Wait...Did The Colorado Avalanche Win The Rantanen Trade? | SDP

Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake revisit the Mikko Rantanen trade between the Colorado Avalanche & Carolina Hurricanes. Did the Avs win the trade? Then, we discuss the Buffalo Sabres and the drama that's following them.
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[@EamonnMcLean44]

I'd still say it's too early for winners/losers, but people pretending that Necas isn't also an Elite player like Rantanen was so intellectually dishonest. Even if Rantanen gets back to the form we all expect him to wherever that may end up being, Colorado still did really well man.

[@zach367]

Also, everybody knows Necas is a great regular season point scorer. This was more of a postseason move

[@kszela93]

Hire this man for his perfect takes

[@platapus112]

​@@zach367in Carolina. He wasn't playing with Nate

[@FalloutUrMum]

​@@zach367 Necas was one of the Hurricanes best playoff producers the last two seasons. He was identical to Guentzel last years playoffs despite not playing with the best players.

[@UrkaZerka]

@@FalloutUrMum .5 p/g in playoffs is not elite Necas wasnt a great regular season scorer. This is a career year

[@QuinnHockey412]

I'll just say the Avs are happy right now. Our offense looks new/recharged and Necas and MacK are super fun to watch together

[@cuff02]

It's easier for a player to fit into the Avs system quicker (especially with Nate, Makar.. etc) than it is fitting into the Canes system. Give Mikko more time and he'll find a way to shine. The best players always do.

[@RobynCorkran]

It’s easier because Necas is fast and that’s how the Avs play. He’s having fun … and that’s actually what’s being said and written about him.

[@cuff02]

@@RobynCorkran Yea Necas is a great fit for the Avs 👍

[@tophercabba]

tell that to jonhansen lmao

[@mdd47]

Canes got Rantanen because if you're going to get through the East, you need big bodies who can win pucks and play heavy. This wasn't a trade you make to win the regular season, they needed some size at the top of the roster for the postseason

[@godawful5600]

Exactly, people are overreacting so far. Way too soon to tell. Happy for Necas though, I always knew he’d light it up with another team ❤️

[@ludvact1]

Necas is better than people think. You can say he lacks consistency, right, but he is still relatively young and playing with Nathan in first line with Avs system makes a huge difference. With Hurricanes he used to play in 2nd line with some random dudes and mediocre ice time, yet he made it top 10 in league in points this season.

[@millionfish]

He made it to top 10, but then became ice cold for like the last 20 games. To be fair, he was playing with bums on the second line in Carolina. In Colorado, there's no reason he shouldn't be a ppg+ player with exposure to Mackinnon and Makar.

[@armswar]

While MacK was probably upset his buddy was gone, I think he realizes now that Necas always ZOOMING is great for his game lol

[@blakehelgoth5247]

In his interview after the Oilers game he sounded like a kid with a kick ass new toy when talking about Nečas.

[@mortekaieve4729]

@ Wild that some Avs fans are acting like the world is on the verge of exploding. It's like they watch game recaps and nothing else. Necas is going to be great on that line.

[@jtizzleforlife]

"always zooming" couldn't have said it better myself!

[@briggch01]

Mikko, or his agent, played themselves. They thought they could just slow roll the contract situation, and they could hold the Avs hostage with the threat of leaving in FA...and it didn't happen. Colorado made the difficult decision to trade Mikko. How is Carolina going to feel when they gave up what they did for a 3 month rental? To my knowledge, the Avs offer was to make Mikko the highest paid winger in the league. That SHOULD have been enough, because he keeps saying it wasn't about the money. If it wasn't about the money, and you loved being in Colorado so much, why wouldn't you sign the contract? It was 100% about the money. Mikko thought, or his agent convinced him, he was worth $13.5-$14.5M. He's good, but he is not worth that. To a bottom dwelling team he may be, but if he wants to win Cups, it isn't going to happen. People don't seem to realize the return the Avs got in this deal. Necas was the scoring leader on Carolina. He is also cost controlled for another year for about $3M less than Mikko. They also got Drury who seems to be a decent 3rd-4th liner with familial ties to the organization. Also don't forget the draft pick. The Avs need as many of those as they can get as they turn them in to decent players...like Devon Toews.

[@tophercabba]

and if necas keeps this up ,he wont be going anywhere he will be signing long term , this is like the lekky trade all over :P

[@UrkaZerka]

@@tophercabba he will price himself out of the team if it continues

[@seanreddy985]

Pretty much similar to exactly what the Canes did with Guetzel last year except obviously Avs got a better return than the Pens at the moment.

[@Lostsage01]

Two picks actually, 2nd and a 4th. I hate seeing Mikko go, but I agree it’s hard to argue with the reasons for the trade or the return, considering the possibility of having to overpay him to stay (see his last contract’s training camp holdout where he didn’t budge at all on his AAV $ ask, forcing the Avs to cave), or losing him for nothing in free agency

[@finefolly8182]

@@UrkaZerkaImpossible to say rn, especially with the cap going up. Goals pay, and Nečas is deffo more a playmaker than the natural goal scorer Mikko is. Could be he prices himself out, could also be he recognizes how Colorado’s system fits his style of play and he signs long-term for the guaranteed cash.

[@aarutuno]

Us Avs fans, we all knew what happened when Bednar moved Mikko away from Mack to spread out the offense. Mack still produced but Mikko disappeared immediately. The Avs organization always knew that and rated Mikko appropriately. The national media completely missed this fact.

[@maybesami4270]

Yeah no

[@godawful5600]

Untrue lmfao

[@finefolly8182]

Can’t deny Mikko drove the offense when MacK was hurt the year after the cup. Also can’t deny Mikko has nights where the effort feels questionable. If he finds that consistency I believe he can be that guy.

[@michaeldevaul2558]

Important note, the Canes locker room has been ravaged by the flu the last couple weeks. No one has looked good. Moose has also hit 3-4 posts that could have all easily been goals, and then this conversation isn't happening.

[@SplinterA7X]

Necas has hit just as many posts. Necas has more goals and points since the trade.

[@Double17L]

@@SplinterA7X sure, but canes give less playing time and are more defensive...

[@kszela93]

@@Double17Laren’t you acquiring a player like Rantanen for his point production ?

[@mdd47]

@@SplinterA7X ok. there's like.......half a season still to go, then the playoffs, which is when Necas' game always shrinks a little. What is even the point of "evaluating" a trade 6 games in? this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard

[@kevinschroll4890]

To be fair moose hit a ton of posts with Colorado too, it’s his shooting style and not unique since the trade. I think I read he struggled with new equipment he’s never played with before. It’s also a new team and sometimes takes time to adjust. That being said Necas and Drury adjusted real fast to Colorado. I think by the trade deadline there will be a larger sample size to compare and see how the trade is going… I have heard rumors that trade talks are struggling in Carolina like they did in Colorado. If I’m Mikko I’m waiting to see how I fit in before I sign a long contract somewhere I don’t want to be, if they lose Mikko after this season Carolina for sure lost the trade with everything they gave up.

[@kszela93]

It’s 6 games but it’s nice to see people realize that Colorado made a good trade. The outlook has rapidly changed from “Avs got fleeced” to “did Colorado actually win this?!”

[@dunkdamonk]

Real ones know. Necas is a stud. He was tied down with the system at carolina. I dont particularly see what the canes see in mikko as to how he fits into their system but time will tell. Mikko isnt necessarily known for working that hard

[@kszela93]

@@dunkdamonk that’s what I was thinking. If he’s not producing points he’s not providing a lot of value elsewhere. He took a lot of nights off in Colorado

[@GregObpar]

@@kszela93 Necas was beating Mikko in points when the trade was made by 5 points if you don't count empty net goals and assists on empty net goals

[@bgrace94]

Canes fan here. Our organization is an amusement park ride called “The Rod Brind’Amour Experience.” There’s a sign when you get in line that reads “No passengers allowed; you must exhibit this much work ethic to ride” and the picture on that sign is the famous photo of an absolutely jacked, young Rod doing pushups. Mikko is a) likely still pissed that he was dealt and b) can’t rely on Nate anymore. Once he buys in and embraces what we do he can fit right in. Still too early. And he’s injured today, which doesn’t help to build that chemistry. If we get to season’s end and he’s just not fitting in, then we’ll truly know. And in that case, I can feel comfortable knowing our front office simply took a a swing and missed. We will all soon know what Moose can do without MacKinnon.

[@dunkdamonk]

I love mikko but he was the usual suspect when guys start quitting on plays.

[@SteveEagles]

Do you have access to this photo?

[@bgrace94]

@ search “Rod Brind’Amour training” and the first video that comes up has that pic in it

[@marks6041]

Everything with RBA's "system" is predicated on dump & chase, outmoded man to man defense, & lets out-work our opponents for 82 spirit draining regular season games & then crash & burn in the playoffs every year. Lift more weights and waste energy practicing like the worlds coming to an end doesn't qualify as a viable NHL coaching "system." The Canes are 0-12 in ECF games since 2006. Until they prove that they can accomplish something tangible in ECF & SCF games they'll continue to be considered little more than regular season show ponies. Let there be no mistake about it, Rod the Bod has been outcoached in every one of the six playoff series the Canes have been blown-out of & eliminated in over the last six postseasons. He's proven to be a horrendous in-game tactician as the man is as stubborn and inflexible as they come. Making adjustments during playoff games & through-out a postsesson series is not in his repertoire. It's put up or shut up time and given the fact that the Canes roster remains dreadfully weak at Center & Goaltender, & their PP is a dumpster fire, I can guarrantee they'll be gone by the 2nd round of the postseason again this year.

[@millionfish]

If this team doesn't make it to the finals and/or Mikko walks, you gotta think someone loses their job? That's why the Rod extension was perplexing. He has choked year after year in the playoffs, yet still got extended.

[@frantisekvtelensky820]

I'm huge fan of Nečas, but srsly, judging this trade after only a few games is ridiculous. After 20 games we can talk. On the other hand I'm happy that Marty is finally somewhere when they fully appreciate him and give him the ice time he deserves.

[@keyvaunpourmokhtari6745]

...guys it has been like 2 weeks 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kf8478]

Avs fan and loved the Moose, but I think I like Necas for the Avs better and also got Drury and picks.

[@chrismartin2359]

Dude, I completely agree. Drury is so underrated. Against the Oilers he won the last 3 faceoffs to ice the game.

[@DustinMikkelsen]

Imagine if he comes back to Colorado ... that would be crazy.

[@KVGKQuake]

"Hey guys. My value tanked on the team you sent me to, and nobody wants to pay me $14 million now. Is $12.5 million still an option?"

[@254zero]

Obviously they won. They shipped off a UFA they clearly were not resigning for a major return

[@drevc]

A common talking point in the Denver sports media for the last couple of years was how Rantanen wasn't a top performer when he played with other line mates. He couldn't produce at the same level without MacKinnon there with him. Not saying he's bad, but rather that he wasn't the creator of opportunities. After the initial shock, this is where my mind has gone, and is what I will be watching through the remainder of this season for sure.

[@millionfish]

Those media personalities are right. I watched this year when he was put on the second line, he had trouble scoring.

[@QuinnHockey412]

Rants needs to fire his agent. I think the moose would still prefer to be in the mountains

[@HarrisonHollers]

It wasn’t up to him. Colorado traded him to get something in return rather than just losing him.

[@ArisenSquirrel]

​@@HarrisonHollersRant and his agent (able to get Draisaitl 14 mill) thought they were worth the same. Even though Draisaitl is better. Talks were on going and Mikko could have taken around 12 near Nate. There is no way they can offer more than Nate with Cale being up soon. Mikko didn't budge and McFarland didn't take the bluff so they moved on. Mack, Toews, Drouin are on discount prices to win. Can't win a cup with most of the cap on a few players (Toronto)

[@Cynthesis21]

@@HarrisonHollers It was up to him... He had been in talks with the Avs FO for a while but was being stingy and not accepting a deal. It's absolutely his fault that he was traded. He isn't worth more than MacK's current contract.

[@HarrisonHollers]

@@Cynthesis21 did you like your own comment? Lame. All that you said - that still didn’t mean he had to be traded! If you read what I wrote - he got traded so they didn’t lose him for nothing. Because they were not signing him.

[@thenextgreat8652]

@@HarrisonHollers You’re both correct actually. It was up to him as had he taken a few million less than his agent wanted, he retires in burgundy. But since he wasn’t budging, they traded him to assure they didn’t lose him in the offseason for nothing.

[@mtbcyclist]

Too early to say. As a diehard Canes fan a few things to consider: 1. Canes locker room was hit by sickness during this time in which many players (staff and even announcer) were out, or should have been out for at least one if not two games. 2. I think the Canes style of play is harder to adapt too. 3. Necas is super streaky and normally disappears in the playoffs while at Carolina. Need a much bigger sample size of NHL games to see if its a success/failure. I like both teams too as the Avs are my favorite western conference team so this trade was a win/win for me.

[@KVGKQuake]

It'll be interesting to see what both players do for their respective teams in the post season. I think that will be the deciding factor of who "won" the trade

[@SnowyTaco]

That Oilers Avs game a few days ago was playoff level epic!!! Yes, we in Colorado are very happy with Necas and Drury!!!

[@TwoFingerSaloute]

Rantannen is great, but let’s not pretend that playing with the 2nd best player in the world and arguably the best defenseman didn’t boost his stats BIG time…

[@chrisdoyle7626]

Exactly Go Av's

[@austinrolstad1792]

There is a serious bromance growing between Nate and Necas. I know Nate and Mikko are close but I always sensed some friction there.

[@dunkdamonk]

Nates tough to play with. Mostly because his passing is closer to lacrosse 😂

[@johntillotson3137]

@@dunkdamonkGuy with the most assists in the league can’t pass? 😂

[@AdamSandoval-yi8zm]

Miko Rantanen was traded for being too slow and not worth the contract extension from the AVS Marty Necas has tremendous speed.

[@natthaphonnoble2407]

Also work ethic, it’s been going on for a long time, he just doesn’t always put in enough and a lot of nights it shows and costs us.

[@thedankswordsmantm]

I hope you guys commit a good 20-30min to the EDM COL game from Fri. Amazing game! Also, how absolutely ass backwards is the NHL that: today's Gretzky, today's Orr, the 2nd best player in the world, the 3rd-5th best player in the world are all in a game together, and it's the only Canadian team playing that day BUT you can only watch if you live in EDM's region?! Those are the games you want everyone in North America, and beyond, to tune in for so you can sell them the rest of the product! It's assenine.

[@platapus112]

1:19 thank you Steve for the reaction to everyone who thinks Nate isnt the best in the league

[@toke7342]

Mcdavid and draisaitl

[@platapus112]

@toke7342 cups?

[@toke7342]

@@platapus112 june 2025

[@platapus112]

@@toke7342 so still zero?

[@finefolly8182]

@@toke7342 Hard to deny that McDavid is probably the best in the league but if you’d take Draisaitl over MacK you’re huffing some serious copium. Drai’s a superstar, but MacK is interstellar.

[@nonyabusiness-e3h]

watching all the people that have never watched an avs games tell us all about how we got fleeced and mikko was a "physical force that will no doubt continue his pace in carolina" was absolutely hilarious... mikko is an elite finisher, and a decent play maker. that is absolutely true. he is not and has basically never been a physical force that drives his own line. That amount of work nate and cale did for him to be able to put up the numbers he did was astronomical. His two way game is also severely lacking.

[@ABCowl]

As a buffalo Sabres die hard fan I didn’t think it could get any more embarrassing and then they do that. Like give me a break guys

[@markuskramer8666]

I still think it’s a win win for both teams aves got what they needed canes got what they needed. Necas was a better fit for Denver’s offense hence immediate success but think when rants gets comfortable there will help that team also

[@mercywilliams2698]

Carolina. It’s an interesting situation. As NHL fan at large watching a fair number of games featuring Avs…I always regarded Rantanen as the great support forward in the elite tier. Yes he benefited from MacKinnon but there were many times when Rantanen drove offensive outcomes. MacKinnon was followed chased and driven off the puck with his speedy talented playmaking. Rantanen tho would sort of bat clean up. He often had great moments because MacKinnon was being marginalized out. He was very inclined to effect points based on his own strong play. There are plenty of offensive variables on this Canes offense. I would think he slots in well with trial and error. Seth Jarvis with him might be a good line pairing.

[@millionfish]

Rantanen and Jarvis both like to play RW. That's why they probably haven't tried it.

[@layingthepoint8031]

Its pretty tough to jump into that man on man system that Briny has there . way tougher to play then what he was in Colorado

[@Eskolol]

Here's the thing: Necas wanted out, Rantanen didn't. Other guy is happy and other guy is miserable.

[@FalloutUrMum]

Necas didn't want out, that was always just a rumor

[@mdd47]

who says anybody is miserable? Gosh these comments are incredibly stupid. One guy has 9 points in 8 games and suddenly he's a superstar. Other guy has 2 points in 6 games and suddenly is a bum and "miserable" this is such laughable content

[@chrisdoyle7626]

In Colorado we trust Cmac and Joe 100% in all things. Go Av's

[@ShaqFuGuru]

Guentzel took some time to get going on the canes last year too. Rantanen got there right when the team had a locker room flu and just got dinged up. he gets to play with Aho in the 4 nations.

[@Kanders190]

It's funny to see people say "It's only been two weeks!", which is fair, but a lot of those same people were the ones going "LOOOOL AVS FLEECED. Mikko is top-10 in the league, what are they doing?!?!" two SECONDS after the trade. We won't really know who "won" this trade for at least a year. Gotta see if, and for what, both Mikko and Necas re-sign with their new teams or if they walk.

[@millionfish]

The problem with Carolina is, the coach coaches in a manner which isn't conducive to elite players thriving. Rod loves to roll 4 lines and isn't afraid to put his stars on the third line to spread out the talent. As a result, you have rookies playing on the first line and 5 game stretches where Carolina can't score any goals. Mikko's numbers will definitely suffer. In Colorado, he was on the top line and heavily relied upon. He also had exposure to Mackinnon and Makar.

[@chrischandler6355]

I’d laugh if somehow he signed back in Colorado

[@millionfish]

If Carolina doesn't at least make the final and/or Rantanen doesn't re-sign, someone needs to lose their job. That's why the Rod signing last year was perplexing.

[@flyingfluffyhockey]

I said this when it happened. Same thing happened to Huberdeau without Barkov or Bennett. Not saying Miko is Hub, but sometimes guys stats are a product of their systems and surrounding players far more than anything else. Canes system is where high end talent goes to die. A team of square pegs won't be saved by the round peg no matter how talented he is.

[@jeremybrazier786]

I said that the AVS won the trade the minute I saw it. Carolina style to play does not fit Mikko at all. It's like putting Usain bolt in a marathon

[@bafriesen]

Playoffs. Whoever goes further in playoffs will show a more likely winner. Regular season doesn't matter now. And Mikko has performed in playoffs, not Martin Necas. So I think I'll wait and see after playoffs. Drew can speculate on a 6 regular season game window like a moron. And if Necas does perform in playoffs then how much of that is the Mackinnon effect?

[@Jacksis]

There just needs to be more context here. The canes have been battling the flu ever since Rantanen got here and he hasnt had a consistent line. Even when guys are in the lineup, it's so obvious they're not well. Rantanen has been great so far and has created a ton of dangerous chances, as well as hitting a few posts. Long term they'll be fine and Rantanen will be potting goals like crazy.

[@chemguy5468]

Mikko is notoriously streaky at times. He could get 10 goals in their next 4 games

[@layingthepoint8031]

and 4 goals in the next 20

[@millionfish]

Without Mackinnon and Makar, I doubt it. He was getting fed like crazy in Colorado. I observed when they put him on the second line in Colorado, he had trouble scoring without exposure to Mackinnon.

[@UrkaZerka]

No one been talking about how bad Necas is defensively, look up goals against while he is on the ice compared to Rantanen, then see that Necas had 3 of the top 10 defensive pairings in the NHL and Mikko had the worst goal tending in the league and a less defensive system

[@lordb2k]

Nobody’s talking about it because????…. Necas is too busy scoring GOALS, ASSISTS, racking up POINTS, and making UNBELIEVABLE plays. All the While being a PLUS player, for the AVS, since the trade. Not to mention Drury is even SCORING, he’s MUCH CHEAPER than Moose. But, whatever helps you sleep at night.

[@kalebmcdaniel9147]

Rantanen played the last month in front of a vezina caliber goaltender and THE best defensive pairing in the league with THE best defenseman of all time get out of here lol

[@mikejames5546]

As said, it's still too early to tell, The Moose is a fantastic playoff performer, but I said the day the trade was announced that this works out wayyy better for Colorado than Carolina.

[@foster_15yt96]

All I'm going to say as an Avs fan is that I don't care at all about a 6 to 8 game span. I care about what's going to happen in the playoffs and Mikko has put up 10 plus points in every playoffs he's played in. Necas needs to prove himself in the playoffs

[@ostarakonrad9907]

You just stated how i feel about the leafs. I will not discuss them until they have actual playoff success.

[@f41l6]

I've got to admit I was totally wrong with my initial reaction to the trade I was totally unaware how good necas is. I'm still going to miss having mikko on the avs but I've absolutely jumped on the hype for necas since joining the avs the team has had a new life to them

[@finefolly8182]

That top line has an entirely different feel to it now. Necas and Mack are *elite* possession players with incredible speed and top-notch zone entry.

[@davidmills5286]

As an avs fan, Rantenan was a great player. But rarely drove his own line. He was always with Nate. Nate would sometime double shift with third liners and elevate them. Rants was elevated by Nate dogg. Still a great player, but without that caliber of player to open the ice up or drive the entry speed, Rants isn't as top tier.

[@JamieTheBangles11Fan]

add one hell of a defensive play that led to the rush that Necas got the game winner last night. Necas and Makar are only 26. Mac and Lehky are 29. Scary.

[@finefolly8182]

If we can draft well to support the big guys into the future (looking at you Washington,) they will be good for a loooooong time

[@pdubb4]

Necas fit in to both because of his speed and Rantanen will have to change his game to fit in with Carolina.

[@superp0tato]

Rantanen ..... traded at the deadline ? (again)

[@ChurchOfTheHolyMho]

If Rantanen doesn't want to sign with the Canes, do they flip him before the trade deadline - so they don't give him up for nothing?

[@mikhailov08]

As a hurricane supporter the office massively undervalued Necas. It should have been KK with Drury and we had plenty of other players with deepth to add. Necas has gone to a line that suits him to a tee, in saying that we could of had that at Carolina with rantanen coming over. Big time F up by the hurricanes office

[@Kanders190]

1:19 That was personal AF

[@lindennicholas89131]

You go to the Canes to NOT score points....... what are we doing

[@bobkuboske6494]

Rantanen will do really well, but he's got a lot to learn. He's played almost his whole career in one system with one coach. He's gonna break out towards the end of the year. I don't know that he'll get the points he was in colorado only because he's not going to be playing with MacKinnon and makar. But he might also surprise everyone and be the head of that offense once he learns it. Too early to tell

[@akme1974]

This was a true win-win

[@saschaganser9671]

Avs might have gotten the better one there. Necas seems to fit really well into their top line with his speed, and he plays D. Having him signed for 6,5m next year is huge, but Necas has always been streaky so far. Who says this doesn`t continue? If the Avs had McDs contract on the table for Rantanen (12,5 * 8) he would have signed.

[@shawnmorse2434]

I think whoever is playing with 29 is the winner

[@123wsz]

The avs won for sure. Not sure why every avs fan thought moose was all of a sudden one of the top 3 players in the nhl.

The Avs weren't going to pay Mikko 14m. Even if what was true from rumors that they offered him 11.75 per, he was not willing to settle for that. The ONLY way at this point that Carolina wins this trade is if they win the cup. I don't foresee that happening cause the Avs are going to do that. It was far better for the Avs to get something from Mikko than to to lose him for nothing in the FA market. I think it would be hilarious if Mikko comes back and resigns in the off season with the Avs and they become an even larger power house than they already are but I am not sure that is feasible since Makar is going to be coming up on contract renewal soon and the Avs are not letting him go....

[@alexplatt7592]

If you just looked at mcdavid and eichel first 6 games you would thought eichel will be the better player. Give it at least 20 come on.

[@natthaphonnoble2407]

Aho- to Mack hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@trulsruhk]

You guys realize Canes played all but 2 games since his acquisition on the road and the flu going around the team and everyone being sick right? Right? Like that's been a story every night for the team. Players missing games. And then he gets hurt from a shot to miss last game before break. Combined with adjusting to RBa system. Every big player, guentzel, Trocheck, Skjei, burns, Hamilton... They all struggled at first. It's 6 games.

[@Factus66]

Moose is ... Lost. Without Nate Dogg, he isn't Miko.

[@TitaniumExpose13]

Necas on the Avs will outscore Mikko on the Canes.

[@Dx-so7jm]

Cant Colorado just resign him ?

[@JohnnyFalco]

They could, especially if his stats slump the rest of the season and his value goes down. He might be salty with the Avs brass, though... It would take swallowing a lot of pride to come back to their number after getting traded

[@GregObpar]

Yes, but they are better off if they don't

[@anthonydeangelis4483]

i was actually wondering the same thing. if he keeps this up he won't get that value on the open market, maybe he would come back for the home town discount he supposedly offered.

[@Boo4uHalloween]

I guess Robin needed Batman after all...Batman being the mvp Nathon Mac

[@fishfoolishness4222]

Rantanen should resign with the Avs as a free agent. Gets his money AND gets to play with Nathan again AND he plays for Cups for the next how many years.

[@robertweber5507]

Canes are weak down the middle... only Aho is solid... past Stanley Cup winners have tremendous two way center depth and shutdown defense... only Slavin qualifies as top tier... Canes getting bounced again in the playoffs until they understand playoff hockey is much different than regular season... Analytics gets you into the playoffs but doesn't work in the playoffs.

[@skc1486]

Carolina 5th in goals scored. So players only go to 4 teams to get pts? Lazy analysis.

[@FalloutUrMum]

The Hurricanes goal scoring is spread out across the lineup, they are the deepest team in the league, that's their strength. No top star, but a whole team of people who can score

[@kesler4245]

This entire podcast is lazy analysis by your average clueless hockey fan, Steve should've stayed at SN

[@millionfish]

They are 5th, but it seems like they score goals in bunches. One game they'll have 7, and then fail to register more than 1 goal during a 5 game stretch (this happened prior to Saturday). Their offense isn't consistent and their top guys can't use brute force to score goals like McDavid, Draisaitl, Mackinnon, Matthews, etc can. Their top guys also regularly get demoted to the third line like Jarvis and Svechnikov. As a result, they can't get into a rhythm and play with their other top guys. Mikko did well in Colorado because the coach wasn't afraid to attach him to Mackinnon's hip and play that line 25 minutes a night. Not to mention Makar and Toews breaking it out to those guys.

[@Seppana]

Have you watched the games or are you just looking at the stats? Rantanen's been great and very unlucky not to have 3 or 4 more goals. His underlying stats have also been great. Just wait and you will see his stats go up as well.

[@milieu675]

The AVS won this thing the whole time That's what the AVS do. They fleece. They don't get fleeced.

[@LeonExile05]

Damn, is Rantanen really not that good without MacKinnon? lol

[@thezachster1234]

Also. The canes have been destroyed by the flu for the past week. It’s too early to tell. Playoffs are the big telling factor

[@MrPchui]

how can COL screw Cans twice and GM still have his job. Every above average wingers will look good play with Mcdavid, D29 and Mackinnon

[@s.p.8508]

I’ll trade Dobson and a first for Rantanan. Come on home Mikko.

[@harrycrumbs]

Yall gotta make money so these dumb videos are forgiveable- but at the end of the day the canes system is hard. Thats why we got him early. It will take till april for things to look smooth. Both teams won here.

[@Supranovas]

Way too little talk about Martin Necas..... jeez

[@CO_Yeti]

yes

[@Volbx]

its been a week dayum

[@ThatGuyAlex69]

Easy there with the "shitty blackhawks" mister Fn 1st round exit 😂

[@4yules]

both wanted out .

[@ryandouglass7247]

tom wilson beat olivier

[@LongJohn420]

way....too... earlyyyy......

[@cheddarandsourcream]

This trade is really just showing the superstardom of MacKinnon. Aho is a great player but he ain’t Nathan MacKinnon. Gonna be a lot harder for Rantanen to rack up as many multi point games.

[@gorgeousgeorge5173]

Its beyond me how someone whose paid 10 million decides to dump his Stanley Cup teammates, and one of the greatest players in the game, to leave for MAYBE a milly or 2 more. But, I'm an unemployed shlep so what do I know?

[@gorgeousgeorge5173]

Ratty is not Draistl.

[@chrisv384]

isnt this typical american way of looking at sports.. is he a failure? player A got 4 points in 2 games and player B only got 3...

[@Taisto75]

Who says Avs offered Mikko 8 years? They weren't close in negotiations, pretty easy to figure out that both sides were NOT talking about 8 year contract..

[@lukewilliamson4178]

He doesn’t have MAKAR anymore. Cale Makar is the greatest player ever to live. Nate’s very good, McDavid is very very good, but Makar is the greatest player ever. Period.

[@okyouknowwhatever]

Why is all talk about hockey nowadays how much money someone makes. 🛌🛌🛌😴😴😴

[@platapus112]

Because everything revolves around the cap, whose overpaid and whose underpaid

[@GregObpar]

Cause money is power lil man. Maybe you might make more than minimum wage one day. Then again, maybe you won't

[@okyouknowwhatever]

@@GregObpar People who follow sports because they're obsessed with money are weird. There are way better outlets for that particular kink.

[@kropking]

@@GregObpar Money has no power other than what you grant to it, lil' man. The power is inside you. If you need money to feel better, it only means you don't believe in yourself.

[@GregObpar]

@@kropking Another minimum wage slaver who will never be anything in life. Stay coping goofy