In the Prog Seat: The Prog Albums We Can't Stand

[@aidanhatton7163]

George is clearly the star of this show so here are the timestamps for his picks: 3:49 21:12 38:51 59:02 1:24:40

[@reducecotwo]

I enjoy coming back to this video every once in a while, lol

[@aidanhatton7163]

@@reducecotwo same! 😄

[@Andrey_Yurkoff]

Agree on Pawn Hearts and Miles Davies.

[@Phangaea]

with picks like that i wonder what he does like? =)

[@HollowGolem]

@@Andrey_Yurkoff Miles Davis' ENTIRE career, from the hardbop days to the limp fusion has never resonated with me. The best thing about Davis is that he got awesome musicians in his band, and their projects away from Davis were always more interesting. In fact, honestly, the only one of George's takes that I disagree with is _Court_ but I can understand WHY someone wouldn't enjoy the album. It has pacing issues.

[@RobGretsinger]

I must say Pete, Sea Of Tranquility has really helped me through this whole pandemic. What an oasis! This episode was a combination of HILARIOUS and OUTRAGEOUS! What a fantastic episode! Thanks to everyone involved!

[@ericporter344]

Thanks Rob, I watch SOT more than regular TV.

[@reducecotwo]

SNL can only hope to be this funny.

[@ericporter344]

@@reducecotwo too kind my friend! Thank you

[@rocioiribe5841]

couldn't agree more.

[@Realbillball]

I have to say 100% agree. About every morning I have started the day with whatever Pete has had to say.

[@tmc1054]

This episode is a classic. I've rewatched it on numerous occasions. George (Thanos like) lays waste to Prog monoliths with casual abandon, it really it a sight to behold.

[@tonypeake467]

George is a classic. Epic vid

[@Whit-mh9nt]

well written comment

[@Jlipnicki]

Pretty much everything by Crimson could be dismissed as pretentious unlistenable and noodle but they had a golden era about 1973 - 75.

[@Whit-mh9nt]

@@Jlipnicki Ah..no...

[@ragnathebloodedge17]

Getting into Van Der Graaf Generator takes time, but once you're hooked you will never stop listening to them. Scorched Earth, Killer, House With no Door, Wondering, My Room (Waiting For Wonderland), Meurglys III (The Songwriter's Guild), Pilgrims, Refugees and Hammill's solo material like Forsaken Gardens are just sublime, incredibly beautiful and atmospheric. Hammill's voice works more often than not. The other guys might not be so flashy, but their playing is certainly tasteful. Definitely in my top 10 bands of all time. Pawn Hearts may not be the most musical or melodic VDGG album, but it's very much appreciated. You need to have a mega brain and very strong vision to come up with something like Plague of the Lighthouse Keepers, or Man-Erg.

[@ericporter344]

Thanks for watching and your comments. I've tried with VDGG (H to He, Still Life, Pawn Hearts) and none of them connected with me on any level, and I really dislike Hammill's vocals. It's been said on SOT many times...we all hear things differently. That's the beauty of this episode, it was fun, at times surprising, but honest opinions. I didn't agree with everyone's picks, but it intrigued me when an album was mentioned that I like. I respect these guys, and can relate.

[@bjornjagerlund3793]

I can understand why people have problems with Peter’s vocals, it’s not always pleasent to the eras,. I also have problems, but I just love his music. He is a great songwriter in my opinion.

[@marguskiis7711]

nooo

[@ragnathebloodedge17]

@@marguskiis7711 huh?

[@zbthunderwood]

Well said. They're my favorite band these days. It boggles my mind that a fan of prog wouldn't like them.

[@Trifixion22]

Kudos to George for going right for the jugular!

[@KarlGo]

OK....you guys have to do a Part 2 for this...this was SO much FUN! Absolutely fookin' brilliant.

[@t702942]

I have to rewatch this every once in a while. Funniest show on the internet! Pete’s reaction when George starts with «In the Court…» is priceless, and gets me every time😂

[@oskarklang8616]

Coming back to this for the 50th odd time.I have to say this is my favourite KZbin moment of all time! Nothing can top this!

[@sspbrazil]

How can George not like “Epitaph” on In The Court? That’s such a great song.

[@sspbrazil]

@Chris Kozak yeah, Moonchild meanders too much, it is the weakest song on the album.

[@alanthorne3921]

I lump Epitaph and the title track in the same mould mainly because of the haunting mellotron.

[@davidpousho4828]

Epitaph is one of my all-time favorite tunes!!! A song so good someone used the name for a record company.

[@Leo-ci9kc]

Moonchild is the worst song on it but the other tracks are so good it doesn't matter. Epitaph is one of the best songs ever!

[@realmusiciswithinstruments9915]

Nothing beats the first KC Album. How can anyone involved in Prog don't like that? Very very strange

[@MackeyWilliams]

"So why do I have to suffer? If I'm in therapy, I've got my own problems!" - K. Golden. Oh man, how did I miss that one the first time around? Fantastic!

[@nectarinedreams7208]

Yeah. I tried watching Schindler's List the other day but I had to turn it off after 20 minutes. I've got my own problems. Why do I need to suffer?!

[@DonHornsby]

Nasser: "The traditional YES fan will buy a dead cat as long as it has a YES logo on it." As a YES fan, I can say that it's probably true. HA!

[@ericporter344]

Luis is spot on with that, thanks for watching Don

[@ryanfisher5835]

I’m guilty of that.

[@docbobster]

Is that dead cat cd already out yet? I have a bootleg of the dead cat but I'd love to get a pristine professional release, esp if S Wilson was involved.

[@RickNBacker]

@@docbobster - it's one of the cats from the Tales from Topographic Oceans cover...

[@mvunit3]

@@RickNBacker If it was Topographic Oceans . . . you are seeing "Catfish" :p.

[@cozmicpfunk]

I didn't know what to expect from this review, I almost passed this one up but I was so surprised to see Pete laugh and bust a gut like I have never seen before. I laughed incredibly hard at so many of the reviews and comments. I think this is one of the best videos I have seen on this channel! I really did need a good laugh before going to bed. Thank you guys, this was awesome- who would have guessed- so much fun :)

[@ericporter344]

Thanks for taking this in the spirit it was intended John. It was great fun, and the whole crew were laughing throughout. Appreciate your positive feedback and thanks for watching

[@gazza8127]

Music appreciation is such an individual & subjective thing. As the old saying goes, one man's trash is another man's treasure. The great thing about this format is these guys can speak their mind with respect. Opinions are passionate but everything's taken with great humor. Great channel Pete. Cheers

[@747jono]

This is why SOT is best on the net being able to criticise bands we love.

[@mladent1464]

You guys tore some of my favorite albums to pieces and I loved it. This was such a fun episode. I gotta lie down now.

[@ericporter344]

Thanks for watching, I was surprised as well by some of the picks, and that's what made it awesome.

[@mladent1464]

@@ericporter344 Thanks for being part of the crew, you're doing fantastic work. Also, I particularly enjoy the part of you "hating" on Pawn hearts. Because it's great that you TRIED to love an album that I love. It's amazing how we give music a chance because others adore it, yet sometimes it doesn't click for us.

[@ericporter344]

@@mladent1464 Thanks, as I got into Prog and did my research (many moons ago), VDGG always came up as an elite and respected band. I bought 3 of their CDs over the years, thinking I must be missing something. Turns out they are just not for me. Never intend to disrespect someone's art, I know they put their heart and soul into it.

[@scagooch]

Got to agree with anything that has neal morse on it. He's a musician that makes a living doing prog.

[@polska1958]

I don't agree with every pick, but this is the best show that you have ever done and I've been watching over 2 years !! Keep on Rockin"

[@ericporter344]

Thanks for watching Joe, it was such a blast

[@TranquilityFireReid]

We knew this would be a love it or hate it episode. Great to hear you loved it Joe!

[@mikereiss4216]

Me neither.

[@michaelsalisbury1477]

Umma Gumma is misindeesrood.experimentalism isnt ecclusive to virtuosos.

[@michaelsalisbury1477]

You hit the naik on its head with the review of Genesis'"We cant dance!!!!!!!! Its a Piece of trash!!

[@jefffloyd9671]

Best show ever! Watching faces as the respected George takes down classic records, like a slaughterhouse operator. So great! Please do this topic again.

[@Protometal66]

I have always found it amazing when grown men can't accept others opinions. Nothing wrong with being surprised when someone dislikes something universally enjoyed but the " youre' wrong " " you're taste sucks " comments just show a level of immaturity that doesn't make sense to me hearing it from adults. Luckily I didn't see that in this episode. I found it really enjoyable. We all have different opinions and it really should be celebrated. It just gets boring to me when everyone likes the exact same thing.

[@christopherdavies3079]

Pardon the pun but it’s “The Crime of the Century “ that this album by Supertramp was selected for the above category. How can anyone not love “ Rudy” as well the rest of this amazing album that has no filler on it . Most people will remember this album best for “ Dreamer “ and “ Bloody Well Right “.

[@wendellwiggins3776]

THat's why it was a Crime for Dreamer and Bloody to have been on the album

[@gregb.5056]

Agreed. Discovered CotC and weed together in 1974 and have loved both since.

[@Olliemets]

Love COTC. Other than Dreamer...which is annoying as hell, I love the album. Not a prog album in my eyes though

[@christopherdavies3079]

@@Olliemets If it’s not Prog , then what label would you put on it as it’s most certainly not Pop ?

[@Olliemets]

@@christopherdavies3079 Tough to label categorize, which actually makes it great. Title track certainly very proggy to me. Bloody Well Right and School not so much. I seem to be in the minority on this, but its by far my favorite album from these guys.

[@awrogers3013]

One of the great episodes of all time ..thank you panel …great

[@TractorCountdown]

"My father was in World War II. You don't see me making an album." Quote of the year.

[@nectarinedreams7208]

Almost like Roger Waters was an artist in a band and Ken isn't. Funny, that... I like when Pink Floyd lyrics are actually about something and not, you know, relatable and profound things such as getting your pilots license.

[@paulwelch1992]

Ken was on fire in this episode. Nice to see so many people comment that they've rewatched this show numerous times. It's a classic.

[@NP-ip3nj]

By the way Pete, when is the "hated prog albums that you love" show coming?

[@genericusername1365]

That's a great idea.

[@drlarrymitchell]

Fuck me, that's meta.

[@davidl570]

YES! GREAT idea! How about you make this happen, Pete?

[@corleth84]

What can I say... I'm a devoted VDGG fan.... and of Peter Hammill's solo work.... which includes his Rikki Nadir alter ego....

[@ericporter344]

Different strokes, all cool in the name of fun. Thanks for watching

[@newforestpixie5297]

Every Bloody Emperor is incredible. I was 16 in 1980 when I was handed an old heavy vinyl copy of The Least We Can Do ...my first listen to them . Awesome music . 👍

[@douglasanderson8636]

Saw him two weeks ago in concert. He looks ancient but sings brilliantly still.

[@AndiCat14]

Speaking as a 58-year-old classic rock/prog chick, I hated to see this episode end. Thoroughly enjoyed you guys!!!

[@ericporter344]

Thanks Andi, love hearing that you enjoyed the show. Appreciate you tuning in.

[@AndiCat14]

@@ericporter344 Thanks!

[@seaoftranquilityprog]

Steven's picks: 1. Marillion - Radiation 2. Emerson Lake & Palmer - The Works 3. Dream Theater - Systematic Chaos 4. Pink Floyd - Piper At The Gates Of Dawn 5. Neal Morse - Momentum HM’s The Flower Kings - The Banks Of Eden The Gentle Storm - S/T Tony Banks - (in general) The Fugitive Eric's picks: 5. Pink Floyd - Ummagumma 4. Soft Machine - Third 3. Jethro Tull - Under Wraps 2. GTR 1. Van Der Graf Generator - Pawn Hearts Pete's picks: Jethro Tull-Under Wraps Pink Floyd-The Final Cut Gentle Giant-Giant for a Day Yes-Open Your Eyes Dream Theater-The Astonishing ELP-In the Hot Seat Genesis-We Can’t Dance Alan Parsons Project-Gaudi Saga-The Beginners Guide to Throwing Shapes Renaissance-Time Line Ken's picks: 5. Genesis - We Can't Dance 4. Pink Floyd - The Final Cut 3. Emerson Lake & Palmer - In The Hot Seat 2. Asia - Asia 1. Colin Scot - Colin Scot HM - Triumvirat - A La Carte and also Russian Roulette Circus Maximus - Nine

[@TranquilityFireReid]

Haha, you can tell it was late when I sent my list to Peter. It meant .COM, not Radiation!

[@cameramanzoomit]

This was a blast! Definitely needs a Part 2.

[@poliziagrammaticale9430]

I have been watching this channel for long and I have never laughed so much. Great show! Thanks for cheering me up. I needed it!

[@ericporter344]

Thanks for watching Gianni, and for the kind words!

[@Drinckx2]

More of these! This is so funny and I love situations where humour just comes out of such considered and well-directed vitriol.

[@ericporter344]

Thanks Paul, it really was a blast, and I agree, the humor was unforced, and reaction based. Glad you enjoyed it

[@davidmomberg8208]

The best part of this so far is watching Pete laugh.

[@c.a.t.732]

"This guy just should have been in therapy, and he shouldn't have made an album." "Well that was his f**king therapy." "Yeah, but why do I have to suffer." I feel that way about everything Roger Waters ever did. He created his own genre of music... "whine rock".

[@nectarinedreams7208]

Yeah, because criticising pro-war sentiments, consumerism and facism is whining. Get real.

[@jimmycampbell78]

I would say his awful vocals don’t help, ND. I’ve never got on with Roger’s vocals and much prefer it when Gilmour sang, or even Richard Wright/Syd Barrett.

[@vlfriscia]

I have always been a Floyd/David Gilmour fan. I found Roger whiny and self-indulgent and quickly tired of his perpetual bad mood. However, I saw Roger live just before COVID and the show was totally awesome. I am really sorry I never got to see the original lineup, but glad I did get to see Roger. It was a bombastic, over-the-top arena show, but musically satisfying as well.

[@noyfb4769]

Also: "My father was in WW2, you don't see ME making an album!" "But your father LIVED!" "Yeah, and he wouldn't be caught dead listening to this shit."

[@andrewvince1896]

We were at the Yes / Deep Purple show opening night at Hard Rock in Hollywood Fla! Both bands were outstanding! There was no video for Yes on stage behind the band. The venue had two video boards at each side of the theater. The large screen on stage only displayed Deep Purple, that’s all. Must have been a technical glitch part of opening night issues. The sound was great for both bands. The South Florida audience was very enthusiastic, like the Detroit and Toronto shows. As you all know, = 1 was recorded in Toronto near where the Toronto show took place. Deep Purple was firing on all cylinders! The set list was perfect!! All the new songs fit right in and blended with all the classics! We especially liked Black Night part of the encore schtick with Simon having the audience participate singing along, it worked! So much FUN ! We loved it ! Great time had by all!😊

[@brianhart5620]

love the fact that when Pete is dissing Dream Theater, George's cat is cleaning it's arse!

[@georgelamie7001]

Asher has no sense of decorum! :D

[@vlfriscia]

@@georgelamie7001 Like most cats! 🙀

[@traduseuse5895]

How did I miss this episode? Brilliant! Need to watch it again. I missed some portions, too busy laughing.

[@nonahyobusiness8063]

THIS SHOW IS/WAS EPIC. PART 2 MUST HAPPEN !

[@Olliemets]

Catching up on my Sea of Tranquilities-Skimmed through this one again while binging. All I can say is...hilarious episode. Thanks Pete.

[@tonyhonour665]

A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers on you, George! Seriously, that was great fun and has lifted my spirits immeasurably. I wish I had seen it live.

[@finylvinyl66]

Pawn Hearts is one of the great prog albums.

[@dimitrispapadimitriou5622]

​@@finylvinyl66 Pawn Hearts is amongst the definitive progressive rock albums. Amongst the definitive contemporary music albums, actually.

[@herrdwabash]

The 2019 remix of "Momentary Lapse of Reason" actually sounds like a proper Pink Floyd album. The 80s sound is stripped back, Nick Mason adds his own drum parts to most of the songs, and Rick Wright's keyboard parts from live shows are mixed into the studio tracks. The song "Dogs of War" is actually listenable. A much better sound than the original release.

[@MartyMurray]

Now that is one I have to seek out and get.

[@glennsmusicchannel]

Agreed - the remix is so much better than the original. It's still not Dark Side or anything but it's a much better listen.

[@daviddrennon4089]

I love Lapse Of Reason. Such beautiful songs. The guitar work is amazing and so heartfelt. If you ever have a break up listen to this album and the Division Bell. They'll catch and you'll never hear them the same way again. Both amazing gems in their own right.

[@ryanfisher5835]

100% disagree with the choice of Crime of the Century but 100% understand. It’s one of my all time favorite albums but I’m only allowed to listen to it when I’m alone. My wife and daughter both can’t stand it. It just goes to show that everyone has different tastes and we all need to respect that. Great conversation and show!

[@ericporter344]

Thanks for watching Ryan, and that's the truth!

[@TranquilityFireReid]

You've completely caught the essence of what we were trying to do with this show there Ryan. Thanks for watching!

[@barrypeirson3710]

Ryan Hopefully you share a few albums that you all love. It's always a bummer when your loved ones literally forbid you from listening to some records but when you have a few you all love it more than makes up for it.

[@proghead59]

For me, "Crisis: What Crisis?" was their dud album.

[@johnsingleton904]

Easily the best KZbin video I have seen. Ever! Love the contributions from all, especially messrs Golden, Pardo, Nasser and of course Lamie. Outstanding stuff all.

[@michaelirons1609]

Jeez, this was the most fun I've had in a while... Painfully funny at times... King Crimson! Really enjoyed a few of the videos over the last few days and learnt a lot too, heard some new music. Great stuff and great mix of guests across the shows... Thanks to you all.

[@christianman73]

I have a new favorite SOT video! :-) Gentlemen, I loved this. I loved it *so much* that I'm on my second full viewing of the complete video, lol! As much as I cherish most of the albums he chose, George had no mercy and took no prisoners, and I respect that! :-) Luis' relaxed, laid-back, cheery attitude about the *in-detail hating* (which was the point of the video, of course, hehe) of albums that he loves was great!

[@TranquilityFireReid]

Thanks for watching!

[@johnmichaelwilliams6694]

Gentlemen - Epic episode! Some might not enjoy a review of what you don't like rather than what you do like but, at least to me, it provides additional insight to the views and opinions of people whose opinions you do generally trust and follow. Special kudos to Luis for participating from the hospital and more special kudos to George for adding a level of the unexpected to this great episode. Luis was right when he said "This is perfect" after George made his first pick. Most importantly, it emphasizes the SoT mantra "We all hear things differently." Perhaps the best - or maybe the worst - result of the episode for me is it created a new commitment to track down and re-listen to some of the albums that could not be tolerated when bought upon release to see if I still have the same reaction. First on the list is the 1969 eponymous album by the group named The Flock. We'll see what happens from there. But again - special thanks to Luis, George, Ken, Eric, Steven, and Pete for such a highly entertaining and, in its own way, educational show. Great fun!

[@ericporter344]

Thanks John, loved reading your feedback. That's the exact spirit and approach I hoped the viewers would take. We all here things differently, and it gives viewers a chance to hear where we are coming from a little bit more. And honestly, having a few real belly laughs throughout the episode made it for me, an absolute blast. I really respect the opinions, whether I agree is not relevant, it was very interesting.

[@TranquilityFireReid]

Thanks, as ever, for your support John. Always enjoy reading your thoughts and you 'got' this episode perfectly.

[@observationsfromthefencepo7207]

This worked so well as each of you have earned the credibility from previous videos. Then we get to see how preferences work while still having respect. That works for me. Then the humor and ribbing was hilarious. My list 1) Yes - Heaven and Earth 2) Rush - Test for Echo 3) Pink Floyd - The Final Cut 4) Kansas - Freaks of Nature 5). ELP - In the Hot Seat Peace and thanks for the laughs.

[@ericporter344]

Thanks for watching, appreciate your observations.

[@mvunit3]

:( . . . 2, 3 and especially 5 are favorites :p.

[@mvunit3]

:( . . . 2, 3 and especially 5 are some of my favorites from each band :p.

[@747jono]

Pete's face as the stinker albums are revealed is amazing 👏

[@ericporter344]

Pete looks scared to ask George what's next. The reactions of the rest of the panel when George picked Crime of the Century are pure gold

[@nickgonzalez4081]

I've seen this episode dozens of times by now. I love metal, not so much prog, but I really enjoy watching In the Prog Seat. I really enjoy the cast, especially the guys in this episode. Thank you for the good moments/laughs and your music knowledge. Really good show!!!

[@delby66]

You guys are great. I appreciate your knowledge and your candid views. I'm a huge prog rock fan and listening to your views on the worst prog rock albums, I couldn't agree more. Like Ken, my favourite prog rock band is ELP. To see this band go from what they were to what they became, was not just disappointing, it was tragic, for me anyway.

[@ericporter344]

Thanks Stephen, glad you enjoyed the show

[@ericporter344]

What a blast it was to participate and then watch this episode. Great fun, great group of people. I love hanging with these guys. Luis is a trooper, best wishes to you brother for a speedy recovery. Thanks everyone for watching.

[@NP-ip3nj]

I'm out of the loop, what happened to Luis? (Get better!)

[@TranquilityFireReid]

I know, Luis calls me a legend for staying up late to talk music with a great group of people and have lots of fun doing so. Then he shows up from the hospital. He really is THE legend!

[@shyshift]

Can anyone answer why Luis is in the hospital?

[@TranquilityFireReid]

@@shyshift Luis had brain surgery recently and is doing really well. He didn't want to miss taking part in the show, so he zoomed in from hospital. He is THE man!

[@shyshift]

@@TranquilityFireReid thanks Steven

[@inmyhouse11]

George was definitely the star of this show. His picks were spot on

[@ursula3438]

Ngl when he picked "In A Silent Way" I had to stop watching for a minute. Imo that's a strong contender for the greatest fusion record ever. It was also clearly the sonic blueprint for a whole bunch of awesome 70s ECM records. And regarding Mclaughlin, the Miles records he was on, are for me his most enjoyable work, I'm not an expert of his discography but from what I've seen he became a bit of a shredder later in his career and that's not my cup of tea at all.

[@dawnpatrol700]

He went for the jugular on almost every one, but it's all opinions. Lol

[@sex6cult9revolution]

@@ursula3438 I was primarily amused by this guy's picks but it felt weird hearing that one. I mean, you can say whatever you want about Supertramp but Miles was like the Pied Piper of modern jazz. He led and everyone else followed.

[@jimmycampbell78]

It’s all subjective opinion, we hear things differently.. George said that he didn’t like one Miles Davis album. I’m not really into jazz at all full stop.

[@marxnutz]

What was the name of that obscure album that was talked about @ 1:26:50?

[@danielwang7793]

Colin Scot. I have to agree, the lineup is great but the music is crap.

[@edwardcratty638]

Couldnt believe what you said about Asia...I actualy also took it off and threw it across the room!!!!!!

[@kengolden666]

Great minds think alike!😁

[@michaelsmyth3935]

The anticipation, thinking a wonderful feast of prog was about to hit the eardrums......and we were served mickey d's. Bland and pompous, hard to pull off.

[@ClearTheRubble7]

Back in the '70's, when I was in my teens, I was heavily into prog (and still am). In the '80's, I was sorely disappointed that most of my favorite prog bands had greatly altered and watered down their music--especially Genesis. (And yes, Asia really pissed me off.) Still, I managed to see a few of the bands live--Rennaissance, Yes, Genesis, Rush and Wishbone Ash--and they were all FANTASTIC! Probably because--in the concert hall or club--they had a "captive" audience and had the freedom to do what they loved.

[@doscwolny2221]

The final cut would have to be one of the most divisive albums in history. I love it, I also love ummagumma. ITCOCK is ok but not brilliant, Red is better.

[@melthebell33]

I love Ummagumma lol, one of my fondly remembered Floyd albums and own it twice on vinyl

[@daviddrennon4089]

The Court Of The Crimson King is not my favorite KC album but it is amazing and was groundbreaking at the time. I remember seeing that cover as a little boy. I just wondered what could be inside. Later I found out. An incredible musical book of stories. Surreal and wonderful.

[@RickNBacker]

I'm only up to George's first three picks and I think they are more true to what I assumed the show would be about - i.e. instead of picking obvious stinkers that most everyone considers stinkers, he picked albums that are rated highly.

[@ericporter344]

George killed it last night, no softies

[@andyshelton4889]

@@ericporter344 No Soft Machine!😀

[@ericporter344]

@@andyshelton4889 George and I both agreed on that!

[@andyshelton4889]

@@ericporter344 An obscure band you might like is the first album by Gilgamesh.

[@realmusiciswithinstruments9915]

Yeah but those are not rated highly without a reason :D In the Court is like the essence of Prog. I will never understand a Prog fan arguing with that album being one of the best of its genre. :D

[@flashythingme]

Although I disagree with a few picks (The Final Cut being a big one) this is surely one of the most entertaining vids the team has done. Odd because I don't like "snarkyness" but really this isn't that. Much more about individual taste and I find that fascinating. That and George's total fearlessness in the face of an impending avalance of "WTF dude?" responses. Go team...

[@lahloonatic]

George Lamie is a legend.

[@BassGoBomb]

For me, Luis 'nails it' when he says, "You can't hide song-writing." Along with Pete's own albums he hates, he did some ime ago .. it's interesting that the 'real' stuff comes out .. George is going for it .. Court of the Crimson King and Crime of the Century ... lol .. excellent. I love both albums .. but it's subjective and great fun.

[@DonHornsby]

I am sorry. But I didn't know why Luis was in the hospital. I hope he is doing fine.

[@lahloonatic]

I had brain tumor surgery - Which i guess somewhere, someone can make a brain salad surgery joke? I am very well and on the mend. Cheers!

[@jeffreyrobinson9120]

Luis made some really good points about the album "Under Wraps" and Ian Anderson. Is it classic Tull ? No. Is it a great Tull album ? No. But it is interesting music. Set these songs to different Instrumentation - guitar and flute - and the album doesn`t get dumped on. He`s right about Ian Anderson having a certain level of quality. It`s not my favorite Jethro Tull album and I get why people hate it, but the songs are a lot more interesting than most of what was being released around the same time period.

[@ericporter344]

Thanks for watching Jeffrey, and I agree with Luis' take, that there are some good songs at the core. But the arrangements, production, lack of much Martin Barre and synth/drum sounds buried those songs in a pile of shit. Too much good Tull to spend time on Under Wraps for me. Appreciate and respect your thoughts, and thanks for watching!

[@jeffreyrobinson9120]

@@ericporter344 Yeah, I do get that, but Ian Anderson at his worst is still decent.

[@ignatiusjackson235]

This is my favorite episode yet. It's interesting to me that sharing your hatred for these beloved albums has a funny way of exposing your love for one another. In the end, that's what it's all about. You guys rock!

[@ametalman66]

What a fantastic group of knowledgeable individuals on such a great topic. Thank you gents and SOT🤘😎🤘

[@dawnpatrol700]

ELP coming off Black Moon in 92, I was expecting Hot Seat to be as good. That didn't happen. It finally came on vinyl last year, and I held my nose and got it, just for the completist in me

[@davidl570]

They should've called that album In The Hot Shit.

[@surbahar9735]

@@davidl570 exactly

[@michaelslowack903]

Great show! You'd be surprised about how much interesting stuff that we come away with, from 'inverted' shows like these.

[@threestringsomg]

I just can't get into anything by Dream Theatre or Tool....I find them both a bit grating. And yes it's their vocal styles. I clearly hear nice music....but as soon as they sing my hackles rise, I start growling and I scratch at the door viciously.... 🐕And I do not get why either. I love any music that hits normally....

[@SuperStrik9]

I feel exactly the same way about Tool. Not a fan of Maynard's vocals. I do like the song Schism mainly for the bassline though. Dream Theatre I've never gotten into either. As a general rule if I don't like the singer I'm probably not gonna like the band.

[@davidl570]

@@SuperStrik9 That's precisely why I've never liked Led Zeppelin (but oddly enough, I DO like Robert's solo 80s and 90s stuff..................guess I'm a weirdo, I dunno).

[@SuperStrik9]

@@davidl570 Yeah, no offence but that's weird lol.

[@AlinJapan]

Very heartfelt and entertaining! Great to see some warm-hearted ribbing and just how respectful you guys are towards each other's opinions. Standing ovation for you all!

[@ericporter344]

Thanks Alan, I love being on with these guys, they really know there stuff. Respect them all, and fun to hear their opinions. We all have albums that we just don't like, that others feel are classics

[@michaelsalisbury1477]

Under wraps is horrible and so is rest of a knave the worst Tull albums.

[@michaelsalisbury1477]

Stop showing the CDs show only theLPs.

[@michaelsalisbury1477]

What the hell is he showing at the eighteen minute bmark

[@michaelsalisbury1477]

Everyone seems to hate some dream theater albums.why botherentioningh them.

[@petronio63]

How come nobody mentions Rick Wakeman's notorious turds?

[@NapoleanThePug]

"it's the Stranglers being covered by the Beach Boys"... awesome show, boys! loved this one.

[@TranquilityFireReid]

Thanks for watching Greg!

[@ianbrown3304]

You say that as it's a bad thing.

[@vincentleroy5661]

OMG, this is great, best episode yet.

[@CosmikDebris77]

Love the channel, and love this episode. Laughed so hard watching this. Cheered me up at a time I really needed cheering up. Will be buying a shirt or two from the merch store to show my appreciation!

[@ericporter344]

Thanks man, that means a lot and hope you are doing well. Glad we were able to lift your spirits!

[@mikedavis9028]

One of the best and funniest videos you've done - thanks! Is the George voodoo doll going to be available in the merch section?

[@robertpippan89]

I keep rewatching this episode !! its a stone cold classic - needs to have a part 2 !

[@johnhenfrey5936]

Really enjoyable vlog, keep them coming, ready for the next show already.

[@danieltrasente188]

What was the fripp gabriel hamill collab album mentioned near the end?

[@cirjames2540]

Please do a part 2!

[@dhenderson195961]

This has really cheered me up this morning, wonderful stuff. Great to hear a fellow Scot

[@TranquilityFireReid]

Thanks David, so pleased you enjoyed it!

[@chrismoyse3529]

Excellent show. Let’s be honest, there is a whole host of shit prog albums out there.

[@ericporter344]

Thanks for watching and the compliment, and yes, there are plenty of turds to choose from

[@tupacamaruiv5804]

In a Silent Way really surprised me. The album is all about Tony Williams. Miles even stands a bit to the side to feature Tony. The drum patterns are rhythmic fractals. They are absolutely amazing.

[@norbiudeako518]

Your comment about tony will make me listen again but i thought they could have used al foster or someone else. Tony's work around that time with sam rivers and herbie's solo records were brilliant. In a silent way seemed to be a train stop heading for the monumental bitches brew.

[@zerwee7409]

@@norbiudeako518i actually prefer in a silent way to bitches brew has an extreme subtlety and by proxy peacefulness lacking in any of miles' other albums usually he either just goes full throttle with energy or leaves you suspending until he does again for brief periods he doesn't just usually leave you suspending for a full album though and i greatly appreciate he does do that on in a silent way even kind of blue has more drive and explicit progression to it than in a silent way does

[@davidglover1132]

Loved watching this, what a laugh. Inspired me to go and listen again to one of my favourite prog albums of all time................Pawn Hearts.

[@ericporter344]

Thanks for watch David, glad you got a laugh from it, that was the spirit that was intended for this episode.

[@ImprobableTodd]

With Pawn Hearts, start with a big bongful before you judge...listen in silence and soak it all in.

[@fingersmaster]

Is there a recording available of the long complete version of Asia's Midnight Sun you guys are talking about? Thanks.

[@lasercd7851]

As far as I know only performances from their first tour.

[@attichatchsound-bobkowal5328]

I remember ELP "Works" tour was the first concert (in the Detroit area anyway) to charge DOUBLE DIGITS!!!! ($11!!!) Never Mind that unlike most groups who bring in local orchestras each stop, ELP brought their own Orchestra/infrastructure.

[@kylekirchhevel9097]

As for Spock's Beard, I'm all over the map with them. They can sound transcendent, or like 3 different songs having a traffic accident. I love the first Asia album... the second one is total trash.

[@lpc1231000]

I liked their first two. Astra was complete shiite.

[@AngryCalvin]

Yeah I actually prefer Alpha over the first album. It's more melodic and has more symphonic feel. Astra is badly missing Steve Howe. Doesn't add anything new or creative. They sound almost bored.

[@ZackAttackP1]

Pete: "All right... George?" George: "Continuing on my path to Pete banning me from this show..." Theme of this episode.

[@randyhenderson6166]

I am with you, George. I have tried with Court/Crimson King. I don't see the appeal either.

[@georgelamie7001]

Had to be a couple of us out there!

[@ericporter344]

@@georgelamie7001 I need a new album cover on my wall for the next episode 😀

[@Geezer-yf8hv]

I can sing along with the “ahhhhhs” on the title track, but that’s it!

[@brichards989]

Thank you guys for this wonderful break from reality. I needed this today.

[@ericporter344]

Thanks for watching Brian

[@TranquilityFireReid]

Our pleasure Brian!

[@martinkyle1463]

Unless I've completely got the wrong end of the stick, the folk musician referred to as Colin Scot is Anthony Thistlethwaite, with two 'th's, who has worked with The Waterboys and Fairground Attraction. Regarding the Genesis pop albums, I recall reading a Phil Collins interview in which he said he never liked progressive rock anyway, especially ELP. He seemed to be saying, 'I'm a big pop star now, working with the Four Tops, Eric Clapton, etc, and progressive rock doesn't feature anymore.'

[@ovidiudumitrescu5898]

Best SOT show so far.Congratulations to all the guys ...it was a pure delight.Please.make a part 2 show...You ll find plenty of albums that suck...for sure .Keep up the good work.dudes.Respect.

[@ericporter344]

Thanks Ovidiu, much appreciated, and glad you enjoyed, definitely a fun episode

[@georgelamie7001]

Thanks Ovidiu! I could def. come up with 5 more.

[@SmartDave60]

Which record is the guy talking at 01:27:00?

[@danielwang7793]

Colin Scot. EDIT: Holy crap it's awful. He wasn't lying.

[@SmartDave60]

@@danielwang7793 which song is Gabriel on?

[@tmc1054]

Luis, you're a legend. Get better

[@ericporter344]

Luis is a legend for sure! Thanks for watching

[@vagabond197979]

I must have missed it but why is he in the hospital? Either way he's still hitting it out of the park.

[@vincentwojdacki7346]

Thank You very much!! That was really entertaining!!!

[@ericporter344]

Thanks for watching Vincent, glad you enjoyed the show!

[@rs9003]

Rick Wakeman - Myths and Legends of King Arthur. Its like you can't take a guy wearing a cape seriously anymore.

[@nectarinedreams7208]

Who says you're supposed to take him seriously?

[@CasperHulshof]

I love that album. Not all heroes don't wear capes!

[@kamranmalik8546]

As I have said before Pink Floyd's 'The Final Cut' (1983) Others: Dream Theater- The Astonishing (2016) Yes- Heaven and Earth (2014) (only two songs I like that's it) GTR (1986) ELP- In The Hot Seat (1994) Marillion- Sounds That Can't Be Made (2012) Peter Gabriel- Us (1992) ('Steam' is my favorite track) Jethro Tull- Roots to Branches (1995) The Moody Blues- December (2003) P.S. I just tuned in, and saw Luis, I hope and wish him a healthy and speedy recovery

[@andrewpeters8906]

Us also has Digging in the Dirt which I really like.

[@espojespo5]

I disagree about Dream Theater's album. They've never made a bad album. Maybe so so albums like that one and Falling into Infinity, but it's still FAR from crap.

[@mickb44]

@@espojespo5 since portnoy left all been boring and bland

[@threestringsomg]

Well good music can grate on you too....I've loads of pet hates based on my own preferences. I find the spirit of the singer ends up being actually really important to me for example...I've no idea why. It just is. And I just can't get into loving the singing style/tone/character of bands like Dream Theater very often....I have started to ease off that pet hate a little. I'm really enjoying Elder at the moment and they aren't a million miles away really...people have their own quirks I suppose🤷‍♂️

[@chrispicha]

Fun show guys, loved it!! George with the good strategy of picking well-regarded albums worked great. 💪😀

[@Eelgram]

Love Asia's debut and GTR's sole release. Admittedly, far from progressive milestones, but taken as AOR albums, both are fantastic collections that I enjoy to this day (and "Sketches In The Sun" remains arguably my favorite Howe solo piece). Great episode, guys. Love these discussions and the passion they stir for the music we love! BTW: What's the back story on the head bandage, Luis? Recent surgery? Just curious, as your hospital room and situation seems to be the elephant in the room.

[@CasperHulshof]

Pete himself lists GTR as a 'one album wonder' in one of his videos, so to see him nodding in assent was a bit surprising.

[@adamsmashups4839]

I definitely need to check out more from Max Bacon.When ever I think of who my favorite vocalists are,for some reason or other I always forget about Max.

[@leinbajr]

Great to see some NEARfest peeps! Get well soon, Luis!

[@tylerboley1786]

on those days when my woman left, my dog died, my truck broke, and I've got the pukes, you know, just feelin' kinda blue, I come back to this.. sometimes I only need the 1st 10 minutes. History made here

[@RekkidTalk]

I'm only 20 minutes in and George is crushing Pete's soul.

[@fw72]

George is the best

[@marxnutz]

I'm surprised no one mentioned Calling All Stations.

[@diannecarpenter7718]

Thank you guys for your opinions and picks. All the damn time. 🎤🎸🎵🎹🥁

[@CMI2017]

The Emerson piano concerto was more derivative than amateurish. All of Emerson's influences are on display The orchestration is not bad. Good chat; esp nadir of 1980's prog.

[@TranquilityFireReid]

Yes, derivative is the correct word CM. Completely agree. I did admit that I actually do like that album but I hate what it stood for and what it helped make ELP become.

[@thomasflatley323]

i prefer rachel flower's version - kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4fKmpR_f5hkors

[@glenngouldification]

The Emerson Concerto jumps around too many musical themes. I think it could be rearranged to develop fewer themes gradually, it could be great. It suffers from poor orchestration. Squeaky sparse violins seem to dominate. It needs to be filled out with a deeper rich full orchestral timbre including more bass and cellos. I do like the energy and fury of the third movement. Easily the best part of the work. If this is reworked it could be one for the ages and a great lasting tribute to Keith.

[@peteygemini60]

Luis gets the Prog dedication award for his efforts.

[@TranquilityFireReid]

He certainly does Peter. Did you get my reply to you yesterday?

[@mdlatham]

What was going on with him? Was he in hospital? What dedication

[@davidl570]

@@mdlatham He apparently had brain surgery--dunno the whole story though.

[@progmanjum]

Like your new 'do Pete. When I hit 50 I lost my lovely locks. It was time. But I do miss them.

[@dougcarey7314]

Pete, I LOVE this episode. You guys are so fun. I almost feel like I'm sitting at the table with you. My buddies and I are kind of like this, but you guys were beyond hilarious (Love the flaming of Asia's first album). Love all that you do. Thanks so much! Keep it Up, Please : )

[@ericporter344]

Thanks Doug.

[@dumcasta9327]

Thank you from Australia for the best fun I've had sitting down for a long while! The split screen made it look like the hospital had a wall of CDs...funny stuff and I love he way you all gave each other space ... Nurse! Nurse! (how about a female voice?)