Snowrunner Worse trucks in their sensible vehicle class

[@zbigniewzaraza3571]

Tatra DLC need buff, small Tatra need reworked, maybe dicclock always on, bit bigger tires. Tatra813 need more addons - logs, maintaner/tank

[@diprosla592]

small tatra 805 just needs its Special heavier tyres since its so light only 2.5 Tons and softer suspension like it has IRL bcs thats exactly why its bounces all around (currently it has too HARD suspension) + it needs ability to attach the scout trailers thats what will make it more usefull, and No, allways ON difflock isnt neccesary for it, it drives fine with AWD most of the time since its so Light weight

[@SD1ONE]

just move tatara 805 in scout class with all scout perks and it'll rock

[@Daddo22]

@@diprosla592 I agree with all except the scout trailers as I think we'd be better off getting proper trailers for small trucks. In my previous comment on this video I've described how small trucks (as well as wide trucks and trailers) would benefit from a rework of cargo system to be more granular (split of current 1 unit of cargo into 3x3), which would allow these small trucks to carry 2 of the smaller volume cargo (e.g. metal rolls) by fitting a properly-sized bed onto the truck and you could have a similarly sized single-axle trailer with truck hitch and wheels (proper height for truck) and even a short single-axle semi-trailer.

[@alexlovelace7504]

@@SD1ONEswap the classes of the Burlak 6x6 and Tatra 805, the burlak would benefit from a better engine so it can actually pull truck trailers, plus the autonomous winch doesn't have enough power to get it off its side. the 805 needs the autonomous winch and would generally fit better in the scout class

[@R421Excelsior]

I have to admire how the devs are determined to never fix the Freightliner.

[@SD1ONE]

there's not much they can do...least they could do is bigger fuel tank & better tires

[@R421Excelsior]

@SD1ONE All of these would be tolerable, but a semi-tractor that can't haul semi-trailers is a huge failure.

[@ankitvalvi391]

Western twin star is one of the best truck in the game this truck can pass any kind of terren with excellent power, but I can agree with truck balance with you it rolled out without any reason any where

[@SD1ONE]

A lot of trucks are good on their own but I am judging them based on the vehicle class they fall under...so its not necessarily the worse but less popular in its class.

[@VCN01]

Twinsteer should get trailer hitch at least. Femm also have 4 slot bed and can attach trailers

[@Daddo22]

@@SD1ONE I think that what you really mean is the worst trucks for universal use - which truck of the category can do the lowest variety of tasks well.

[@awakenmirror3005]

It's "the worst" not "the worse" truck. Otherwise great video, as usual.

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[@tvctaswegia497]

Some of these choices, I feel personally attacked. Also, you're right. Not going to stop me using Twinsteer everywhere just because it is so goofy to drive. Dishonorable mention: That Khan39 scout. If you put any kind of engine upgrade in the harsh transmission just pinwheels it off the road on upshift. It literally cannot drive in a straght line. Super annoying to drive, it's like trying to catch a greased pig.

[@SD1ONE]

however khan is like best small scout in mud...It has a character unlike Rock Grinder

[@justinlynch3]

Ankatra is the worst farming tractor. Not that capably offroad or in mud compared to the other tractors, burns a lot of fuel and has a small fuel tank. Haven't used that POS since the last season, probably would sold it if I wasn't a collector and wanted 1 of every vehicle. I'll definitely pick the K-700 and day over that.

[@SchazmenRassir]

- Yeah, the small scouts aren't good with trailers. But without them, a lot nicer to drive. But I agree, the DON is easily the weakest of the bunch. Literally and figuratively. - Telehandler is good offroad, and has good fuel consumption, but yeah, it's not good. Like you said, it's powerful but lacks utility. - Agreed. I don't like using the Ford CLT much. It's just... awkward to drive somehow. The long wheelbase and small tired are not a good combo. - Oh man... The Sprinter was made for one thing and it doesn't even do that well. The only thing I've found it to do actually well is follow train tracks with All-Terrain tires at a decent speed. That's it. XD - Oof, ANK is _thirsty!_ - Yeah, the Freighliner is... I don't know, it's not nice to drive. And needing a trailer with fuel, or a caravan to fuel it is unnecessary hassle. - Yeah... P16 is one of my favorite heavies, but I won't deny that it's definitely lacking in some crucial regards. - Agreed. The Tatra 818 mod for MudRunner was a powerhouse, and I was so hyped to see it in a DLC here. But then I saw what it did and it was... underwhelming. - Ugh... I've always hated articulated steering, and the K700 in Snowrunner was never that good in my experience. - Oh yeah, the Twinsteer is... it's just not practical for almost any map or region. It's like extra-hard mode. - The Antarctic... Articulated steering wrecks again. There's just nothing about the thing I like. I don't know if it's me, but even upgraded, it just seems weak. - Derry seems like it's very specifically NOT an all-rounder, not for climbing.

[@DanDaFreakinMan]

2:42 Also, the Transtar can be found for practically free, while you have to go out and buy the CLT.

[@seanthegamer46_80]

Alot of trucks in this game need to be buffed. Any of them that don’t have diff lock and or AWD and or both need to be given both (obviously dead axels should remain as a dead axel). All the scouts (all the small ones) need to be buffed and need to be given trailer access even with spare tire and all the big ones minus the tuz needs a slight buff to everything cause the big tuz is pretty much the only one I use other than the loadstar 1700

[@SD1ONE]

I think instead of buffing trucks...game mission struction & terrain difficulty need improvement

[@ceeofdeez]

@@SD1ONEnah the small scouts just suck.

[@ahriman935]

@@SD1ONE Well the terrain is ultimately the same no matter what truck you happen to drive at the time, and cargo is cargo. Certan trucks are simply clearly worse and making missions different won't help it. You'll still be more inclined to pick a better truck.

[@elin0s]

I think the CAT scout isn’t as bad as ppl think it is. As long as there is no water involved, it is great for rescues. I used it in hard mode since you get multiple and it saved me from a few tipping situations

[@LucYGaming_]

i disagree with the WS 6900, the International is worse IMO, the facted that you cant cross even to another map is a huuuge point against it, WS is really good, you just need to plan a little, also dont use doubles, you are hurting yourself with those tires, i think it needs that buff you mention, the oil platform from the mod, that would help it a lot

[@angrysqueakingteapot]

watching this after school, another well done video with a throughout analysis

[@Daddo22]

Small 4x4 trucks are missing timestamp. I think the biggest limiting factor to their usefulness is the map design as they'd really benefit from existence of objectives, where you'd need to carry just one unit of cargo to a location only accessible through a narrow winding path that just wouldn't accommodate a bigger truck. The only instance of this that I've seen in SR so far is the task 'Forecast Unclear' on Lake Kovd, Kola Peninsula, but I've seen some great maps like this in mods for MR. Another thing that vastly limits the potential of small trucks is SR's cargo system, where the size of one unit of cargo is IMHO too big - if the unit was, for example, ninth of the current one by area (= third by length, so current unit split into 9 squares arranged 3x3), we could have the current 1 unit cargoes that take up the full area be 3x3 new units, but loads like metal rolls take full unit of load despite taking only ~2/3 of area, where it could take just 2x3 new units. This would allow small trucks to have 3x4 or 3x5 beds and therefore fit 2 cargo in some cases, while the wide beds (e.g. Wide Flatbed Semi-Trailer and Mastodon's wide sideboard) could also be set to be 4-6 new units wide and therefore carry 2 rows (effectively double) of some cargo, making both extremes much more viable options. This would require a significant rewrite to the current cargo system, but it would allow so much more variety in the game and with little additional effort adding a lot of utility to many existing trucks & trailers. For Tatra 813 IMHO the best combo is the standard sideboard with 2 Ramped Flatbed Trailers, where winch point in the rear center allows you to pull them nicely one behind the other, taking 10 units of cargo in total, making the Tatra 813 quite an efficient hauler per unit of cargo both in terms of fuel and time without overloading (1 trip with Tatra 813 = 2 trips with other truck with 5 unit semitrailer). This, of course, only applies for trips where you have enough cargo to transport and the path isn't nice enough for a (highway) 6x4 with semitrailer or completely a deep mud or snow. I love that this truck made for pulling (mainly) armored vehicles (pulls up to 100t IRL) is actually great at pulling heavy loads in SR. I think that in SR Tatra Phoenix is worse than 813 in everything except having a (great) crane and fuel cistern, because Phoenix's all-wheel steering makes anything you're pulling take significantly smaller radius in curve than the truck, making it completely useless for pulling long or wide semitrailers or long trailers like Ramped Flatbed Trailer (of which 813 can easily pull 2), limiting you to basically 4 units of cargo (taking the Sideboard Trailer). I think it'd be much better if instead of this Phoenix we got the 6x6 Agrotruck, which has just front and rear steering axle and really fat tires, or went completely unhinged with 12x12 (front 2 and rear 2 steering axles) with bed for ~5 units of cargo a long log carrier and a double short/medium log carrier. 6x4 trucks are great fuel trucks IMHO, because then you always have the load on your rear axles, so you only need to avoid high-centering your truck and deep mud. I consider it a self-propelled fuel trailer with added benefit of free & instant recovery in easy mode.

[@SD1ONE]

I agree with your cargo system revamp, I think split & pack cargo methoid that spintires used can solve a lot of issues...

[@VCN01]

@@SD1ONE This cargo system revamp could also give the chance to deliver very small units of cargo on tiny beds (pickups), space inside (Loaf is just empty!) and maybe roof racks. For example, "vehicle spare parts" have 3 boxes in it, so we could transport 1 or 2 of them in small scouts

[@Cooperage911]

Freightliner M916A1 has saddle high also. So I use for saddle high only. Yeah not the best but I get it on a mission for free. Fuel tank is small. Roof rack would be nice. Anyway I like the look of this truck. Low saddle trailer glitches same on saber. Another thing what not corrected in the years... Thanks for the video, finaly not another what is the best comparition :)

[@ОстапСметанюк-о4н]

Не чекав я побачити нове відео!❤

[@beas_espofficial6245]

Imma disagree with the telehandler, it's the best for loading logs on trucks, if it had a log grapple it would rock,but it works.

[@abelszerepi7845]

Gotta defend Tattra T803 its a capable heavy in most of base maps. It can take care of most of the missions maybe slow but steady. If you want to progress calmly but steady its a perfect starter.

[@sturmovik_80]

I don't really agree on CAT TH357, sure it's not as good as Tatarin, but it still works pretty good as scout if there's no water. It has very good offroad capabilities and very large fuel tank for it's fuel consumption. I used it to explore maps on PT server when i didn't have Tatarin. Also i understand that you rate Antarctica very low, but on Amur and Kola Peninsula it's very usefull being one of the best offroaders in the game, especially in snow. I even bought a second one for transport duties on amur region.

[@Scybren]

Oddly enough I find myself using the ANK MK38 as a scout more than anything else but knowing it will need to be refueled by another truck once it arrives at its destination

[@oldandnew4153]

Top tip just use what ever you can use I use a ank51 m35a2 mod because I never stop using it but one that work without mods is the 8x8 army crine with the bed and maxed engine

[@andrewmcbain4119]

Are we ever going to get an American 8×6 wirh duals? The closest truck the international twin steer is too long. The Mack and Derry are 8×8 close enough, but no duals. The Kenworth T800 as a tri-drive with wide steer tires would be perfect, they already have Kenworth in the game.

[@S8r_707]

King have uploaded a video 🎉

[@justinlynch3]

Nah Tatra 805 is the worst large 4X4 not an honourable mention. I've used the Spinter as a scout and it's pretty capable. Good balance, quick, Okay-ish in mud. Sure if compared to a 6X6 or 8X8 it gets destroyed obviously, but I scout mostly with the 4X4's or small 6X6's like the Apache, Hercules or Yar. Spinter by comparison can hold it's own.

[@SD1ONE]

I think Tatra is just in wrong class...It should be a scout & As a scout it would do well with autowinch but Sprinter on other hand is hopeless IMO

[@justinlynch3]

@@SD1ONE With an auto winch it may be alright, still drives horribly though. I haven't dtiven it in a while, but isn't the 805 like the Actaeon where it's always swaying left to right and can't drive in a straight line? I do remember the 805 is also tippy. I still say the Sprinter is a better scout. Having the auto winch as a crutch so it can safe itself from roll overs every 2 seconds doesn't make it a better vehicle overall.

[@Don_Mag]

ANK - Bold choice... It is quite useful in time trials... Maybe Step 310E? It has one advantage, it is very economical, but apart from that it is the weakest. Azov 5 - They should finally fix this crane and allow for a trailer. They improved Tatra, so why didn't they improve Azov 5? International Paystar 5600TS - In my opinion the main problem is the lack of power. If it had more power, fuel consumption would drop.

[@Daddo22]

Army ANK is excellent for places like Island Lake, Michigan, where you have a lot of small deliveries to make in a muddy terrain and plenty of fuel trailers scattered everywhere. The civilian version is only practical if equipped with fuel cistern because of how high fuel consumption ANKs have when pulling anything, but if you need something to get Generator anywhere and have some additional fuel for it and other trucks, ANK Civilian is your friend. I use Step 310E mostly for medium logs without a trailer, where its efficiency often saves you a need for detour to refuel or a need to "meet" some fuel truck/trailer on the route. Very few trucks can pull a double load of medium logs and even if they can it often isn't worth it in terms of time and fuel - you can make the same route faster and cheaper in something like Step 310E. It's not suited for routes with too much deep mud though... White Western Star is similar in many regards, having higher fuel consumption compensated by bigger fuel tank, but the wider stance helps it on routes with side slopes.

[@Don_Mag]

@@Daddo22 Step 310E with 2x medium logs? I usually take a crane, short logs and a trailer for medium logs (if there is one on the map) and transport it unpacked. But you have 3 great suggestions for 2x medium logs. Varon AE (with standard gearbox), Tayga B and HX520... Each of them is better.

[@sturmovik_80]

Step-310 is only bad compared to other russian 6x6 trucks, compared to the american ones it's still among the best.

[@pjprikolasyoutube1759]

Pacific p16 only Michigan truck can stock pull. Not repaired white western star. Got best mud tires except for tuz tatarin

[@benediktlindner9394]

Good Day together. I need something to say to the Tatra T813. Yes, He isn't strong, but in love the T 813 as a Scout Rescue Truck. He hast the best constructed Car Slide Bed in the Hole Game. I don't wont to say the other Beds are bad. But i think the other Beds are limited. This small Bed is unlimited,i think. And i love to drove the T 813 with his unique Car Bed, and i drove him trough a lot Terrain. So please try and frendly Greetings from Germany.

[@onik7000]

5:58 - i use it as fuel truck. for quick fuel delivery )

[@SD1ONE]

yes, It can work as very good fuel truck

[@PitBull51091]

winner here means the worst vehicle xD

[@infernoking7504]

I drive the f600 alot just because I love it and modded large international scout better tires.

[@dugito0392]

deberian añadir una actualizacion que permitiera instalar / cambiar cualquier bocina en cualquier camion a otro

[@Angelthewolf]

The T813 isn‘t fair when we put the Forester in that category too imo, the Forester can only do one thing and it‘s not even that good at it

[@ahriman935]

err.. wat? This is just a stupid argument. For one: Forester is a great truck, capable, very fun to drive and with the best logging crane. It is without a shred of doubt the best medium/short logger in the game unless you're either suffering from chronic blindness or have personal vendetta against its real life counterpart for some reason. Only the big CAT rivals it. For two, there's a difference between being limited because of role specialization and just being limited. Forester can only do logging because it's a specialized logger and it IS good at it. T813 can only deliver basic cargo, not because it's 'specialized' but because it's just limited. Mind you, I used T813 quite a lot actually, I even took it into a deep dark forest (Amur) and unlocked ZikZ 605R with it. It's a decent offroader, but there are better even in the same class, and lack of addons makes it just so depressingly boring I never touched it since my Amur run (and I don't even run around with 605R often).

[@SD1ONE]

Forestor being bad at logging isn't a popular belive IMHO

[@Angelthewolf]

@ahriman935 I used the Forester alot too and don't really see what it has over a truck with a logging frame except for the part that it has a log crane which you will maybe need like once or twice

[@stephenmcdermott1218]

I stopped using the forester after I figured out it can't make it up any real incline it's like the big kenworth, a little underpowered.

[@ahriman935]

@@Angelthewolf In my experience a whole lot of logging missions take you through (surprise surprise...) the trees, and overall particularly narrow paths, where Forester (being articulated) is so much easier to manoeuvre than classic trucks. I overall find it just a very nice truck to drive and I would use it a whole lot more if it was capable of more than logging. edit: and if it had a roof rack [equivalent], I'm kind of a sucker for extra supplies. But I digress.

[@Yakuzer86]

Wow, picking clt9000 instead of kenworth/P512 is diabolical

[@Michalinus]

P512 is beast in pure mud. Same with kenworth. Not to mention kenworth have so much fuel.

[@justinlynch3]

Why? P512 and Kenworth both have special tires (default tires) and always on diff-lock making them far more capable offroad then the clt that only has normal UOD II tires and no diff-lock. Pretty sure the Kenworth can do everything the clt can and do it much better. Not sure if the P512 supports triple crane/bed/trailer combo or not, but it's still a far more capable truck overall. So why would he pick the clt over either of those? Clt and Transtar are objective the two worse.

[@Yakuzer86]

@@justinlynch3He said that clt is winner in 6x4 class, instead of p512 or Kenny, thats what im sayin

[@Michalinus]

@@Yakuzer86 it's about the worst in the class

[@justinlynch3]

@@Yakuzer86 Oh OK. Well this is a Worst Trucks competition. So the "Winner" of the worst truck award was the clt9000. Mean the clt is the worst truck. That's how this video operates. Though I can see how that could be potentially confusing.

[@distracted...]

how dare you insult my boy the twinsteer, it's one of the fastest vehicles in the game, and only unstable if driven incorrectly

[@SD1ONE]

A lot of trucks are good on their own but I am judging them based on the vehicle class they fall under...so its not necessarily the worse but less popular in its class.

[@distracted...]

​@@SD1ONEpersonally i use it by far the most out of the long frame trucks, the terrible fuel consumption of the paystar ts is a killer for me, the atom and the azov 7 are good but i find the twinsteer really useful for getting 4 slots of cargo pretty much anywhere pretty quickly

[@salvador_mano4x4]

Sorry sd1one, but i didn't understand the meaning of this video? It's top bad truck?? Then why is not the ankatra in tractors?

[@nordlordthe_dark_blue_drag512]

I think CAT 745C is worse than Antartic. It hasn't got snorkel and can't attach trailers. So Antarctic is the best superheavy in base game, but if you want to have more useful superheavies, you should buy DLC.

[@joshmorgan1948]

I've flipped the antarctic more or less every time I've taken it out. I've only got the 745 stuck one time, and it was due to physics fuckery when I tried to take a cross a bridge that it was too big for. It's my go-to refueling truck if there's no tight corridors to go through. I've literally never used the antarctic for anything other than trying it out a few times when I got it

[@MrCrowtheKing]

I find the Cat perfect for vehicle recovery, scouting and fuel supply

[@nordlordthe_dark_blue_drag512]

@MrCrowtheKing In your scenario K-7M will be more useful, because it has resque addon and more capable

[@nordlordthe_dark_blue_drag512]

@joshmorgan1948 In your scenario K-7M will be more useful, because it has resque addon and more capable. Antarctic is for delivering cargo in very hard conditions. Of course, they are rare conditions, but 745C is useless there. However, we must say 605R and Femm is much better, so you can use them instead Antarctic, CAT and even the other class trucks 😉 If you haven't maps with 605R and Femm, you can buy Mastodon. It has all addons and as capable as 605R in common scenarios

[@SlimTheBugGuy]

Dude no the tweinsteer is the best in its class hello?

[@Rich-fr2yv]

Surprised you didn't name and shame the Defenders. Especially the modern one. They are both completely useless

[@SD1ONE]

I think they have a lot of fans and nothing wrong with fan service but MTB isn't even that popular in India (the vehicle that its based off is Indian)

[@ahriman935]

The Defenders... oh god. I played around with those small, closest-to-actual-vehicles-you-might-see-on-the-street scouts and they're just..... My favorite test of a vehicle is the garage on the second map of British Columbia, the spawn spot is uniquely, already in the somewhat deep mud. The more modern defender couldn't even leave there without winching from a more capable truck. Despite being fully upgraded.

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[@kexcz8276]

DUDE, IT'S WORST, NOT WORSE!!! Worse means it is less good THAN something else- you need to compare when using worse! Meanwhile, what you mean is THE WORST-the most bad it can be! I can tolerate small grammar hickups in your titles, but THIS? Mistake so annoying and obvious that even 9 YEAR OLDS don't do it when learning it as a foreign language? Sorry dude, but this is the lowest low you could ever reach.... And It's really sad...