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Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake share their thoughts on some potential Mitch Marner trades.
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@thealbinorhino8760
@thealbinorhino8760 Ай бұрын
Marner is a weird player. He's elite but his value doesn't sound as high as you hope it is.
@late3619
@late3619 Ай бұрын
These guys don't have a clue, there just guessing.
@disinformationworld9378
@disinformationworld9378 Ай бұрын
Look up what PL Dubois got traded for with one year left.
@benoitrobitaille5235
@benoitrobitaille5235 Ай бұрын
Having Montreal trying really hard to get a decent french canadian player really drove the price up, is Marner real name Miche Marnier by any luck ?
@exturkconner
@exturkconner Ай бұрын
Value is based on two things, price and performance. Marner is elite but he's paid as an elite player. So he's not outstanding value. A high value player is always going to warrant more in trade then a guy that makes what he should.
@thealbinorhino8760
@thealbinorhino8760 Ай бұрын
​@exturkconner agreed. I don't see the leafs getting an absolute package of elite players back for Marner who is UFA in one year. If they do good for them. But his value is subjective right now.
@tonylloy327
@tonylloy327 26 күн бұрын
That trade 'proposal' with Vegas is an absolute joke 😂. No way Vegas makes that deal.
@tonylloy327
@tonylloy327 26 күн бұрын
Shea Theodore straight up for Auston Matthews, *maybe*.
@michaelbacon8698
@michaelbacon8698 Ай бұрын
A piece away was a 10m player named Jack Eichel while Vegas was a perennial cup contender
@JTAPtv
@JTAPtv Ай бұрын
They weren't even in the league long enough to be called a perennial cup contender lol
@thepolishprince851
@thepolishprince851 25 күн бұрын
@@JTAPtv more both cups and playoff series wins in 6 years than Toronto has had in what like 50 years?
@JTAPtv
@JTAPtv 19 күн бұрын
@@thepolishprince851 I'm not a Toronto fan so idc. When they got eichel they were not a perennial cup contender
@lordrayden3045
@lordrayden3045 29 күн бұрын
“By the way, Mitch is going to fetch a lot of stuff” Sure thing there sparky, keep thinking that
@tonylloy327
@tonylloy327 26 күн бұрын
Well, he actually should. But the way Leafs Nation has focused their anger and pounded on him since they got eliminated, they've diminished his trade value immensely. Just stupid.
@lordrayden3045
@lordrayden3045 26 күн бұрын
@@tonylloy327 No one is giving anything of value. Just wait a year and sign him just for money. Why would any team give up assets and do Toronto a favor?
@patjablonski9739
@patjablonski9739 25 күн бұрын
@@lordrayden3045 a) You don't know if he'll be available next summer, he and the Leafs could have a change of heart and do a deal or he could get traded later in the season and extend with that team. b) everything is time sensitive, if you're a contending team and you can get Marner now then you have incentive to do that and not to wait. Plus a trade can free up cap room on that team's end, which is something that the Leafs might be interested in since they will still be contending (think the Jets getting Vilardi, Iafallo, etc. back for Dubois and the Flames getting Huberdeau and Weegar for Tkachuk). c) very few players of Marner's age and talent become available at all in today's NHL d) Marner is incentivized to sign an 8 year extension post-July 1. If he goes to free agency he almost certainly isn't getting that 8th year
@davidsine1222
@davidsine1222 29 күн бұрын
Marner isn't waiving his NTC and leaves after next season and the leafs will get squat for him....can't wait
@lordrayden3045
@lordrayden3045 29 күн бұрын
Yep. Why would a team give assets when they can get him for just money next year
@Terminatedd
@Terminatedd 27 күн бұрын
It'd be nice if there was a rule that you couldn't give NTC's unless you signed the player 2mil under the market value. I think there'd be less those unmovable contracts. Calculating the "real market value" would be tough though.
@tonylloy327
@tonylloy327 26 күн бұрын
That would actually be what Leafs Nation kinda deserves with the way they've turned on him.
@radone97
@radone97 24 күн бұрын
Imagine believing youll get multiple pieces - nevermind multiple NHL roster players - for Marner.
@mikerichardson60
@mikerichardson60 23 күн бұрын
Leafs media is just as delusional as their fans. Nowhere but Toronto does Marner have trade value. Do the Leafs think no one else pays attention to what type of player Marner is?
@michaelbacon8698
@michaelbacon8698 Ай бұрын
Extending Hanifin was to replace Martinez not Theodore 😂
@safertobeanonymous2224
@safertobeanonymous2224 Ай бұрын
Definitely. Except all they do is go up to the cap. How do they fit in Theo at 8-9?
@michaelbacon8698
@michaelbacon8698 Ай бұрын
@@safertobeanonymous2224 worry about that next offseason meanwhile the cap will have gone up probably another 5m from the expected 87.7m upcoming season.
@skullmanwizard
@skullmanwizard Ай бұрын
@@safertobeanonymous2224 Vegas play with Salary Cap turned off.
@shinyuta
@shinyuta 29 күн бұрын
​@michaelbacon8698 I'm a vgk fan and shea was my coach in seattle, but they will very likely trade Shea especially if they want to keep marchy.
@RoamHockey
@RoamHockey 24 күн бұрын
@@shinyuta I doubt they would let a stud 28 year old Theodore go because they want to get a 33 year old Marchessault signed..no matter how good of a year he had, there is a cliff coming soon for him at that age
@jacobc548
@jacobc548 Ай бұрын
Marner to Detroit. we have just the d man for you.. Justin Holl.
@RyanJones4444
@RyanJones4444 Ай бұрын
What about Moritz seider
@ryanwoods9608
@ryanwoods9608 Ай бұрын
With how Leaf fans talk about Marner it seems like they would do that trade too
@Workingman22
@Workingman22 Ай бұрын
​@RyanJones4444 lol Sieder isn't going anywhere 😂 that's borderline delusional to even suggest Yzerman would move him.
@captsvpodcast
@captsvpodcast Ай бұрын
🤣
@user-sn8sw2vi8z
@user-sn8sw2vi8z Ай бұрын
🙄🙄🙄
@Alex18NY
@Alex18NY Ай бұрын
Basically, you need one quality piece back plus capspace and a future pick or prospect.
@alexleblanc5926
@alexleblanc5926 Ай бұрын
That's probably the most likely type of return if he is traded, there's value in the capspace especially if they can sign someone like Montour or Pesce.
@THIS---GUY
@THIS---GUY Ай бұрын
why do i have membership privileges and icon...? wtf i better not get charged for this edit it says gift membership so thank you mystery gifter
@jred1817
@jred1817 29 күн бұрын
Well now i want one
@tonykung8756
@tonykung8756 Ай бұрын
So when you're a seller on Marner, you're picking and choosing what players you want back from other teams and you want to save on cap space. I don't think that's how this works. A closer trade scenario is more like a Joe Thornton trade where Boston got a few smaller pieces back, and you're not getting full value back...
@markiv2942
@markiv2942 Ай бұрын
Let alone Marner can choose where he wants to go.
@lordrayden3045
@lordrayden3045 29 күн бұрын
It’s not at all how it works Hilarious to watch the delusion
@lordrayden3045
@lordrayden3045 29 күн бұрын
@@markiv2942 And that?
@KenCalgary-ne3jp
@KenCalgary-ne3jp Ай бұрын
Mitch Marner, the player Babcock sussed out years ago, the player who needed a non injury time away from hockey years ago at Christmas, the player who started pouting in the playoffs, one of the core 4 who go silent in the playoffs, realistically the Leafs want to dump this player badly are not in the drivers seat for any trade. Teams are not giving up their best players for Mitch.
@johnsummerhill8323
@johnsummerhill8323 Ай бұрын
Bunch of lies.
@hybaaaa
@hybaaaa Ай бұрын
doesnt mitch have the most points in playoffs out of the core 4?
@johnsummerhill8323
@johnsummerhill8323 Ай бұрын
@@hybaaaa yup
@tonylloy327
@tonylloy327 16 күн бұрын
It's all true that Marner is the least disappointing of the 'core four' in playoffs, and that many of the things that are rumored to have happened in the past are just that...RUMOURS. But nevertheless, all the noise in Leafs Nation about dumping him is not exactly putting Leafs' management in any kind of a decent position to be getting 'fair value' in return. If Marner refuses to waive his no movement clause and then walks away as a UFA next year, Leafs Nation only has itself to blame for turning on a guy who at many times has been the Leafs MVP. None of it makes any sense, except that Leafs fans refuse to stop worshiping Matthews, and they know they can't move Tavares, so Marner becomes the target by default. But their anger is focused in the wrong places, IMO.
@johnsummerhill8323
@johnsummerhill8323 16 күн бұрын
@@tonylloy327 No team is going to make decisions on what media or fans are saying. They make decisions based on their own staff.
@nesmegavanialink350
@nesmegavanialink350 Ай бұрын
Chicago won't trade for Mitch. They want to build through the draft for 3 or 4 years, no big splash right now.
@markiv2942
@markiv2942 Ай бұрын
Why on earth Mitch would go to Chicago?
@user-mt4ks4su3m
@user-mt4ks4su3m Ай бұрын
​@markiv2942 did you forget the blackhawks drafted bedard?
@Mr._Br1ghts1de
@Mr._Br1ghts1de Ай бұрын
I love hearing Steve casually swearing 😂
@THEGDB
@THEGDB 29 күн бұрын
They keep missing the most obvious player to target , Matheson from Montreal, the production and cap hit would be perfect for the leafs , but they wouldn't want to pay the price , probably nies and a 1st
@safertobeanonymous2224
@safertobeanonymous2224 Ай бұрын
You are half right. It’ll be after July 1 not just for the bonus BUT Because then it can be a sign and trade/trade and extend which can be done then.
@ilfautdanser9121
@ilfautdanser9121 Ай бұрын
@@ronmurray7349 and if he gets seriously injured where he has to retire, he's just flushed $100 million down the toilet. he'll do a sign and trade. he already gets to pick and choose
@user-mt4ks4su3m
@user-mt4ks4su3m Ай бұрын
​@@ronmurray7349guarantee that's not happening
@Flannman91
@Flannman91 Ай бұрын
Preds are a sensible destination for the following reasons: 1. Predators have plenty of cap space 2. Toronto needs a goalie and the Preds could trade them Saros (who makes only $5m next year) as part of the package. Preds have Askarov coming up anyway 3. Tennessee has no state income tax and players enjoy both low taxes and the nightlife aka preferred destination - Marner would likely waive ntc 4. Predators need offense 5. Nashville is in the Western conf It's a win for both organizations.
@2dfx
@2dfx Ай бұрын
So if you're the Preds and you STILL have to play regular season games - who exactly is their starting goalie? Askarov is 21...you're not throwing him into the fire just because. You still need a full time NHL-calibre goalie.
@jakethesnake8842
@jakethesnake8842 Ай бұрын
I'll take Askarov + for Marner
@leaf16nut
@leaf16nut Ай бұрын
@@2dfx Samsonov 🙃
@2dfx
@2dfx Ай бұрын
@@leaf16nut solid free agent singing
@markiv2942
@markiv2942 Ай бұрын
6. NOPE. There's no win for Marner and it's HIM to decide. And that's what counts. He wants a team that can win Stanley Cup. Nashville will compete whether to get into playoffs or not.
@WW3_Soon
@WW3_Soon 24 күн бұрын
A vast majority of NHL teams would love to have Mitch Marner on their team because he’s an elite playmaker, plays on the powerplay and penalty kill, is super exciting, will pack their arenas, etc. Yes, in the playoffs, he’s scared of being bodychecked, but some teams will still want him. GM Brad Treliving ought to get Marner to submit a list of teams he’s interested in being traded to and let there be a bidding war! The LA Kings would love to have him.
@davidmollenhauer7580
@davidmollenhauer7580 18 күн бұрын
Why would a team sign a player who is afraid of playing in the playoffs?
@timbender4184
@timbender4184 Ай бұрын
Love to see him in Jersey, and I'm sure we have something to offer.
@user-mt4ks4su3m
@user-mt4ks4su3m Ай бұрын
Never gonna happen
@anothergolflesson
@anothergolflesson 28 күн бұрын
Great discussion guys!
@ryanh1892
@ryanh1892 21 күн бұрын
Avs fan here: it sounds crazy, but if 'Rantanen for Marner' was starting point, what else would be thrown in for both teams to approve such a trade?
@jordanstapleton3180
@jordanstapleton3180 Ай бұрын
Wait and get him as a FA for free. If it is a trade GMs are going to take advantage of the situation and lowball Toronto.
@disinformationworld9378
@disinformationworld9378 Ай бұрын
Amazing how many people forget what Winnipeg got for Dubois from LA with one year left. Let’s stop the nonsense talk here.
@ilfautdanser9121
@ilfautdanser9121 Ай бұрын
if more than one meaningful team (to Marner) wants him, you needn't worry about lowballing
@dishlee18
@dishlee18 Ай бұрын
I doubt any team would trade for him without an extension being part of the deal
@jordanstapleton3180
@jordanstapleton3180 Ай бұрын
@@disinformationworld9378 Yes, but we are talking about the Leafs, the biggest joke of a franchise in all of professional sports history.
@Leafsdude_
@Leafsdude_ 29 күн бұрын
I think that's a good reason to think it's gotta be to Vegas for Theodore+. Anyone wanting Marner is probably going to want to negotiate with him first, to get him in on a new contract. Leafs can then ask to negotiate with Theodore in return. That said, personally, I still think all of this much too complicated to expect them to do anytime soon. If it happens, it'll be in August, not July 2. I wouldn't be surprised if Marner winds up just signing an extension with the Leafs.
@maxv658
@maxv658 20 күн бұрын
I am an Avs fan and I would not hate them going after Marner. I think it's a perfect situation for Marner. He doesn't need to be the guy, it won't be media hell and he will play in their top six with either MacKinnon or Raantanen.
@glaframb
@glaframb 29 күн бұрын
Leafs fans believe they will receive something good in exchange for Mitch Marner and Everybody else knows that nobody is interested in getting Marner Contract. A guy who is well known through the league as a Missing player in Action (MIA) when the playoff start.
@lordrayden3045
@lordrayden3045 29 күн бұрын
And after the year they don’t have to give anything up for him
@user-yh7zv2ep4p
@user-yh7zv2ep4p 28 күн бұрын
Who has no trade clause on Leafs? Five players (Marner, Tavares, Rielly, Auston Matthews, William Nylander) have no-movement clauses. Another three (Calle Jarnkrok, David Kampf and Jake McCabe) have modified no-trade
@86daytonaz
@86daytonaz Ай бұрын
Your pod cast as well as the “The Tip In” keep it real about the Leafs!.
@joelnoela
@joelnoela 17 күн бұрын
This is why I continue to say Marner is going to win a cup before the Leafs after he is traded.
@markdepaolis5271
@markdepaolis5271 Ай бұрын
So I know this will never happen, but a team that has a lot of futures(in terms of signed for 1+years) and good young dmen is buffalo. They also need goal scoring. It could also make sense for a player that enjoys playing close to home Unlikely it will happen that way. They also have something like 23mill in cap space
@MrFreeth26
@MrFreeth26 29 күн бұрын
Ding ding ding we have a winner. This was my pick too a few weeks ago when the wheels first went into motion. Will be interesting to see how the saga plays out.
@havokan45
@havokan45 Ай бұрын
Utah looking to make a splash could maybe make a move they have the pieces to do it but do they
@RobertHarridge
@RobertHarridge Ай бұрын
3 way deal: Marner goes to (insert team here), Maple Leafs get Erik Cernak from Tampa Bay, Tampa bay gets draft picks. Tampa needs room to keep Stamkos. Right now they don’t have the room, but moving Cernak makes sense, and Toronto needs a solid defenseman. He’s got 2 cups and came up through the Lightning system, worked with McDonagh, Sergachev, and Hedman, and coached by John Cooper. He’s also 26 years old, so he’s going to be good for a number of years. I think he’d be a good fit.
@sebastiand9483
@sebastiand9483 Ай бұрын
How does trading Cernak for Marner open up cap space?
@stephenellsworth964
@stephenellsworth964 Ай бұрын
Vegas also has to make a call on Marchessault and Stephenson. Both are UFAs on Canada Day.
@Azgoon69
@Azgoon69 Ай бұрын
How about Washington ? They desperately need offense and get younger, I just don't know if they would be willing to trade Tom Wilson and TVR for him
@mikeb.2925
@mikeb.2925 Ай бұрын
Zero chance Washington trades Wilson especially since his brand new contract hasn't even started yet. I do think Washington is interested though considering Carbery was his coach and Sandin his teammate. Washington has a massive amount of salary cap space coming available after this upcoming season.
@alexhirsch1039
@alexhirsch1039 24 күн бұрын
I think Toronto should look to Ottawa, Marner for Batherson and Chychurn or something like this. They get an extra depth winger and a top 4 D-man
@robb412
@robb412 Ай бұрын
NOBODY should care what value Marner brings to another team. He didn't bring it in Toronto despite multiple playoff attempts. Its too bad but the Leafs need to move on and get more of a balanced roster within the cap. Spread the scoring around, add more size/grit/intangibles. Period.
@markiv2942
@markiv2942 Ай бұрын
Sure, you can talk to his agent and lawyer plus the judge who looks the "no-trade" clause part and laughs at you.
@kowgan09
@kowgan09 29 күн бұрын
Trade with sabres for defence ?
@RoamHockey
@RoamHockey 24 күн бұрын
a very big no thanks, our blueline is stacked and it makes zero sense to go get an overpaid Marner for just 1 year and give up a huge piece..he is not even worth giving future considerations for at that insane cap hit
@mikerichardson60
@mikerichardson60 23 күн бұрын
No thanks we're trying to build for a playoff team. We don't need a malcontent who disappears in the post season.
@bijanravanbakhsh3530
@bijanravanbakhsh3530 26 күн бұрын
my arm chair gm mock trade idea - 3 team trade... toronto receives - s.jones + k.johnson columbus receives - marner chicago receives - #4 overall.
@QuinnWalker247
@QuinnWalker247 Ай бұрын
Nashville???
@user-mt4ks4su3m
@user-mt4ks4su3m Ай бұрын
PPPFFFFTTTTT
@jordanwillnance
@jordanwillnance Ай бұрын
Isn’t Theodore the same type of player as Rielly? Leafs need a RHD Shut down guy
@alexleblanc5926
@alexleblanc5926 Ай бұрын
Anyone who is a legitimate top 4 defenceman would be a welcome addition. They need someone who can take some pressure off of Rielly. He really hasn't had that level of a partner, or even someone who can play those minutes consistently. Pesce might be available as a UFA, he would be a nice addition but they need a major upgrade on the back end.
@user-mt4ks4su3m
@user-mt4ks4su3m Ай бұрын
Comparing Rielly to Theodore is delusion at its peak
@rb3158
@rb3158 Ай бұрын
Marner to Vegas for Petriangelo and Aiden Hill.
@ItsJared___
@ItsJared___ Ай бұрын
I'm sure the leafs would love that lol
@BranDon-xm2pp
@BranDon-xm2pp Ай бұрын
Terrible for the leafs. Pietrangelo is 34 and Hill isn’t good
@tonycaniggia
@tonycaniggia Ай бұрын
@@BranDon-xm2pp so that's good then because Leafs need to lose
@Falcon3e
@Falcon3e Ай бұрын
​@BranDon-xm2pp What Hill is good in the regular season and great in the playoffs
@user-mt4ks4su3m
@user-mt4ks4su3m Ай бұрын
Worst trade ive ever seen
@marcusberggren9241
@marcusberggren9241 Ай бұрын
Aaron Ekblad would be a solid piece for Leafs. problem is florida don't really need a mitch marner.
@user-mt4ks4su3m
@user-mt4ks4su3m Ай бұрын
That would never happen anyway
@marcusberggren9241
@marcusberggren9241 Ай бұрын
@@user-mt4ks4su3m never say never. He has not been at his best for most of the playoffs... Gustav forsling is the best defenseman in Florida, a guy picked up on waivers. Imagine that.
@user-mt4ks4su3m
@user-mt4ks4su3m Ай бұрын
@marcusberggren9241 no the leafs would never trade marner for ekblad
@Habsnsox
@Habsnsox Ай бұрын
Leafs are not winning any marner trade. Thats assuming he will waive his no trade clause. Marner has huberdeau written all over him and the NHL teams know it.
@late3619
@late3619 Ай бұрын
LOL, wrong.
@alexleblanc5926
@alexleblanc5926 Ай бұрын
What are you basing this off of?
@ilfautdanser9121
@ilfautdanser9121 Ай бұрын
hardly. Marner is 3 years younger and has a longer history of scoring lots of points. also, Marner gets to choose where he goes, Huberdeau didn't. that matters. the value of Marner is that he makes other good/great players better
@sublimedhaze7792
@sublimedhaze7792 Ай бұрын
​@@ilfautdanser9121 Marner deciding where he goes decreases his trade value for the Leafs😂
@user-mt4ks4su3m
@user-mt4ks4su3m Ай бұрын
​@@sublimedhaze7792not really tho like at all
@safertobeanonymous2224
@safertobeanonymous2224 Ай бұрын
Chicago works if Jones at 75% straight up for Mitch. Gives leaf’s 3 mil of cap and jones will be better on a better team. Jones is over paid at 9.5 but at 7?
@markhealy3595
@markhealy3595 12 күн бұрын
You're over valuing Marner. Think Monahan deal.... they might have to pay someone to take that contract.
@nickboyd6716
@nickboyd6716 11 күн бұрын
I know Toronto fans will hate this and why would they deal with Ottawa, but would Chychrun + Batherson + Bostons 1st round pick for Marner make sense for Toronto?
@redguard191
@redguard191 25 күн бұрын
The biggest issue with the Vegas trade is a simple fact. Marner for Theodore means Vegas is eating 5M. This says they are losing Theodore and Marner is supposed to replace Marchessault. Marner is an elite playmaker but he can't fit the goal scoring niche Marchessault is filling. I can see them moving Theodore but not for a Marner sized cap hit.
@skeptic10
@skeptic10 24 күн бұрын
Crazy talk. Just resign him. He'll probably want around 15M/y but being a team guy, he'd settle for team friendly discount 12,5M / 8 years.
@splitfinger7719
@splitfinger7719 Ай бұрын
Too bad the only time Mitch has bite to his game is when it’s time to negotiate a contact
@Lemontheparakeet
@Lemontheparakeet Ай бұрын
Yeah, a steady 90 point guy who is an above average playmaker who kills penalties 🙄
@johnsummerhill8323
@johnsummerhill8323 Ай бұрын
Hatred causes brains to malfunction.
@leaf16nut
@leaf16nut Ай бұрын
@@Lemontheparakeet Season, ooooooo..
@tonycaniggia
@tonycaniggia Ай бұрын
@@Lemontheparakeet looking at the toronto guys he's the last one of the "big 4" I'd take
@user-mt4ks4su3m
@user-mt4ks4su3m Ай бұрын
​@@leaf16nutyou probably can't even skate ooooooo
@strictlyroots7343
@strictlyroots7343 Ай бұрын
You know how the Leafs make trades then later realize how bone-headed it was?
@MrMrneil1
@MrMrneil1 28 күн бұрын
wing Marner, center Petterson, Tkachuk have identical age, goals, assists, plus-minus, salary, just Tkachuk with much lower shooting %. All three would be top player/ scorer on half the teams in the League. Marner could feed center Miller and Boeser, Petterson (6'2, hardest shot) could center wing Nylander.
@detailsdetails...9571
@detailsdetails...9571 28 күн бұрын
Yeah lets trade a point a game guy when you don't score enough goals. Sounds like the Jay's management group.
@scottcampbell5536
@scottcampbell5536 24 күн бұрын
He's a marshmallow in the playoffs ..
@grantstewart5236
@grantstewart5236 Ай бұрын
Why trade Marner if he is elite?
@alexleblanc5926
@alexleblanc5926 Ай бұрын
He's going to want more money and the Leafs need to allocate that money more effectively. They have holes to fill and moving on from Marner would make those necessary changes easier.
@user-mt4ks4su3m
@user-mt4ks4su3m Ай бұрын
Did you really just say that like Gretzky wasn't traded in his career?
@andrewbugler2913
@andrewbugler2913 Ай бұрын
Buchnevich and Parayko for Marner and Liljegren. Book it
@safertobeanonymous2224
@safertobeanonymous2224 Ай бұрын
If torotnot threw in a few 1rst round picks maybe. Pareko is a top pairing D under contract. Buchneyvich for Marner heads up maybe as Toronto gets cap and a player that fits need better.
@andrewbugler2913
@andrewbugler2913 Ай бұрын
@@safertobeanonymous2224 Parayko is a top 4 Dman on the wrong side of 30 with like 7 years left at 6.5, and back issues. This is coming from a blues fan, I love him, but I just don’t think he fits their window for real.
@alexleblanc5926
@alexleblanc5926 Ай бұрын
That's a proposal I've seen, and one I like. I think it fits multiple needs for the Leafs. Salary change is pretty even for next year so it doesn't really help with capspace, but would give them an upgrade on defence and a solid forward to replace Marner and someone who plays a different style of game. How much has Buchnevich played as a centre? Would give them some nice depth down the middle, even as a winger I think it could be a really nice fit.
@andrewbugler2913
@andrewbugler2913 Ай бұрын
@@alexleblanc5926 He’s been experimented as C for short periods of time over the past two years. It hasn’t gone terribly well, or at least not well enough to dislodge Schenn as 2C.
@andrewbugler2913
@andrewbugler2913 Ай бұрын
@@alexleblanc5926 he’s experimented at center for parts of this and last year. It’s gone poorly enough that he hasn’t displaced Schenn as our 2C, so idk that it’d be an upgrade.
@FadaPita
@FadaPita Ай бұрын
Keller and Durzi for Marner
@user-mt4ks4su3m
@user-mt4ks4su3m Ай бұрын
Wtf
@asharpbflat7179
@asharpbflat7179 28 күн бұрын
Trades are inherently always trades for contracts. Aside from the improvements a team needs on the ice, what all involved teams ALWAYS want are better contracts under their cap structure. So naturally, one-on-one, you would only trade: Bad for bad, good for good contracts. Of course there's no such rule, but if you're worse off contract wise after a trade, you'll at least want compensation within that trade, until it's fair again (draft picks, salary retained, etc). Sometimes when hearing trade ideas I find myself thinking that GM's can only ever slowly improve their overall contracts architecture. If they are smart and got the right expertise they might quickly improve their teams ON-ICE (short term), while still dealing with an overload of really really bad contracts long term that might become even more of an overload because these short term on-ice improvements cost them. As a Leafs fan I'm always afraid that that's exactly them. I might be totally wrong with that whole contracts theory and multiple bad contracts might be solved faster than I think. In that case I'd still like to know what experts think are good or bad contracts on the Leafs and why they think a specific bad contract is actually moveable. I wouldn't trade Marner until February. He won't bring much in return NOW (certainly no Theodore). February is when GM's are likely to overpay. Today the Leafs would rather have to pay compensation, or so it feels.
@gamemaster27
@gamemaster27 27 күн бұрын
I could see Mitch Marner as a LA Kings.. Its very much possible.. 💯💯
@alexrompen805
@alexrompen805 21 күн бұрын
I dont think it HAS to be a contender he will go to, Mitch wants to be THE guy and be paid as such, so I can see him being willing to go to a up and coming team where he can be that and get paid as such.
@daltonm.strongman2397
@daltonm.strongman2397 27 күн бұрын
Vegas get two cheap options because no Vegas state tax after this Hague and Theodore trade Pietrangelo Hanifin Mcnabb. Schenn White Cloud Gudas
@32riverrats
@32riverrats 28 күн бұрын
Ok Here’s a “what about?” What about Carolina sends: Orlov Defmen Drury Center 3rd 2025 Toronto sends: Marner RW 5th 2024
@johnathonmaldonado3565
@johnathonmaldonado3565 Ай бұрын
These guys have awful takes regularly. The only reason you trade a prime 100 pt scorer is because he disappears in the playoffs when it matters most. Why would a contender do that? 16 is not the missing piece for a contender.
@RoamHockey
@RoamHockey 24 күн бұрын
its incredible that Leafs nation does not realize that the entire value in moving Marner is what term he has left..nobody is giving up a ton for a 1 year rental 🙄
@neiltobey1746
@neiltobey1746 Ай бұрын
I am trying to will this into existence, but i want a nashville saros for marner swap
@TheMrMrhobo
@TheMrMrhobo Ай бұрын
Vancouver is having problems signing RFA Filip Hronek. Could a deal be made between those two teams?
@joechriste7052
@joechriste7052 Ай бұрын
Yes, please. I want Toronto to pay a mediocre defenseman 8 mil
@user-mt4ks4su3m
@user-mt4ks4su3m Ай бұрын
​@@joechriste7052he's one of the best right handed defensemen in the league ... are you OK?
@coltonnaslund
@coltonnaslund 24 күн бұрын
​@joechriste7052 he had 48 points without any PP1 time, which would put him number 2 on Toronto D for points and was a +33 which is better than any Toronto Maple Leaf. Leafs fans really are stuck only watching East games eh?
@user-mt4ks4su3m
@user-mt4ks4su3m 24 күн бұрын
@coltonnaslund I'm a leafs fan look at my first comment we ain't all like that lol I'm not just a leafs fan I'm a hockey fan I personally watch every game from every team
@handconstructed
@handconstructed Ай бұрын
03:51 There's gotta be a better way to say that
@johnhoward8668
@johnhoward8668 Ай бұрын
How about Ottawa. Brady Tkachuk?
@jaykanou7331
@jaykanou7331 Ай бұрын
Why would Ottawa do this?
@johnhoward8668
@johnhoward8668 Ай бұрын
@@jaykanou7331 Because I’m a crazy Leaf fan. I don’t believe anyone in their right mind would do it. That said, why does Marner think he is worth so much money when you consider what Brady Tkachuk is making. But it is fun dreaming.
@alexleblanc5926
@alexleblanc5926 Ай бұрын
Tkachuk's career high in points is 83, Marner has put up 90+ three times and had 85 in 69 games this season. Yes they are different players, Tkachuk is younger, and Marner plays with better players including the best goalscorer in the league, but that's why Marner will ask for more and he'll probably get it, it just doesn't make sense for that to be with the Leafs.
@johnhoward8668
@johnhoward8668 Ай бұрын
@@alexleblanc5926 Very well said. Thanks.
@user-bi6rm7eg9z
@user-bi6rm7eg9z 26 күн бұрын
Anyone remember Mats and his NMC. Marner will say the same thing ‘FU I’m staying till the end of my NMC contract’
@meshworkj
@meshworkj Ай бұрын
GOALIE!!!
@manbirb9216
@manbirb9216 Ай бұрын
its never been the same since he got that contract
@acalisal
@acalisal 27 күн бұрын
If he goes anywhere, which I doubt he will because why would he take a huge risk on a contract year, it will be to a team that is trying to make the playoffs. He doesn’t do well in the playoffs. He is a regular season superstar which can be great. A team trying to make a deep run is not going to sink 11 mill into a playoff ghost.
@JT-gi8rx
@JT-gi8rx 28 күн бұрын
Do they need a better goalie? Could consider a trade to Carolina for Kochetkov. Or the isles for Varlamov, but guessing Marner doesn’t want to go to a non-contender. Get Carolina to throw in another good player and a pick. Then go after some cheap ufa’s. Pat Kane had signed a super cheap deal with Detroit last year, and played excellent. Offer him a 2 year deal for $3.5 mill per, he would take it. Toffoli and or Monahan will sign cheaper contracts. Sign guys like this with the freed up cap space from Marner.
@stephanelesieur6322
@stephanelesieur6322 27 күн бұрын
Marner for San Jose 1 st pick done
@paoloricci4569
@paoloricci4569 26 күн бұрын
They should gutbthe defence before anything. Other than McCabe, everyone can go, Sign 2 of montour, pesce, Dillon ,demelo Rielly Robertson to Nashville for josi
@apaapsson4465
@apaapsson4465 Ай бұрын
Since we are already doing stupid mock trades, and Kyle Dubas LOOOOOOOOOOVES his guys... Marner for EK65, straight up one for one.
@felixnuc245
@felixnuc245 28 күн бұрын
new jersey is a team that could use marner and they have cap space and they are 1 or 2 pieces away from a playoff run. also the leafs could use 1 or 2 defencemen on nj
@FoodFollow
@FoodFollow Ай бұрын
Trade with a team that has cap space for a young player/s and picks. Use the cap space to get what you need now and at the trade deadline. Bring in Montour, Pesce and keep Lybushkin instead of always wasting your picks on him!
@DaaaaaBears
@DaaaaaBears Ай бұрын
Marner for Josh doan+, help out Utah and the leafs need the cap space and more north south players like knies for Berube
@joeynova9896
@joeynova9896 Ай бұрын
How about Mitch Marner to Vancouver?
@user-mt4ks4su3m
@user-mt4ks4su3m Ай бұрын
Delusional
@billk516
@billk516 Ай бұрын
leafs fans are overvaluing Marner
@sals79
@sals79 Ай бұрын
a player who consistently gets around 100 points and plays in all situations...of course we are going to value marner high!
@creepyrobsta5509
@creepyrobsta5509 Ай бұрын
@@sals79 Despite the face he NEVER has gotten 100 points!
@sals79
@sals79 Ай бұрын
@@creepyrobsta5509 sorry...99 points!! talk about nitpicking...jesus christ!!
@creepyrobsta5509
@creepyrobsta5509 Ай бұрын
@@sals79 It not a nitpick. Would you call a guy a continual 50 goal scorer who has never scored 50 goals? Mithc Marner is cloer to a 60 point scorer then he is a 90 point scorer as he hit 60 range 4 times but only the 90 range 3 times, and never a 100 points scorer!
@sals79
@sals79 Ай бұрын
@@creepyrobsta5509 i said AROUND 100 points.
@andrewbennett7610
@andrewbennett7610 Ай бұрын
What if it’s not a contender, what if it’s Chicago wanting to pair Marner with Bedard? Their 2nd overall pick and either Nazar Korchinski, the leafs can then trade any 2 of those 3 pieces for roster players in the $4-5mil range…
@lordrayden3045
@lordrayden3045 29 күн бұрын
Oh that’s hilarious Why in the hell would Chicago give up anything of value ? They can wait a year and get him for just money 2nd overall pick ………. 🤡
@lordrayden3045
@lordrayden3045 29 күн бұрын
Chicago can eat the salary, But you’re getting Seth jones back Miner for jones straight up
@andrewbennett7610
@andrewbennett7610 29 күн бұрын
Oh I see where you’re coming from, the rest of the league and the Leafs will just wait and do nothing for a year so Chicago can have Marner as a free agent, because that’s how it all works! Dickhead
@oliverquach9614
@oliverquach9614 27 күн бұрын
Chicago is still in tank mode
@lordrayden3045
@lordrayden3045 27 күн бұрын
@@oliverquach9614 You probably can’t mention reality to leaf fans
@stolendrones
@stolendrones 29 күн бұрын
You can have ONE defenseman. Hague stays in Vegas!!!!
@robertamaral907
@robertamaral907 Ай бұрын
Can't domi play center?
@alexleblanc5926
@alexleblanc5926 Ай бұрын
He can and looked really good there at points in the playoffs, but if they do move on from Marner he's probably their best playmaker. Keefe was playing him on the wing with Matthews quite a bit, guess we'll see how Berube sees it.
@stevenightfall6634
@stevenightfall6634 23 күн бұрын
I would say that Dangle and Jesse lost their minds, but I really don't think there was anything there to begin with...
@flannelfield5255
@flannelfield5255 28 күн бұрын
there's only 2 possibilities they are st.louis for binnington or Nashville for saros...
@mattbcameron
@mattbcameron 23 күн бұрын
Honestly wish Bruins could afford him.
@rickyaz8640
@rickyaz8640 29 күн бұрын
Leafs don’t have time for draft picks to develop, Jesse’s right. Players and cap space, that is it. AIM for Vince Dunn. That’s the target
@krakenspectacor
@krakenspectacor Ай бұрын
What about Seattle? /adam continues to talk over everyone
@kebecois71
@kebecois71 27 күн бұрын
Andersen, Xhekaj and 3nd for marner
@brianlowe3831
@brianlowe3831 22 күн бұрын
I know it would never happen. Im not dilusional. I get it haha. But man. I would love to see a line of marner Nazar and Bedard
@GutterTierGod
@GutterTierGod Ай бұрын
Just as a fan of Hockey and being a biased Canadian I would love too see Marner somehow make his way to Edmonto he's far away from us and we get to watch him light the league up with McDavid and Draisaitl
@MrFreeth26
@MrFreeth26 29 күн бұрын
Marner for Nurse, Holloway, 2025 1st Rd Pick. Hahaha the Toronto Meeeeeedia would have a breakdown.
@Michael-pg7rv
@Michael-pg7rv Ай бұрын
I would do Marner for Theodore and a 2nd + 3rd round picks
@Michael-pg7rv
@Michael-pg7rv Ай бұрын
Alternative trade: Marner and Robertson for Theodore (20% retained) and a 1st + 2nd round picks
@MrWs8791
@MrWs8791 Ай бұрын
​@Michael-pg7rv vegas dosnt have a 1st rounder till 2027, don't think Toronto wants to wait that long for the pick.
@user-mt4ks4su3m
@user-mt4ks4su3m Ай бұрын
Would never happen
@stephenkocot4119
@stephenkocot4119 27 күн бұрын
Carolina trades Necas for Mariner.
@dhunter1133
@dhunter1133 Ай бұрын
Jake Guentzel is better than Mitch, actually does stuff in the playoffs, and is a UFA costing no trade assets. Discuss why Mitch isn't the consolation prize.
@user-mt4ks4su3m
@user-mt4ks4su3m Ай бұрын
That's sentence made me sick to my stomach
@nm3724
@nm3724 29 күн бұрын
why would klingberg sign a 775,000 in toronto?
@Kyle-kt9qr
@Kyle-kt9qr 27 күн бұрын
Buffalo, Toronto gets 1 of Byram or Power plus
@andrewlittle6097
@andrewlittle6097 29 күн бұрын
Trade Mathews ! For Kempe byfield and Clarke Throw some LA picks and send Robertson and Liligren with him. 13.25 is cap flexibility.
@ritahoman5364
@ritahoman5364 28 күн бұрын
Why would Vegas want a player who gets lost in the playoffs and wants a boatload of money he doesn't earn. Besides, we're not paying him more than Jack or Mark. Besides, you don't want his contract either, why should another team want to gamble by putting all in on a reg season player
@Workingman22
@Workingman22 Ай бұрын
I'm gonna laugh if Marner doesn't go anywhere and is still a Leaf. 😂
@johnsummerhill8323
@johnsummerhill8323 Ай бұрын
Start laughing.
@user-mt4ks4su3m
@user-mt4ks4su3m Ай бұрын
Not happening. Keep paying more attention to the leafs then your favorite team tho that's cute
@davidsine1222
@davidsine1222 29 күн бұрын
He isn't going anywhere...he is going to put the screws to the leafs
@zackseager9825
@zackseager9825 Ай бұрын
Marner has been my favourite leaf since he came and ill be sad to see such an all around guy go
@user-mt4ks4su3m
@user-mt4ks4su3m Ай бұрын
Ain't no way your serious bruh☠️
@dansmaaslet6623
@dansmaaslet6623 28 күн бұрын
To the Canucks for Hronek, Silovs and and couple draft picks
@johntitorii6676
@johntitorii6676 27 күн бұрын
No way we trade silovs
@johntitorii6676
@johntitorii6676 27 күн бұрын
U thinking demko but u give us woll
@davidmollenhauer7580
@davidmollenhauer7580 18 күн бұрын
Marner has not waived his no-movement clause. Did i miss something? Colorado would never trade for Marner…as producer Drew well knows.
@neiltobey1746
@neiltobey1746 Ай бұрын
also, it owuld be funny if marner got traded to Jersey to play under Keefe again
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