Sebchoof Reacts to "Worst MMO Ever? - Realm of the Mad God"

[@yanhuideng8263]

SAD fact: the original tutorial had a “nexus explanation.” Which explained everything MUCH BETTER than the current one does. DECA removed it along with the rest of their “improvements.”

[@justaniceview9497]

It also explained how to buy realm gold and keys

[@paulosolf1]

*sad fact

[@yanhuideng8263]

@@paulosolf1 You’re right, it is pretty sad. Dunno why DECA ruined the original tutorial… At least they explain rotation.

[@ROTMGmimighster]

Interesting that he completely missed pets. Maybe the tutorial should reward a soulbound humanoid egg near the end. And then actually show you around the vault/pet yard.

[@kapharjr]

Exactly, the game really needs some pet guide... I wasted a lot of time getting a humanoid heal, magic heal, electric pet then I screwed it up cuz I didn't know you had to level up the pets you're fusing it with as well...

[@b4tskun]

I feel like to really start realm as a new player, you need someone to guide you through the start. For example the settings need to be changed to even be able to enjoy the game. And then gear and dungeon progression.

[@TimmMix]

True

[@xenofrost0432]

True, I was blessed to start on Kongregate with the chat to assist me and being able to find ppl through there

[@kapharjr]

I don't think it's that tough actually... I started playing Realm about a month ago and I think it's been okay so far. Wiki has been a close friend of mine during this time. Of course, I haven't been able to progress very much though as I die often, usually at 300-500 Fame, only a few stats maxed but these are just skill issues and I don't think someone else can help with this amirite?

[@nonsense3586]

I love JoshStrife. He criticized a lot of MMORPG that I played like Digimon masters, warframe, rotmg, etc. He is kinda being "captain obvious" in his videos. He says the issues we have already known for years. But the thing is... When a new player talks about those issues instead of me or you, it feels completely different. We can look from his screen to the game and see where he's going and what he is doing. And when we say "just go to realm bro." "just be level 20 bro" "why are you going to wine cellar with those items and level bro" we realize the fact that we don't even remember what being a new player is. That's why deca should look at this video. I always criticized deca because they're okay with making early game outdated. In this game there should be a "early game" "mid game" and "late game" and right now, Early game is being 20 level, mid game is being 8/8 (not since o3 release) late game is exaltation dungeons (not since o3 release) Long story short there is only end game. Just make early game fun. Make interesting items like snek eye ring and motivate us to enter early game dungeons instead of rushing o3 with 50 bfame. Even grinding potions are extremely boring now. You should do something deca. Because new players not finding this game interesting and end game is repeating itself.

[@enemystand2981]

Realm rework should be top of DECA’s priorities imo. I thought it would be sooner, but in the last patch notes it seems like they’re relatively disinterested in it. The realm needs life, perhaps small towns with NPC’s who tell you to fetch quest items from specific dungeons, perhaps challenges where you have to do dungeons within a time limit or with a certain item equipped. Maybe you could even buy consumables in these towns with either fame or a new in game currency you get for doing these quests. Also the ground is the ugliest thing in the world, Josh definitely got that right, aesthetically it just needs a massive overhaul. Change realm clearing to be maybe certain numbers of different dungeons need to be beaten by everyone, while keeping some of the more fun events etc, but also fixing bosses like ent ancient, liches and ghost kings to be more fun. More landmarks and access to lore throughout the realm would also kick ass. I also feel this would make the game feel much more accessible to new players by giving them more distinct goals to lead them through the game

[@Its-Boshy-time]

The npc idead is indeed very cool maybe u find NPC's on realm and need rescue then untill make the town full

[@sushi7949]

GUYS GUESS WHAT

[@bubbley1234]

He now has reached lvl 20 and was last seen 3 minutes ago on realmeye, so maybe he'll do a follow up video?

[@notmyidea8134]

He will make a follow up

[@justsomegirlwithahat333]

Yes cause rotmg veterans are mad at him

[@thaflowie]

i think the biggest mistake the game does is tryin to advertise itself as an mmorpg, normal mmo players most of the time wont enjoy this. but if they were to advertise itself within the roguelike genre more heavily it suddenly becomes one of the best roguelike games out there.

[@sebchoof]

True!

[@applentee]

you know, i remember my physical DREAD of teleporting to anyone in the realm because before there was TP invincibility... you'd tp to someone literally running into a god wall and you're character just insta dies

[@sebchoof]

Haha I remember that that was dark times

[@rnGeezus]

Played for over a year had not one clue how to leave the guild that died while I was in my month three of the game so I was in a dead guild for like 9 months before I figured out how to leave by asking someone in game. . .😅

[@alexdrenth]

28:40 he didn't do multiple castles, its multiple clips of the same castle. You can see the gear/level are the same

[@cheeseier]

I told two of my friends about it when unity client released and they did not get into it at all even with me holding their hand to help them understand the stuff one of them had played it before but the other had never played it that's the last time either of them played it. It's almost impossible to hook someone onto the game when it requires like a week or two to get into the game fully. I personally have not played the game in a few months and i don't know if I will for a while it's just not as fun as it used to be for me. I haven't played a whole lot of the endgame content as I stopped playing for when the lost halls and other endgame content first released and it made it hard to get into without discords which I don't want to use. I'm sure if I put the time in I could learn how to do a lost halls but why put the time into it to not get anything for my first few times and lose characters when I could just attempt other dungeons that have decent loot not as good but are so much easier to complete. I might only get a few pots in a lost halls but if I did 2 or 3 dungeons in the time it takes to do the lost halls then I could do more without going into it. I think in the transition from midgame to endgame you have to be willing to keep putting your character through the gauntlet of trying new dungeons for little reward until you learn how to do it and then you can keep going and try to get loot. One of the biggest things that took me out of the game was my archer ppe. I got the st armor from the library in my first one and then I tried almost 200 more and couldn't get the bow I had the rest of the set but just could not get it. I understand the drop rates are better in endgame dungeons because they are more dangerous and harder to complete but I think if you do 200 dungeons most of them solo you should be able to get everything that there is in that dungeon. I got so many seals from that as well. I felt the forge was meant for situations like those but it just didn't turn out how I would have liked it to. My personal opinion is that you should be able to trade 3 whites from the same tier for a white of that same tier and making it use all those random currencies is just so people will buy more of them. Like you should have been able to exchange a few cbows for a ctrap and that would be fair. Another problem is that no content is being introduced for new and midgame players which means that the most fun way to progress through the midgame is to make a ppe and then use that to gear up another one of you characters and then take that character to the endgame dungeons and try to survive when its 8/8. This comment has been all over the place but I really feel that this game is just made for endgame players now and not for new or midgame players.

[@SkuldSpookster]

You can do pub Fungal Caverns (By proxy I think pub Crystal Caverns too), Pub Lost Halls (They're usually cults tho), and Pub Nests, they're all very possible and genuinely a lot of fun. I'm not saying they're easy, but you don't need to be a pro to do them, I was playing as a 0/8 wizard and still managed to get through a Lost Halls cult run (Granted of these, cult is the easiest but still). DECA also made some pretty big changes with boss rewards, that being a lot of the higher-tier dungeons such as Cdepths, DDocks, Woodlabs, Lair of Draconis, all these dungeons now drop GREATER stat potions, they speed up your progress significantly and it's super possible to do them in pubs

[@Charziken]

I honestly feel so bad that his first impression with the game was an O3 raid

[@cocktail7342]

I hate how he doesnt click the arrow key hiding the notifications

[@hollowcloplover9539]

And he never picked up the t1 spell in the desert

[@Ash-bl7vm]

@@hollowcloplover9539 and never got to the godlands…

[@TheJustVillain]

@Volzye time stamp pls.

[@sebastiansanchez8752]

I agree with toastrz, it's very similar with his trove video. I used to play the game a lot but his review is of so little gameplay that he never even got to the actual problems in the game because he found the core gameplay loop to be the problem. Trove is another game where there is no story so I do think Josh is a little biased which he does disclose at the end of the rotmg video.

[@MiguelMarques1402]

0:30 AHAHAH SO IT WAS YOU!!! YOU CAUSED IT! YOU BROUGHT CHAOS TO REALM ONCE AGAIN!! The kill aura accidental advertisement wasn't enough! YOU EXCEDED YOURSELF THIS TIME SEB! I'm so proud! Even Rotmg Troller can't keep up with you... Maybe you are him! Keep it up and maybe DECA will finally sell the game! Or even better! Actually have to release content!

[@KezJUNGLIST]

everyone i know including myself absolutely hated this game on the first time playing, it wasn't until i came back on a whim that i found out i loved it. i think the main issue is dumping new players into dead servers and the nexus really just needs to be redesigned. only people invested in the game would ever really spend money on the cash shop so i don't even think new players should even get to see it, keep it in the bazaars. forest maze should have some jungle drum n bass blasting not a toddler playing a keyboard. 95% of new players realm sees is because their friends babysat through their entire experience and helped them out.

[@sebchoof]

Yeahh same the game didn’t stick with me the first time till I played the second time to try to finish kongregate achievements haha

[@sethheinzman5823]

The old music was perfect and they got rid of it. Literally why I got addicted to realm in the first place lol

[@snipermonkey7575]

One thing i really like about you is that you make these long videos interesting by actually pointing out stuff and bringing different things in the video. Thats why i almost always fully watch your long videos because you make them interesting and not just sit and not commentate like a dead man.

[@sebchoof]

Thanks appreciate it a lot :) more rant content coming

[@burakovic816]

confused isn't random you easily train your muscle memory also good thing blobs were reworked and they didn't one shot him

[@brokensquidwoodshop4209]

New to playing myself.... my biggest complaint is that the community is fairly selfish in regards to lower rare dungeons. Take beachzone for example..... doesn't get poped all the time, you find the guy, get the dungeon and wait for folks to port in. Instead of waiting for all participants to take part, folks just rush in for the kill. Yes its fairly trivial, but you can see this in all sorts of low end dungeons. Snake pits can be the worst. I don't have much issue now that I've blue starred, but that said, it was very off putting.

[@hollowcloplover9539]

Never watched the original, just because I waited for this!

[@snazz1363]

lol he thought soulbound means you keep it on death, if only

[@soothingsounds6244]

When did realm stop introducing the nexus to you during the tutorial

[@JustSomeGhostWF]

I love how everyone in chat screams about how he didn't know multiple keybinds the game didn't tell him about.

[@Harry-bi6uq]

The original soundtrack is more cemented in my mind then the commandments, also 15k hours jesus christ i thought i was a degen

[@JustPlayFare]

I think that his video is very accurate for a new player it’s not a problem if he didn’t get far because a new player would lose interest if they don’t like it

[@Bash7]

In the comments he did mention it was one of his worst reviews but bad doesn’t mean completely disregard the facts he is saying.

[@bert_wert]

His playtrough reminded me of the one video critic that couldn’t get passed cupheads tutorial lvl. So i guess 10 hours could be true.

[@9onner]

I know that this is a year old, but when i first started realm I thought it was a fake game. With only the beach on my screen and the enemies being so simple i actually thought the game was a fake ad like most old youtube ads. I even put the game down until a friend of mine asked me to play. With the new Exalt client this is nearly impossible but the game needs to make its point clearer or atleast any game like it

[@rice2cu5881]

I turned my music off but everytime I do htt I turn it back on for the duration of the dungeon

[@sebchoof]

Can’t blame you it’s definitely one of the best tracks

[@jaimemorales155]

same its the only place where i turn music on

[@sebchoof]

@@jaimemorales155oryx is also pretty good + lh

[@fluffylloma8266]

The music use to be so much better when I came back to playing I was so pissed that they changed it

[@peterbrown8455]

"I don't think it's something they [Deca] can ignore"... I think you underestimate our ability to be apathetic when we're still making $.

[@NnyxSL]

Have you thought about completely resting your characters and vaults? Only keeping pet. I get bored of realm when I have all the great items, so sometimes I reset my account and start "fresh" with pet

[@sebchoof]

i was thinking of doing a new account experience series on youtube with a twist actually :D

[@hollowcloplover9539]

@@sebchoof Pleaaaaaaase do this

[@foxy-uo1nm]

@@sebchoof you answer pretty quick lmao

[@NnyxSL]

@@sebchoof I would love to watch that! Even as a "some what" veteran player I believe the new account experience would be amazing to bring new people in but also someone knew for old players to watch. To many PPE or NPE montages.

[@xchickenx3479]

@@sebchoof poggies

[@sonictrain1]

The man didn't even hit level 20 oh my goodness...

[@jedzk]

33:37 it aint a tiny mistake wtf xD

[@StevenSupticEdited]

Yes it is

[@iahngr622]

He also didn’t talk about the pay to play aspect of the endgame being pets . O3 is impossible to do without high level pets for the average player like me .

[@fnutek3720]

that is fair though, oryx 3 is supposed to be the VERY FINAL boss of the game, the average player with a bad or medium tier pet is not supposed to kill oryx 3.

[@reverendparadox7316]

Ima keep it 100 I couldnt get to 1/8 forever because I never knew you could nexus on a hotkey

[@elijahbarf5066]

i think this game is the best mmo its simple doesnt take years to master

[@rnGeezus]

His misunderstanding on what soul bound means tho. . . 🤫😂

[@byeaccount1941]

I playd Rotmg back in Days, i just checked back in and god damn, feels like a different Game :D seems like dungeons got reworked and stuff, i just died in a ice cave from Lava? not sure, cuz it was the first time i was in there and didnt see my HP go down like crazy and im ded :D i think new players will never enjoy the Game, cuz there is so much shit out now. so many items... i stopped when Items got Untradable, Game feels smooth but to get back into it, i would probably need some1 who is teaching me dungeons and Boss mechanics :D The pet thingy already was kinda weird back in days cuz it felt like P2W. but they allways wanted money so nothing new. and now you can even exalt chars? and forge items? to much shit to learn for me, so i just rather dont play lol :D i think this game just needs a freaking rework :D back to the roots.

[@sebchoof]

Oh there’s damaging ice blocks like lava xD

[@byeaccount1941]

@@sebchoof i wish there would be something like a idk "Test Server"? where you could just spawn dungeons / events... have god mode or u cant go below 1hp and just learn the mechanics of the dungeon / event without haveing to die 100 times to understand it :D obv. i could just type in youtube "rotmg ice cave" and i might find a guide on how to do it. but you know what i mean? :D

[@sebchoof]

@@byeaccount1941 you can do some similar things on the testing server

[@Kacper42PL]

Deca seriously HAS to take big notes from this video and instead of making fucking 3rd generation of STs before releasing a final 2nd generation set or other unnecessary shit for whales and veterans do an actual deep rework of the stuff that matters like realms

[@sebchoof]

Yeah the fact that we’re getting 17 more ST sets is really concerning

[@nolanplayer564]

For me realm was always about getting the best loot and I feel like he left out some things about looting and pots

[@IAmNotJustJess]

hey guys Sebchoof here

[@DomesticLlamas23]

Honestly watching people try this game is so embarrassing. The new player experience is just so bad

[@Ian-we2pq]

when i was no to rotmg i loved the learning from experience/mistakes xD

[@xlucid1x]

Deca spent wayyy too much time adding endgame stuff. the unity rework was a waste of time, because no new players wanted to stay anyway.

[@joseneo_]

It was made more for long time players since they added new dungeons with some stuff and effects that were not possible on flash

[@gallopingoctopus1364]

He didn't play the game like he wanted to like it. He didn't put any effort into figuring anything out.

[@mirpcow]

This is irrelevant to Josh's video but Seb is dripping hard in this video with that button up shirt

[@ParadoxHit]

Love the Chrono Trigger music.

[@qwwupp4763]

If he got a white bag he would of said this is the best game of all time 😤

[@joseneo_]

Liinki even appears in the original video lmao

[@redeagle8559]

Been playin for years n havnt even fully exalted a character...

[@flyprz7452]

it took me just over an hour to get lvl 20

[@sonictrain1]

This video bothers me more than one josh made

[@alextangym]

What's the song at the start

[@MrGibby2]

the beginning struggles is what made me keep coming back without it being hard it would get stale super fast whic h is why he does hpe's

[@StevenSupticEdited]

Great video and brings up a great point: your criticisms dont have to be in depth for them to be valid

[@MasterMario97]

The whole point of criticism is for the creator to aknowledge the flaws and try to act accordingly in order to fix said flaws. If the criticism doesn't go in great detail about what exactly went wrong, the people responsible for these flaws sure as hell won't know any better.

[@StevenSupticEdited]

@@MasterMario97 No you are wrong thinking that's the only valid criticism. Yes, an in depth analysis is one kind of criticism, but the other, often overlooked perspective is one from a fresh viewpoint. Ofcourse all the developers are going to have some cognitive biases regarding what's clear and what isn't for a starting new player. And this video showed exactly that: Where do you go in the nexus? what is the difference between realms? where do you find dungeons?. All things an experienced player would overlook, but in all honesty if I started playing for the first time, I would probably stop playing before I entered a dungeon

[@lukullberg955]

@@StevenSupticEdited He should've asked other more experienced players its an MMO go and talk to other people... If he want to nerd out with some npcs like a total loser (which he is)(soy drinking nerd btw) he should play Skyrim or something

[@ironman1458]

@@lukullberg955 You're acting like a full on basement dweller and wondering why people dont just talk to experienced people to learn the game. If the game is shit, and new players need too talk to basement dwellers such as yourself to even understand what is happening, most people are just gonna go do something else with their life. You must be really starved for social interaction if your only defense of very blatant flaws in the game are "he just didnt talk to enough autistic retards like myself" I dont think you have much of a leg to stand on

[@froozynoobfan]

Did you see the follow up?

[@sebchoof]

yeahh ill msot likely upload a reaction video to that video some day soon : )

[@froozynoobfan]

@@sebchoof all this gave me hopes for the game, might revisit my 9year old account. What should i do? Maybe a series / community colab idea starting the game fresh, explaining lore and mechanics as you go for new people, like i recall kalle his NPE as legendary. There are most likely many new players and thzme only thing the players can do is try to onboard them as good as possible while deca figures out how to do it themselves

[@daisyrose5787]

Crazy Skill issue

[@bllllllllackbirdie]

i feel like all the hatecomments are just poeple who want hear someone who is new shit talk on problems they have not on problems that keep them addicted to the game.

[@MrQwerp]

Wow great video, it made me want to go watch his.

[@kruk0]

Im from finland and i play in euw or change to usw when euw is dead

[@TimmMix]

Mature and objective reaction. Nice one

[@fskymera]

burden of knowledge. simple

[@instakillgaming]

S/O smash pery

[@staffofthecrystalserpant7751]

The fact Josh CAME BACK to this game says a lot about it. No idea why deca refuses to capitalize their choke hold over realm likes. Darzas is alright now I guess. Still lacking content

[@fuki999]

"smh p2w game" -guy that played 20 min

[@RotmgTroller]

you stole my idea i reacted to this first

[@sebchoof]

Get rekt noob!!!

[@eighty_8821]

*dies* "game bad"

[@pqr2673]

25:18 💀💀💀💀

[@Z5GRGTe96KmSq86j]

I started the game 7 days ago and I go 1-20 in 15 min solo he a noob

[@sebchoof]

True

[@cuvbruv7077]

i love rotmg mmmmm Batchest

[@xchickenx3479]

well said

[@chancebeck6235]

No this mmo isn’t that bad

[@Purpial]

good video

[@jasonsenter1646]

Josh got way too much hate for this video. He basically had to make a 2nd video apologizing for everything which is sickening how harsh everyone was on him. We have to take into account that this is one of the first, if not the very first bullet hell games he has ever played. Of course he is going to be bad. He is a new player. Think of the very first time you played this game. How long did it take for you to get to level 20? Well over 10 hours. The guy who posted that sickening response on Reddit needs to put himself in Josh's shoes and have a reality check after insulting Josh and getting everyone to hate on him. People do not realize how fucking hard it is for new players to advance in this game, especially if they are new to bullet hell games. It will literally take new players dozens of hours to get literally anywhere let alone know that the max level is 20. Therefore how would Josh know that he has a goal to get to level 20 and stop aimlessly letting himself die. Any new player would do the same.

[@alexseekingtheKingdom]

❤❤❤

[@sebchoof]

[@Incrediblefatslug]

He just hates rogue likes.

[@ironman1458]

Why is the game advertised as an mmorpg if you guys dont even see it as one

[@ascended2272]

Hi seb big fan

[@sebchoof]

Hello!!!

[@pqr2673]

True LULW

[@matikuittinen9784]

First wassup seb

[@sebchoof]

yo :)

[@xchickenx3479]

@@sebchoof no u

[@gyattrizzV]

wtf im watching this video and you just rushed my ot

[@sebchoof]

ur welcome!! :D

[@Psych0boost]

The absolute clownery of these people expecting a guy who plays truckloads of MMOs to give more than a surface-level review

[@yanhuideng8263]

As part of the premise, Josh says that he plays ten hours for every MMO he reviews. He said that he played ten hours of RotMG in his video, and continued to back that claim up in his comment section. Realmeye revealed that he had spent less than an hour in the game. While I agree with many of his points, one can't deny the fact that he was being rather disingenuous this time around.

[@lukullberg955]

>Makes shitty review >Gets criticised Brooooo I review lots of mmos I dont have time to do any basic research!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!