Rider Reacts to country KAREN

Green laning and Karens go hand in hand, so I wanted to look at a few videos that are floating around on KZbin and take a look at what gets said, how people handle themselves in these situations and what we can all learn from this. This videos is a mixture of green laning videos where an interaction between bikers and people that are not happy about it happen so sit back take it easy and keep on riding.
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Wiltshire ByWays
Video one - • Biker vs Landowner #2
North West Enduro
Video two - • Biker vs Angry Walker ...
TheMissendenFlyer
Video Three - • Upsetting the locals o...

[@Stratoliner]

I like the interactions that have a positive outcome, like that lady. They all left with a little laugh and a friendly handshake.

[@DITLO58]

100% agree mate. Might have painted bikers in a differly light for her. 👍

[@flydogone8355]

It's a tough one this. As an ex greenlaner/Enduro rider myself I know how these altercations can ruin your day out. However when I see the irreparable damage in my part of North Wales a couple of irresponsible lads have made just up the road from me, just because they fancied the challenge of a bit of off route hill climbing, I can understand the hostility. I'm beyond furious at what they have done to an otherwise pristine hillside. Unfortunately for the responsible majority of riders, they have left behind a permanent scar on the landscape that now represents all of you in the eyes of most people. Real shame because it used to be a fantastic hobby.

[@DITLO58]

100% agree and I think you will never win an argument but we can all at least communicate in a decent way 👍👍

[@victorluiz2008]

As a South African living in the USA, it's great to see interactions where anger doesn't turn into violence. If that was filmed over here, punches would have been thrown. Or worse.

[@dale-qz9dg]

"it's marked on the map" Conveniently leaving out the part that says "The representation on this map of any road ,track or path is no evidence of the existence of a right of way"

[@iamaparanoidandroid1]

The first altercation is pretty much the earliest video on a well documented issue, and one which Jimmy Kawasaki/WiltshireByways (the gent in the video - now sadly passed way) was involved in trying to get sorted. It's complex, but I think I understand it, so bear with me....: The route which he was trying to ride is described on the definitive map as "FOOTWAY FROM NORTH OF GREENFIELD FARM TO NORTH OF JOURNEYS END, SHURDINGTON, CHELTENHAM" but then has a USRN (Universal Street Reference Number) of 40102240. It is shown by the OS as an ORPA (Other Route with Public Access), which doesn't really clear things up. The issue is that the term 'footway' has no legal standing, but generally refers to a pedestrian route alongside a street/highway (the pavement/sidewalk, if you like). The TRF, and other motorcycle clubs, have argued that for there to be a 'Footway' recorded on the Definitive Map, there must also at some point have been a 'Highway' there, alongside which it ran, that has just been missed from the map, and so there are rights of road: "Once a highway, always a Highway" The Landowner argues that the use of the term 'Foot' implies that there are no vehicular rights but accepts that it has been used by horses, so it probably so it probably has a status above a Footpath and so should be a Bridleway. Gloucestershire Highways are none the wiser and, as far as a couple of years ago, were sitting on the fence and leaving it for one or other party to find some proof either way. The TRF have been working with the council to go through archives and try to sort it out, and have agreed not to use it for the time being; the woman in the video has been shouting, swearing and threatening any unwitting people who try to use the route, thinking that they are riding legally. I'll let you decide who is probably right...!

[@mellowr1]

R.I.P. JIMMY😔

[@MotoMerc]

Wait is that the Wiltshire Byways guy? I literally found most of the lanes i ride because of him. Sad to hear. Thanks Jimmy, im riding the lanes you showed me. Rest in peace dude.

[@mellowr1]

@@MotoMerc One of them is. the guy with the pickup is missenden flyer

[@DavieRooker]

Is the last one The Missenden Flyer?

[@IanM18]

Yes.

[@Leeoutdoors85]

100% the outdoors is for everyone! Great upload showing we all just want to enjoy being outside, I think as long as we all respect the green spaces and each other what’s the issue.

[@DITLO58]

Well said my friend. We all see life in different ways 😁

[@Ktm-jas]

I’m the same as you I stop and talk to everyone and I’m yet to have a problem , long may it continue. 👍

[@DITLO58]

Yearp 👍👍

[@malcomsmiff5035]

I am a biker myself and i think you are an absolute nuisance pal. these type of bike are too noisy. Take into consideration the animals you encounter as well as these lanes were initially for horses when motorbike weren't invented. People that live in the countryside generally move there for peace and quiet. .or have been there for generations. so consideration should come as a given.

[@McCaff62]

Not only what you said but lads yes not all but some go off the rights of way and trash up moors, i;ve seen it for my own eyes in the north pennies around Alston way and above semar water in the dales.

[@DITLO58]

These bike are definitely loud 😂 I live in the countryside and for the 30 seconds that it take a bike to go past is just the worst 😥.

[@rockgsxr]

tough , you don't own the countryside and you can't buy quiet. No one needs to explain themselves to these types