Search and rescue underway after deadly plane crash in DC

[@1-danewraith804]

My guess is that the helo was on a VFR night flight for training. IF that was the case, and from what little I could see from the film, the helo APPEARED to have flown into the AA (American Airlines) flight. I am a retired Air Traffic controller of 30 years (both military and FAA). IF the helo was on a training mission in VFR (Visual Flight Rules (see and avoid) conditions, the pilots may have been distracted by the training going on in the helo IF that is what was occurring. The AA flight was on final and descending into DC to land. The night was CAVU (Clear Air Visibility Unrestricted). If the helo (although instructed to maintain visual separation by ATC) was distracted by whatever, (it's extremely noisy in military helicopters), the helo MAY HAVE UNWITTINGLY flown into the commercial jet, thus causing the midair collision. (DISCLAIMER: this is my OPINION ONLY ... not factual until more facts become available over the ensuing days and weeks) 😔

[@flutebasket4294]

Why would tower have these two craft anywhere near each other?

[@Matt-wd6in]

​@@flutebasket4294unfortunately, it's become the accepted practice to allow helicopters to share that airspace with commercial airlines. ATC had no say in the matter

[@TrevorPoole-y7b]

Plausible. Do all military and small commercial aircraft carry black boxes nowadays ?

[@christinevogtklimshuk2617]

Thank you for your insight. It will be interesting to see what turns the investigations take. Ultimately, regardless of how it happened, and of course we all wonder, but I hope people remember to pray for the families and friends of these poor people.

[@1-danewraith804]

@@christinevogtklimshuk2617 ❤

[@BBean1]

Am I the only one who thinks they will blame DEI?

[@AmityOhCramity98]

Trump just spent an insulting long time talking about it and also bashing Pete Buttigieg for no reason in his press conference AFTER it was announced that there are no survivors. Just insulting to the families of the victims.

[@Alfimation]

Why would they?

[@BBean1]

@@Alfimation Trump just BLAMED DEI LIVE!

[@Susa-by8pc]

He sure did . Sad.

[@jarhead3864]

DEI is a laughing stock. You should be qualified for a job.

[@susanb2015]

1982 Potomac plane crash.

[@BaltimoreKid410]

Air Florida

[@lizzieb6311]

Yes..I can still see the video (that those of us were old enough to remember), of the woman, blinded by jet fuel, struggling in the icy river when a man jumped from the bridge to save her. Terrible then and such a tragedy today. God Bless those who perished and the families and friends they leave behind.

[@grandmaida7819]

Yeah, that was horrible too. Also Eastern 401 back in the 70's crashing into the Everglades.

[@susanb2015]

Lenny Skutnick jumped into the water and rescued her.

[@susanb2015]

He was acknowledged by President Reagan for being a hero.

[@TrevorPoole-y7b]

I don't fly if I can help it any more. The odds of a plane crash are slim. The odds of surviving one are slimmer. I am not afraid of flying. I am afraid of dying.

[@Kyle_P]

Don’t fly at night if you can help it. Fewer crashes that are deadlier. I would also bet only reason there are more crashes during the day is purely volume. Similar to why driving a car is also fairly dangerous, we just do it so often. All my flight experience comes from simulators, but that’s still my advice. Avoid night flights. Go for the morning flights. Fairly calm and good visibility.

[@courtney4173]

Airlines are statistically the safest form of travel. Cars are the most dangerous followed by pedestrian incidents. Still more deadly to walk places than to travel by plane lol

[@neilboucher2529]

How does this happen? Seriously?

[@NativeTexMexican]

Apparently, Blackhawks don't have sensors to tell them they're about to hit anything other than the ground. Someone in the crew is supposed to look out for that. Guess he was lookin at his phone or something... Idk.

[@grandmaida7819]

Horrible stuff. Looking @ an aerial map of that region, the military aircraft base appears to be so close to Regan!

[@khoi83]

Sorry there is no one to rescue anymore.

[@MichaelDuhaime-ge7pm]

Trumps fault

[@BaltimoreKid410]

Unfortunately

[@SteveGains426]

Black Hawk military helicopters are equipped with anti collision tech. How can it crash into a passenger jet at the most protected airport in the USA? It looks like the helicopter came from behind the jet and intentionally crashed into the jet

[@lizzieb6311]

This is heartbreaking…it takes me back to the horrific crash in the Potomac decades ago in the 1980s but incredibly there were a few survivors on that crash. Terrible tragedy for all.

[@Craig-wp3pz]

After this long, in cold water?!?!? Its not survivors they're looking for...😞

[@caroleminke6116]

There are no true accidents

[@hms19018]

Talking in different frequencies? That is what they are saying. Then why the heck they are in the same area?

[@1-danewraith804]

MOST military aircraft are UHF (Ultra High Frequency) equipped. Civilian aircraft are mostly VHF (Very High Frequency) ... ATC has both frequencies keyed up when they are controlling aircraft. HOWEVER, IF this was the case in this midair ... neither aircraft could hear the other

[@TrevorPoole-y7b]

In the video there is a large plane, lights blazing, above and to the right of the collision. I wonder if anyone aboard could see the incident ?

[@BaltimoreKid410]

Listen to ATC it tells you what the pilot said

[@briancooney9952]

That plane was departing away from the crash, they most likely would not have seen it. I think the pilots that saw it were either the ones on the ground on rwy 1, or on the approach behind the incident aircraft

[@kelg-ti7xb]

109 million dollars jet just crashed and now this black hawk and civilians plan 😮

[@allenmccreary2359]

Wearing your tinfoil hat this morning?

[@BaltimoreKid410]

They diverted every flight to BWI I never seen so many planes at once in my life. RIP to the passengers

[@sweetsuite498]

All of this seems highly UNLIKELY to happen.

[@TrevorPoole-y7b]

My bet would be ATC tried to "thread the needle" trying to anticipate gaps in flight patterns which if off by a small amount is very dangerous. ATC is under heavy pressure to handle more and more traffic. DC is very busy. I dont think military aircraft should fly over DC except presidential traffic. Too few ATC controllers doesn't help.

[@grandmaida7819]

👍

[@briancooney9952]

ATC did nothing wrong or abnormal. The Helicopter pilots did not follow the ATC instructions. People don't seem to understand that ATC does not control the aircraft, The pilots do. Even if ATC gives bad instructions (which they did not do in this circumstance) it's the pilot's responsibility to not crash the aircraft.

[@truthseeker-t8d]

Question Who were the people in the cash? Airport tower they have Air control to guide the airplanes.

[@cherierhynes8514]

Am heartbroken over such a senseless loss. Figure it out before another helicopter takes another life perhaps better training and better screening for pilots. 😮😢

[@westleywest7259]

How long before trump blames Pelosi or Schumer? 🙄🙄🙄

[@thischicksmobilerepair]

It’s his Fault no one else hope Hegseth is not too drunk for the briefing.

[@rerickf]

That's sick making this political

[@Denariusjay]

Pelosi and Schumer are traitors

[@1-danewraith804]

@@rerickf I concur with your assessment ... or maybe it's just upset democrats still licking their wounds (we know they're never wrong and never admit truth)

[@grandmaida7819]

IKR. Can't help thinking of all those beautiful souls lost and yet in the WH sits...

[@annamariayannetta242]

💔🙏💔🙏💔🙏💔🙏💔🙏💔🙏💔🙏💔🙏 0:28

[@ReikiActivate]

Sending prayers, love and light!!!🤍🤍🤍

[@MichaelDuhaime-ge7pm]

I bet u are

[@tas22222]

yes yes icy water i dont see any ice just so cold or something this is over selling a tragedy per usual. ICEY FRIGID COLD WATERS !! calm down. disgusting

[@ManuabbasManuabbas-nn7xk]

How to send Colombia refugees.not good.U S should be inform them.God looking this.

[@LuciaChaurand]

This is sad that the plane got crash in DC on Wednesday night. 😢 🙏 ✈️

[@woxnerw]

Question IS ... W H O - H I T - W H O ??? The Media People has to Stop making the N E W S..

[@jamesmoore3694]

good luck kids............................trump fired all of the I.G.swhoes job was to over see things as such

[@1-danewraith804]

interesting concept ... the President fires someone and that causes a midair collision....

[@grandmaida7819]

Definitely concerning for sure!

[@jamesmoore3694]

@@1-danewraith804 more like who is at fault, who is responcible..............and pays the final costs

[@1-danewraith804]

@@jamesmoore3694 true indeed James. Unfortunately that will take a lotta months from now.

[@lordnilsson]

AI-control systems for helping the flight leaders......??????

[@therealsongstress]

🙏🏽❤️🙏🏽🥲🥲🥲

[@tammiwest1988]

What went wrong is President Trump firing the people that knew what they were doing and now the families are going to suffer the pain and anger of what is going on in this country may God comfort us all and made these people rest in peace, Hegseth does not know what he is doing

[@truewax257]

You're an ultra-maroon!

[@KateWoodehouse]

Oh please. He’s only been in office for 9 days. It’s too soon for his policies to have caused this.

[@stagename1031]

No one Trump hired or fired would remotely be involved with this situation! NO ONE! There have been no changes yet to trickle down organizations that would have been involved in this! This was a training exercise gone wrong. Not to mention the air traffic controllers plus the pilot of the helicopter!

[@renelogeais2941]

Seriously? The people "who knew what they were doing" could've prevented this accident? Way to turn a tragedy into a political opinion. Get a life.

[@flutebasket4294]

The exact opposite is more likely. D E I hires still at their posts caused this.

[@robertfrank9228]

Training

[@flutebasket4294]

Claims a lot of lives that training......

[@jonnekeg-]

heyyy thanks for watching and dont miss the today show every weekday at 11am eastern classy stuff

[@grandmaida7819]

IKR

[@Rosagale1012]

FalseFlagAlert!

[@kaaytie84]

Was this on purpose?

[@HawaïGenevièveLambert]

😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@jackieburton9467]

😮

[@2olvets443]

They need to turn RR airport over to the military and use BWI for commercial traffic.

[@BaltimoreKid410]

Ummmm Noooooo

[@2olvets443]

@ you do know it has been discussed a few time due to the congestion of air traffic, right. If they maybe reduced the flights to lower congestion it would be better.

[@BaltimoreKid410]

@@2olvets443Buddy Dulles is 4 times bigger than BWI and closer to DC!! 💭 think

[@TrevorPoole-y7b]

There should be no aiports at all within 20 miles of DC

[@2olvets443]

@ didn’t think of Dulles, Ty for the reminder

[@smoothoperator2008s]

Has Pete Hegseth resigned, yet.

[@allenmccreary2359]

You need your TDS surgically removed by a proctologist

[@SpringoStar]

Who is going to investigate the Control Tower? Everyone in there needs to explain how this can occur. Something smells fishy here.

[@mp-xt2rg]

There's nothing fishy. The controller asked the helicopter if they had the jet on final in sight they said yet. Then tower said go behind the jet. Helicopter crashed into it instead. I can assure you jet and tower did everything right. I'm a pilot.

[@briancooney9952]

@@mp-xt2rg exactly! Too many people here think that ATC "Controls" the aircraft. They don't. They tell the pilots what to do, and if the pilots don't do it, bad things happen!

[@briancooney9952]

Investigate what? The investigation will be on why military pilots flew directly into a passenger jet that they reported "In sight" and were instructed to pass behind.

[@jaysmith179]

Blame the DEI hires.

[@briancooney9952]

@@jaysmith179 Listen to the ATC recording. Pilot doesn't sound like a DEI hire. Sounded like a middle aged dude with a midwestern accent.

[@kelg-ti7xb]

Plus they lost a 5.9 million dollars helicopter 😮

[@jimlampert2897]

No mo DEI pilots please

[@serraangel7465]

Dei includes veterans, male veterans.

[@colins11]

Wildly incompetent