach6193 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. I love your theory. I usually look that these things as mostly head cannon. But yours makes since and follows the story.
@nicholasgarrick8855
@nicholasgarrick8855 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you making these video Ryan thank you so much, and keep them coming .
@bearz5408
@bearz5408 2 жыл бұрын
I like this theory connects the magic of the world Jon goes to the wall and saw the old myth of the north like dire wolfs and giants. While Danny saw blood magic and sacrifice. Both Targaryans getting magic restored in them.
@Jayk129
@Jayk129 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing that could tie this theory together. Azor Ahai sacrificed his wife, someone he dearly loved, whose soul inhabited his flaming sword. Dany and Jon likewise sacrificed people important to them for their flaming swords in that Dany rides Drogon named for her husband and Jon lost his real parents and rides Rheagal named after his father Rheagar Targaryen. Since it’s implied throughout the show that Drogon has part of Khal Drogo’s soul in him that the same applies to Rheagal. Interesting is that if true that would mean Viserion has a part of her douchey brothers soul which could explain why he was so easy for the Night King to turn, the Lord of light knew that his desire for the throne was out of selfish reasons like the Targaryens who fought the civil war so he abandoned the Dragon to the ice and was doomed to die.
@erikagholston6610
@erikagholston6610 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation it all tied in together.
@ScreenCrush
@ScreenCrush 2 жыл бұрын
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@omeglechips
@omeglechips 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaneyra was able to pass the prophecy As we see in Dany vision rhaegar tell to his wife that their son infant Aegon is the Prince that was promised
@deanthonyparks9393
@deanthonyparks9393 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please talk about Nikki looking at the Camera in She Hulk
@lord_gaara
@lord_gaara 2 жыл бұрын
We need t-shirts of Doug.
@ReeCrowsFray
@ReeCrowsFray 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my word 🤯 just when I think I know enough to get me by, I’m left reeling and digging. Time to breakout the board with red string and points of interest again. AKA k*ller board 🙈🙈🙈🙈
@ReeCrowsFray
@ReeCrowsFray 2 жыл бұрын
Jeeze. I need whatever “supplements” George is taking while writing these books. I need 3 alarms just to make sure I get to my sons school on time and can’t remember how old I am. This man has created thousands of characters, religions, magic, kingdoms, centuries old stories, and stuff I never would’ve dreamt of and can still keep track of it. No way it’s just ginseng and Centrum for 55 and older.
@craigwilliams1073
@craigwilliams1073 2 жыл бұрын
Once again an outstanding breakdown!
@beddamade
@beddamade 2 жыл бұрын
I have been watching your videos for a long time. I have to say this is my favorite video of yours!!!
@rjpittman4510
@rjpittman4510 2 жыл бұрын
Big hole in this theory is that the Targaryens and their dragons were linked before Aegon so his prophecy not being known wouldn't kill off the dragons. It is more likely that generations of inbreeding led to their demise, which mirrors Targaryens. I believe the number is something like 160 of a species to start off to prevent inbreeding. Before the doom, there were many dragons. After there were 3. Just like any species (Galapogos Tortouise) they would die off after enough generations
@happyron
@happyron 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. It's great that we are getting a prequel series that makes the original, with it's later flaws, better. Truly great writing. I hope when it's over we can watch GOT again and think "well that's actually alot better than I thought!"
@ChenoodleSoup
@ChenoodleSoup 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t that it can or can’t be better than we thought it’s how horrible the end was..the show itself was top tier. Some would say better than house of the dragon too. That last season was what sucked lol
@b1bbscraz3y
@b1bbscraz3y 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChenoodleSoup season 1 of GoT was for sure
@alveolate
@alveolate 2 жыл бұрын
if you think hotd has "truly great writing" you need to watch some preston scott xD
@Poss-mkt
@Poss-mkt 2 жыл бұрын
Shocked how everything makes sense in each intricate detail.
@SerDunk
@SerDunk 2 жыл бұрын
Ser Ryan "Breakdown" Arey!
@reaver1414
@reaver1414 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaegar didn't give up on his son aegon being the prince that was promised. He also believed that the dragon must have 3 heads therefore he must have 3 children (a son and 2 daughters just like aegon the conqueror and his 2 sisters) so when after having their 2nd child his wife Elia was too weak to give him a 3rd child he chose to turn elsewhere (Lyanna Stark) to have a 3rd child with to fullfil the prophecy. There is even evidence that he did this with his wife's knowledge and blessing
@b1bbscraz3y
@b1bbscraz3y 2 жыл бұрын
which part said it has to be 2 daughters or that he believed it must be 2 daughters
@John-uw2je
@John-uw2je 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree, it even sounds like a classic GOT plot thread. A Targaryen tries to force a prophecy to be true, and it causes problems. In theory Rhaegar would have been fine, but by making a child with the woman that Baratheon loved he started a civil war. I'd like to add on that in the books, Tyrion is implied not to be Tywins son, as he has a purple eye and straggly white hair. Perhaps Rhaegar made Tyrion, and believed that he couldn't possibly be the prince that was promised, and went off to make John. But in the end, the 3 heads were Daehnerys Tyrion and John, his daughters had nothing to do with it.
@MICHIGANGAL007
@MICHIGANGAL007 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best explainations. Period!!!! Thank you
@kingseanthefirst
@kingseanthefirst 2 жыл бұрын
Dammit Ryan! You just made stupid season 8 make sense. Good work man!
@charlesjohnson7458
@charlesjohnson7458 2 жыл бұрын
lolololol
@briana8088
@briana8088 7 ай бұрын
I always understood season 8. Is that why you didn't like season 8?
@juanrosa6969
@juanrosa6969 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video and theory!
@hapaguy2001
@hapaguy2001 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo Ryan! Well done!
@TornadoChickWeatherNetwork
@TornadoChickWeatherNetwork 2 жыл бұрын
That was an EXCELLENT video :)
@rharcus
@rharcus 2 жыл бұрын
They should make a show about the original ending of the long night, the original Azor Ahai, fill us all in. Also since it's all myth written by maesters, lots of room to fill in gaps and make the story they want without a WHOLE lot of cannon to cram into.
@chrisv6321
@chrisv6321 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff here!
@earthfirstsammy
@earthfirstsammy 2 жыл бұрын
You are into GOT and GRRM's work as much as I am in the band Phish, damn, when we love a form of art to the point of fanaticism we can break down everything and read into it and weave out of it whatever we want. And that is awesome. I enjoy your passion Ryan. Thank you.
@vbun4662
@vbun4662 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love a spin-off series in this universe about somebody going outside of westeros to find more dragons again. Show more of the world.
@julesgch3976
@julesgch3976 2 жыл бұрын
That theory that dragons are aware of their owners' goal is actually plausible, in the books anyway, because Quaith reminds Dany several times about the prophecy of the prince that was promised
@ziggykatze
@ziggykatze 2 жыл бұрын
“Remember who you are, Daenerys. The dragons know. Do you?" --Quaithe
@b1bbscraz3y
@b1bbscraz3y 2 жыл бұрын
that COULD just be to remind her that she is a dragonrider not necessarily TPTWP
@taylorgayhart9497
@taylorgayhart9497 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone calls Jon Snow the ultimate sad boy, but both the women he loved died in his arms, of course he is sad! I definitely think his ending in the books will be similar to how it was in the show, more like Frodo’s ending than Aragorn’s.
@quackattack2421
@quackattack2421 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly think A big reason he stopped writing the books is because his ending is basically the shows ending obviously be explained better but people hated it so much it ruined his own excitement for awhile
@rossfranklin7075
@rossfranklin7075 2 жыл бұрын
@@quackattack2421 I think you’re spot on there because if you have actually read the books it seems like that. Just the show runners completely dropped the ball in the way they delivered
@Hambie76
@Hambie76 2 жыл бұрын
It's also worth noting that he had to kill the one and definitely should've killed the other. Well, he really should've killed them both before they had a chance to do damage. Man, that guy has a thing for women on a mission! Poor dude.
@denniswashington6924
@denniswashington6924 2 жыл бұрын
I think there's more to Jon's story and prophecy but we'll jus have to wait til the jon snow show to start to know for sure
@waterwaveybaby
@waterwaveybaby 2 жыл бұрын
@@rossfranklin7075 I feel like he maybe regrets saying he’d do 7 as well, like there’s so many characters and stories and only 2 books left it sounds like an impossible task wrapping it all up in 7
@helloogieee
@helloogieee 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best theories I've heard. I'm wondering of this vision was passed down during maegor's ursup..
@molleh3180
@molleh3180 2 жыл бұрын
I like this a lot. Well done
@tempellem
@tempellem 2 жыл бұрын
this is a pretty good analysis. 👍
@Nooooooooooooooooooooo7913
@Nooooooooooooooooooooo7913 2 жыл бұрын
Love this theory!!
@jchavez789
@jchavez789 2 жыл бұрын
Ah that makes sense. I really thought the Dragons died out because of Mephisto. So I was like "Mephisto confirmed?" but you make much much more sense.
@Klostrophobik
@Klostrophobik 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching your videos. They always remind me how bad I need a haircut. Not that I'm getting one, but definitely need one. Keep up the great work.
@dazalttheory8965
@dazalttheory8965 2 жыл бұрын
9:28 This video to me hinting that "The House of the Dragon" is connected to the up-coming "Jon Snow" mini-series due to "Brandon Stark" looking back into the past.
@senselessbabbledotcom
@senselessbabbledotcom 2 жыл бұрын
Great theory. Well done!
@p.c.howard7025
@p.c.howard7025 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting theories Definitely a lot to think about
@piyusarkar3065
@piyusarkar3065 2 жыл бұрын
This kinda makes sense because when the targaryans left their city, they had only 3 dragons and that was enough to produce so many more in a few decades
@chris2163
@chris2163 Жыл бұрын
I believe the Targaryen’s left with five dragons, the black dread being one of them probably very young at the time and he was the only one to survive out of the 5 ( I’m not sure what caused the other dragons to die but they did lay some eggs before they passed and that’s where we got Vhagar and Meraxes I’m sure I spelled all their names wrong but I’m sure U got the idea lol ) there were only three at this point and then Balerian knocked up the other two, and that continued the Targaryen dragon line. Who’s your favorite dragon?
@ramonfrausto8648
@ramonfrausto8648 2 жыл бұрын
Love it Ryan!!!
@roblara6845
@roblara6845 2 жыл бұрын
Well done.
@Goshi88
@Goshi88 2 жыл бұрын
So if the Targaryens were able to use the dragons to fulfill the prophecy, why the other Valyrian houses were able to use them before the Doom? Do you think they have been a part of the prophecy just like the Targaryens?
@zechrojas2202
@zechrojas2202 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this theory is a bit of a stretch.
@L33Reacts
@L33Reacts 2 жыл бұрын
He’s trying to unite book and show canon… never gonna work lol
@topazdragon3723
@topazdragon3723 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that all dragonlord houses tie into the general gist of the ‘fire that drives off the ice’, the Targaryens simply were the only surviving remnant. Perhaps the Targaryens specifically were further attuned to it than other houses, for it was their prophetic dreams that led them to survive the Doom.
@denniskristos3800
@denniskristos3800 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if GRRM will ever weigh in on this 'cos it's as plausible a theory as I've heard as to the how and why, post the Targaryen Civil War, of the decline of magic in Westeros and the dragons' extinction. Well done, ser. :)
@Gordydoggg
@Gordydoggg 2 жыл бұрын
Great theory, well explained
@modnarer
@modnarer 2 жыл бұрын
Well since George RR Martin is never going to finish these books, this is a good enough theory for me!
@Diamond-by2gw
@Diamond-by2gw Жыл бұрын
Sad ain't it...I picture old George in a room full of money with writers block overdosing every night on milk of poppy😪..... FINISH THE SERIES GEORGE!!!!
@hghlyfvrd
@hghlyfvrd 2 жыл бұрын
This was awesome explanation so good I need to watch it again 😂
@MrEd-xg9wo
@MrEd-xg9wo 2 жыл бұрын
Nice .. well done .. logical and very reasonable .. and of course Doug is a big help .. how about a plush toy version of Doug ?
@amirreza2612
@amirreza2612 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan could make the best finale ever for GOT.
@prizethought
@prizethought 2 жыл бұрын
What if the Night King is resurrected in the Jon Snow spinoff and Jon has to use the weapon he pierced Dany's heart with to kill him once & for all?
@MateuszBuczek
@MateuszBuczek 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff
@ObsidianDoll
@ObsidianDoll 2 жыл бұрын
great video
@John-uw2je
@John-uw2je 2 жыл бұрын
What is clear is that whenever magic is involved, blood or death is also involved. I think it would be sort of fitting for the cruel world they live in if the gods they pray to are simply the way they reasoned all of the magic. When any of the characters are revived, its not free either, they feel like their soul has been stretched or they lose their empathy entirely. In old valerya, they had many blood mages that used slaves that would work until death. Most likely these slaves were used to make the dragons.
@syntychiahintsin-tee-shaks2256
@syntychiahintsin-tee-shaks2256 2 жыл бұрын
The theory is a good one!
@nicholasgarrick8855
@nicholasgarrick8855 2 жыл бұрын
Sheep stealer may still be alive somewhere but, cannibal is likely dead as with no rider he was probably around westeros until he eventually died / killed.
@markpjf85
@markpjf85 2 жыл бұрын
As the Dragons die the ice awakens the night King begins his army…
@tatyanajackson8760
@tatyanajackson8760 2 жыл бұрын
“…Which makes him sound like he just ate a full tray of pot brownies ever made” 😂
@omarr293
@omarr293 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, spot on!!!
@samroth7995
@samroth7995 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that was E.T. in the thumbnail. Now I want M&Ms, thanks Ryan.
@PeterLau23
@PeterLau23 2 жыл бұрын
Great theory, George Ryan aRey Martin.
@gemini3399
@gemini3399 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thank you. But I still think Jon Snow alone is the prophecied person bc Aegon’s prophecy is the Song of Ice and Fire and he is Ice and fire
@Sardonac
@Sardonac 2 жыл бұрын
A small correction: at 1:37 you say that the Maesters are all about "science and reason", when it seems they're instead more invested in maintaining power. They exclude women from their order (irrational), they attach themselves to lords and control which ravens/mail gets sent in the country, and they are suggested to have manipulated major events throughout the series. For example, the Archmaester helps the Lannisters stay on top and, in the House of the Dragon at least, it's suggested that they either don't treat the king's wounds properly or coordinate with the Hightowers to maintain a handle over the king. The Maesters are ostensibly independent from national politics but they're far far from it. Recall also how a maester tried to kill Melisandre. That's not 'neutral' at all!
@xuttuh5260
@xuttuh5260 2 жыл бұрын
Maesters are basically an anti-magic faction. Would make sense they supported the Hightowers over the Tagaryens.
@optimus2g
@optimus2g 2 жыл бұрын
Well said
@pallen2645
@pallen2645 2 жыл бұрын
Excluding women makes perfect sense, actually. There's a reason Qyburn specifically required female puppeteers when reanimating the body of Gregor Clegane.
@Sardonac
@Sardonac 2 жыл бұрын
@@pallen2645 I don't follow. How does Qyburn making women the victims of his experiments lead you to conclude that the maesters as a whole are rational in their policy of excluding women?
@pallen2645
@pallen2645 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sardonac That was one example: sex in particular is a source of power, see Melisandre's manipulation of Stannis' life force, probably impossible for a man. The point is, by limiting their members to men, they also limit the ways that magic can used against them. But it's important to remember that the Citadel is not a monolith around the role of magic: it's not a coincidence that the one archmaester who wanted to steer the Citadel towards the use of magic was also the one who knowingly brought a woman into the order. Because excluding women makes sense if you're treating magic as a danger, a weapon to be defended against. But if you're looking to WIELD that weapon your opinion is likely to be different.
@googarc
@googarc 2 жыл бұрын
it totally makes sense, thank you
@ecokrazy
@ecokrazy 2 жыл бұрын
Dragons: factually exist Maesters: no magic, just science. Kill em.
@rodm49
@rodm49 2 жыл бұрын
This is just 💯
@mrblonde2k3
@mrblonde2k3 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of reaching, but overall this video was 🔥
@Red1Green2Blue3
@Red1Green2Blue3 2 жыл бұрын
The Prince that was Promised and azor ahai are DIFFERENT prophecies/legends. TPtwP seems to been a Westerosi legend/prophecy whereas Azor Ahai is from Essos. They likely have different sources even if they are talking about the same person. The prophecy doesn't say Azor Ahai will be reborn as TPtwP
@rmellrobinson821
@rmellrobinson821 2 жыл бұрын
Damn; I’m glad someone on here knows what they’re talking about
@blackfyrerose2292
@blackfyrerose2292 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the Targaryens allowed the dragons to die out, especially after the Dance. In House of Dragons, Vhaegar ate Lucerys and Vermax even when Aemond told her not to. They disobeyed and caused a war, and probably started eating each other. Or perhaps they tried to make sure the dragons didn't get too large as to turn on them again. A dragon listens to and obeys no one, not even a Targaryen. Dragons partner with humans. Or perhap humans are their pet. Dunno, either way, it really shows just how horrifying dragons are used in war, especially against each other. Dragons eating dragons, Targaryen killing Targaryens.
@kharyrobertson3579
@kharyrobertson3579 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely not the worst piece of GoT conjecture. I can dig it.
@MrSp3c
@MrSp3c 2 жыл бұрын
What if the Night King was just the right hand of the great other? Jon Snow could still be the prince who was promised if he comes into contact of the white walkers again in the lands of always Winter.
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 2 жыл бұрын
I think these in show version weren't the original ones, but version of the Children.
@reneenayfabnaynay5679
@reneenayfabnaynay5679 2 жыл бұрын
Your dog is the cutest!
@culchiefilms1791
@culchiefilms1791 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe after the dance of the dragons and the Targaryen civil war, the dragons or their eggs simply just didn't want to hatch. I don't know their family tree but I imagine that the dragons that were fighting and killing each other were loosely related to each other. Even if they weren't, they probably still didn't feel good about killing each other. Especially since, there was already only a small number of them that existed. On top of all that, the Targaryens and their dragons were seemingly very close and connected to each other. The Targaryens (and Velaryons) are the only people who can bond with and ride a dragon. They have an unexplainable connection. The Targaryens are the last and only link the dragons have to their home of Valyria. They remind them of their home. But long story short, the dragons have a family-like relationship with the dragons. They trusted them and felt comfortable around them because they remind them of home. So when the dance happens, the dragons are not only made to kill other dragons, but also Targaryens who are like family to them. To make it worse, the people making them do this are Targaryens. That must have been very conflicting. So.. After the Doom of Valyria, the dragons were almost extinct, but then they found a new purpose. They would protect and aid the Targaryens in their conquest of a new land. A land that one day, could reach the heights amd glory of old Valyria. Then the Targaryen Civil War happens and makes the dragons feel like nothing but a weapon. They thought that their purpose was to protect the Targaryens, but now they are trying to kill them, along with other dragons. They see that the family they were protecting is now killing them. When the war is over, they no longer have a purpose. Their will to exist is gone. The magic that has given them life is gone.. Until, I, Daenarys Stormborn of House Targaryen, First of her......
@made-line7627
@made-line7627 2 жыл бұрын
That's a very sad take to contemplate, but could be true.
@MissKashira
@MissKashira 2 жыл бұрын
Given that the families of dragon riders still inbred even when there were other dragon riders to breed with, I think the blood magic that created the dragons were tied specially to each families' bloodline. So all the dragons we see in the story are Targaryen dragons, made with Targaryen blood. The dragons of the other bloodlines burned in the Doom with their riders. So yeah, they are LITERALLY related to their dragons and their dragons would also be all related to each other. It also explains why they sometimes have babies with scales and wings and such. They really do have the blood of the dragon and the dragons also have the blood of the Targaryens.
@b1bbscraz3y
@b1bbscraz3y 2 жыл бұрын
@@MissKashira and Nettles who possibly has Targaryen or Velaryon blood in her
@MissKashira
@MissKashira 2 жыл бұрын
@@b1bbscraz3y From the sounds of it, Nettles is using sorcery to control her dragon. She's probably the only dragon rider we're aware of that isn't a Valyrian. It sounds like the Valyrians used horns and sorcery in the early days before they improved the process that tied the dragons to the blood of the riders.
@christinaknight794
@christinaknight794 2 жыл бұрын
WOW! That was GOOOOOD!!!
@jvario2788
@jvario2788 2 жыл бұрын
I love this theory, but one problem. We saw that the Night king was immune to dragon fire. If they are supposed to be embodiments of the flaming sword, then the dragon fire should have killed him.
@ikrajmohammad8999
@ikrajmohammad8999 2 жыл бұрын
anyone got a counter to this gentleman's valid question ?
@cara1663
@cara1663 2 жыл бұрын
A retcon by the showrunners, probably. I doubt it will follow that logic in the books.
@TA3DArtist
@TA3DArtist 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention, in the show anyway, it was neither Jon nor Dany who ended the long night. It was Arya.
@Dularr
@Dularr 2 жыл бұрын
​@@TA3DArtist I like a few ways of interpreting it. The long night is not over. That is why Jon travels beyond the wall. To put a true end to the long night.
@b1bbscraz3y
@b1bbscraz3y 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dularr trying to justify the pointless Jon sequel which will inevitably be trash since all available evidence demonstrates that people creating visual content with GRRM's IP can't do it successfully without source material from George
@PWFnetwork
@PWFnetwork 2 жыл бұрын
I thought we’d have seen a Black Adam video by now!!
@idkidk8278
@idkidk8278 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Dragon were getting smaller and less fierce because the Targaryen's didn't keep their bloodline pure.
@MissKashira
@MissKashira 2 жыл бұрын
My theory is the gods didn't want all the people to die out because then they'd have no one to worship them. But The Great Other would still have the Children, so he's like, "Let's do this!" And the children could spread out if he could wipe out men, so it's like the gods are warring with each other too. So in order to not lose their worshippers and with them their power, they basically spoonfed Dany the recipe for hatching dragons. And once she served her purpose and the long night was over, they put her down like a dog. Like Cersei said, "If the gods had mercy they wouldn't be gods." And Dany might not have been a man, but she most certainly served and then died. So it makes sense that when the Targaryens nearly wiped out their line with infighting that the gods would take the dragons from them and then bring them back when needed. It's a good theory. Also, I think the Three Eyed Raven is the Great Other, making the Night King their version of Dany, but he wasn't cool with serving and dying, so he rebelled. That's why he wanted to kill Bran. To kill the god that orchestrated his creation and made him a weapon against his own people. And now that I think about it, he ended up with the same fate as Dany, put down when he was no longer of use (with the same dagger too).
@suzvera5425
@suzvera5425 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen one of these GoT labyrinth videos in quite some time. It feels like nostalgia covered in mosquitos.
@copperhead2694
@copperhead2694 2 жыл бұрын
Very very interesting.. I have not heard this angle yet,out of the thousands that are out there . I have to say this one out of the many I have heard definitely hold way more water then any other . Except in the show GOT which we know the book form has not been written yet, The dragons seemed useless against the Night king, and it wasn’t even a Targaryen that killed Him. Hopefully the books will line up better than Season 8 did.
@Wat33rBoi69
@Wat33rBoi69 2 жыл бұрын
I need a “Somehow Palpatine returned” tee shirt
@felipeosmo
@felipeosmo 2 жыл бұрын
Need to add a Doug t-shirt saying "stupid new guy" in the merch store 🤣🤣
@dr.stephenstrange8471
@dr.stephenstrange8471 2 жыл бұрын
I find it fitting that the dragons gave the Targaryens birth right and power to unite most of Westeros against the long night and full fill Aegons prophecy however once the prophecy was full filled, the dragons destroyed the iron throne along with the age of birth right and power for the Targaryens which allowed for a new age of democracy which gave all the kingdoms peace.
@jamesandrew4958
@jamesandrew4958 2 жыл бұрын
thank you Ryan for redeeming some of the last season of GOT for me
@boyetocampo6380
@boyetocampo6380 2 жыл бұрын
the only thing that will solve all these theories is GRRM finishing his books
@stepanovicboro
@stepanovicboro 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing theory, love it!! But dragons couldnt hurt de NK and im guessing neither white walkers, so how were they the sword lightbringer 2.0?
@dankorn
@dankorn 2 жыл бұрын
Weren't the Targaryens using the dragons for their own gain all along? They didn't need to conquer all of Westeros to be able to someday defeat the white walkers. If anything, it was after they lost the Iron Throne that they fulfilled the prophecy, and the dragons didn't really help with that anyway.
@ameliacraiig4193
@ameliacraiig4193 2 жыл бұрын
As a non-book reader, season 8 of GoT still confuses me (even after watching a comprehensive explanation like this). What part did Arya play according to the prophecy? Why was it her who killed the Night King?
@brandib2821
@brandib2821 Жыл бұрын
The prince who was promised was meant to unite the realm. Which he did. Not just lay the final punch.
@ameliacraiig4193
@ameliacraiig4193 Жыл бұрын
@@brandib2821 Wasn't the prince who was promised Jon Snow? What's that got to do with my initial question about Arya?
@samakinrinade827
@samakinrinade827 2 жыл бұрын
Great theory. But if the magic tied to dragons and Targaryens was contingent upon the goal of stopping The Other, why keep keep that major prophecy a secret only to the Targaryen who sat on the Iron Throne and his direct heir? Seems to me such a prophecy regarding the fate of the entire realm could be lost to history simply with a king never getting around to telling their successor? (Which ultimately happened). Of course Targaryens will start to use dragon power for self interest if they’re not at all aware of the Dragons’ true divine purpose, thus causing dragon magic to fade away.
@jonathandehn9910
@jonathandehn9910 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, this may also be why Drogon didn't kill John after he killed Dani.
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 2 жыл бұрын
You partly right there were Dragons left after the Dance but still think that Maseters were poison them. Also their Eggs so will not hatch.
@Quanic2000
@Quanic2000 2 жыл бұрын
Did the Dragon Trainers not know that keeping the dragons in captivity stunted their growth?
@Onii-chan_choso
@Onii-chan_choso 2 жыл бұрын
If tyrion knew im pretty sure they knew
@dineinunes
@dineinunes 2 жыл бұрын
@@Onii-chan_choso Tyrion knew because it is history, maybe the dragon keepers only learned about it in the wrong way. I don't think they had dragon pits in Valyria so the dragons always roamed free, it wasn't until they decided to lock them up that they learned that dragons can't be kept locked.
@richsouthwood6548
@richsouthwood6548 2 жыл бұрын
Something I had always wondered was if Jaime Lannister could've been the Azor Ahai. I think if things went differently he would've killed Cersei to save the realm. Also, his had got cut off, right? Well, I also remember Jojen Reed having the vision of a hand on fire....which made me automatically think of Jaime!!
@made-line7627
@made-line7627 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting point about Jojen's vision
@nicholasgarrick8855
@nicholasgarrick8855 2 жыл бұрын
Masters are not bad, they just think the world be better off without any magic. And ,who can blame them. Dragons, shadow babies, skin changers , white walkers ,resurrection, glamours prophecy....magic is seldom used for betterment of mankind in their world.
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