screw it, i'm making my dream game

[@_SuperSadex]

Vote for medium (10-15min) length videos

[@TheShelfman]

Valid! Thanks for letting me know😁

[@Atomz09]

@@TheShelfmanyou have more time to develop

[@peterwild2974]

yes

[@michaelrobinson4266]

@@TheShelfman Make what you like and can continue to make consistently.

[@CoffeeAI201]

10-15 min videos would be great, longer is just bonus. You’ve improved over the past 3 years. Looking forward to seeing where this game goes.

[@TheShelfman]

Sweet, thank you!

[@personii]

Good luck on your dream game! I've been thinking about starting mine so seeing other people start their dream games is a huge inspiration.

[@TheShelfman]

@@personii thank you! And definitely go for it if you feel you're able to do it! I waited for several years because I felt I wasn't there yet, skill-wise

[@_Wruce_Bayne]

The writing and editing were genuinely so good!! Keep up the awesome work!!

[@TheShelfman]

Thanks so much!

[@DanPos]

I got through a bag of skittles and a small tub of pringles in the duration of this video which to me says it's the perfect length

[@TheShelfman]

@@DanPos oh my god hahaha Appreciate it!

[@TotallyNotNick27]

I hope you stick with making your dream game, I love the idea! Forager and skyblock are favorites of mine, and automation is always fun. I hope we see more devlogs for this game!

[@TheShelfman]

Thank you! You should be able to expect another devlog in 2 weeks👀

[@TiltLoop]

Its very interesting how we can have lots of systems in a game and the majority of it wont be noticeable at first by the player. Loved the content, im also creating devlog on the game Im making so it is very inspirational. Good luck!

[@TheShelfman]

@@TiltLoop definitely! Thanks for watching, and good luck with your devlog 😁

[@BLANKdev]

that intro just made me so happy, just seeing you be happy to make it and learn and not worrying about the outcome is perfect. best of luck!!

[@TheShelfman]

Thanks so much Blank! I'm super excited about this 😁

[@jayman1462]

how about like 8 minute videos, just like this? these are perfect, they feel long enough to be a video but not so long that my brainrot gets the better of me and i click off

[@TheShelfman]

Definitely seems like a good option, thank you!

[@ManaCoder-h4y]

Making a dream game has its benefits of wanting to work on it more, then a project you are just making to make money.

[@TheShelfman]

Definitely! But it eventually becoming a project that could make money could for sure blur those lines

[@decidev]

Hell yeah! I remember playing that demo you cooked up years ago, so glad you're finally going ahead with the project! 10-15 minute vids sound good.

[@TheShelfman]

Thanks man! Super excited about this. 10-15 minute videos it is!

[@oliverbrownrigg2328]

I love the look of this game already! From the simplistic art style to the gameplay, I'm excited to see how this shapes up!

[@TheShelfman]

Thank you!

[@joemmaal]

Great devlog! It’s amazing to see your progress-every update is so inspiring. Keep up the awesome work, can’t wait to see where this project goes next! 🚀

[@TheShelfman]

Thank you so much! More coming soon😁

[@kainnes]

Hey! I'm the guy behind Minifantasy. Happy to see you're using my assets for your game 🤩 Very entertaining content! I love your style. Followed ^^

[@TheShelfman]

Thank you so much! Your assets really gave me that boost in thinking I could turn this into a real thing. Love your stuff😁

[@alongal407]

6:36 You should also make it abstract, since you don't want to create any instances of the inventory script

[@TheShelfman]

@@alongal407 I've never used abstract classes before so I'll have to look into that, thank you!

[@alongal407]

@@TheShelfman it's actually really simple, marking a class as abstract means instances of it can't be created and can only have classes deriving from it. Additionally it can have properties marked as abstract, which the deriving classes have to implement, and also abstract methods which the deriving classes have to implement too (they are forced to implement it)

[@DamianDevz]

Love the effort. Looking forward to seeing more.

[@TheShelfman]

Thank you!😁

[@GamesBySaul]

Lets go! Looking forward to seeing more of the devlogs! I think 10 minutes is definitely a good amount, 15 is nice if you want to focus on certain mechanics a bit more but I think for more general overviews 10 should be good :)

[@TheShelfman]

Appreciate it, Saul! 10-15 minutes will definitely be the goal from now on!

[@imaybestupid2045]

awesome, gotta add this to devlogs im following, looking forward to it mann

[@TheShelfman]

Thank you!

[@barigamb]

Don't worry about your old code being bad. When I started game dev back in 2020 I started working on my "dream game" and eventually I gave up because just 3 months in I already improved soo much that I just couldn't put up with the code I wrote at the beginning. Also I would totally watch a 7 hour long Shelfman video lol. (Well more like put it on and listen to it while doing something else (I literally did that with a 2 part 6 hour video about debunking a popular psudoarcheology channel on tiktok that was spreading conspiracy theories lol))

[@TheShelfman]

I'm definitely not worrying about the old code. I'm so proud of how much I've learned over the past couple of years. I've made massive jumps! I don't think I could actually make a 7 hour long video, but I'd like to try 1 hour ones on maybe anniversaries of the game's development or something🤔

[@mayonaise0]

you are charismatic, sub for you my dude and good luck on this project

[@TheShelfman]

Thank you so much!😁

[@Placuch0]

this looks insanely fun, really looking forward to it

[@TheShelfman]

Appreciate it! Looking forward to sharing more😁

[@CasperNotGhost]

For me the longer the better 👍 But probably longer vids would either have to be lower quality or would take more time which you could spend on developing the game (or living human life) so medium seem like a nice sweet-spot. And also I really like factory-building, automation games

[@TheShelfman]

I appreciate that! 10-15 minutes seems like the sweet spot for sure. Will go for that first!

[@Skeffles]

Glad to see your vision for this after you mentioned it on twitch. It looks like a fantastic start to the game and I cannot wait to see how the greek gods integrate with the survival factory gameplay.

[@TheShelfman]

Thank you Skeffles! I'm super excited to share more about it for sure😁

[@PyPixelGames]

very cool. Great that you are giving your dream game another go :D.

[@TheShelfman]

Thank you! I feel much more prepared now

[@PyPixelGames]

@@TheShelfman I am actually working on my "dream" game too :) .

[@PyPixelGames]

@@TheShelfman And btw, could you please create a discord server?

[@TheShelfman]

I got a discord server! It's in the description as well as the about page of the channel😁

[@PyPixelGames]

@@TheShelfman oh, I have searched for it in the description but haven't found it lol

[@michaelrobinson4266]

Good luck! Name ideas: Aeromator. Also, if you are leaning Greek pantheon... Mt. Olympus Cloud Factory, or Hephaestus: Greek God Automator

[@TheShelfman]

Great name suggestions, thank you!

[@icoso]

The game be GAMIN' It's already looking super grand and shows a tonne of creativity, I can't wait to see where this goes. Amazing editing as always, I love the chaos >:0

[@TheShelfman]

Big gamin vibes here! Thanks for watching mr coso!

[@slobbymonk]

Looks like fun! Can't wait to see where it goes, good luck man.

[@TheShelfman]

Thanks man! Appreciate it😁

[@lolwizbe]

i love this art style, game looks awesome already. would love to play this

[@TheShelfman]

Awesome, thank you!

[@tiagobarracha]

You gonna have a blast once you discover interfaces and how they can scale up your problem with the scriptable object item class

[@TheShelfman]

Oh yeah for sure! Used interfaces a little already, but should definitely use them here as well!

[@Allam-Dev]

always impressed with your work keep it up bro

[@TheShelfman]

I appreciate that!

[@valentineDev]

looking forward to see this game progress!

[@TheShelfman]

Wooooooo

[@VRzone-jp2fj]

bro the game your making is exactly what im looking for

[@TheShelfman]

Niceeee Here's to hoping then that I'll turn it into something decent!

[@SecretZoneGames]

Sounds really cool, also the editing goes HARD

[@TheShelfman]

Thank you so much!

[@ramigebriel3427]

very cool stuff dude, your voice is very unique and soothing :D

[@TheShelfman]

I appreciate it, thank you 😁

[@DrDrasticVR]

any size video is good as long as its still entertaining for us pea sized brain, dopamine craving, brain rotted viewers

[@TheShelfman]

I can definitely take care of that! I usually cut out a bunch to keep people engaged anyway lol

[@ConBomb]

Good luck trying to finish the game, and for making a video entertaining enough to distract me from my own 😅

[@TheShelfman]

Thank you! (and I'll try😂)

[@NeatGames]

Awesome! You can do eeet~~ :D I loved Tekkit as well!

[@TheShelfman]

Thank you😁 Tekkit is awesome!

[@fattcoke4705]

Hey, good job on this, it looks great so far. I'd say that around 10 minute videos that explain mechanics are good. Also, for some feedback, I noticed that the size of pixels across the game isn't consistent, such as the white square highlighter and the little rocks on the factory conveyor belt have smaller pixels than the rest of the game's art. It's small, but it makes the game's visuals feel slightly discontinuous.

[@TheShelfman]

Thanks so much! The white square is definitely something I'll look into, as for the stuff on the conveyorbelt, it's supposed to be that way as they're just tiny versions of the items. Having them be the actual size on the conveyor belt would be way too large😅

[@Beets_Creations]

Do it! make your dream game! you won't! But in all seriousness looks cool! excited to see what you come up with. As far as video length anything is fine. however long it takes to tell the story you want to tell.

[@TheShelfman]

Challenge accepted! (sort of, as long as i keep enjoying it) Thank you! Will keep the video length thought in mind, thanks!

[@Weirdo_Studios206]

Longer the better, as long as you're not unnecessarily padding runtime Also, I had the same idea for a game like this a while back, and it turned our awful, so nice to see how you do it.

[@Weirdo_Studios206]

Also my game was named Skyforge, but I'm not gonna be using it anytime soon so if you like it feel free to steal it

[@TheShelfman]

Thanks! As for your game name, it actually sounds really nice! I'll add it to my list, but not sure I'd feel comfortable taking that name from you😅

[@SmartThinkerKO]

I kid you not I was just thinking I wish we could have longer videos since you don't upload often and they are entertaining as hell. I vote for long videos!

[@TheShelfman]

Good to know, and thank you! Hoping for more consistent videos soon :D

[@Ghostgamer3535]

Your game seem to have a lot in common with other games. My question is where will it stand out? What will you take out and what will you add? I wish you the best, keep it up!

[@TheShelfman]

Thanks! What's currently visible through the video is definitely looking similar to what's known. But it's really almost like a huge Minecraft modpack with Greek mythology. I'll explain the premise in more detail in the future, but basically the character has challenged Zeus to a bet, and now the player has to defeat all the Olympian gods in combat, and eventually Zeus, to win the bet. You create, and find items as part of quests, and once you've reached the end of a god's quest line, you can summon them to fight them, again eventually leading to a fight with Zeus!

[@Ghostgamer3535]

@TheShelfman Sounds like combat will be a part of your game as well. I wonder how you will balance the automation vs action elements and how automation will be implemented with the greek mythology theme. Will combat be in the form of tower defence? Or more similar to Forager using your own weapons or maybe both? Will there be magic? You do you. These are just some things you can think about.

[@TheShelfman]

@@Ghostgamer3535 More like Forager for sure. Also most enemies can be found in the underworld, so they won't really mess with your factory world and such! And there might be magic, haven't fully decided yet. There's still a lot to figure out, especially combat wise

[@ECAKJ]

Nice! We're making the same game with the same assets haha looks good so far

[@TheShelfman]

@@ECAKJ lol! Good luck on development! Hope we both find our own ways!

[@Elias123dikkiez]

10-15 min videos are the best, and after that you could upload a more in-depth talking about the systems and all for the people who want to understand, as i like learning about stuff like this, so try to incorporate explaining into your videos so we can understand the logic!

[@TheShelfman]

Awesome, thank you! I'm not sure I'd do a second video on a topic, but I'll think about it!

[@BWDev]

Hell yea, welcome to the terrifying world of automation game development 😎

[@TheShelfman]

Thank you for having me, I'm excited and horrified👍

[@Csabelito]

You could name it Cloudworks, Skyworks, Cloudsmith or something like that

[@TheShelfman]

Some solid name suggestions, thank you!

[@slowmomoose]

i LOVE this idea

[@TheShelfman]

@@slowmomoose thanks so much!

[@ZooHair]

Glad I'm not the only one having someone behind me too whenever I start coding

[@TheShelfman]

He visits you too? Should we do something about it??😭

[@perruche_320]

It's nice- Though pixel arts are too low res, it's difficult to distinguish different elements and they hurt my eyes haha.

[@TheShelfman]

The art is all subject to change! I really like the 8x8 restriction but if I ever run into a problem that means I absolutely have to make everything 16x16, I will switch (and probably cry lol)

[@t33h33studio]

Aaah Tekkit... good memories of that in 2012.

[@TheShelfman]

@@t33h33studio tekkit was the absolute best

[@andygeers]

I enjoyed this one! Anything longer than 10 minutes and I find it hard to make time to watch it

[@TheShelfman]

Thank you! Gonna be trying to reach 10-15 minutes, but probably nothing longer than that!

[@AIAdev]

turn back now

[@TheShelfman]

oh no not the AIA warning😭

[@Undercover_Femboy]

out of curiosity , could you elaborate on that? As a hobbyist game dev, I am very curious to know what you make of this.

[@AngriestSalt]

@@Undercover_Femboy It's a joke

[@Undercover_Femboy]

@@AngriestSalt ohh, here I was hoping to learn some game dev trade secret or something 😔

[@SebaCape55]

​@@Undercover_Femboy The joke is that jumping into an over scoped "dream project" often ends in disaster. I wouldn't worry if that's what you want to do though because the knowledge you gain is invaluable anyways; the means of travel carries more importance than the destination.

[@TeamBobbo6326]

i'd say 10-15 min videos with a longer video for the anniversary of development ( if you get there). and maybe some community posts for stuff you couldn't get the time to mention but still want to talk about.

[@TheShelfman]

I love that idea! Thank you!😁

[@HeyItzHydra]

Great video and for me I think 8 minutes is a fine length. I do see a lot of votes for longer so just go with what you want.

[@TheShelfman]

8 minutes is about what I'm "capable" of so far, but slowly moving towards 15 would be nice! Thanks for watching 😁

[@mrlucky974]

short videos are good because you can focus on one thing, but i also like long videos because i can sit back relax and enjoy the show :] (yeah i'm not helping at all but i guess long videos are good for me)

[@TheShelfman]

LOL thanks for sharing though, good to know it doesnt matter to some people!

[@612Luck]

5:23 short!!!! a lot of them!!

[@TheShelfman]

That's super specific haha Thanks!

[@BladeRunnerEnthusiast]

It's almost like, Necesse and Forager. It looks pretty good, dude.

[@TheShelfman]

@@BladeRunnerEnthusiast thanks! I have yet to play Necesse sometime👀

[@whalegum]

YOUR VIDEOS GIVE ME MOTIVATION!!! If you don't finish this game I will be disappointed;

[@TheShelfman]

THANKS FOR WATCHING!!! please i can't deal with that pressure😭

[@parthshinde5655]

vote for longgerrr vidss 20 - 30 minssssss plxxxx

[@TheShelfman]

Got it!

[@ArminisHere]

Dang, this is the exact idea i had for my dream game too! but im trying to do it in 3D with isometric view

[@TheShelfman]

Sick! Hope development goes well😎

[@ArminisHere]

@@TheShelfman Thanks dude

[@LunarcomplexMain]

Just call it Factory in the Sky lmao (I did always love Castle in the Sky), also maybe an in between on shorter update videos, but then longer in depth ones?

[@TheShelfman]

Thanks! Will keep it in mind! As for the video length, I'm not sure I'd make multiple videos on the same thing, but I'll see if I can/want to look into it!

[@shalevforfor5550]

6:53 yeah that food thing to do and this is the thing about OPP that you need to use it I it's not only to be organize it's to be able to add things more easily later

[@TheShelfman]

For sure!

[@bl4ckk]

as a greek, your greek god was 100% accurate

[@TheShelfman]

Sweet. Knew I had it in me!

[@jackefsdn]

Awesome work! I cant wait to follow more of this. I would say 15-20 minute long videos are best to cover 1 or 2 big things you have added and a few smaller things. Anything over 25 minutes is too much.

[@TheShelfman]

Thanks! And that's a good point. It'll probably take me some time to get my videos to that length, but 25 minutes would probably be difficult too haha

[@GingerNingerish]

Ah inventory systems... what a headache I know this well.

[@TheShelfman]

I had a few issues with the automation, but otherwise it wasn't too bad this time around!

[@yilmaz3939]

I have a suggestion for a name for your game, would "Aerofactoria" be a good suggestion?

[@TheShelfman]

I love that one! Will add it to my list, thank you😁

[@Klibbe_dev]

Gooo on King!!! I got this

[@TheShelfman]

Appreciate it😎

[@I-OGameDev]

Found this cause it was recommending one of my vids, great title

[@TheShelfman]

@@I-OGameDev awesome, thank you!

[@necrozmaestupido622]

this would be so cool in multiplayer

[@TheShelfman]

@@necrozmaestupido622 maybe one day! If I got the knowledge, the funding and the patience😂

[@thevedect8983]

I think that something between 10 - 15 OR between 30 - 40 minutes could be interesting!

[@TheShelfman]

Awesome, thank you!

[@kyubi7166]

Hey dude, you should check out miniland adventure. Its quite close to your dream game but doesnt have automation. Ive played it and it has its flaws but it could give you what to avoid and what could work

[@TheShelfman]

Awesome, thank you so much for sharing!

[@TommyCroustillant]

looks promessing!

[@TheShelfman]

Thank you!

[@SweeeeeetTea]

Can I help you create art for your game? I’ve always wanted to make a sandbox game but never got to it. But maybe if I just help you that’ll fulfill my dream of making one.

[@TheShelfman]

@@SweeeeeetTea i appreciate the offer! I currently already have someone helping me with the art (which will be clear in the next devlog) but feel free to join the discord in case I ask for more help in the future 😁

[@GPID_]

ah, good luck. Hope you release your game someday

[@TheShelfman]

Thank you! I hope so too!

[@DaydreamStudios_Official]

I'd love really long videos please :)

[@TheShelfman]

Good to know! Most people seem to prefer max 15 minutes, so I'll probably be working towards that first, but maybe someday I'll try long ones😁

[@Gd12343]

Good luck buddy

[@TheShelfman]

Thanks 👍

[@5US69]

the graphics really looks like reventure

[@TheShelfman]

Oh yeah I could see that! I think this has a few more pixels, but I can definitely see the resemblance. Looks great!

[@IsaacLobaoCerejo]

nice video, looks great but in this style of pixel art having sprites with different scales and the fonts not having the same pixel size does not look good in my opinion, but you do you, keep it up!

[@TheShelfman]

Thanks! And yeah of course the art isn't final in any way :D Most of it is pretty much the same already though

[@zaj007]

Hey I recommend filming your green screen footage vertically so your shoes are in frame so you can put yourself anywhere on the screen

[@TheShelfman]

WOW I had never even considered that! Like, seriously, I should do a test for this sometime to see if it works for me. Thanks for the suggestion!

[@rootbindev]

I like peoples dream games

[@TheShelfman]

Me too :D Thanks for watching!

[@brainrotw]

if your dream game is a 2D game, it was a nightmare

[@TheShelfman]

lmao why's that? this is the kind of game i've always wanted to make. 2D or 3D shouldn't matter

[@blazeDev_vlog]

Season of the new game projects started… Samyam is going to announce one soon. And yes, I also started new one 😂 Good luck on that one! 🤞

[@TheShelfman]

It really has, hasn't it😭 Good luck to you as well!

[@Allam-Dev]

I think 10m - 15m is best length not to long that become boring and not to short to be no details

[@TheShelfman]

Awesome, thank you!

[@boumguys5886]

I feel like every gamedev go through this step

[@TheShelfman]

Maybe! But since I've been trying to make this game for years, and I finally got a plan, I'm a little more confident in my ability to do it. However, I also said that I have no idea if I'll ever finish it, so at least I'm trying to keep expectations a little low lol

[@NoRightsProductions]

So a mythical skyblock Starground/Nova Lands? Neat

[@TheShelfman]

@@NoRightsProductions in a way, yeah!

[@b3agz]

Hear me out... High Factory

[@TheShelfman]

Hmm I appreciate the idea but I'm not so sure about that one🤔

[@VenovaGames]

Maybe Name the game „Pixel Perfect“ like the Pixel perfect cam in unity. And also like placing things or building things pixel perfect. And about the video length well maybe do all: often some KZbin shorts, here and there a normal 20min devlog and maybe all 4 Months a deep dive for like 5 straight days. Just kidding. Good video by the way

[@TheShelfman]

Thanks! I'm not sure about the title as I don't think it would necessarily fit the game, but I'll add it to the list anyway! I'll probably mess around with the video length as well😁

[@doug9000]

besides that, it looks like you cant use Sky in a product name these days without go to the court with that draconian british television corporation, like No Man's Sky did.

[@TheShelfman]

There are plenty of recent indie steam games that got "sky" in their name so their must've been more to it with no man's sky. But interesting nonetheless!

[@cubbucca]

call it Dream Factory

[@TheShelfman]

It's not exactly a game about dreams though🤔 But thanks for the recommendation!

[@Geometryblue]

Will the game have more than 100 final bosses or a story where the best speedruner completes it in 7 days? always wanted a game like this, with optional multiplayer

[@TheShelfman]

Uhhhh Idk about that, but it's definitely gonna have some bosses! All the other stuff depends on my skills + scope!

[@ParanormalLabs_ROPE]

My dream game was Asteroid Dodge game and I made it too. 😃

[@TheShelfman]

Awesome! Congrats on finishing it!

[@MerlinSpace]

im here for long bois im a video essay guy :)

[@TheShelfman]

I love video essays too! Hence why I asked haha

[@adamkovacs835]

Vote for long vids talking through the system

[@TheShelfman]

Good to know!😁

[@LetsPlayWithPixels13]

I wish it was 10-15 minutes or even more maybe even up to 30 minutes

[@TheShelfman]

Thanks! Currently aiming for 10-15 minutes, although it'll probably take a little while before I'm capable of doing that consistently without cutting too much😅

[@LetsPlayWithPixels13]

@@TheShelfman I don't care if you cut, sick videos tho thanks for replying

[@PersonUserPerson]

Vote for very long videos!

[@TheShelfman]

Thanks for letting me know!

[@timotheus7845]

it looks like a forager beta

[@TheShelfman]

Not bad, considering it's still super bare bones!

[@ludomaster3416]

This looks like Forager!! Forager is an awesome game, but it feels like it is just barely under 10 hours of gameplay... I wish your game will add more content ^^ Good luck!!! Edit: Just noticed you said it was like Forager... Still... My point stands!!

[@TheShelfman]

Thanks so much! I'm definitely hoping for quite a lot more time of gameplay. However, I gotta say I spent a solid 50 hours on forager myself😁

[@ludomaster3416]

@@TheShelfman Yeah, you CAN do much, but it feels like it is in beta still, since... well... It hasn't much compared to other games from that time. I'm excited for the game, still ^^

[@spironspirit6502]

name idea: skisland builder

[@zstrebler1234]

Just commenting for your engagement

[@TheShelfman]

Thank you! Hope you enjoyed😁

[@AndrisGameDev]

That was a fuckin cool vid boi! :)

[@TheShelfman]

Thank you!