Season Premiere Preview: Chinese Manchu Semi Formal Silk Surcoat, ca. 1880 | ANTIQUES ROADSHOW

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New year, new ANTIQUES ROADSHOW! Get a sneak preview of the Season 29 premiere with this appraisal of a Chinese Manchu semi formal silk surcoat, ca. 1880, at Crystal Bridges Museum of American Art in Bentonville, AR.
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[@Opinionatedboo]

Happy to note that, thanks to all the C-dramas that I have watched, I saw it and immediately knew it was Chinese!

[@RasheedKhan-he6xx]

Haha probably one of the most honest comments! So many people are going "Duh, I instantly knew it was Chinese" whereas I was thinking, "Hmm, looks what the guards wore in Ruyi's Royal Love in the Palace!" 😅 Also, it's in the title of the video so...

[@4happythoughts]

i choked once she said "japanese" - it's like owning a cinderella's glass slippers and saying it's from arandelle

[@_Wai_Wai_]

who is arandelle?

[@Joseph-eh4rs]

​@@_Wai_Wai_ she made it up to point out the fact that the lady in video was oblivious to origin of the Manchu robe.

[@kekiboo]

​@@_Wai_Wai_ It's the Kingdom from Frozen

[@jesse.nguyen]

During Japan's occupation of China, it was common for Japanese soldiers to loot a wide variety of items, including cultural treasures. Qing dynasty robes, known for their intricate craftsmanship and historical significance, were likely among the looted artifacts. This particular robe might be one of those taken during that period.

[@Ladeliciadelinda]

Thank you for mentioning! This is exactly what I thought too. Reminds me of the stories my grandpa apparently used to tell about how he survived the raids

[@kwokmingng4548]

Yup Japanese invasion

[@alainw77]

It may not have been just the Japanese, the looting started with the Europeans since the First Opium War. Some treasures may have been looted by locals and sold to Westerners while others were obtained legally with no questions asked. Whatever the case may be, you can’t assume it was the Japanese.

[@Rebellious2024]

It reminds people of WWII ! The horrible past during Japanese occupation!

[@有明-p4f]

@@alainw77Only Japanese would avoid such an assumption.

[@dancemaniac3868]

The second she said Japanese I heard all my ancestors cry.

[@AngkatanNamwaran]

To be fair, it came from the Japanese embassy.

[@nntflow7058]

They got it from JAPANESE embassy. I guess English isn't yout first language dear?

[@madnessintomagic]

@@dancemaniac3868 I can’t believe these commenters. You can look at that and easily see it’s not Japanese. Also HOW LONG did grannie have it? Did this girl never do a reverse image search? The whole family, apparently, put ZERO effort into learning the provenance of a $2000 purchase? It’s embarrassing.

[@giselleamor8779]

one google lens or image search would show that the coat is chinese (qing dynasty), they did 0 effort on research lol

[@youtubecensors5419]

Weak ancestors... 🤦🏿‍♀️

[@oshi990]

Imagine all this fine, complicated embroidery was done by hand. Am blown away!

[@AliasHSW]

I was in awe to learn my grandmother handmade traditional buttons as found on this robe.

[@_Wai_Wai_]

Many luxury products came thru the Chinese Silk road: tea, Chinese Porcelain (aka Fine China), Lacquerware, and of course silk.

[@yorkiesweetpea23]

This isn't just any tailor made overcoat! This was Imperial made; made by the Imperial seamstresses, specifically for an important person. This should be in a museum, not in someone's closet who thinks its Japanese.

[@aurumdream9693]

This overcoat was just an uniform for a government (not necessary court) officer in Chin Dynasty, on which different ranks command different embroidery patterns. This was tailor made overcoat all right, as matter of fact, all of the OUTfits at that time were made by tailor! Imperial seamstresses were only responsible for the cloths of empire and his family in royal court.

[@viktorcheng2061]

Should be returned to China since it’s a looted item

[@6Euphoria6]

​@aurumdream9693 this is imperial made. For some concubine or imperial women

[@RasheedKhan-he6xx]

You'd need to know about the exact motifs and patterns. These were not simply artistic, they denoted rank and position, for example only the emperor's clothes could have five fingered dragons. The Imperial seamstresses only made garments for members of the Royal Family so unless this belonged to a Royal it's unlikely to have been made by them.

[@6Euphoria6]

@RasheedKhan-he6xx this is clearly an imperial robe. Non Imperials dont dress like that

[@INTJchengmo]

This particular floral medallion known as tuan-hua （团花/circular-flora) was a distinctively 18-19 century Chinese design, so it is not only culturally specific, but also time-specific. In fact, I don’t think this type of tuanhua design & layout was commonly used in Japanese culture at all. Thanks for making this video. I wear Chinese hanfu to work and to my own art shows all the time, and here in N. America, people often mistaken my hanfu as Japanese or call my hanfu a “kimono”. To be fair, some historically accurate hanfu styles, such as the Song and Ming dynasty designs, do look similar to Japanese kimono at a first glance. However, Chinese hanfu and Japanese kimono are easily distinguishable if you know the differences, such as the sleeves, overall cutting patterns, and how the garments are worn/put on. I always struggle to correct people because I don’t want to hurt their feelings, especially in a work environment; seeing this video actually helps me to approach future encounters in a professional and communicative manner! 🧡

[@INTJchengmo]

Also, I work with fashion history and art education, and I need to point out the male host’s comment is incredibly well researched! 👏🙏

[@superchargerone]

what do you mean hanfu of song and ming look similar to japanese kimono when it is the hanfu that the jap copied and influenced their style of clothing development. Cannot put the kart before the horse.

[@abdiver12]

Lark Mason Sr. was always one of my favorite appraisers (who can forget him crying over that Tang dynasty marble lion in Albuquerque?) and it’s wonderful to see his descendants following in his footsteps. Very impressed by this young man’s knowledge, friendliness, and enthusiasm, everything you wanna see in an appraiser.

[@oltedders]

I remember Lark Sr. weeping over the Tang marble lion. 🥹 He was awestruck.

[@bigbigdog]

I agree. He is very knowledgable.

[@slevinlindsay3624]

​@@bigbigdogwonder if he speaks Mandarin proficiently.

[@machupikachu8349]

Did Lark Mason Sr. retire from the show? He was one of my favorite appraisers!

[@randolm7698]

This is why whenever you aquire a piece or learn about your pieces you document, document and document. I have notes attached to all of my 'important' pieces - and backups with my important documents. This way when inevitability ultimately arrives your family can appreciate the things you had - and ensure that history gets preserved.

[@meowchabob]

I don’t think you realize how many of these pieces are acquired in ways people would not like to have any documentation of… especially a piece like this.

[@CjxJamie]

Well... majority of Chinese antiques in the West did not end up there legally, so I'm not sure if people back then want to document it

[@Razorwindsg]

It’s insanely well preserved… I won’t dare even to take it outdoors or out of a humidity controlled box.

[@jessicaregina1956]

Funny how back then it was just a piece of clothing!

[@GIN.356.A]

I feel like a lot of Americans seem to think if its asian and cool / sophisticated, it's Japanese. When in fact much of Japanese culture came from China anyways. Maybe due to media representation.

[@mollyfurball]

Well, China was closed off for decades under the old days communism (and the cultural revolution also wiped out a lot of the historical artifacts, let alone exporting things for outside world to see, which Japanese at the time, are growing in their industrialization & exports), so I guess it's understandable more western people in modern times are less aware of the classical Chinese culture. Meanwhile there was more Japanese culture exposure in modern times (I mean, up to 2000, post millennium, other mixes came into play), so I feel that and among numerous other factors, made western worlds more inclined to think Japanese 1st than Chinese or any other Asian cultures. Like right now, the last decade+ with Korean culture exposure on the rise, the younger generations (I mean kids age) these days are going to think Korean 1st when people speak of Asian culture, especially pop culture. I grew up in Asia at a time when Japanese and Hong Kong pop culture was a heavy influence in the region at the time. It's interesting to see each generation and their surroundings, what exposure they get as different cultures, especially pop culture, are on the rise at each time period.

[@antwango]

​​@@mollyfurballwas closed off due to imperialist colonialist looting and foreign war and invasion all this stuff was before communism... Communism is the 1950's... The garment most probably pre 1900 and obviously looted out of China during century of humiliation

[@TheGoldenDonuttt]

yeah you know... unfortunately they are not very exposed to other cultures or are too self centred to learn about others

[@kwokmingng4548]

The Chinese were the Korean, Japanese and Vietnamese "teacher" in a way. They got the Chinese wisdom,,,ect, the Vietnmese kicked out 2 of the Permanent members of the United Nations Security Council.

[@GIN.356.A]

@@matthieuschmitter6676 really makes you think which is worse, to not have access to knowledge, or to not have the will to learn. I think the latter.

[@IzzyKawaiichi]

I don't want to hate on this woman too much because you don't know what you don't know... but did NO ONE in her family ever think to google "Japanese historical fashion"? That probably would have led them to the right country and period REAL quick.

[@bobbelcher678]

Ignorance and the fact they bought it from a Japanese embassy supposedly so I guess they took it at face avlue

[@brucelee270]

I think it is just for the show

[@IzzyKawaiichi]

@@brucelee270 I'm glad you have that much faith in people.

[@farelimm]

🤨🔎

[@funlovin82]

One look I think of Chinese vampire shows produced in the 1980s or 90s 😂 oh dear! How bad I am!

[@florencechan1184]

😂 very accurate impression I thought it was a for man . The Chinese vampire cult movies are so fun to watch .

[@samanthachia1491]

Better that than thinking it's Japanese

[@phunk8607]

Mr Vampire!!!! You are a person of culture

[@viktorcheng2061]

Yeah, a Jiangshi……

[@jianfengwu7502]

僵尸🧟‍♂️😂

[@The_Not_So_Great_Cornholio]

Keep in mind most people are this woman going on and on about how that thing is Japanese. I know NOTHING about Asian textiles and could tell at a glance it was Chinese. 😂

[@noreengordon5845]

Me too.

[@jhash9554]

🙌🏽💯

[@jkl1202]

Yes me too!! 😊

[@nntflow7058]

So you know about CHINESE PATTERN then.

[@youtubecensors5419]

Once I saw a guest say they had a Swiss watch but it was actually German. I made sure I scoffed at them for being stupid and racist. 👍🏿

[@corgeousgeorge]

aww, that's so sweet of her grandchild to help her organize it all while grandma is still alive so they can relive all the memories with her together! So cool! and also save so much time and family drama when grandma passes. It's a lot of work to do all that, so I hope Grandma lets her choose a few of her favorite things to have😊

[@wilfreddale764]

Seeing how much grandma is worth

[@superlucky4499]

Her “is it expensive to make” response tells you all you need to know about her true intentions.

[@denglance1102]

The expert is absulately impressive. The show should give him credit!

[@noelle3551]

I knew right away this was Chinese! This is no reflection on the owners view. However, if she is about to take on the collection, she needs to research instead of taking it for granted what she has been told about the garment!

[@Mofo0434]

The moment she heard it’s Chinese, she got disappointed

[@peterwilliamson1]

When the guy said she's right that the outfit is only worth $5K, you can see her disappointment again. It's like she's expecting it to worth $10K or so.

[@slevinlindsay3624]

No reason to get disappointed when China is the O.G Asian country and had the most amount of influence on the east Asian countries of Japan and Korea.

[@Mofo0434]

@@slevinlindsay3624 still, it’s made in china lmao

[@slevinlindsay3624]

@@Mofo0434 doesn't matter. That's a stereotype. Chinese people are obviously capable of stunning craftsmanship as shown through these exquisite pieces. It's just that unfortunately their country is not being used for that more recently.

[@Mofo0434]

@ you’re made in china

[@sirkeg1]

Can you imagine, "This is my grandfather's gold candle holder. It's German, I believe it's German. He got it in Munich during the war. It can hold nine candles."

[@sentenialxmen3227]

Amazing robe. This should be in the museum

[@Devilishelise]

I’m Chinese and that is a beautiful overcoat. You can usually tell the history of many historical clothing articles from the embroidery due to the fact that only a person of a certain status could wear certain symbols (an obvious example being that only the emperor could wear dragon symbols etc)

[@jakemoeller7850]

Very beautiful garment

[@jianghuwang]

This is pure art

[@superlucky4499]

The knowledge of the appraiser is impressive!

[@JamesJustice-t3e]

That is a beautiful piece and I wish I had it in my 37 years going on 38 years of collecting. From the sledgemaster

[@akak-dw2cm]

2:33 “was it expensive?”😂 it’s silk, bloody silk, my lady.

[@jdengsky]

This thing is worth a lot of $$$$$$$$$$, and belongs to museum.

[@monkey407]

@@jdengsky not enough for her... See the look on her face, such disappointment. 😑

[@lazyreuvin]

I know she doesn't mean to be racist, but her ignorance makes me angry.

[@youtubecensors5419]

One time a black man thought a caprese salad was a French salad. I made sure to screech at him about how racist and stupid he was.

[@phunk8607]

Yep same

[@angelobandal7112]

That's not her fault nobody is interested in this kinds of things.

[@d1492ay]

@@angelobandal7112 Yes most people don't care about Qing Dynasty imperial court wear. But the difference between most people and her is that she had something she thought was valuable and even made the effort to bring it to the show. You would think she do some basic research and figure out which country it is actually from? It's not hard to do search on traditional Japanese wear, and realize that they look nothing like this, and get curious about where it is actually from. Instead, she made a fool of herself by declaring that it is Japanese when it looks nothing like traditional Japanese clothing.

[@angelobandal7112]

@d1492ay Her only purpose is to sell it. Besides there's an expert in front of here and that is his job. And her grandma's got it from an acquaintance from the Japanese embassy, so, that's why they think it is from there, it is NOT her collection to begin with. Also, there are a lot of people out there not only her that don't know the basic information of historical artifacts that they have and that's just okay, in auction there's expert whose job it is to tell her.

[@monkey407]

"was this very expensive to make...." is a dead giveaway that she's only concerned about the money. She was majorly disappointed when told the robe was made in the late 1800s and valued at $5k instead of more.

[@mysnapple6994]

Haha Can't hear the disappointment in her voice. She not trying to catalog her grandma stuff she's trying to profit off it.

[@P4124D0X]

Shes looking to catalogue grandmas entire collection so she knows what to ask for when it's time.

[@ListerTube]

Beautiful piece. All hand made and dyed.

[@eastern2western]

No way that a 100 year old cloth cab still look so good.

[@cottonbomb8272]

答案是：清朝补服。我英文水平不足难以翻译，有能力的可以帮忙介绍。 首先补服主要就是明清两朝，明朝补服素色更多，红线绣金，看到绣五彩基本就是清朝。清朝补子直径也小于明朝。 这件八团补服规格较高但没有品级，应该是皇室宗亲家的女眷使用的。因绣以八团（前胸后背两肩正反下摆各二）在等级严峻的清朝，即便是女眷也应该地位较高，个人看法是皇室女眷。没品级是因为图样，如果是正装补服应该绣以夫家对应图样，皇室绣五爪龙，四爪蟒。官员配偶绣对应官级图样，麒麟，狮，豹，虎等等。这一件没有动物，称为“花补”，一般就是皇室后妃女眷用来彰显奢华但又不会因图样僭越。 这一件放大看团补，可以明显看到暗八仙图样，分别以八仙法器代指八仙，分别为蒲扇、葫芦、花篮、荷花、宝剑、竹笛、鱼鼓、玉板。你能找到每一个吗？另外配以八只蝙蝠纹，寓意八方来福，八仙送福（福、禄、寿、喜、财、子、健康、智慧）。是很有文化价值和寓意的一件高级花补。

[@corgeousgeorge]

So excited for the new season! Love buried treasure!

[@quansun7633]

So well-preserved.

[@rustylafrance356]

Who else saw it once and just chuckled every time she said it was Japanese? lol 😂

[@toraguchitoraguchi9154]

That's a museum worthy artefact.

[@ChaseYu]

People in the West ( or perhaps outside of Asia ) really needs to understand Sinosphere(😅), and to understand how many of China’s neighbor countries got something from ancient China.

[@slangoftheregions]

This is in extremely good condition

[@thomaschristopherwhite9043]

I'm not an expert and even I know it's Chinese. Ya'll never watched Shanghai Noon?

[@youtubecensors5419]

You're so smart.

[@aurumdream9693]

This overcoat was just an uniform for a government (not necessary court) officer in Chin Dynasty, on which different ranks command different embroidery patterns. This was tailor made overcoat all right, as matter of fact, all of the OUTfits at that time were made by tailor! Imperial seamstresses were only responsible for the cloths of empire and his family in royal court.

[@hediyin4952]

No this is a woman’s overcoat not an officer’s

[@aldenteh9412]

Chinese fashion is so underated that people always confuse Hanfu for Japanese or Korean traditional clothes. These 3 empires have very distinct designs that makes them unique, from the shape of the clothes down to the embroidered designs. Hanbok are often times plain and easily distinguishable because of its very few designs; Kimonos are easily identified by their one piece or 2 piece suits; Hanfu are always multilayered and full of embroidery and colours compared to both Korean and Japanese. Usually only female clothes have many embroidered designs and colours in Japanese fashion, while males are always plain looking which makes it more valuable. Korean is the same as Japanese, female have embroidery while male is just plain single colour for each garment. But Chinese on the other hand is different, male hanfu is full of patterns and designs, even if its a single colour. If you look closely you can see clouds patterns all across the robe, each design has its own meaning based on social status, mythology, folktales, or sceneries. Female Hanfu is always over 3 layers of robes with side accessories or small clothing.

[@phunk8607]

No one confuse this for anything except Chinese except for this chick.

[@pearlblack9753]

what u said about chinese hanfu is wrong, because I'm chinese.

[@AliasHSW]

Lately I’ve been wanting to a Chinese black silk jacket - “miin naap” (Cantonese phonetic) - like the one my dad had.

[@lngngng]

@@pearlblack9753 what's wrong about it?

[@70vintage58]

❤ BEAUTIFUL!!! I would have thought it would appraise for about $20,000.- $50,000.from age, detail and fabric...I GUESS THAT WHY I'M AT HOME ON THE COUCH!!! LOL! LOL!

[@enterpriseinfinite4900]

5-6k would be undervalued..

[@TheJayJayYoung]

That’s clearly a Manchurian coat, Chang Pao/Chang Shan worn by a noble. The Manchu are the minority ethnic group that rules over China during the Qing Dynasty, the last of the imperial dynasties in China, from year 1644 to 1911. The Manchurian traditional costume are commonly referred to as Qi Zhuang. The Chinese Qipao/Cheongsam actually originated from Chang Pao, hence the Chinese han ethnic group do not regard Qipao as Hanfu.

[@49wakaran]

so beautiful

[@chimmychen2314]

Time to know more about Asia,Miss.🌹

[@c-028]

想啊！很想啊！～

[@tazdecto]

I am sorry honey but apparently you don’t have your grandma eyes for this…she KNEW it Chinese 😂

[@laujimmy9282]

It's beautiful

[@Phlegethon]

Anyone want to venture a guess where this Japanese might’ve “purchased” it from

[@Hoo88846]

Stolen from China, just as they also stole the Chinese Tang Dynasty culture and appropriated it as “Japanese culture”. This proud Sinospheric copycat culture Japan that tries to discredit and culturally genocide China and take credit out of China, like the proud Lucifer tries to play God and blaspheming God as “devil”, flipping the truth upside down. Japan tries so hard to culturally appropriate everything from China as “Japanese”, and even ethnically cleanse China during the 2 Sino-Japanese Wars killing tens of millions of Chinese…..

[@kwokmingng4548]

during Japanese invasion

[@sirkeg1]

She should hope she doesn't live in Manhattan or LA where the local DAs will investigate stolen antiquities. Elsewhere in the country unlikely to be investigated. Sell to a Chinese buyer, they'll buy.

[@Noname-iz9uo]

As a Chinese person, I have never seen such a clothing that’s not in a museum glass case.

[@lisamcgee8535]

Her: "I think it's Japanese" Also Her: "I guess I have my grandma's eye for things"

[@faafafineartist]

It's incredible how, so many do little to ZERO research....and as an avid researcher myself, it literally doesn't take much effort to learn BASIC distinction between Asian cultures....also HISTORY of COSTUME isn't that difficult to find, not to mention the array of national museums out there to go to and see how distinctive Japanese and Chinese motif, style, etc., are from each other...and this lady did nothing.

[@slevinlindsay3624]

It's because way too many people take the mental shortcut and equate all Asian people as being Chinese. Even in 2025.

[@nikserof2183]

Japanese? The ignorance is astounding.

[@jessicaregina1956]

Thats fine, your all white guys to asians 😂

[@hatchetenthusiast5545]

If you pay attention to the amount of Chinese relics that were recovered in Japan, you should also recognize that these goods were stolen from the hands of the original owners during Japanese Imperialism.

[@koko4533]

Miss, as a Taiwanese, that's a Qing Dynasty outfit for official, then, from the pattern, people will know how high or low the rank of this official's status Also, in fact, this is for men, not for women.

[@lollebreuning4000]

I mean he dated it, acording to the colour used for the threads. What do we even ecpect?

[@koko4533]

@lollebreuning4000 oh, it's simply fine, I just want to provide some facts though 😀

[@Luisapon88]

Not Japanese but Chinese robe, definitely!!!!!!!

[@cloebloss]

How could she not even Google and see the difference between Japanese and Chinese clothing?😂

[@Wendy510]

How does anyone look at that and think it’s Japanese

[@jamesc6866]

@stevehansen7895 just like how your parents are siblings to one another.

[@LuciferSam2024]

@@jamesc6866, LMFAO! Good one!

[@geoffreycollings4678]

How can anyone be so far up themselves to make such a snobby comment.

[@Wendy510]

@@geoffreycollings4678 the Qing dynasty is recent enough that plenty of photographs (and videos) exist - just something as basic as seeing Cixi in a history book would have hinted at the origin of this garment

[@zanesmith666]

mate it was 50/50 japanese or chinese. unless ur a big nerd the average joe aint guna know

[@anneharton5013]

Then I wonder how this made its way to US.

[@lotusfired.2148]

Definitely one of the war robbery from the war in 1900 in Beijing, started by British, American, French, Italian, German, Japanese, and Russian military

[@s._3560]

Looted from China when the Qing dynasty fell. Sad.

[@olivegrove-gl3tw]

shady business

[@aarms304]

These comments are so mean and unfounded. She clearly loves and values her grandma’s possessions. Shame on you all.

[@TazziedoesWT]

As soon as I heard the accent, I immediately knew she was not going to say “chinese” even though its extremely obvious.

[@typicalKAMBlover21]

Mostly on the mark from the appraisal person but the bat symbolizes Chinese character for blessedness or lucky 福because bat in Chinese pronounces the same,or 蝠

[@TheBonbonny]

Well. To be fair most Japanese civilization was imported from China. The current Japanese or korean traditional clothing can all trace back to China. Its all reformation off what they learend from Chinese. So its not too crazy for her to misunderstood japnese with Chinese. After all it was all originated from different periods of China.

[@IzzyKawaiichi]

Not true. Well, not entirely true. Trade is a two-way street. Chinese culture-- food, fashion, etc.-- was influenced just as much by its neighbors as vice-versa.

[@fuethao8633]

Japanese clothing has since transformed into a unique style that can be differentiated at a glance now. Also this was Qing era clothing which Japan didn’t take influence from

[@jjbff-o5f]

Japan and Korea were historically influenced by Chinese (Han) culture. However, the Manchu people were regarded as barbarians by both the Han Chinese and the Korean people. When the Manchu established the Qing dynasty in China, they forced the Han population to adopt Manchu-style clothing and hairstyles. Korea, which had long been a vassal state of China and traditionally adopted official attire inspired by Chinese customs, refused to embrace the Manchu/Qing clothing style.

[@mollyfurball]

Other comments has good valid takes from a historical context. For me, I was just thinking more simply on a current time exposure viewpoint. I feel some people just don't have enough exposure to the different Asian cultures to be able to identify or are aware of the distinctions. So whatever she was exposed to in her surroundings is what she would assume certain Asian looking things as Japanese, bc that's what they know. Just like when I grew up in Asia (and I'm Asian), I went to an international school, I was with my Dutch friends playing at a playground, and local kids see my blond hair blue eyed friends, they immediately think "oh, American!" My Dutch friends were confused, why they assume foreigners (white foreigners) are American by default? That's bc during that time when there are not a lot of foreigners, kid's naive and limited outlook outside of their local society, most of what they know of the western world (esp. white western worlds) are from American pop culture. (And I know, "America" is not only USA, we got north, central, south, and a lot of different ethnicities, but for the sake of the discussion, it is termed this way, and simply, really, at the time, white people is synonymous to American, just think little kids... that's the world they know of only at the time from the hollywood movies and other western popular culture they know of that's foreign). Ok, that went on a tangent with that anecdote. Back to identifying the different Asian cultures. Exposure. Because I thought of something else. You'd think one might need to be an intellect to have learned about the differences among different Asian cultures. It just occurred to me... With so many avid Asian drama content consumers these days, especially those that watch a wide range of Asian dramas, like Korean dramas might be dominant now, but in the 80s, 90s, early 2000s, Japanese dramas were top (Koreans were growing their prominence with better quality/production), then the 90s/2000s was a surge of super high production Chinese historical dramas gaining international recognition. My point is, if I ask some non-Asian drama-head that watched a lot of historical Asian shows, they might actually be able to tell right away the style of clothing is Chinese, Japanese, or Korean. At the end of the day, I think it's simply what kinds of environment you had that get you what kinds of cultural exposure... I am American born, Asia raised. Had I not gone to an International school and know there are also European that "look like that," I might also assume any white person as "American." And this kinds of default assumption actually still exists today, but are now also more aware of other regions and countries. But not everyone can know the distinctions beyond outer appearance. Like for English speakers, we might be able to tell, oh, their accent is different, or that they are speaking French or Spanish or German or Russian, not English. But for people that can't identify by language, it's understandable that distinction is harder to make. That's what I thought of when the lady said "Japanese." Immediately of course was like "what?!"... then quickly, I'll think, ah, you haven't seen enough different kinds to know... Oh! Another funny anecdote! My niece is into kpop, so when in my car, I play some for her. She requested a song she liked at the time, and I played it. I listened and thought, wait, this doesn't sound Korean. It's a Japanese song! Hahaha... (Kpop idol groups, after debut in Korea, they also put out songs in Japanese, and these days, English, to get into US and Japanese markets, the 2 largest music market WW... And that kpop group she was listening to literally has 3 Japanese members.) I realized, in her generation (young teens now), she didn't have Japanese exposure like we did back in the days (and we are neither Japanese nor Korean). She recognizes Korean, but isn't actually "learning" per se, so her level isn't enough to realize she's hearing Japanese. Again, back to exposure, perhaps. But then another friend living in another area that has a lot of Japanese population, her kids have both Japanese and Korean friends and had more differ exposures bc the parents consumed contents in different languages. So her kids can tell Japanese vs Korean easily. Anyways, this topic and discussion just sparked my train of thought and intrigue while looking at pop culture these days vs my own upbringing surroundings. And here I am just ramblings on whatever came to mind. :-)

[@sklow84]

Ahh the classic denial, we do that inspiration from Central Asia, but for hundreds of years Japan essentially copied Chinese culture. ​@@IzzyKawaiichi

[@Ranchmountain]

The moment this woman says it’s Japanese. I have a feeling that this item is a loot, the way she acted like she’s the children of thieves. 😅 I think she knows her ancestors are thieves.

[@NyxtoX6]

Its just sad how a lot of Americans aren't taught stuff and info that's outside their country.

[@JC-qb1ir]

All she needed to do was to take a picture and do a google image search to know it was Chinese.

[@pinkpotatoes9849]

Bats are 'blessings'. It rhymes with Fu.

[@FireSilver25]

Her grandma may have had an overwhelming collection so I can kinda understand her confusing this for Japanese. But at least she’s preserving it now.

[@phunk8607]

Wow all the Chinese zombies 🧟‍♀️ fan just yelled at their phone.

[@biggusduckus6489]

Your government tells you China bad, you follow with no hesitation. The zombie here is you 😂

[@sirkeg1]

+1000 CIA credits

[@Kate-f1n]

Am I being way too... something... when I cringe that these appraisers don't wear protective gloves when handling these items?? The oils, etc from human hands can be pretty destructive to paper, fabric, certain metals... hoping someone will school me here🤷🏼‍♀️

[@ScaryElephants]

I work in a museum and cringe at the lack of gloves most of the time. Although not with paper because archivists don't use gloves for paper, just clean dry hands 😊

[@LuciferSam2024]

I am verklempt, as my Grandmother was the same way. And that is my true inheritance.

[@1990KatM]

amazing

[@derekpowersblight]

she basically asked was this gucci back in the day. I laughed

[@gratefuldeadly7899]

5000 seems low for such a nice dress, but it is not that old to begin with.

[@lollebreuning4000]

Still waiting for the Analysis of the actual pattern, aka the court rank or social status of the woman, since it "might have been worn to a birthday of the wive of a prince"

[@frankiechong3819]

Antiques roadshow should really check the provenance of these items before allowing it on the show. This robe clearly has dubious provenance and mostly likely has been stolen.

[@olivegrove-gl3tw]

bro, history happens and people steal stuff all the time, its not her fault its in her hands now

[@hkpfalldie]

4-6k only? Seriously?!

[@apopkafarmer]

this clothes remind me the horror movie I watched years ago. this is exactly what the zombie wore😮

[@Go4Broke247]

Think Zhonguo buying it back.

[@ColinSushiboy-lz4rg]

Lol one look I know it's from china. Cause I'm chinese

[@silvere36]

$5000 here, but $50,000 in their hands.

[@ROYCEJR.]

You can see, she didn't want the details or the history of it. She just want that money 😂

[@nihility.]

🤦

[@metsrus]

It's a fact money is universally enjoyed. While that piece of history would probably satiate only a tiny segment of the population, like history buffs.

[@LaLadybug2011]

She's a granddaughter of a wealthy grandmother. She's not wanting for anything.

[@thinkbeforyouvote]

I thought maybe grandma had passed but no, helpful grand daughter has "taken it upon herself" to catalog her 60 years of collecting since my gosh we have no idea what she has. What a money grubbing pariah.

[@jennynevins6329]

What a presumptuous comment

[@maolo76]

Not chinese... its manchu. China is a Civilization rule by different dynasty and ethnic group.

[@nurbsenvi]

I mean if you had TV at all it’s so easy to tell it’s not Japanese

[@lilong10]

I think what he said was incorrect. The eight symbols belong to “the Eight Immortals”, which are part of Dao, not the Buddhism. I understand its hard for a non Chinese to know that 😅

[@abmong]

Facepalm, I'm not Chinese, even I know that's not Japanese, it's Chinese Qing Dynasty robe. The circular motif suggests it belonged to an imperial concubine, as far as I'm aware only the imperial family were allowed to wear those circular motif dresses, but probably not a high ranking concubine since no dragon, phoenix or other animal design on the front. But looking at how new it looks it's probably not an antique, probably a reproduction of some kind. If it's an original it could be one of those diplomatic gift dresses, never worn. A friend of mine has a yellow imperial robe framed in his house, I won't same who he is, but he's high ranking European nobility, I think he said it was gifted to his great grandfather.

[@wendic2547]

I don’t think her grandmother knows where it’s from let alone the granddaughter. It is Chinese bc Japanese does not use that kind of design.

[@Naksu..]

I would buy that from her 20K..

[@alexc6324]

I would pay a lot more than 5000 for that.

[@loongsout]

Jiangshi movie Jackie Chen

[@vladimirchiang4233]

As a Chinese it's not really pleasant seeing that coat, as it reminds us how the manchu empire oppressed the Han Chinese people.

[@madnessintomagic]

“Japanese” 🙄… My god. I despair for humanity. Yikes

[@youtubecensors5419]

You think this is bad? We have people telling children they can change their sex. We truly are done. 🤷🏿

[@madnessintomagic]

@ omg. Get off FAUX entertainment “news” and read a book, please. 🙄 You people need to stop trying to engage in conversations where you’re outclassed (literally and figuratively) by light years. You’re just announcing to the world how ignorant you CHOOSE to be. ffs

[@madnessintomagic]

@@youtubecensors5419 ? These aren’t even remotely the same, but sure.

[@wewenang5167]

OMG as soon as i saw it i know it s Chinese Manchu robes. IM NOT EVEN CHINESE AND KNEW IT JUST FROM POP CULTURE AND CHINESE MOVIES. How can you confused it with Japanese robes...Japanese do not even have robes but KIMONO! xD

[@LightningFoxGame]

Omg this actually worth easily over million us dollars if it is auctioned in Hong Kong or China. Why didn’t she take it to China or proper auction place and instead getting ripped off?

[@dancingmeerkat2078]

Goodness, the trolls are out early with this one.

[@frankiechong3819]

Goodness, the western thieves are out early with this one.

[@youtubecensors5419]

Lol, China has CERTAINLY never stolen a thing... 🤣

[@jacobl5488]

so insulting, stole our stuff then call it Japanese. I'm dead 💀💀

[@andrewfyip]

A simple google search would make you not look like an idiot.

[@RayFliesAway]

It looks haunted

[@ReapTheWhirlwind]

A real weeb would know this isn't Japanese. 😂 If the cut of the garment doesn't tip you off the style of embroidery should.