SCUM 0.8 - Fatigue System & HOW To Beat It!

[@RayKit]

My audio sucks sorry guys trying to get it fixed :P

[@DarksFails]

You always get 10% SU more out of coffee/energy drink, does not matter how many sips like you said. Only changes how long the buff holds as the drink goes trough your system. AND that is why it looked to you like more sips give bigger buffs. The drink had to go trough the system to give the full effect.

[@MercyB3ats]

I’ve been playing treating it like a real experience, instead of focusing on a base I’ve been going around the map gathering materials and stashing them I’m around the map!

[@Bonekraka]

Adds a reason for beds other than just an role play value I like it, kind of adds to the realistic survival elements, awesome coverage again sir 👍

[@stephaniesayer7191]

As I said before on the previous video, simply eating and drinking properly reduces this too to a great degree.

[@Bendigo1]

Something else I noticed is that High-carb and High-carb foods and having enough of it in the system to boost the energy meter to over 100% does add max stamina. and it seems to last longer than the energy drinks. But if you sit and do nothing, you will gain fat very fast.

[@DanielOutdoors]

Only thing they need to finally remove, is the dissapearing when logging off, I cannot tell how many PvP fights has been screwed up, or dudes suddently appearing at the bunkers, or exploiting bases due to the dissapearing when logging off. If they had done it at least like Rust with sleeping, it would be a bit more realistic, but also much more balanced, and better action in bunkers or countering / raiding bases...

[@BeefyBacardi]

Ever since Accumulative Fatigue got announced in a dev update months ago, I tried to get into the habit of logging out in a bed. It's not like they came out with this as a surprise. Now I log out when I'm done for the night, in a bed or a bedroll, log back in the next day with full stamina. No problem.

[@oynlengeymer2434]

i like it, it was at first too much, like digging up crates would have put my constitution to zero eventually the way it was originally. I was.2.5 con, dug up and reburied two crates, con was down to 2.3 and it takes a long time to build it, longer than it takes than for a crate to despawn (unless playing 24/7) So yeah it WAS bad but now its fine. I only with bed roll equipped on other shoulder so we can have quiver too.

[@Janzer_]

haven't had any issues whatsoever with fatigue since they made the adjustment. people forget that when they first come out with a feature like this, it's often redlined so they can get reaction, and then they scale it back. easy peasy no problems. and i run everywhere.

[@Godwin420]

RayKit, please recognize how influential you and similar content creators can be. You all really should have reserved the judgement out-of-the-gate upon release or properly re-addressed post hotfix. Now, as a result (not directly, but obviously had an impact on many server owners I feel) the default for the majority are having it disabled entirely. Now that its been given more attention, you can see how it should arguably be included for all, but a majority won't even consider it now.

[@HeckDizzle]

i agree. content creators really need to do alot of testing themselves or have someone do it for them as they hold a big talking power over decisions of majority of the people that watch their videos. feature really was fine when it first came out. just hope the devs didn't waste their time in a feature that wont be even used.

[@oynlengeymer2434]

same with dial locks etc. but being content creators there is a rush to beat the other guys on a topic. if you see one vid covering a new feature, you may not bother to watch a second vid covering the same feature.

[@oynlengeymer2434]

@@HeckDizzle it was ok if you had decent constitution when it first came out. Now its been nerfed to 1/su per min which is a huge difference and probably too much. If you get too low could always log out on a bed and come back later. But the penalty for going down to zero stamina was the issue b4. See my post above. at 2.5 Con or less, you could not dig without losing actual Con base points, which needed to be fixed ofc.

[@HeckDizzle]

@@oynlengeymer2434 yeah you lose points but at around .003/0003 an hour compared to raising it around 0.3/0.4 an hour. if they are releasing books for cooking i'm sure they will make books for other skills that could help CON cause that's the hardest one to raise currently.

[@DestructiveGrimmy]

Thanks alot didn't know this,i saw and noticed when i were chopping wood

[@GrimsGoods]

I haven’t noticed it after they nerfed it. But I drive a lot so idk.

[@andrejins]

Definately on and always on it makes gama more interesting

[@geenomotsch9270]

Hey, how i can find the Raykit Discord for the SCUM Server? greetings

[@WolfofnoStreet]

I found a really nice trick to beat the fatigue system and generally everything I dislike in SCUM. I just uninstalled the game and started playing DayZ. Best decision I ever made.

[@evelynrothschild654]

Read this if you want the real deal opinion, no sugar coating, and no dev butt sucking. I'll praise them where it's due and criticize them when its warranted. I installed this game awhile back when it was still killing you for touching water. I installed again about 3 months ago during the peak of 0.75 release. I was hooked. Sure, there were bugs that would be frustrating at times but it was rare enough for me that I could deal with it personally as a dedicated gamer. I got involved in the Scum community forums and pages, keeping up with the Dev's work and progress on 0.8. They went as far as including the community and reaching out, getting polls, consensus of which models looked best for the Base Building, etc. That added A LOT of hype to the upcoming 0.8 release. Advertised farming, implied we would be getting 2 modular vehicles(car and a truck), implied animal taming "might" happen with the 0.8 release, boasted the Nuclear Power Plant POI and it's new features VERY HEAVILY. In fact that was the main thing they seemed to be pushing with the new update and not so much the game changing mechanics of modular vehicles, base building, farming, etc. Everybody was H-Y-P-E-D. I'm emphasize that because the dev's and community admin's pushed this 0.8 update like it was the new flavor of the day and it was going to CHANGE SCUM YET AGAIN! and FOR THE BETTER! right?.....right?....bueller?..... Then D day happened.....0.8 dropped a nuclear BOMB on the ENTIRE community..and NOT IN A GOOD WAY EITHER!!!!!!! Let's run a few things that did and didn't happen with the 0.8 release. We got the nuclear power plant poi and the features with that. STOP. This is the only GOOD thing I've seen added to this update in my honest opinion. The Dev's put ALL their eggs in one basket with this added location. It came out AMAZING....but then...they wanted to mess it up with HOTFIXES. So now you can't run in a hazmat suit, hazmat lockers and medical lockers with phoenix tears can no longer be forced, you have to actually pick them now, after burning through 6 40/40 use screwdrivers and not unlocking a single one ive said screw it. screw that poi, screw the issues with radiation and screw that POI. I'll just avoid that entire area the rest of my life now because they've made it too much of a pain in the ass to visit regularly that it's not even beneficial as far as loot goes so other than my initial one time there in single player spawning my own gear to get in, I won't be back anytime soon. Other 0.8 surprises and changes: Animal Taming - NO SCAR - NO Farming - BROKEN, I had a 25 plot planter on a 10x Max loot server, out of the 25 plants(cherries, potatoes, tomatoes, garlic, apples. It took me several days to get them to be "ripe" and even then, total items collected over several days and COUNTLESS searching after restarts and loot respawning (5 potatoes, 3 garlic). That's it. Never got an apple, or cherry, or tomato, and then they DIED. No point in farming til u can actually get produce off your plants. Otherwise, it's just for FUN! CUZ GROWING PLANTS TO GET NOTHING IS FUN AMIRITE?! Base Building - Meh, semi-broken but with the amount of resources needed to upgrade each piece of your base individually, you'll spend days upgrading to just brick which can easily be destroyed with only 1 C4, and that's not even the last tier! For perspective, I have a 2 story 3x3 base on the edge of the water with a very small yard by comparison to flag range, walled in. I've made 3 runs to Brick Factory, Gravel yard, junkyard AND cement factory over 3 days and just NOW got my building to brick and have yet to upgrade the external walls beyond metal. This is on a 10x MAX LOOT server. Imagine trying to upgrade your base on a low loot or hell.....even a vanilla server. Cars - Well let's see. We had 3 diff types of planes, 2 diff types of boats, 2 diff types of bicycles, several types of motorcycles, 1 quad(four wheeler), an suv, a pickup truck, and a tractor...with diff color variants of the quad, motorcycles, pickups and suvs during 0.75. They removed EVERY SINGLE VEHICLE FOR THE UPDATE... with 0.8 we didnt even get the truck, we only got a half broken red dinky janky "wolfwagon" hatchback that for the last month has been nothing but a pain in the ass for players. Glitching, random despawning through the map, flipping the car on its side and roof with the only way to fix is either RAM it with another car or have somebody throw their body into your tires.....oh...but you have to STAY in your vehicle until that happens otherwise the car is dead in its tracks and you cant move it once you exit. So if you get stuck, unless an admin, or another player decides to help you. You're f*cked. Oh but we also got a boat too still, which likes to disappear randomly and people could still steal it for weeks after the update even if it was locked. Oh, and let's not forget to mention the dev's have HARD CODED a 100 VEHICLE limit per SERVER map, so if an admin spawns car 101, the oldest one despawns off the map....hence why most of your cars are despawning randomly...that or theyre falling through the map still. The SCUM Community had a meltdown. We still are in fact. Tomislav and the rest of the dev's don't appear to give 2 sh*ts anymore because NEWSFLASH: JAGEX NOW owns Gamepires. Yup...you read that right. The company who bought Runescape and monitized it to Micro TX hell. Every hotfix since the 0.8 update has only removed bugs that benefit players and nothing to fix the actual issues with the major issues players are experiencing. Server restart times: Prior to 0.8, the server I play on was doing 2 hour restart times. Restarts would take 2 minutes before being able to relog back in. Now....it's 10 minutes and we can't even get 30 minutes into a restart before everybody starts rubberbanding and lagging on a 70/70 server. I get that it's in OpEn BeTa however, you can look up in the release date....2018....5 f*cking years almost and they haven't hit 1.0 yet. It's almost as if they dragged their feet long enough waiting for a company like JAGEX to acquire them. One of the problems the community is facing now is suppression of our outrage. Any forum(Discord, FB, Reddit, etc) that has community input are deleting NEGATIVE comments and REVIEWS about this game and update that players are making to try and HIDE the fact that this game is a hot pile of trash right now. They're protecting the Dev's and don't want bad publicity on a major FAILED update. This game has a lot of potential and before the 0.8 update, was extremely fun to play. I advise anybody looking to purchase this game right now. DON'T. Don't support these dev's right now because they def are coming across like they aren't listening or supporting the community right now. Wait til 0.9...Hell wait til 1.0 and see how good or bad JAGEX makes it before buying, the price might go up 10 or 20 bucks but you'd be happier with your purchase THEN, than the feeling of wasting 35 bucks you'd be spending NOW on a broken game. Dev's need to stop going out and drinking all the time, posting pics on social media of their shenanigans and get to fixing their product. Hell, I'd have much more respect for them right now if they were to roll back to 0.75 and apologize to the community for this trainwreck rather than the current catastrophe that's occurring with this game.

[@conah9440]

Not tried the fatigue system yet but the concept is awesome the execution may not be. I don't want lying in a bedroll to be a recurring theme throughout a day and to avoid that the overall range of fatigue should be very slight. i.e 100% stamina reducing to no more than 90% due to fatigue. At 90% i don't care so much about the impact of fatigue but when i do sleep once a day it's nice to feel fresh having that 100% back. Once fresh I really should maintain 100% stamina for 6 in-game hours before fatigue penalties taper in to effect. Who knows, maybe there's a recipe to eat and maintain my characters "freshness" therefore simulating the effect of a good breakfast. Either way i will avoid servers with fatigue turned off as i think it's crucial to the identity of Scum. What is Scum without these hardships to manage better than the competition?!

[@evelynrothschild654]

Really disappointed, with all the hype behind this game I thought it was going to be more balanced. From a game that came out in 2018 early access or not, really feels like it hasn't gone anywhere.

[@hopsar8799]

Blueberries/Blackberries seem to recover fatigue as well.

[@HeckDizzle]

the tweak has made this fatigue feature practically useless and i hope after cooking rework they bring it close to where it was when the patch drop. haven't gone higher than -1 on the fatigue since patch. basic food keeps you 0 for the most part. now imagine a high tier cooked meal. some people forgot the feature even exists lol.

[@koen8973]

We've disabled the fatigue within the hour of launch. Even now it's still poorly compared to real life. If you'd compare it to real life it's like every thing you're doing is done at 100% gym repetitions. The fatigue should show itself in runspeed and action speed. That's far more realistic.

[@mrchillgreen]

@Raykit Exhaustion sucks so much man i accumulate 50+ exhaustion easily and when i want to get rid of it i at most can do around -1/su min maybe 1.5 wich means i would have to lay in bed 50 freaking real life minutes just to get rid of it. and then iam not even hit c2 or something so if the exhautions number gets even bigger i can quit playing or stop playing and logout and wait instead of beeing force to look at my char for such a long period of time. specialy when you have no car and try to build your base this is insanity.

[@opaofdragons]

The beds only give give 22 an hour about double from resting on couch not 1 a min

[@Flashlight199]

How can i spawn loaded mags for any weapon ?

[@ROchoa-pd5qo]

Great videos mate, I try scum from time to time but being raided twice in 2 days after moving across the f map makes me want to quit for ever lol. Do goldlocks mean nothing to the average scum player ? w t f mate

[@cinekjo1128]

!discord

[@RayKit]

discord.gg/dmUx6qAHwf

[@arthurrobbins9508]

If you don't like the fatigue system just turn it off I did .

[@DAS1337]

Its bizarre seeing people defending this mechanic. What they did was create a disincentive to play the game. Then designed a cooking system around mitigating that system. It serves no purpose. Not only that, they have tweaked it to the point of irrelevance. I never have to lay down. So what was the point, but to waste development time on sonething no one asked for or wanted?

[@sli-fox]

At least they allowed a server setting to turn it off.

[@HeckDizzle]

@Split Dimension it's really this easy. eat food. but guess they forgot what survival games are all about i guess. oh well man it's a nice feature but this might just get scrapped if its hardly being used.