Hey everyone, I just wanted to get a list out early to help with the early season uncertainties, keep in mind this list was made on day one of the new season so there may be some inaccuracies due to small sample size, for example if I were to remake it now I'd put Riven lower due to the weak bruiser items but in general I'd keep the majority of the champs in the same spot
@hughtitchener64787 ай бұрын
Singed S tier for sure coach
@thememewalker7 ай бұрын
HE'S BACK!!! Very excited to see more for the new season, I'm glad you got the break you deserved!
@allhammersmatter7 ай бұрын
Your in-depth champion guides have were well made and detailed so I don't think fully redoing them for this season is necessary. Maybe something like 'How the new map and items affected these champions' and group 3-4 of the ones you previously covered into a single video, with the original ones being referenced for things like lane matchups and counters. Just to keep them season relevant.
@TenjinZekken7 ай бұрын
I agree.unless there were huge changes that heavily affects their patterns, I think most of the things you said probably still apply. You can also do what Coach Cup a ke does for support and make shorter addendum videos to cover just the parts that changed.
@yourgrace55147 ай бұрын
33:01 Cat Chippys in the background.
@NegaMogekoo7 ай бұрын
As a Riven main, the item changes are DOGSHIT. Less Cooldown overall, less sustain, less armor penetration and good items being too expensive for her, makes her a LOT WORSE in this season compared to S13.
@El-Iks7 ай бұрын
Bro what? If you rush spear of shojin + transcendence you usually have enough to q delay. The issue is the sustain but for that you'd better build hydra first. Since you're a riven main you should still know that she's best when ahead so obviously you need to make sure of that. Also remember that most tank items got nerfed to the point you'll simply be dealing more damage than they'll sustain. Riven is crazy rn
@NegaMogekoo7 ай бұрын
@@El-Iks Bro what? They only nerfed 2 tank items with 5 less armor or 50 less HP, but new tank items being added, jaksho being more stat item instead of sustain item, hydra nerfed it's damage, nerfed it's lifesteal, nerfed the gold price to 150 more for less stats, eclipse with no %dmg, armor pen items changed to lethality, lethality being flat damage and does not scale with ad. Riven with 3 items reached 110/120 AH and now you need 5 items to reach that spike. Riven is NOT AN EARLY GAME CHAMPION. She's a snowball champion with setup for splitpush and teamfight in lategame and she benefits the most from AH and flat armor pen.
@El-Iks7 ай бұрын
@@NegaMogekoo I guess we just have different experiences. From what I've seen and played she does feels awkward at first but after getting used to it she might be in a better spot than before
@Mapache19997 ай бұрын
As a Riven enthusiast, I hard agree with @NegaMogekoo. Riven will be weaker and less snowbally.
@yutasato24417 ай бұрын
Hi, at 13:50 you mentioned how Kled got weaker because Goredrinker is gone, but Kled's best build last season is: Ravenous Hydra - Eclipse - Mortal Reminder/Black Cleaver - Situational but you're right about his build losing a LOT of ability haste, which sucks but I think it makes items like bork, shojin or even navori look attractive for him.
@yoyokeepitup7 ай бұрын
Hydra is quite a bit weaker now, and no lethality on eclipse definitely hurt the champ quite a lot
@4zqS7 ай бұрын
Just commenting to wish you a happy new year and that I'm glad you are still making quality content to help us improving.
@lionize77 ай бұрын
hey chief, in your future tierlist videos, could you add a side-by-side of your tierlist for all elos vs your tierlist for high elos (d2+)?
@galaxytheinter63327 ай бұрын
I personally disagree very much with this tierlist. Based on early stats which are still reprentative in some way, since there are tousands of games already its pretty clear, that basically all AP Toplaner are A+ or S tier. Also Vayne seems pretty OP right now, since its pretty hard to gank top right now, which was her biggest weakness. And if you dont completely int every gold player should be able to pick her up or champs like kennen, who also is pretty good right since the new items give him exactly what he wants. But I still appreciate that Video since its really rare to find tierlist with reasonable explaination. :D
@yamiyamigorogoro57397 ай бұрын
yeah but you are low elo and are just regurgitating what others are saying on reddit, chippy is an actual boss
@galaxytheinter63327 ай бұрын
@@yamiyamigorogoro5739 I am better than 98% of the playerbase. I wouldnt call that low elo
@galaxytheinter63327 ай бұрын
@@yamiyamigorogoro5739 the differnce between him and me is, that he had no data prior to making this Video and I have now, since the patch is already out. If he had the data he would propably change his tierlist a bit as well
@FilthyGaijin7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video coach. I haven't been able to play the last few months and now I have an injured hand. But slowly getting better to take this new season with full force.
@TheBritishPoro7 ай бұрын
Hard disagree on Riven, Hydra Eclipse last season was so much stronger than anything you can build this season.
@Mapache19997 ай бұрын
Me too. Specially that she would be strong in all elo brackets, like she were as easy as Jax.
@vllajko3067 ай бұрын
I have to disagree with Riven being s tier. She might benefit from Sunderer being removed but the new items are terrible on Riven. She can't get enough haste with one item and armor pen is just shit
@jorne68637 ай бұрын
As a renekton main... finally someone who doesn't put him in A/S tier for no reason. I see so much people saying ''yeah shojin is going to be good on him'' but... it doesn't work on his W, his main source of damage ! Hulkbreaker is bugged on his W, same for Sundered sky... Hexplate new item is not bad on him but probably not that great as others champions. I think renekton will definitively be weaker in average hands, the ''common'' goredrinker/sterak/bc build is no longer possible due to goredrinker removal and bc is way weaker. Sterak is still strong tho. But in OTP hands he will probably recover. At the moment he is at 46 porcent winrate btw, he will probably be better when most randoms renekton will leave the champion. So if it's for ''average'' renekton player i'd say he is more C than B. Probably high B in OTP/good hands.
@sasola2227 ай бұрын
Do Garen and Yone pls
@ishox08557 ай бұрын
Oh my god I was looking for another listfor the new season thank you!!!
@Steeple_7 ай бұрын
Shen 😥I think he has the potential to be incredibly strong this season. At least stronger than last season for sure with better tank items and Titanic Hydra active returning.
@thodoriskonstantopoulos36917 ай бұрын
I was about to write the same! Better wave clear Better mr item and with heartsteel he doesn't fall back lete game
@flarexify7 ай бұрын
Agreed, he beats most tanks too
@Kultyras7 ай бұрын
If you like to play tanks, dont blind pick them, they are really easy to counterpick. As an example if you FP Mundo, there is a high chance you get countered by Aatrox or some botrk user lol
@iratevagabond2042 ай бұрын
I've tried Aatrox so many times, but I can't get the mechanics down - I can't keep enemies in the sweet spot of his Q. It's a bummer because I snatched up his dope ass prestige bloodmoon skin.
@Ashen-Crow7 ай бұрын
I think swain is serously a toplaner to consider, he has very polarizing matchups but with ROA being cheaper, liandry's/riftmaker being a option and cosmic drive giving health, the super server build just got so much stronger.
@Toddwastaken7 ай бұрын
What is the super server build?
@Ashen-Crow7 ай бұрын
@@Toddwastaken rod of ages, cosmic drive, frozen heart, abyssal mask basically. Runes are Aery or Phase rush.
@CoachChippys7 ай бұрын
Great point, will add him in future lists
@yoyokeepitup7 ай бұрын
ROA is cheaper, but it got hit quite a bit on stats/utility, the loss of the move speed buff definitely hurts it. It's definitely like bottom 3 AP items rn
@delionnen95737 ай бұрын
in depth camille guide pls... it's long overdue :)
@Madge1047 ай бұрын
I've been waiting, please more videos man
@fredkamaru_echecs2 ай бұрын
Hey coach ! What about the monkey king wukong ? Is he that bad he doesn't deserve to go in the top lane tier list I play Sett and Trynda and I feel Wukong feels the holes those 2 have, like Darius or Jax Still, your content is top tier ! As a beginner top laner it helps me so so much !
@ConcoKid20117 ай бұрын
Keep the content coming! Been enjoying :)
@krystofsedlacek7 ай бұрын
Is the new hullbreaker still viable on splitpushers like fiora/jax, they dont need more damage to towers no? Btw great video as always!
@highnoon28447 ай бұрын
Gwen is one of Urgot's easiest matchups because she cant ever use E aggressively. The akali lane is very playable too (and you can easily get early prio into her) and at one item she just doesnt win. Rumble is the only unplayable matchup out of those three. And no, thid is not how it goes in gold, I'm also talking about master till chall. I dont like it when these tier lists explain matchups of champs they obviously dont play because more often than not its not their expertise.
@Ray-zw4md7 ай бұрын
Hey coach, I was wondering if you've ever played or considered Lillia top. She does a lot of what other AP top bullies can do, but it surprisingly safe and strong throughout the entire game. Ult always useful and kind of dominates into anything but ranged AA (vayne, teemo, quinn) IMO.
@johnnecron33317 ай бұрын
Feels bad seeing my boy kled in d tier Thought this season might be his chance to really shine with the new lethality items since most kled players i've seen build rav into eclipse or yommus Maybe profane hydra might be good on him but who knows im not an expert by any means love the content hope you cover my mushroom addicted yordle soon
@Bighomer57 ай бұрын
That's cool, maybe I'll get to play some Fiora this season and not feel bad about it. Good to see Ksante drop as well, now if they could get rid of Yone that would be swell.
@chabbab66987 ай бұрын
Guess you totally missed on the STRONG AP top laners right now, but It was kind of surprising to everyone. Still great video and thanks for your commitement.
@estevandesodt55087 ай бұрын
I ve been playing a bit of kayle on this patch and the rush kraken is omega good because it gives you so much power in early game and you can be lvl 6 at 5 minutes so I'd say below high masters if you know how to manage your lane to get your lvl 6 on the 5min wave it's still really good to fight for void grubs with your jgl
@derpferdeflusterer34607 ай бұрын
I would put illoai in the C tier because his second most important item (hullbreaker) is not as good for him as it was last season and the map changes on toplane now force him to either go defensive or extremely offensive and gankable since there is less terrain for tentacles to spawn
@popamihnea66957 ай бұрын
Singed B tier aged like Milk
@randygarrett26717 ай бұрын
Review this list in a week. It seems lethality buffs weren't really a huge impact on your tier list.
@TallGirthyMan7 ай бұрын
for fiora rushing profane hydra seems a better option no?
@acecannon96767 ай бұрын
I’m really interested in itemization for (Jax) top laners this season. No Sunderer or goredrinker seems huge, so I’m wonder what alternatives we should aim for.
@hideonbabe14987 ай бұрын
you never build gore on jax wtf bro
@hideonbabe14987 ай бұрын
tryinity obviously
@shogoyo7887 ай бұрын
Hi Chippys, I really like your video guides and tierlists. They are very informative. It will be great if you can cover how the new season map changes and items affect top laners. As for champion guide, maybe yone?
@Tronkh017 ай бұрын
Only problem with the ap tops are the magic resist items for me
@Eduan_the_King7 ай бұрын
Im zac top otp and too be honest he is this season A high tier! Last season it would be impossible to duel against champions like jax, illaoi, camille, fiora, nasus who would just build sunderer, it was literally the best item to counter him but now there literally isnt any item that can do that. Maybe if your against smth super cheesy like barrier, first item BORK ww and if they play really well you can have some trouble, or if its like a really good darius or sett, but thats the only reason why he is not S for this rare cases. But apart from that if you play good on him theres no way that you will loose lane especially beeing able to build anathemas first item and now y actually have a ap version of sun fire wich you can rush first as well?! Its too good, not to talk about his strong point wich is not even early game but tf Edit: even tho i dont play him there he was pretty good mid but now with stormsurge he is even better there i think (full ap)
@diogoorstone7 ай бұрын
What would be some good blind picks?
@Miksu__7 ай бұрын
Very interesting how skillcapped placed Yone in D tier and here he's S. Not trying to discredit anyone tho
@camclarke54147 ай бұрын
He’s a stat check, and an insane split pusher. But outside of that he’s not insane, and can falter in many situations and comps
@tooexsy30097 ай бұрын
skillcapped is for bronze. Chippys is for mid high elo 💪
@PurpleDragonSpike7 ай бұрын
I think Chippys has enough accolades behind him for me to go with him all day rather than "appeal to the basic masses" appeal of skillcapped
@Tookul7 ай бұрын
Better ask only high elo yone player - Dzukill. Yone is d tier in high elo for sure
@richardsalzmann79467 ай бұрын
@@camclarke5414"yone a stat checker" okay enough internet for today
@caelanmasters59987 ай бұрын
Detailed Poppy Guide coming soon? 👀👀👀
@Cresponia7 ай бұрын
I disagree with the comments on Poppy. If itemised correctly, she can definitely be a threat to the backline. We'll have to see about itemisation without Sunderer though.
@abemad217 ай бұрын
Where is wukong?
@WarrenLux2 ай бұрын
I say A tier
@lucasbishop51777 ай бұрын
Im a camille otp and personally i say she is C tier because she feels a lot harder to play because of the more open top lane and her items are expensive and fighting tankd without divine does feel harder
@thefallenwatermelon34957 ай бұрын
put chogath straight to s tier
@epicguy18307 ай бұрын
one tricked maokai from plat hardstuck to d1 in like 50 games i definitely think he should be at least b tier with how easy he is and how useful he is when behind
@bohomazdesign7257 ай бұрын
So far from what I've seen any champ that builds Tank / AP / Crit / Lethality just insanely shits on champs that go Bruiser items. Bruiser items are dead and Phreak already said it indirectly in his 14.1 patch preview a couple days ago.
@Kohlroulade7 ай бұрын
highest wr toplane kayle d tier :D gragas 48% wr s tier :D maybe u could do a reaction to your tierlist in a weak when there is enough data.
@TheKarol0965 ай бұрын
I wonder if this is still relevant, esp towards Riven
@VintageCuration7 ай бұрын
he really didn't even mention wukong at all
@WarrenLux2 ай бұрын
I say A tier
@zero_lnd86627 ай бұрын
Can you pls make a yone guide so that we can pilot him well
@DiezDrake7 ай бұрын
As long as lethal tempo is a keystone, you don't really need to turn on your brain to play Yone.
@d4s0n2827 ай бұрын
@@DiezDrake naw, it will take effort with hull not being a thing anymore
@eidamgouda06097 ай бұрын
Maybe in really low elo, in higher elos he is punishable.. literally only Zeus can play him from pros on top, plus some mid pros.. there are better toplaners in soloq like Jax, ksante, darius, aatrox etc...@@DiezDrake
@DiezDrake7 ай бұрын
@@eidamgouda0609 Depends on your definition of low elo.
@eidamgouda06097 ай бұрын
@@DiezDrake I believe that emerald and higher players know Yone pretty well so they are not gonna get cheesed. and Yone is pretty hard in some matchups, you have to space and kite well to win.. but yeah Yone has insane ceiling
@armorgiraffe7 ай бұрын
wonder how lillia would stand in top this season
@estevandesodt55087 ай бұрын
After watching your opinion on my champions I'd say you can take some of the information on this video but don't take all he says for granted diversify your infos
@thememewalker7 ай бұрын
Wait I just noticed that he ranked Maokai and Zac but not Wukong 💀
@GorbashYeti7 ай бұрын
How did Wukong get forgotten
@WarrenLux2 ай бұрын
I say A tier
@TheGollumGamer7 ай бұрын
warwick top deserves better, he is genuinely fucking busted and can win almost every 1v1 and 2v1 against jg
@swaggingswagster53577 ай бұрын
this will change every patch because game is broken af ap champs should all be S tier bruisers way down
@koo2zoom1067 ай бұрын
Cat at 33:00 :3
@antonbelyaev82957 ай бұрын
No effing way you're making a tierlist with less than a day of massive patch being released
@VitorSantos-mr7wk7 ай бұрын
I think fiora and camille will be very strong with hidra back
@richardsalzmann79467 ай бұрын
Jax gragas riven S Aatrox fiora rumble A Shen D Why even make a new tier list? Nothing has changed for the last 3 years and it never will
@dixcn7 ай бұрын
Camille guide soon?
@Alex-vi6iz7 ай бұрын
So Gwen is blindable now ?
@jaotrx71637 ай бұрын
Why riot refuse to rework choagth
@danielguarino19397 ай бұрын
totally wrong about singed. much easier to get into a proxy.
@Mapache19997 ай бұрын
Riven will be weaker, she definetely doesn't deserve S tier.
@crazysans33117 ай бұрын
where wukong top
@DOMCOM407 ай бұрын
Camille feels impossible to play :/
@LonLon-ww8gn7 ай бұрын
Just go kled mid, he is both S tier top and mid but kled top is Shit and kled mid is Super. The problem is he have no good build. Either tank, bruiser or assain. Consider banning zed if you go mid. The rest is easy. I play kled top for 3 years, reach diamond 1 many time but now I even struggle in low gold, having 45% winrate. Switch to mid and have like 70% win rate. Not a decrease in skill, but kled just so weak in top. Switch to mid and it feel unstoppable, just like back to the golden day!
@gipt9957 ай бұрын
nautilus top is real and i will prove it
@souryorange7 ай бұрын
kled lost gore drinker ? who even built that
@goodboyuhle88304 ай бұрын
mans a coach and put sion in A tier, hes drunk
@dashingflash7 ай бұрын
Wow I’m early
@Arch_Sage7 ай бұрын
First of alll, shojin is awful for sett now. You seem out of touch
@redcooler48047 ай бұрын
Riven is so weak right now. completely disagree
@sldihain79097 ай бұрын
❤
@mightymouse59307 ай бұрын
Your repetitive vocal inflection was hard to listen to. Sorry.
@Takhooo7 ай бұрын
Yorick is E tier
@kurisu39437 ай бұрын
camille buff pls rito
@obgaming2077 ай бұрын
This guide is trash
@ChrisJDee7 ай бұрын
I have been one tricking Fiora, I hope she is in a better spot later this season.
@elrond78877 ай бұрын
I hope fiora stays out of top tier because fuck that champion
@lunacy55107 ай бұрын
Ravenous Hydra is just pretty bad item and insanely expensive, trinity giga overrated by community who can't read stats and use context alongside numbers (talking about people perma parroting that pros and everyone are stupid for not building trinity over sunderer cause trinity has better win rate) and Eclipse was changed for the worse for Riven as well as she lost ability to stack armour pen. I am not gonna be suprised if Camille, Fiora and Riven will get buffed in the next two patches.
@ChrisJDee7 ай бұрын
@lunacy5510 yeah, I think buffs will come their way too. Would be odd for them to fall out of meta
@haydensteven97657 ай бұрын
Evaluation of Warwick is not that great tbh, euw challenger Warwick H0rnlime builds him ad drain tank with hydra then full tank. He definitely going to be strong taking that route this season as well as with all the new tank items