In the Prog Seat: 100th Episode! The Prog Albums We Can't Stand-THE SEQUEL!

[@shanehouse1]

Listening to a discussion amongst people that truly have passion for what they are talking about is quite a treat. Thanks for all you guys do.

[@renlessard]

"A dedication to racket that I just can't abide" That is a great t-shirt quote. Thanks again George

[@johnnybmdrums]

The first one is one of the best SoT episodes ever. Can‘t wait!

[@bradjackson4595]

Congrats on the 100th episode which was very entertaining as always guys!

[@nectarinedreams7208]

Glad Chuck can make it this time. I cannot wait for this!

[@ScottBerry-yn8rw]

Congrats on the 100th episode guys! Quote of the day goes to Luis for "If an enema had a voice, it would sound like that!"

[@TheProgCorner]

Another great episode!!!

[@DropAnchor1978]

I was surprised that Eddie Jobson's The Green Album got panned. I really liked it.

[@bertkarlsson1421]

This episode was great! Some of my favorite albums got mentioned!

[@PatLBestEver]

Why are people saying they disagree with the picks? It's the panelists personal takes. It's not up for debate. Makes no sense to try and tell people they're wrong about the things they like or dislike.

[@ericporter344]

Bingo, and all in good fun! Thanks Patricia

[@ElrondHubbard_1]

It's just for fun.

[@timhewtson6212]

I think it's called engagement. Yes, SoT is fun but it is also a collective of highly knowledgeable people who could hold their own with any other rock journalists. Pete has done an amazing job building various teams that enhance his own substantive knowledge but also have a lot of fun, and radiate that fun onto the audience. As for disagreeing with the panelists, a) they disagree with each other, and b) we will either agree or disagree with them whether we say so or not. Allowing us to comment builds engagement with us, the audience, which is presumably one of Pete's goals. The panelists have their more expert views; we have our considerably less expert views - isn't it fun to have as many views out there as possible? Several-way communication is generally better than two-way communication, which is nearly always more engaging than one-way communication.

[@PeterBrown-mz4nv]

Because it's fun!

[@guillermomaldonado6277]

Congrats! and here's to a hundred more 🍺🤘!!

[@WarhawkBeyond2040]

The first episode is a KZbin classic and I feel that this edition could very well top that especially when it comes to George's brutal honesty and his take no prisoners approach on iconic albums, its always a treat to listen to mainly because you don't expect it. It's going to be epic and judging by everyone's reactions in the thumbnail, I'm guessing George is burying a very popular album 😅 I won't guess what it is as I want to be surprised but I know it's going to be very entertaining. I can't wait!

[@aidanhatton7163]

Everyone’s reaction except Chad’s 😂. He looks as if he really mentally prepared for his picks. Either that or he’s just doing a great job to hide how he really feels 😂.

[@davidsheppard7317]

Great show guy's. Best show on KZbin. Keep up the great work. 👍👍

[@aidanhatton7163]

YES!! I've been waiting for this one! Cannot wait!

[@johnhenfrey5936]

Another great show, full of surprise picks, and loads of laughs.big thank you to everyone.

[@johnmichaelwilliams6694]

Rarely does the sequel exceed the original. This one holds its own and is at least as epic as the original thanks to the brutal honesty of everyone speaking to their individual likes and dislikes. It brings the phrase 'sonic nap' to my lexicon - special thanks to George for that - and will never again hear the word enema without Luis' statement about an enema voice. Epic enjoyment, great fun, and always great to hear what people don't like in addition to the albums they love. Thanks to everyone involved for taking the time and digging up 5 more albums to eviscerate to the joy and agony of the other co-captains and all us watching! Great, great stuff here.

[@garyjoyce2160]

Another fun filled episode. Loved it. Thx gang 👍💯

[@georgelamie7001]

You are the man Gary.

[@garyjoyce2160]

@@georgelamie7001 / DittO !!

[@henrikkarlsson1088]

No one in the hospital this time? The first one have i seen a couple of times, classic indeed.

[@kimberlywalker3970]

Hello, guys! Happy 100th episode. Thank you for 90 min. of endless entertainment. I love good adult humor. And, to show my appreciation, I'll share w/you the moment that gave me more than a chuckle: 1. Jon Anderson is the AC/DC of prog 🤣🤣 (This got me thinking. I like Dirty Deeds. Then, I heard TNT and thought this is cool too. Wait, aren't they the same song?!) 2. Endless River, endless hate 😢😢😂😂 3. If an enema had a voice 🤣🤣🤣🤣 4. To be prog rock, it needs to rock somewhere 🤣🤣 5. Hearing Luis defend Kilroy Was Here 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 6. Dennis DeYoung is the Bryan Ferry of America 😂😂(I hear you!!) 7. Bryan Ferry is the enema for me 😂😂😂😂 8. Steve Hackett, great guitar player but don't sing or play harmonica 🤣🤣🤣🤣 9. Steve Howe is worse 😂😂 10. Sounds like bad Supertramp and Supertramp is pretty bad 😂😂 😂😂 11. Mr. Roboto is catchy - So is chlamydia 🤣🤣🤣🤣 12. Mexican James Brown 😎😎 (That I have to see!) 13. Trust in the Lifeforce of the Deep Mystery. Is that pretentious enough for you? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 14. Euphoria, should've been called euthanize 😂😂 15. Luis, why do you keep listening to Yes and Jon Anderson? Steven, why do you keep listening to Pink Floyd? Guys, stop torturing yourselves!!!

[@alternativepreacher4516]

Literally can't wait for this one lol. I can feel the epicness just from the thumbnail. Edit : The thumbnail seems to be happening during a pick from George 😅.

[@DavysFlicks]

BIG boots to fill after George's takes last time! We need some hate for Close To The Edge, Thick As A Brick and every Genesis from 70-77 to even compete! ;)

[@Robert-tu9ec]

Ignorance confirmed.

[@elfensteen5222]

'Gong 'You' is one of my favorite albums of all time !!

[@bertkarlsson1421]

DYNAMITE!!!!

[@dimitrispapadimitriou5622]

I certainly won't trust musically anyone that hates "You".

[@ElrondHubbard_1]

You is sooo great!

[@foundfathrsweredeist]

As it should be - it's genius.

[@nigelelliott4901]

That was fun. Nice pitch invasion at the end. My how dare you moments were: Magma, Gong, Roxy & Hawklords. Can't wait for the crossover episode. Star of the show? Chuck's Magazine T-shirt. 👍

[@kzustang]

Very very interesting! Hillarious and super insightful comments on a lot of topics and albums. Thank you!

[@kzustang]

And replying to myself here...I love Gong's You and I think it's one of the best prog albums ever.

[@MrBRELLIS]

Maybe its because I'm cynical, mean spirited bastard but these album trash talk episodes are probably my favourite itps shows

[@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories]

Luis Nasser on point with Anderson's solo stuff LOL. He tells it like it is! Thank You for this GREAT Episode. I own a copy of THE COMET IS COMING from 2019. It's a brilliant record in the spiritual jazz vein, not prog rock but worth buying for late night driving or after work introspection.

[@yahcobshaul9713]

EXCELLENT presentation and breakdown, as usual!🔥🖤✊🏿

[@trevdowson5810]

Many thanks, Pete is the perfect host and he manages bring us such treats. Cheers.

[@MikePalmeri]

The best episode ever very interesting picks from square panel members....

[@Prog-t9d]

Great video as always.

[@douglasweston126]

Just watched part 1 - that was hilarious lol. Looking forward to this one. Cya's

[@einarassipavicius1991]

Definitely agree with: - Pink Floyd - The Endless River - Yes - Heaven & Earth - Transatlantic - The Whirlwind - Steven Wilson - Future Bites (not that terrible, but quite a drop comparing with To The Bone) I don't necessarily hate, but I'm unsure about: - Aphrodite's Child - 666 - Gong - You - Pavlov's Dog - Pampered Menial - The Mars Volta - Francis The Mute - Yes - Tales From Topographic Oceans - Storm Corrosion - Storm Corrosion Disagree with: - Pain of Salvation - BE (that's actually one of my faves of 21st century, but definitely a polarizing album) - Magma - Mëkanïk Dëstruktïẁ Kömmandöh - Big Big Train - English Electric, Pt. 1 (again, one of my faves of recent decades) - Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn (it's not brilliant, but I admire it) - Atheist - Unquestionable Presence (c'mon George, it's not garbage, it's brilliant) - LTE - LTE1 My picks, that weren't mentioned (and I don't remember what was mentioned in the part 1, so it might repeat): - Gentle Giant - Giant For A Day - Yes - Union - Dream Theater - The Astonishing - Camel - I Can See Your House From Here - ELP - In The Hot Seat - Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway (yeah, I'm hiring a bodyguard now)

[@erickent4248]

I agreed with you until you said Lamb.

[@haleylewis9587]

Whoa whoa on the Genesis pick. My heart hurts reading you dislike Lamb Lies Down!!

[@mck7646]

Quite liked The Future Bites though I did enjoy To The Bone more.

[@BarbarraBay]

Pavlov's Dog - Pampered Menial is legendary. I have it on my I-Phone. I love it!

[@nealandrus6666]

That Atheist album is indeed brilliant

[@aidanhatton7163]

Now we need the sequel to "Songs That Suck From Bands We Love." 😁

[@adamsmashups4839]

I think they did that one

[@aidanhatton7163]

@@adamsmashups4839 they haven't

[@alexhamilton4084]

Highlight of the show, the ever beautiful Lynne. 😃

[@joshcreasey]

Happy 100th episode!

[@georgelamie7001]

ty Josh!

[@rocioiribe5841]

the HVS jumping in at the end was so sweet. great episode!

[@asmallwhitedog0479]

George killed it in the first part. Luis final choice is just a heartbreaker. I was 16 when it came out and I still think its one of the peaks of prog.

[@scottanderson8420]

Awesome, thanks for the honesty.

[@seekah1]

Omg what a great episode but broke my heart on Avalon and Frances, never expected that😮

[@nebod1556]

Its funny how I discovered new gems from your "recommended" "We Can't Stand" mini series ...Bring it on guys more albums you don't fancy (80% of albums you recommended I enjoy listening)...Keep on good work ....We have a splendid journey...

[@stuartwexelbaum9070]

Great show..I do love Mike Oldfield Ommadawn LP and really love Roxy Music Catalog. As far as the rest of the picks are concerned pretty much right on..

[@DrOz-007]

Agree about Oldfield. Ommadawn is a folk album, it never was prog rock, strange choice here.

[@robmlisanti]

😂😂 great show guys enjoyed it a lot 👍😎

[@robertwatt4248]

Congrats on reaching the 100th milestone. TA''s The Whirlwind is a stone cold classic. Had to see that tour twice. Luis needs to revisit Tales & listen to the Remembering. The interplay between Howe & Wakeman in the instrumental section is the best they ever did. If that isn't rocking out I dont know what is. The Neal Morse Band have been the most consistent prog band since their formation. Every release a classic. Have never been able to get into Gong but love solo Steve Hillage. Magma are unlistenable. Surprised The Lamb wasnt mentioned but I guess at least 1/3 of it is good. Any PF post Waters is weak, Gilmour is not a songwriter and proved Waters was the genius.

[@barrypeirson3710]

I love Tales..every second of it It's a record you have to allow to grow on you (for a lot of people) Luis hates Jon Anderson so it's hard for him. 🤣

[@tomthorsett1433]

Jaw dropped when I heard "Pain of Salvation." Then he said BE. Yes.

[@johnmagdaleno4643]

"Some fukn nerd proggy sh-t, for Christ's sake" -Chris Alo in reference to the recording of this In The Prog Sear episode delaying the taping of last week's Hudson Valley Squares. I dig how dude lets it fly.

[@nickvickers3486]

That was indeed a great rant from Chris, and it's no doubt increasing the anticipation for this episode)) I'm not a big horror fan but I like do like to drop by the Monster's Den to see Mr Alo let fly!

[@TranquilityFireReid]

Chris is the man!

[@lahloonatic]

Alo is the king. Great dude

[@TABL3SIX]

Can hardly wait. Look forward to ever episode. I bet Pink Floyd's The Wall is going to be discussed.

[@richardbooth6063]

4 Grand Funk Railroad - Closer to Home (1970) This is a very personal pick for me. I’m not denying that their are greater albums than this one. But favorite means just that. We were playing On Time and the Red Album during the summer of ‘70 when this third album was released. It seemed a bit more sophisticated and less raw, but still cranked out great rock and roll music ! A light acoustic guitar strummed and then a fuzz laden electric guitar came booming out with “Sin’s a Good Man’s Brother”. This is a fantastic start. One of Mark Farner’s best written songs. And he composed them all for this album. “Aimless Lady” is a fine uptempo rocker. The rhythm section of Mel Schacher on bass and Don Brewer on drums compliments Marks great guitar sound on this short ditty. “Nothing is the Same” is a reworking of a song that appeared in a rawer form on the previous albums extra tracks. The story of growing up is juxtaposed to a killer riff laden classic ! “Mean Mistreater” is a solemn song that has never been a good listen. Its just a dirge that’s hard to stick with. “Get It Together” and “Hooked on Love” are two tunes that go together even though they are separated by another song. These two tunes are so similar in groove. They show a real maturity in songwriting by Mark Farner. I guess you could even call them stylishly advanced for a bunch of crude rock and rollers ! “I Don’t Have to Sing the Blues” is the song between; and it’s the second best song on the record. It’s one of GFR ‘s best ever songs! It rocks the blues as best as this band could do ! The greatest song on the album is the most well known tune by the band. Of course I’m talking about “I’m Your Captain (Closer to Home). This song is a real gem. It’s a fine rocker with great lyrics and a middle section that is incredibly beautiful. The chorus may remind you of another great song “Hey Jude” with its repeated lines. But this is Grand Funk Railroad’s greatest achievement by far. There are sounds of waves and gulls and orchestra parts such as violins and cellos to carry the song out. Mark Farner wanted to write a meaningful song. It came at a time of a raging war in Vietnam. And a Captain losing his ship could be an allegory of the eventual loss of the war. (That’s just my interpretation). It’s a cool song with some fine instrumentation from the band ! The bonus songs on the album have good live cuts. And there is a version of “Mean Mistreater” with an organ instead of piano that I like a little better. No telling how many times I’ve heard this album; but it remains in my rotation to this day. I mean how could I not pick it? It’s only been with me for 53 years !!

[@PeterBrown-mz4nv]

Tony Williams Wilderness. Interesting pick I wasn't expecting for prog. We were really excited for that to come out, and it was dissappointing and not too eventful.

[@robertjantzen6545]

Apologies for multiple comments but just found you guys and instantly subscribed. Opinion on Frost, Areyon, Porcupine Tree, Flower Kings and Lonely Robot?

[@charvDKgtr]

like Flinstones meets the Jetsons. Sweeps week cross over madness. Love it

[@kamranmalik8546]

Looking forward to this! This is going to be fun.

[@PeterBrown-mz4nv]

Haven't made it through this whole thing yet, but I figured somebody would probably mention the latet Renaissance albums, Camera Camera and Timeline. They are very poppy and new wave for Renaissance, but I still like them, especially after seeing them in concert on both tours.

[@J.G.M.Jr.]

Luis! CDepot...Loch Raven & Joppa! LOL! I was the clerk that refused buy back!

[@goodknight37]

I usually agree with Luis but, I love “Tales”. I think it’s fantastic

[@toddhill7483]

I concur

[@ElrondHubbard_1]

Tales is beautiful. I love it all, but Ritual is one of Yes' greatest songs (and I hate ranking things).

[@fuckamericanidiot]

I got halfway through the second song. It wasn't even meandering.....it was just very poor quality music writing at that point I had to stop.

[@PeterBrown-mz4nv]

Tales is really good.

[@mintyfresh4987]

I had just deleted all of Mars Volta and Transatlantic from my drive an hour before watching this...too funny. As far as the Gong goes, I like the crunchy recording and ensemble playing. It's a completely different vibe on vinyl, but it does meander.

[@purpletemple1]

Could you guys post the albums you chose? Difficult to get some of the names. Thanks!

[@davidrogers3875]

Dear George, I would like to give you a huge thanks. Honest. Following your "recommendation" I went to youtube and found The Comet Is Coming - "Summon The Fire" It is a track from the album "Trust in the Lifeforce of the Deep Mystery". I have only listened to it three times in a row, but it is absolutely sensational. If you have any other "recommendations" please feel free to share them. There is just so much music out there, that sometimes gems like this can just pass by. Keep up the good work.

[@georgelamie7001]

Glad I could help, David!

[@RickNBacker]

@Chuck - you missed out on the next Flower Kings album then, "Unfold the Future", probably their last "great" one. I hung in seven albums longer than you did, finally bailing out after hearing "Waiting for Miracles"... but I still like all their music, even "Rainmaker" which I would rank near the bottom of their catalog.

[@lahloonatic]

I half-like unfold the future, and then I bailed. Haven’t heard their last 4 studio albuns

[@geneleonard4368]

To me Desolation rose 🥀 was their last great album & I'm a big Flower kings fan . I will say I've disliked or was disappointed on even one of their albums until i listen to them several times then they just hit me . Then i thought to myself why didn't I love these albums there fantastic . But that's what I've found ,i think most people give up on the albums before then .

[@Mr.Guild1971]

I like George's plan Slam 5 that are highly acclaimed

[@captainbeyond7469]

Couldn’t disagree more with the comments about Roxy Music. IMO they were one of the most creative and artistic bands of the 70’s a good portion of their music is pure genius. But each to their own. Cheers from the Captain!

[@chuckazeee]

Yeah, Everyone can’t like every thing. They’re a Top 10 all great in my book.

[@briancox8518]

Definitely love roxy especially the early material not really prog but can have progressive elements in there sound

[@chuckazeee]

@@briancox8518 that’s just it, Roxy Music is an Art-Rock band, more experimental earlier on especially on the first two albums with Eno.

[@scifiwriter98]

I don't get how anyone could hate the first Roxy album. The production was a little thin sounding due to Pete Sinfield being the producer. But If There is Something and Re-make/Re-model are songs I still love listening to. The second and third Roxy albums are two of the best albums of the 70s. The guy must have terrible taste.

[@chuckazeee]

@@scifiwriter98 not really Chad has a great sense of music that he likes, Roxy Music just isn’t his thing.

[@carstenselberg1255]

I disagreed with a couple of the albums mentioned but it was a fun show to watch.

[@paulfaulkner2855]

Nice Hellripper shirt Bryce and same to Ralph with the Vital Remains logo shirt..New Hellripper is great!!

[@blamelouis]

Its gonna kick off ...George will have his pitchfork and torch out roasting anybody who disagrees that Genesis were as prog as The Osmonds and that King Crimson were Earth wind and fire on steroids 😊😊😊

[@garyjoyce2160]

GEORGE knows !!!! 👍💯

[@sdrandazzo]

This will be a fun show. So many diverse opinions makes this the best SoT show imho. I would wager top dollar that Eric and George will go after my beloved Van der Graaf Generator lol. Anthony will not be able to defend his love for Sunhillow and Jon Anderson this evening lol.

[@seaoftranquilityprog]

That already happened the first time, so we tried hard not to repeat on this one.

[@sdrandazzo]

@@seaoftranquilityprog thank you for the clarification. I have the Olds lol. Regards, Sal.

[@TheRealDannAlexander]

I love all of Eberhard Weber albums. One of the reasons I have a 5-string electric upright. But I respect why people might not dig certain parts of his catalog.

[@johnmagdaleno4643]

In the Director's Cut edition of this episode Luis Nasser admitted he is a huge fan of the all-star prog project Arc of Life. 😃

[@JohnMacRae23]

By the expressions in the Thumbnail, I can already tell this will be good (can it live up to the first one lol)

[@TocadaLeitura]

I was just about to say the same thing, 😄

[@chuckazeee]

Man, they I was being roasted!

[@michaelfavreau7617]

Hey Louis, give a listen to Jon Anderson`s Animation album. Just side 1, the first 4 tunes. Yes it has a firm foot in popish music but it also has strong prog elements that are exceptional. Simon Phillips drum sound is great

[@tammiec4937]

You guys are great!

[@christinefiocchi9890]

Lol!! Interesting viewpoints! It's interesting to hear the statements and explanations as to why certain progressive albums are disliked. Interesting video! Fun to watch! Excellent job!

[@davidrogers3875]

Dear chaps, there is little or no point in saying you are wrong, this is actually great because I like it. However, I would just like to “modify” something that Pete mentioned about Robert Calvert. There is no point in me telling you why Hawklords was a good album. If you do not like it, you do not like it. Robert Calvert was primarily a lyricist. I checked it and I believe that he only wrote music for one of the tracks on the album. Robert Calvert was a poet and personally I believe that he wrote some very literary and memorable lyrics. I saw Hawkwind on the “Quark Strangeness and Charm” and the “Hawklords” tours, and he was not only a great lyricist and singer but he was a great front man. I know that Hawkwind is Dave Brock’s band, however, I have always felt that he felt more comfortable in the shadows at the edge of the stage. I know that Robert Calvert had his problems, I know that he had several difficulties, however I would propose that if you do not like this album, he may not be the sole reason. I have been a Hawkwind fan all of my life and as folks know, they do not have one sound. They have evolved over the years. Some phases may be more appealing than others. Here is my personal feeling based on nothing what so ever. Hawkwind often reflect a drug of choice of a culture at different points in time. The culture changes, the audience changes, the personnel changes and therefore the music changes. I feel that “Quark, Strangeness and Charm”, “25 Years On”, “PXR5” and “Live 79” are great albums from (personally) a very happy time. If others do not like them…… Keep up the good work.

[@reluctanticon]

1:30:36 ....Lynne!...game over hubba hubba! ;) Great episode, guys!

[@JoelPrice253]

Just listened to the Pavlov's Dog - Theme from Subway Sue. I thought I could get used to the singer (maybe) but...man. Does that actually count as prog-rock?

[@ericporter344]

They were always talked about in Prog circles, so I felt they were acceptable to use. More AOR with some Prog influence

[@BayouMaccabee]

I have always been a big Yes fan, but I totally agree with everything Luis said about "Tales From Topographic Oceans." I'm glad Bill Bruford got out when he did to join King Crimson.

[@vmacart]

what? i love just another band from la! i love it. more then the white one with the pencil on it. i enjoy the tension between flo/eddie's vocals/antic's and the music/musicians. billy the mountain is brilliant!

[@ModernDayWarrior2112]

I actually missed the first episode of this so I need to go back and watch that one but this one was hilarious. 😂

[@asdfzxcv3617]

35:28 Pete impersonate Flo and Eddie!! And He is great!!! 😂😂

[@beejayca]

This was fun. You gotta do a part three. I'm with Luis on that Tales album again. Rubbish! 😂

[@seekah1]

Partly, unfair slam

[@waynechesser2000]

Storm Corrosion?!? NO! I absolutely LOVE that album! I can't contest any of the other picks, but that one I will fight!

[@Driver2616]

Oh Wow Chad! The Whirlwind by Transatlantic! I love that album. It’s epic. I have all their albums and two of their live albums. They’re all excellent However, Kaleidoscope is a Transatlantic album that I wouldn’t miss if it had never been made.

[@jeffreyrobinson9120]

Another great edition of the Prog rock version of "The Emperor`s New Clothes"

[@drea4195]

Listening to these insults fired at horrible music, just brings me indescribable joy. I feel like a bad person, taking pleasure in something that would have to be absolutely devastating to the artists who created these albums 😬.

[@kayfimt7769]

So excited to hear Eric pick Pavlov’s Dog. This got passed to me as some lost prog classic and the guy’s singing almost killed me.

[@ericporter344]

Horrible!! 😂

[@BarbarraBay]

clueless... clueless.. Pavlov's Dog is superb and legendary

[@glerp10000000000]

How come I enjoyed watching a bunch of folks trashing some of my favourite albums ? One of them twice ?? Guess I don't get hung up about these things. Nice job, guys.

[@JoelPrice253]

Just listened to the title track from the Big Big Train - Underfall Yard album. Should have been half as long, but I thought it was pretty good.

[@17primemover]

We should have a whole hour of Luis talking about Olias of Sunhillow!

[@arnaudb.7669]

I laugh so hard! Great show.

[@philipstorer5600]

Big fan of Hawkwind, saw Hawklords on this tour and still have best memories of Calvert, your loss.

[@comickaraoke]

Great episode! It's best when all the guys just go for the throat and honestly lambaste the duds of the prog universe. Some top choice insults in this one. Don Rickles would be proud. I usually agree with Steven Reid's tastes in music and on a whim checked out Mostly Autumn sine the other panelists were surprised he didn't like it. I didn't find the sound as heinous as he did. I actually liked the track, Something in Between. Nice harmonies. Perhaps the rest of their stuff isn't as strong.

[@incamera1457]

Ouch! Got me! Pavlovs Dog was one of my alltime favourites. It's a Marmite thing. David Surkamp is the key. Go with it. Subway Sue is the epitome of the appeal so you got that right!

[@Pellefication]

I'm a huge fan of 70's Zappa but i am so with Pete on this one!

[@affeneitrheim614]

Fun show, but man, "The Whirlwind" is a god damn masterpiece, a 10/10! I absolutely love it🙂

[@reactions4u438]

Oh absolutely, what a wonderful piece of music

[@JeffReams]

Totally agree

[@bertkarlsson1421]

I didn't know that KISS had made a prog album!😂 You always learn something on these shows! I would love to see a ranking the albums of KISS episode with Luis and Ken!

[@glenjammin69]

Yeah...waste of a pick

[@theheepster]

Kiss never made a Prog Album

[@ButchArgus]

It's a concept album but not prog. Art rock at a stretch, maybe, but they never said it was intended as a prog record.

[@andyshelton4889]

Chuck, have you heard the Arcana album featuring Tony Williams?😀❤️

[@PeterBrown-mz4nv]

Are you saying that's a bad album or good album?

[@andyshelton4889]

@@PeterBrown-mz4nv It is a great album$😀❤️🎼

[@PeterBrown-mz4nv]

Thank you! It is a great album!

[@willfitzpatrick1107]

Progressive rock is one of those genres that lends itself to a kind of paint by numbers approach and progressive rock fans have a pretty fair bullshit detector.. most of the time. Another great episode! Having said all that I am left wondering if Ken has English Electric (Part One) in stock... I love that record. Cheers!

[@timhewtson6212]

Back in the late 60s and 70s, in the UK at least, there was a very different definition of progressive rock than the one used today. What defined progressive bands was that they were exploring the potential of this new form of music - rock - all in their own way with their unique sounds. There was a commonality of attitude, not sound. So, bands like Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Uriah Heel and Led Zeppelin were progressive, as were the West Coast bands - Jefferson Airplane / Starship, Quicksilver Messenger Service, and Grateful Dead (sometimes). At the core of progressive rock were bands like Jethro Tull, Yes, Traffic, Roger Chapman's Family, Genesis, Supertramp, the Moody Blues, Joan Armatrading, Kevin Coyne, Pink Floyd, Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come etc. - whoever would be played by DJ John Peel or appear on 'The Old Grey Whistle Test' with Whispering Bob Harris. Bands like Soft Machine, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Steve Hillage, Colliseum etc. were also progressive, and jazz rock. What would now be considered the core of historic prog rock were bands like Gentle Giant, Caravan, Camel, Gong - known at the time as soft rock. Other soft rock bands were Sutherland Brothers + Quiver and Barclay James Harvest. The difference today is that prog rock has a commonality of sound, anathema to the original progressive rock bands. They have combined soft rock, German rock, instrumental virtuosity, and a broad range of instruments with some kind of spacy or sword and sorcery theme ... and end up sounding somewhat vanilla, which has been your constant complaint throughout these two programs - "This album doesn't do anything for me." The original progressive bands may have been uncomfortable, wacky, jarring etc., but no one accused them of being boring - only pretentious. I doubt anyone would accuse modern prog rock bands of being pretentious because they don't really stretch themselves. This is a very long way of saying that Pink Floyd's 'Final Cut' was a classic old-style progressive rock move, getting away from the slickness of 'Dark Side of the Moon,' 'Animals' and 'The Wall,' and taking a sudden left turn into a low key, very private album, sales being very much secondary to the art. I wish modern prog rock bands would recapture the old spirit, sound less and less like each other, and take frequent left turns into uncharted (in both senses of the word) territory.

[@goodknight37]

I decided to look up Rainmaker by the Flower Kings after Chuck crapped on it. I though it was fantastic…then the singing started. Now I agree with Chuck.

[@mutant_blues]

ELP - Tarkus (I liked it as a teenager, but now I find it unbearable) Yes - Close to the Edge Gentle Giant debut Caravan - In the Land of grey and pink Camel - Mirage

[@alternativepreacher4516]

I love Nine Feet Underground but the first tracks on the Caravan album are kind of middle of the road.

[@RickNBacker]

I like all the other ELP albums of that period (Trilogy being the favorite) but I didn't like Tarkus then and it's even more unbearable now.

[@jimmycampbell78]

ELP are the prog giants I always had a bit of trouble with. Ironically Tarkus is my favourite and Brain Salad Surgery is the one I cannot bear (jarring presence of their version of Jerusalem; the dreadful Benny the Bouncer, “welcome my friends to the show that never ends, come inside....come on see the show etc” Cringe I find all their albums patchy and of their lauded albums I think that one is the patchiest. I like Toccata and moments of Karn Evil but that album is horribly overrated to my ears. Tarkus is better to me, but not a huge ELP fan here.

[@nectarinedreams7208]

Good lord.

[@tuskact4overheaven873]

How the fuck does close to the edge belong on there???? Caravan album too that's a masterpiece...

[@ralphmuller6040]

This was an awesome episode mainly due to the hilarity which ensues when a member disses a 'classic' album. Too much fun.

[@affeneitrheim614]

Have you guys heard the last Big Big Train album, «Welcome to the Planet»? I absolutely love it, and it was one of my top 10 albums of 2022.

[@seaoftranquilityprog]

I love the band personally...and never understand Steven's dislike of them, as they seem tailor made for what he generally gravitates to!