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[@autogefuehl]

Seat Leon Cupra Facelift full review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHzOgoOulq6pnLs

[@dickturpin4786]

Thanks for a great in-depth review. I read somewhere that the armrest is also height adjustable, is that correct as I can't see anything on it's design to have that facility? I've had a test drive on the FR 2.0 tsi and found the armrest to be a little low for me. I'd much appreciate your advice. Thanks.

[@leeoliver391]

When I first saw AJ do a review I wasn't so sure that I'd like him. But I have to say that his confidence has grown hugely in a short period of time! I like how he has his own personal intro line "Are you interested? Come on.......Let's Go!". It's like a signature and adds personality. Well done AJ and keep up the great work! Assuming Thomas is your mentor, you are learning from one of the best :-)

[@autogefuehl]

thanks m8 =)

[@wobblybob6449]

Thanks AJ. I've got my new Leon arriving in a few weeks and this review has been really helpful to show my family (who weren't around for the test drive) what they can expect. First class job.

[@autogefuehl]

+Rob Denholm thanks!!

[@DIYBFF123]

The design of the Leon is almost perfect, even after 10 years, well Done Seat!!!

[@MrEngland92]

Amazing review on a beautiful car! This hatch is so underrated!!! I love it

[@autogefuehl]

thanks bro !

[@rudedog1974]

Cracking review, mine is due for delivery any day, cant wait

[@caraddicted6794]

The design of the Seat Leon looks still very sharp and dynamic!! Great technical updates !! Really looking forward to the new CUPRA ST with 300hp and 4wd !!!! :) But I really appreciate the FR version. Another great episode of Autogefühl :))

[@autogefuehl]

thanks bro !

[@jimgibney7603]

car addicted "?.

[@asevado]

14:01 this interior lighting system is the more importat thing in this car. you said it has no practical use... you're DEAD WRONG! Let me explain.... You're dating a new girl, you go to a decent restaurant and drink a little wine... The evening is about to end, you go back to the parking, but before moving you show her this lighting system with the changing colours... This is the signal. It says: "ok girl, this is the right moment to blow me". Believe me: it works. 100% guaranteed.

[@quentinskateboarding]

😂😂😂

[@JJWilliams-uk3rf]

Currently actually owning a ST version 2016 I have to say as a previous audi A3 owner I love my Seat. A lot of thought has gone into the newer models but not too sure about the new grill

[@raymondrichards992]

I've got the seat Leon FR 1.4 2017 67plate I've had it two weeks now and I'm pleased with everything with the car

[@franonti]

great review, good job!

[@autogefuehl]

appreciated !

[@MrKieranps1990]

The best review I have seen, Very very good

[@autogefuehl]

thanks keep following !

[@cbcdesign001]

I have had a Leon for nearly three years. At no stage have I ever found the fuel gauge remotely confusing. The gauge on this face lift Leon is more or less identical to my 2015 Leon. I don't know how different the steering is, I certainly have no complaints on mine though.

[@paulb8153]

Excellent review. Told me everything I needed to know. Thanks AJ

[@autogefuehl]

thanks paul !

[@krissihey5100]

Thanks for the review I think this really helped me with my decision. Leon SC FR 1.8 TSI with automatic 👌🏻

[@autogefuehl]

thanks and enjoy :)

[@thomaspetersen5823]

Love your reviews AJ! So joyful and relaxing to watch 👍🏼

[@autogefuehl]

love to hear that!

[@InteriorDesignAnderson]

I love your review style AJ so layer back and chill ✌🏻️😎😏

[@autogefuehl]

way to go !

[@svetlinnikolov8710]

good job!Don't mind the kids...it's good to have different reviewers

[@adidicea]

thanks for the review and honesty.

[@autogefuehl]

appreciated!

[@deputydd4364]

Nice detailed review AJ. Though I'm concerned you found the fuel gauge confusing, is it really??!! - the last thing we want is SEAT to stop doing cool gauges because some popular KZbin reporter says it was confusing!!

[@AndrewKNI]

Another thorough review. Thank you AJ.

[@autogefuehl]

appreciated!

[@Carlos_Verhaak]

Nice review!

[@autogefuehl]

thx carlos!

[@66lesjo]

Great review. I’m ordering the 1.8 tsi auto, 5 door , tomorrow. Can’t wait for delivery. Keep up the good work.

[@autogefuehl]

😊 enjoy!

[@66lesjo]

Autogefühl Thank you. I appreciate it.

[@kickinkezzar10]

Just ordered my new facelift fr tsi delivering to me for june cannot wait!

[@breakingbad5467]

Tonald Drump how was it?, does it keep its price(value)?

[@mieszkooracz7370]

Very well done review. It's nice to watch :)

[@autogefuehl]

thanks !

[@chrisso4]

I really enjoyed your review and am considering buying a Leon FR now! The title is very off-putting as I was sceptical whether the review would be in English!

[@autogefuehl]

Thx enjoy !

[@ulastosun9806]

Thank you for allll of these valuable information

[@autogefuehl]

appreciated!

[@hectorcisco]

Pretty good reviews man, i just suscribed to your channel

[@autogefuehl]

great to have you with us! :)

[@redox77200]

Great review !! Even if it lacks the "sportiness" that is expected with such a sporty and powerful car. Wanted to see it behave on twisty roads, not in an industrial zone.

[@autogefuehl]

Next year we'll test the Cupra 300 hp and we'll show you more performance

[@pcjtech]

Excellent review, I will be ordering mine in the new year and can't wait to drive it. It will be the 1.4 tsi dsg ST for me.

[@autogefuehl]

+Philip Jones nice!

[@caraddicted6794]

The 1.4TSI is the best choice !! Congratulation

[@whiteshark191]

Philip Jones I ordered mine 2 weeks ago. 😍 The 1.4 TSI but only the small one with 125 hp.

[@Chrismalkinuk]

My 2016 Leon has led door lights! It wasn't carried over from the ateca at all, it's been on the Leon since 2013!! And it's available in 6speed manual and 7speed dsg (not 5speed manual like u said)

[@arqtearquitectos1213]

Great review!!!

[@autogefuehl]

thanks and join more of our reviews!

[@leonardclarke3930]

Had this the 1.8 tsi in the fr spec for 3 years and loved it. The car never gave me an ounce of trouble. I'll wait until week 16 in 2017 for the Seats version of the virtual cockpit to become available.

[@autogefuehl]

thanks for the feedback !

[@pinlock4331]

It is confirmed info?

[@iScoTT29]

What colour would you choose AJ, do you like the new red colour?

[@dag1704]

The steering wheel problem is very interesting. I just bought the 2020 fr st version and the steering is excelent. I had exactly the opposite effect, that the steering is very crisp and does not feel artificial at all. Maybe Seat listened to your review :D

[@bestofblocket]

Hey Thomas! Did you or your team go to Barcelona today to review the Cupra 300? Looking forward for a video :)

[@autogefuehl]

hey, we ll do that this week :)

[@MrDokhal]

Very good video !

[@johnnyxp64]

Damn my leon cupra 290 was build that week in the factory and i want now the cupra 300 facelift because i love the new front bumper :/ i wonder if the facelift leon cupra 300 that will be announced February 2017 will have a bumper that can fit my 290 that will arrive next Month

[@ThePixelize]

18:00 It's a six speed manual, actually.

[@ktg6548]

Epic review good job !

[@autogefuehl]

+K T G Games ✌️✌️

[@ktg6548]

Autogefühl 😄

[@AymanFattah100]

great review dude, a little question, is panoramic sunroof available on this Leon you reviewed ?

[@autogefuehl]

thanks! ye it is

[@felixianto]

Thank you, very good review

[@autogefuehl]

+felixianto 🎬🎬🎬

[@AireDeZapatos]

hope we'll see a review in germany too on autobahn and landstraße and a comment on the head space in the front for people with around 1.85 m

[@tomphillips8449]

Picking up my 1.8 fr tomorrow great review 😊

[@autogefuehl]

Cool enjoy 😊

[@tomphillips8449]

@@autogefuehl thanks

[@jameswilcox8519]

The 3 door Leon has the same sized boot as the 5 door Leon (and the VW Golf in fact).

[@kickinkezzar10]

does all this tech come with a standard fr model or are there additional add ons?

[@iosucrack]

Hi there!! Such a nice review, great job! I have a question regarding to the interior loudness when driving in the highway. Would you say that the noise is much better isolated than in the new Seat Ibiza 1.5 TSI?

[@autogefuehl]

thanks! The Leon is more silent than the Ibiza yes, but no wonder

[@laurenceclarke4366]

Good review.drive the 2014 184bhp fr and I love it.plenty of power and economy.is very good.

[@autogefuehl]

+Laurence Clarke :)

[@TommyTenchReturns]

Hi I'm wondering if the Leon comes with the ambient lighting as standard as I can't find any info

[@Johnd3s]

Good review

[@autogefuehl]

thanks John !

[@phoenyfeifei]

We want Full HD, Full Screen, Full length and Thomas lets go

[@iancafc123]

great job

[@12345DJay]

got the 1.4 TSI manual and i love it. looks great outside and inside, feels great on the road, it handles smooth even at high speeds and it's nice and quiet as well. it's a blast to drive and i can only recommend it.

[@marco1173]

I prefer the side mirrors that come out of the door rather than the window. Gives the car a sportier appearance, IMO.

[@pinlock4331]

On poor quality roads with 18" and Comfort mode in DCC comfort in on satisfactory level? What with noise level - you think that is better from model before lifting?

[@phoenix101192]

hi how do you turn on the led flashing light ihave leon fr 2017 and it doesn have it?

[@user-vn2lu4un2y]

Great car,will it launch in India?i am waiting to buy one.

[@biristanbul3911]

congrats bro nice video thnx from turkeyy :)) im w8ing 1.4 tsi 150hp

[@autogefuehl]

thx!

[@1979SFC]

you can changes the steering response in the mode menu.

[@gonnafly888]

kind of worried of what i heard in the film about the steering wheel. AJ- didnt you use different modes?

[@NAKMUAYACADEMY]

Very curious which one all round is better Leon / Ibiza / VW polo?

[@tomlyth739]

Just got the Leon exellence 2lt of diesel very nice car .

[@jazzip2989]

nice machine, vw is doing well with this brand

[@S7StudioElfPaladin]

Not all info seems correct... for ex. The Full Link existed already on the prev Leon but was just added after 2012 release. Interior lighting already existed in prev ... only red & white were available though (and only for FR trim i believe?)... But indeed, the GPS system still feels very cluncky for a 2017 car :-/. Good review overal!! :)

[@MrHitman246]

Thomas dont leave us S2

[@itayr4827]

should have done a sporty driving part, other than that great review!

[@Fn0rD.]

hi ! about the 1.6 tdi... what is the mechanical difference of "new" 1.6tdi 115cv and the "old" 1.6tdi 110cv? or the difference is only a software update of the ECU map? Thank you !

[@donreflexink100]

+1

[@Alven_nevla]

Great review !. Can anyone advise or provide feedback on how the 1.4 TSI 125 hp is ? I'm looking to order with this engine but not found one to test drive. Does it feel sufficiently powerful ? How does it compare to the 1.4 TSI 150 bhp ?? Thanks.

[@autogefuehl]

thanks! Depends on your driving profile. Of course you cant expect much power on high speed motorway runs, but for calm driving and city driving its perfectly fine

[@dochi24111]

Excellent review but.. where is Thomas? :(

[@autogefuehl]

here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoXLo4p4jKmYrNE

[@tristanyoung1247]

I love My seat leon 1,2 tsi.

[@martinnovak9084]

Thanks to autogefuhl i bought a new car. In my list were cars such as Astra, Focus, Octavia and Leon. Astra was first out....i missed paddles for shifting and also some other minor problems to me. Really hard decision for me came then. Octavia vs Leon with 1.8 TSI and DSG....both had the same price for me, although price list of Škoda is put in higher levels. Škoda has more room, more practical small hideouts in interior and electric opening for trunk. Thats it.....no charisma, no sexepeal and if u want good level of equipment u have to pay extra. So i picked Seat Leon ST 1.8 DSG in beautifull Desire Red and this black wheels. It is expensive but the best visual configuration for this car. Again thanks to autogefuehl i could chose that sporty beautifull red color....you showed it sooner, then it can be seen in Czech republic. Only con i found in Leon (and i really hoped AJ is not right there) is no responce in wheel....Really shame in sporty tuned estate. 1.8 is flawless, silent and very lively over 4000 RPM, DSG great as ever, but i dont know what is happening under my wheels even in sport mode (i have adaptive chassis). Keep going Thomas and your team.

[@autogefuehl]

thanks and enjoy m8 !

[@sashaadriaensen8171]

picking up my leon tommorow ;)

[@autogefuehl]

enjoy! :)

[@ACS607]

AJ, you said the steering wheel feels too light but it's meant to be light at slow speeds to make it easier to manoeuvre around towns and cities and then it weights up and becomes more direct at higher speed. I saw on the review that you used local roads therefore i'm sure you didn't get to experience the steering qualities at high speed.

[@autogefuehl]

yeah indeed always has 2 sides of it

[@mickvd4]

I'm in love

[@StephenButlerOne]

I've just ordered the ST FR tsi DSG, 5 month lead time. 2 months in! Can't wait. I like the 3 door and the estate. The 5 door hatchs I don't like.

[@autogefuehl]

Congrats!

[@StephenButlerOne]

@@autogefuehl boheme purple. Looks great. But given I already own an opel gtc in emerald green (also love), I know I'm going to hate it also. Because the deep dark metallic colours you just can't keep clean. But oh boy do they look good when polished and waxed.

[@XATAGE0779]

OMFG, this car looks so gorgeous! I'd rather buy a Seat than a VW, almost the same, but different. I like the Seat's cockpit and dashboard a lot more, for example. Seats are NOT boring cars for me.

[@altern8ive]

if they haven't eliminated the 5F's creaky and squeaky interior no amount of exterior fluffing will compensate

[@DavidH007]

Otherwise very good review, but there is also a 6-speed manual option.

[@Dr23rippa]

So is this a Seat or Volkswagen? Like the SKoda...

[@MJGorin]

Waiting for mine next week :) fr 1.4 150hp

[@autogefuehl]

+MJ enjoy!

[@musicselecta5554]

Rear spoiler???? Where are gou???

[@user-xf2ht4oo1r]

my dream car. point.

[@Wesamfaris1233]

Why doesn't my Leon 2018 fr+ have heated seats?

[@wandaxDesign]

Is it normal for the check engine light to be on while the ignition is turned on. Looks like a pending engine code to me.

[@autogefuehl]

check our Skoda Kodiaq driving part video for the explanation :)

[@jwester7009]

So for pure driving would you recommend this Seat Leon FR or the (2018) VW Polo GTI ?

[@autogefuehl]

Compare it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5yaqKGva7aLhJI

[@samers6296]

You haven't mentioned dimensions bro

[@WWETheDeadManDTF]

do you get the Color Display in the instrumentcluster with the 8" navigationssystem only? What do you get with the 6,5" Media System? Color or monochrome?

[@autogefuehl]

monochrome afaik.

[@WWETheDeadManDTF]

and in the facelift with the 8" Media System plus? it's quite weird. sometimes the configurator says 8" Media System plus in the Style and 6,5" Media System plus in the xcellence, wich doesnt make much sense to me...

[@WWETheDeadManDTF]

even my local dealer couldnt answer me if the xcellence has 6,5"or 8" media system.

[@autogefuehl]

did you check the price list ? The pdf is often more exact

[@WWETheDeadManDTF]

Autogefühl I just asked Seat Germany. They told me with the facelift there are only 2 Display sizes. the 5" optional System for the Reference and serial System for the Style, aswell as the 8" Media System plus. They couldnt give me exact Information on the Display in the instrumentcluster but they believe it to be monochrome in Reference only. with xcellence you get the DOT-Matrix with and without Navigation.

[@seb.]

thank you so much! wasn't aware of the new GPS downsides definitely a bummer. no word about night driving, are the new headlight really better? are they matrix-like...

[@mathewnicholls5881]

what gps downsides ? just bought one of these comes in April.

[@seb.]

Did you watch the video? it's at 11:22 - basically you can't zoom in/out easily because it isn't a capacitive touchscreen (but a resistive cheaper panel)

[@mathewnicholls5881]

Oh yeah I saw that i thought you meant their were issues with it that I wasn't aware of. I can live with that.

[@seb.]

Of course, I'd definitely trade my Golf 7 with the non-AndroidAuto GPS for a Leon Cupra AWD

[@macb.631]

and only TMC (TMC Pro). No Live Traffic

[@elchangolocodelmal]

AJ, what do you prefer, this one, or Mazda 3 2017 ?

[@autogefuehl]

Mazda 3 vs leon? I say leon. (AJ)

[@elchangolocodelmal]

Autogefühl why, something in particular?thank you, amazing review.

[@Remix1385]

Interesting question. I recently test drove a Mazda 3 2017 (the 120hp version because unfortunately no 165hp was available for test as most of French drivers are afraid of everthing above 150hp...), very nice car to drive I must say. But I think I will try to test this Leon as an alternative (Probably can forget about testing the 180hp, but I have hope for a 140hp at least), the Leon FR is less fancy/original but has overall better performances. Prices are comparable (about 27k€), I wonder how much discount we can have on these cars.

[@MsSashbar]

Mazda 3 has one huge advantage - a reliable and durable petrol engine, with TSI you never know, it is a lottery after 60 000 miles.

[@elcurruncho]

Do you have a picture of the default upholstery of FR version?

[@autogefuehl]

+elcurruncho should be in the official prospectus - its nice

[@elcurruncho]

Yes! In the .com website there is a picture of each upholstery, and it's a bit red, specially in the panels of the doors :(, I prefer the actual one www.seat.com/content/com/website/en/carworlds/new-leon-5d/design/vehicle-color-interior/cloth-techny-black-sport/_jcr_content.resizeViewPort.noScale.fileReferenceEng.jpg

[@autogefuehl]

looks nice!

[@PatoSharapova]

Which engine would you recommend? 1.4 TSI - 150hp, or 1.8?

[@autogefuehl]

both will do fine ..

[@freshplatte]

how is the dsg ? i heard some cars are not so good like audi or bmw because the transmission is not so good.

[@autogefuehl]

the DSG is great to drive, we had that in many many reviews

[@freshplatte]

i just saw this video thx for the answer!

[@steffendman9477]

Hey, what about blind spot detection? Does it have it?

[@autogefuehl]

sadly not

[@Reamees1]

I have driven cupra ST 4wd. Price is good, i just doesn´t understand why dashboard needs to be soft if door panels and places what you are touching daily are hard plastic? Interior is fail, price is right. (Sorry for my bad language)

[@HB45175]

It's like a Golf, only not ugly.

[@angelo90beverly]

What's the color? Emotion red or desire red?

[@sebravo1444]

desire red

[@Edupion]

does it have park assist? and parks automaticlly

[@WWETheDeadManDTF]

PION ED it doesnt.

[@reddpanda7343]

Why is it soooo hard to find a SEAT dealer here in the states? I even looked in the yellow pages, nothing? Whatzup?

[@autogefuehl]

they dont sell in the US yet...

[@everythingtechnew7400]

Clean the dial cluster!!! OCD! 🚀

[@udiatar]

Does any one have some experience with the DSG7 gear on the new Leon? Is it still problematic as before or has VW been able to get rid of the issues?

[@zenithred9731]

Looks great and drives better but the estate version in FR trim looks even better in my opinion. And those seats display real (basic) leather on seating surface btw.

[@autogefuehl]

+Zenith Red yes thats right. Good that they have good alternatives

[@hellbillyaustin6883]

I can agree with that, i ordered an st, but a cupra!, and im fed up with the wait!, they're behind on building for once!!, its been set back twice, if i get another call from the dealer, informing of another month to wait......his ears will burst into flames!!, can't wait to get it. Great review matey. All the best.