Seagull 1963 (42mm) mechanical chronograph

Thanks for sharing this one with us Tony.
This is a watch hobby favorite in the affordable mechanical chronograph, very hard to top it.
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[@rickhammel9541]

42mm is perfect, the 38 is great for your lady to have a matching watch

[@jorgerosas5138]

We toured the 38mm version! Absolutely loved it!

[@MyAffordableWatchCollection]

I have (and reviewed) the 38mm with an acrylic crystal. It is one of my favorite watches. I think the 38mm version is much better proportioned and thus looks better. Great review Rob.

[@user-yo3gj2tq6n]

I agree! Also, I watched your review - very well done! Love your channel and kudos for the giveaway

[@thetimemachine3828]

Yep. I agree, on both points. I could have chosen sapphire for the same price, but that domed acrylic? Far superior visually (and Polywatch is our friend!). I do however, like the 42mm Panda dial 'versions' made by Sugess with the same movement. Can't have too many Column Wheel Chronographs!

[@ryanstafford8544]

Have always wanted one of these but never pulled the trigger. Thanks for sharing!

[@TheWayofGrace89]

This is THEE budget chrono!

[@awesomeak47]

Mine is finally out for delivery today, can’t wait to check it out.

[@elarson312]

Very cool looking watch. The blue hands really add to the look.

[@thetimemachine3828]

Hey Rob. Just out of interest, I have a wrist size of a little over 8" and I wear a 38mm version without an issue. I do wear it on a riveted strap - any strap detail close to the lug ends tends to food the eye and help a smaller piece look larger, the 'vintage' style straps with twin horizontal lines near the lugs do the same thing... Something I always like to mention when I see videos like this 'cause I don't believe guys with large wrists should avoid sub 40mm pieces. This, for all intents and purpose., is a vintage piece: it's not supposed to be a large watch by current standards - despite being an aviators watch. Legible? Yes. Large. Not necessarily. I enjoy your posts mate, and enjoyed this one. Not many reviews of the 42mm 1963 on YT. That case shape? It's bloody gorgeous!...the way it tapers in? Great design. It's those little extra bits, those curves to the taper that don't serve any practical purpose and are done just for beauty's sake. That's part of the appeal of watch collecting. Cheers, and stay healthy.

[@andrewd7586]

The 38mm is the “genuine” one/copy. I have a smaller wrist 6 3/4” so it’s more suited to me. But I do have & wear 42mm & slightly bigger but I wanted the more authentic version. Great watch, looks fantastic & keeps great time.

[@EscapementWatch]

Seagull is awesome! Love the Swiss Chrono! I gotta get one on the Channel one day so i can hold that beauty

[@drwindsurf]

Such a cool watch. Thank you for sharing this one with us Tony. Great review, thank you Rob 😊

[@andrewhannam.]

Really like my 38mm Sapphire model... wish I held out another year for the swan neck regulator upgrade on the newer ones.

[@chriswatchreviews4752]

My Mercer Lexington Chronograph uses the exact same movement, and I absolutely love it. Was my first mechanical chronograph

[@wasknownasthemedriocre]

Definitely on my list. Should be on everyone's list, actually 😂

[@XavierAncarno]

Ordered mine a few weeks before the quarantine from Europe... according to my tracking, it left Singapore 2 weeks ago. must be stuck under a mountain of parcels at customs 😅😅😅

[@JB-qt8eh]

Ordered mine on May 3rd, just got a notification from USPS, it's in transit, so excited, can't wait.

[@jeffreytan2948]

And it even has the gooseneck regulator

[@Danieloncarevic]

FYI: There are now 3 sizes: the good old 38mm, the big brother at 42mm and the middle one st 40mm.

[@twentysixand6228]

I own both the 38 and the 42, love them both. I think that the proportions are better on the 42. Even with my small wrist.

[@johnnyarsenault9124]

Always wanted to get one but always hesitated because of quality BUT you convinced me with your video👍👌, specialy the see-thru back.

[@jeffreybowden9835]

The aesthetics, cool factor and price, in 42 mm reins supreme. Thanks for another good review.

[@krystianstepien5835]

The bigger the watch is the thinner looks :) 38mm looks almost wide as high :)

[@josepmariaaguascaribot9239]

The cheapest chronograph fitted with pillars wheel. Suitable for a chronograph intensive use in comparison to the weaker levers.

[@TheDobbermn]

I've always loved the look of this watch. I've gotta just stop looking and buy one.

[@kyleleung333]

I"ll agree you on the larger choice, the smaller one with winding is just a suffering to do, especially when you have to do it daily.

[@andrewd7586]

Kyle Leung Are you by chance a millennial? I’m a Boomer so my gen is used to SOME effort!🤪🤣 Don’t worry I’m only winding you up! 🤣😂🤣😂

[@awesomeak47]

Great review, I just ordered a 42mm version!

[@lfcmarkeb7124]

pulled the trigger on the 42mm 👍

[@anazanuar5650]

CERTINA DS ACTION PRECIDRIVE, HAQ MOVEMENT, I JUST BOUGHT IT AROUND $320 NEW. IT'S AMAZING!!!😍 😍 😍

[@seanpollard4844]

I got the panda version and it is excellent. Great review! These look great on a variety of straps too.

[@Allthesmallteas]

I love this watch.

[@mipal7]

Ordered mine about a week ago and am waiting for it to arrive. Great vid!

[@Theonly_gl00m]

Whwre did u order? Cant find any that aren't sold out

[@Animalkisser]

The 42mm it is easier to wind and you can see more of the movement.

[@JA-re8gi]

I order the 38mm after watching your video, it will arrive from the far east in approximately 6 weeks. Hopefully there's no "extras" that come with the watch.

[@southnx]

Very cool piece, that dial coupled with the exhibition case back just makes this fun to look at from both sides!

[@diegopatete7648]

In my opinion the 38mm version is still the best one.

[@LiangTiTan]

I have one but the movement feels rough. When i press the Stopwatch start button too slow, it jumps 5-15 sec negative. When i push quick and firm, the stopwatch starts correctly. So when you buy, check the stopwatch by pressing start button slowly. They did not polish the gears and levers.

[@roamy3605]

It's still amazing that you can buy a fully functioning hand wind mechanical watch with a column wheel for this kind of price. If I recall correctly this is the Swiss Valjoux 175 movement. Valjoux sold all of their machinery to the Chinese back in the early 1960's when they wanted to move on to other movements. The Chinese have been using these machines ever since to make these. I wish I could buy all the machinery for the Lemania 5100 chronograph movement. You know, because the Swiss aren't really using it. Well, maybe Breguet but I'm not sure.

[@mariog7213]

As I know it they bought out Venus and it used their movement...who knows

[@roamy3605]

@@mariog7213 Thanks Mario: 100 % right. As a rabid old school chronograph guy I just throw out out movement numbers and I hope I get it right. I like to think I'm cool knowing all the ins and outs of every movement from every chronograph. Guess what, I don't always get it right. I appreciate guys like you letting me know this as it gets me back into my watches again. I actually still own examples of the 175 and 150 movements before they became Russian and Chinese Movements. Both of them are from the late 1950's and as far as I know have not had a service in a long time. And they both run really good.. Thanks man

[@LeoBond]

Looks huge! I think if I get one it'll have to be the 38.

[@neilpiper9889]

Chemically blued screws, not painted. This watch is available with Sapphire or Acrylic too. I wouldn't buy the mineral chrystal version. The scratches can't be polished out.

[@TennesseeMike]

LIW sells this watch. I've seriously considered Saphire version.

[@strannostrannovasrr]

Winding this watch probably easier than winding my 38 version

[@Star_Sn1per]

Always had an affinity for this one.. China does make some really nice watches.

[@alvinrodney6229]

Rob, what happens when you press the bottom pusher (at 4 o'clock) after having started the chronograph (pressed 2 o'clock pusher)?

[@williamsipe1151]

I have the 38 and love it. I think I'll hold out for a 40. 😁

[@veeaa]

A commie watch on a NATO strap is just too ironic for me ;) or a Vostok for that matter! I just love that gorgeous movement though! EMG DL63 is a great alternative watch with the same movement. Not listed on their website anymore unfortunately.

[@jonas7208]

veeaa Btw that the NATO strap is called NATO strap has nothing to do with the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation, but rather with the product number during the developement :D

[@lelok0958]

Cant wait for the lorier gemini review

[@scottsj4625]

The 38 and 42 are the only affordable fully mechanical watches I have ever found. I did not know about the 42. When I was looking at mechanical ones I could not find one under 500, not even under 1000 that was not Chinese.

[@JeeGee114]

Check out the 40 mm Bulova Accuswiss Murren with a Selitta movement on E Bay.

[@franciscovargas9059]

Someday I will own one

[@ezcampergmail]

On my list to acquire at some point. Love it.

[@paulzabit6520]

I believe it’s a sapphire crystal??

[@lengx.9798]

This is not an authentic seagull 1963 reissue. It's a homage, made by red star, not from Seagull Tianjin factory. The real one has "Tian jin" in Chinese printed on dial and the homage one only has "made in China" in Chinese printed on dial.

[@DanboShaw]

That's true, but the history of the "Seagull 1963" reissue is quite confused. Though the original watch was made in the 60's by Tianjin Watch Factory for the PLA Air Force, IIRC a reissue was first made by Hong Kong Tsinlien Seagull in the mid 2000s. The employee behind making that reissue, Thomas Leung, left the company to form Red Star watches and started making his own version. Tianjin Seagull didn't start making its own "official" reissue until a few years ago, after seeing how popular the versions made by other companies were! forums.watchuseek.com/f72/thomas-leung-talking-1963-re-issues-china-watch-clock-fair-2019-a-5040623-post49928425.html#post49928425

[@oldiesfreek]

At least the 19-jeweled version with acrylic crystal that I have is closer to the original. The price for the acrylic and sapphire ones is the same too. I prefer a more authentic homage.

[@user-ig6nu4oo5p]

Well since i (like most people) can't read chinese anyway, it doesn't metter to me what is printed on the dial.It's just a cool watch to have.

[@hulkingmass]

@@DanboShaw that would be all fine and good if people didn't call the red star version, or any of the other versions a "Seagull 1963". There are countless makers of these homages and all of their owners call them Seagulls. None of them are Seagulls.

[@MrBacchus18]

Didn't realize they made a 42mm

[@WINDINGCROWNS]

I really like it. Hmmm?

[@Edward1312]

I have the ST19 in an MWC watch and it has malfunctioned, the start button resets the chrono secondhand on the second push down instead of stopping it. Start button should only ever start and stop the chrono hand not reset it, that's the job of the lower (below the crown) reset button. Any ideas how to repair this?

[@andrewlim7751]

I understand that the Chinese don't lube the ST movements when they sold in bulk to OEM watch makers, just send it for servicing and it shall be fine, that's why I prefer to buy direct from Seagull.

[@gusthesailor4885]

@@andrewlim7751 Servicing this movement is expensive

[@markphillips2072]

Still offering to send you my white dial titanium bezel sellita movement Hamtun Kraken 2 know you like those white dials even has the plastic still on it .

[@frankschroth1919]

I know that size of a watch is of anyone's own taste, but to me this watch looks to big on your wrist, ( and that's just my opinion). But nice looking dial.

[@andrewlim7751]

I feel 40mm is a better match.

[@runrin_]

i have the 38 mm one of these and it runs +15 seconds a day. once in a while when i try to reset the chrono it does not work. i have to start and stop the chrono again to get it to reset. i think the hands look painted (not blued), which i find unattractive. the wart on the totalizer hand is ugly too. the movement looks over-polished to me as well. shiny and cheap looking. its a cheap chrono, but it's pretty meh. the strap it comes with is garbage, and you'll definitely need to replace it. overall id say to look elsewhere.

[@watchdogpodcast239]

First

[@RandomRobReviews]

Nailed it

[@user-uy9qm6ch3x]

中國制造

[@tezzanewton]

It definitely looks nice but I couldn’t bring myself to wast money on disposable Chinese junk.