Seat Concepts Comfort XL Low vs Regular XL On The Honda CRF450L

[@bobsmyth6706]

Hi John, so sorry for the tone of my last comments. A little too much Covid isolation. Enjoying your review of seat concepts products because I'm looking for something for my new bike. Cheers

[@JohnTYoung]

No worries! I think you'l like the Seat Concepts seat, though there are other options out there if you need an even wider seat. Thanks for your continued support Bob.

[@raymadani270]

Thanks heaps, John. you gave me all that I needed to know in a short video

[@JohnTYoung]

You're very welcome!

[@Chiefhd63]

I love you man! Always great videos. I've had my CRF with the Comfort XL since '19. I'm 5'10" and got into some tough situations with rocks and washouts this week in WV. Started thinking about lowering the bike. Bam! JTY has a video.

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks Greg!

[@xjoshsaucex]

Big brother is always watching.. even listening..to your thoughts

[@billbrandt1106]

I'm so glad you did this comparison - I've been trying to decide which one to get.

[@JohnTYoung]

I knew you wanted to know. 😃

[@scottangell8]

Have you noticed a comfort difference on say a 8 hr ride ?

[@JohnTYoung]

The regular thickness is more comfortable than the extra low thickness. But either one or light years ahead of the stocks seat.

[@kellenoldham8072]

@@JohnTYoungso the regular thickness vs the low, is noticeable, correct? I like the idea of the low, just don’t want to sacrifice padding/comfort. Thank you!

[@JohnTYoung]

@@kellenoldham8072 It is noticeable, yes.

[@travismoore5398]

John, thanks for the video. Are you happy with the comfort of the "low" seat. I've been thinking about getting one.

[@JohnTYoung]

I am. It's definitely lower and you can feel it. It's not as squishy tho.

[@brockjohnson4116]

@@JohnTYoung If you were to have one only, which would you have ?

[@JohnTYoung]

@@brockjohnson4116 I've had the Low on now for a few years so....

[@Mostviews111]

I ordered the low they only had the black though I wanted the red like yours but I wasn't willing to wait for it to come back in stock

[@JohnTYoung]

Nice! I hope you like it.

[@bizzfo]

I don’t think there is an “Comfort XL Low” offering from SC? All they have is the “Comfort Low”.

[@JohnTYoung]

When you select your color and material options on the XL, look for the low option in the drop down.

[@jonoj7666]

Keen to hear what you think long term about the compromise in comfort for better hight... 🤔👍

[@JohnTYoung]

My bum will give you report in a few weeks.

[@jonoj7666]

@@JohnTYoung Nice, butt dont disappoint me with a review of hotair 🔥💨... it better be a ripper that goes the distance n doesn't gassout 💨 all the details, every crack n crevice outlined on the good the bad and the ugly. dont let this review slip cause if it stinks we wont be happy... something revealing, n cheeky butt dont be an arse 😅😜 lol Your bum has alot to live upto 🤔 I just hope it can handle the pressure 😅

[@JohnTYoung]

@@jonoj7666 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@johnny7121]

where are these bikes made?

[@JohnTYoung]

A quick internet search says Japan.

[@johnny7121]

@@JohnTYoung some dealers state that the new models are made in taiwan, so that's why I was asking

[@JohnTYoung]

@@johnny7121 Interesting. I had not heard that.

[@johnny7121]

@@JohnTYoung I don't believe them, that's why I am asking

[@JohnTYoung]

@@johnny7121 I truly appreciate your trust in me, but I don't know, nor have I heard, that Honda has moved the manufacture to somewhere else. I hope they haven't.

[@wdmore]

Thanks for the video. I was wondering about the comfort level of the low seat? Is it still worth the investment over the regular height seat as far as comfort goes?

[@JohnTYoung]

So far, yes. But I have not taken a LONG ride on it yet. End of this month is the AZBDR so we'll see. Thanks for watching.

[@tyrelthibault5264]

An update on this?

[@ColinPopoviciu]

@@JohnTYoung any updates on this seat?

[@JohnTYoung]

@@ColinPopoviciu it is as tough and bulletproof as the regular one, but it is a bit harder.

[@isgrimner]

@@JohnTYoung Thanks for taking on the expense of both seats and giving feedback. I'm same height as you and have put a deposit down on a 22 450RL that I should pick up within a week. I knew I was going to get the comfort XL or the comfort low for the bike, but wasn't sure if the low would have the same comfort. I've owned CR250s where I basically ttip toe on it with both feet and I sat on the regular race 450 while at dealer and it was basically the same tip toe for both feet down.

[@user-xv2ec3bz3s]

I cant find the xl low only the comfort low

[@JohnTYoung]

It's in the drop down lists.

[@garydoyle5755]

Thanks for the video I'm 5'8" and am considering buying a CRF450L. Also I would probably get Soupy's lowering links and do something with the fork.

[@JohnTYoung]

Sounds like a good plan!

[@patrickmwandawa9978]

Nice motorcycle and I like Honda, but how can I get the machine like that, am in Africa in Kenya. I love your job so much great work

[@JohnTYoung]

Hi Patrick. I have no idea how you can, but I do know that you should! If you have a steady stream of fuel and engine oil that is. Thanks for watching!

[@ridered7394]

Is the low one as comfortable as the tall one?

[@JohnTYoung]

Not quite, but still way more comfy than the stock one.

[@balanphotographer]

Hi, which option do you like more, "Gripper" top or "Low slip" top?

[@JohnTYoung]

Gripper!

[@Trickhorn]

I really enjoy the seat comfort on my Rally.

[@JohnTYoung]

It’s comfy and lasts forever!

[@william6815]

I’ve got a 450L haven’t done one mod to it yet love it just put 1000KM on it what would you recommend to be the must have mods the seat came to mind as the stock one is uncomfortable but I can live with it 😂

[@JohnTYoung]

Vortex ECU is the one thing I wish all CRF450Ls came with stock.

[@TyScott85]

Have you sold the standard height seat?

[@JohnTYoung]

I did.

[@billyarsenault1970]

Hey JY. Hope your all good out there. Is the higher seat all cushion or same amount of cushion and just hollow and higher. Have a great one.

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks, Billy. It's got a little less cushion and is a little less comfy.

[@nicholasbergeron8660]

Did you have a hard time making the frame protectors fit? Thanks

[@JohnTYoung]

Not at all. Trauma shears and some patiences is all it took.

[@nicholasbergeron8660]

@@JohnTYoung Thanks! Do you happen to know where you got them?

[@JohnTYoung]

Sorry, I don't. I barely remember what I had for breakfast.

[@neilconfesor9845]

Is the bike small for a 6'3 guy? Looking forward to getting one.

[@JohnTYoung]

Well, it's big for a guy who's 5-9 so.......

[@Spectrus_operator]

looks a good investment

[@JohnTYoung]

I've really enjoyed mine this past year.

[@adaltonascimento2995]

John, where do you personally order the seats from? I’m down in Denver, got the 450L recently.

[@JohnTYoung]

I got mine directly from Seat Concepts.

[@aaronfleischer6852]

Can you sell me the old seat?

[@JohnTYoung]

Long long gone my friend.

[@kodiwickum3963]

Would you sell the old seat?

[@JohnTYoung]

Already sold. I do have the original stock seat....

[@kodiwickum3963]

John T. Young that’s okay I have the stock seat got the bike in may love it so far I want the xl seat but there is no place up here in Canada that I can find that sells it lol

[@bobclapper2672]

Is it less comfortable than the regular ?

[@JohnTYoung]

Just a little

[@chris4853]

Is the XL low just as comfortable as the XL?

[@JohnTYoung]

My butt says, "No". It's a little thinner in the padding department and after 200 miles you will notice it.

[@chris4853]

@@JohnTYoung That’s what I was afraid of, do you think you’ll just go back to the XL? I was also wondering what you do for oil changes when your out o a week long trip if you have to change it every 600 miles?

[@JohnTYoung]

@@chris4853 No. It's not that bad. I like the Low well enough. As for oil, I've got an oil change video out there somewhere. I think if you watch one of the "Packing for a BDR" videos I explain my system. It works whether I''m on a BDR or in my driveway.

[@Shaymer705Racing]

I have same seat. So less foam, bit stiffer I’d assume, let me know. I’m same 5’9, 32 inseam. Feet same on ground. I’m more flat footed with my boots as opposed to runners. My bike sits a tad lower with more sag and a softer spring. I’m. Way lighter than you. Thanks for the review

[@JohnTYoung]

Way light than me. So you’re calling me fat?

[@Shaymer705Racing]

John T. Young unless your 115 soaking wet. Then ya. Lol. Bike don’t even know I’m on it. 😜

[@YellowfinCoachMatt]

how tall are you? inseam?

[@JohnTYoung]

509, 32". My favorite color is red and I'm a Virgo. Anything else?!?

[@facatube]

Hi I have one on my wr250r and I'm happy but I'd like more gripnest anyway I see you bigger man are you training😁

[@JohnTYoung]

LOL. I am. I was a firefighter and mountain guide and was in pretty good shape. Then I got a desk-ish job and got FAT. Trying to undo the damage.

[@grandmaster1876]

But is it as comfortable?

[@JohnTYoung]

Not yet. Maybe my butt needs more time to break it in.

[@moorey8598]

John... you’re looking huge! Are you a fireman or something? You’d be able to throw that bike around no worries!

[@JohnTYoung]

Ex, or something. LOL. Planning on a lot of rough roads and as badly as I ride I have to throw my bike around. :(

[@SurRon_OffRoad]

you can get another inch john by useing the ZETA ADJUSTABLE RSL LINKAGE LOWERING KIT......sry about the caps i copied and past it.....👍

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks D Wrb. I've thought about lowering 911 bike a touch more, but I really like all of my suspension travel. Maybe I'll change my mind next time I tip over again.

[@SurRon_OffRoad]

@@JohnTYoung yep i understand👍...bare in mind that its fully ajustable tho ...all the bast mate top vids as allways

[@JohnTYoung]

@@SurRon_OffRoad True! It looks like a really good design and everything else Zeta I have is quality.

[@SurRon_OffRoad]

@@JohnTYoung yes zeta is deffo no1..👍👍

[@plt4415]

There is nothing like seating high on a motorcycle and a lowering kit is a waste of money for my opinion. But sure everyone of us has different needs, have it well and use it in nice rides I wish...)

[@JohnTYoung]

Being able to touch the ground, in my opinion, is a need. You have some great rides too!

[@jaypuck6912]

@@JohnTYoung Agreed. I loved my 2004 KTM 625 SXC and it had more torque than a New Holland T7. Umm, not really. Anyway, all the torque in that bike was for not when it was so heavy and tall. Funny John said the Honda is fairly tall. I thought the KTM's 39 inch seat height was "tall." Short story too long, John's right. If you are going to do any real off-road riding like we do in Colorado, you need your feet down. If all you do is a forest service road that's recently been smoothed out and you call that off-road, ...

[@JohnTYoung]

@@jaypuck6912 39 inches is not tall, it's stratospheric!

[@jeffkise6504]

RAD Bike!

[@JohnTYoung]

Thank you!

[@kenthill4124]

Love your videos John! Does the new XL Low seat have the no slip top versus the gripper top on the old XL? If so, which do you prefer? Thanks!

[@JohnTYoung]

The one I got has a slightly less grippy top than the original one, but I don't honestly notice much of a difference.

[@SlimDaPyro]

5ft 9in with a 32 inseam.......me too welp gotta subscribe now

[@JohnTYoung]

Yes you do. LOL.

[@jonoj7666]

😎👌👍

[@JohnTYoung]

LOL. :)

[@jaypuck6912]

I can't and won't ever comment on the low as I'm 6 ft tall, but I can say to all those reading the Seat Concepts XL Seat is absolutely the first upgrade anyone should do to this bike. If you only do a single upgrade, do the seat with the Seat Concepts XL.

[@JohnTYoung]

It was one of the very first things I did to my bike for sure. Thanks Colorado 450L.

[@ohnoy2k]

I'm 6ft tall as well but with a 32 inch inseam like John. This bike makes me feel short!