Second Hand Heroes: Bentley Alternatives - Fifth Gear

[@peterturner5618]

I have a 2007 S-Type 3.0 and it's brilliant. Lots of power, good fuel economy, elegant and comfortable. It's unique enough to stand out, It's been the most reliable car I've owned in 50 + years of motoring.

[@yueibm]

1:30 wrong interior shot. That was the S-Type instead of the Rover 75.

[@chrwl007]

Indeed. Can spot that generation Jaguar interior instantly.

[@CulpinKing]

Good spot. Sack the editor.

[@iljasnetkovs745]

Best Bentley alternatives: 3) A Bentley

[@ArturoPerez-si2xk]

But if you don't have the money for buy it?

[@adrianduffen600]

I would not mind any of them! The S type is the closest to my heart though as that is the car that got me my job with Jaguar Cars, (now JLR)!

[@sbomorse]

1:30 taking about the Rover but showing the Jag interior. Sack the editor!

[@faizanuar850]

Samuel Brooks iq

[@Whiponized]

Calm down

[@richardhewer335]

No that is the rover interior. I owned one. They're beautiful inside.

[@sbomorse]

@@richardhewer335 no it's not.

[@richardhewer335]

@@sbomorse yeah you're right... Split second shot... My apologies.. Well spotted!

[@callumhardy5098]

The S-type is the one that I think has best stood the best of time.

[@geoffk777]

Bentley Turbos are classics, but they're complex with lots of failure points. If you buy one with problems, it will cost a fortune to fix it--if you even can (See Hoovie's experience with his Bentley Turbo). The only way to buy a used Rolls or Bentley is to go to a specialized shop that services, reconditions and sells them. You can get some kind of warranty, and you'll know that the car is working properly when you buy it. It's worth a few thousand extra for this.

[@eurosonly]

I like how they all have the same front end design.

[@BobbyDeniroX]

should of put ls400 in as the alternative aswel. best of the lot in that year range easily

[@racketman2u]

I rather fancied the idea of an S-type for cheap luxury. until i saw those parts prices.

[@chrwl007]

S-Type 2.7D twin turbo or 4.0 V8, thank you very much. The Bentley does look like a very pleasant car to drive, though.

[@admiraltiberius1989]

I'd love to grey import a Rover 75 to America.

[@Trillclan13]

Anyone else notice the jag interior at 1:29?

[@Darthadios]

I would love to have Rover 75, but getting spares for it outside of Great Britain can be painful, and brexit will not make that any easier. =/ My local used car dealer had an S-type for sale quite a while, they really struggled to sell it.

[@KretinoSantino]

One man once told a friend of mine that Rover 75 is the best car in the World. But you have to own two as one is always at repair shop.

[@Sanpedranoazul]

Cars with character

[@eurosonly]

How ironic that my lexus suffers from the rear boot leak in exactly the same spot he mentions. I got rear ended a few years ago and had it pulled out on the frame but I guess it just wasn't done all that well and I found out months later that it leaks.

[@dominicrichardson5546]

lol you can get a continental gt 6.0 for under 20k now

[@charlesmacgilchrist3648]

The mad thing is that most people who buy the £140k Bentleys are spending less than 1% of their total wealth! This can be interpreted in 2 ways - that the average Jo is spending 10 times more on their car than they should, or the rich just don't like cars.

[@charlesmacgilchrist3648]

5:56 is the sort of thing you'd here of a Lada not a Bentley! Twice the price of a house new and needs the head gasket doing at just 50k. I guess if they did it under warranty they'd end up like NSU with their ro80

[@mattbedford875]

Weirdly, if you MOT check the Rover, it's still alive but shows as an MG ZT Tourer?

[@LtStone1]

Tiff is a gem!

[@kanob6440]

Different car, but as a 3rd owner of my xkr I couldn't be happier. Got 115k miles and is my daily lol

[@bumfluffmcregor3730]

That's a different car your on the wrong video

[@kieranwhite6647]

75 all the way!

[@allensaunders449]

nice idea good reviews

[@bbqBaconNinja]

I want one of those Bentley's. Buy one with a shot engine and swap in an LS or something. It will give it plenty of torque to move that beast and they are cheap as borscht. The right exhaust will keep it very quite and there are plenty of transmissions available to choose from.

[@bmstylee]

bbqBaconNinja an LS in a Bentley. that would be cool. and LS motors are great motors to put power adders on.

[@INUMIMI28]

bbqBaconNinja It would be much more reliable as well

[@DoubleDeckerAnton]

I like these big ol' luxury cars...English or German...very nice...!!! 😁🔝👍

[@tommuchitty8719]

A Bentley that doesn't break the Bank!!!!!!! (Servicing)????

[@AndrewGruffudd]

If you go to a factory-trained specialist, servicing should cost no more than sending a BMW to a main dealer.

[@tommuchitty8719]

Mate I have a 1993 Brooklands Bentley and it cost 3 grand every two years in suspension rebuilds. I am pretty sure an old Bentley is bit more than a BMW.

[@AndrewGruffudd]

It's not impossible. But then it's possible to have nothing but trouble with a new car as well. For instance, if the car was in an accident at some point in its life and not quite well enough repaired, the wear on certain components could be excessive. This is why buying the right car in the first place is of the essence. If it has a warranty, then any faults can be detected in good time. Also, it depends on use and other variables: I cannot imagine that your story, as unfortunate as it is, is typical. If it were, the car would have a bad reputation. Typically, the main regular expense on the suspension of Bentleys of that era is the hydraulic system, which should be renewed every seven years.

[@tommuchitty8719]

One Owner car mate, no accidents. Just trying to give people an understanding that buying old Bentleys is not as cheap as what Tiff said in this video.

[@AndrewGruffudd]

It should have been sorted by the factory, then. Bentley is a business, and businesses have obligations to sell merchantable quality goods. And as Rolls-Royce (who then owned Bentley) pride themselves on quality, they would - if approached correctly from the first - bend over backwards to see your car right. As I said, it's not normal for such a car to wear its suspension so rapidly so, failing misuse and other possible causes, it wasn't built correctly in the first place. If it were me, I'd have established a relationship with the factory, which I could then call on in such an eventuality. Even now, I'd have the problem investigated thoroughly by an independent, possibly with a view to litigation - 'though I wouldn't expect much, it could at least mitigate expenditure and, possibly, recoup some of the past expense. That said, you should weigh that against the cost of a civil suit, which could be ruinously expensive in itself.

[@KretinoSantino]

I remember one pretty rich guy having 2 Rover 75 as daily car. He really loved the car but he always said you need to own 2 as one is always at service station,

[@Trucker-Moosey]

How is a rover on a list of the alternate of a bently 😅

[@pom2584]

You cant put a rover in the same sentence as a bentley

[@rare6499]

Agreed - the Rover is far superior ;)

[@1carusGG]

Hoovie would disagree with Tiff's opinion on the Turbo R. Notoriously unreliable.

[@joepenny3776]

3 good cars there.

[@Dangerous_Brian]

Did he say a Rover was reliable? Tell me again why they don't exist?

[@EnglanderUK]

Because it was run by morons who were trying to sign a deal with a massive chinese company and during a dinner meeting they signed over the rights to the cars whilst the MG Rover repersentives were pissed out of their skulls. Then the next day the chinese said "nah we aint interested but we now have your rights to the 25, 45 and 75, bye bye! So they had no choice but to go into administration.

[@rare6499]

The 75 was a reliable car.

[@Imacomingtoo]

@@rare6499 It still is

[@southengtranspo]

Saw a Bentley today

[@blxtothis]

The Jag could have been pretty good but ended up being a hot-pitch of nostalgia and bloated, dated, sluggish ordinariness!

[@jbenekeorr]

3:46 look at the state of that paintwork! Rubbish respray right there!

[@gustav_a.mozumder2011]

So you are absolutely positive that in 2017 I can buy a Bentley for under £15,000?!

[@AndrewGruffudd]

You can get a good one for under £15,000. In fact, if you get a car for over £10,000 from a dealer I know, you get a 2-year warranty as well (cars costing less than £10,000 from this dealer have a 1 year warranty).

[@gustav_a.mozumder2011]

Andrew Gruffudd WoW, thanks for your quick reply and this was such a help! Any address or a way to contact you too? I'm available in Facebook too. ☺

[@AndrewGruffudd]

facebook.com/busineversityrrb/

[@teem5642]

The rover is well known for head gasket problems, especially with the 1.8litre petrol

[@tomcole020]

Ruffas yeah but if you buy a nicer one it would most likely have an upgraded head gasket and a possible lifetime guarantee :) that's what my MG F has

[@AndrewGruffudd]

The problem the 1.8 has is the small coolant reservoir. If the owner isn't fastidious in maintaining coolant levels, then the gasket will blow. If he is, it should last to spec.

[@williamwoods8022]

Totally solved with the new N type gaskets used on the Chinese MG6 cars etc. The Rover engineers at the time had the solution to the problem but the management just wanted to waste money on the likes of MG SVR instead of fixing this simple problem and designing a decent replacement for the Metro/100 and is why they went bust in the end.

[@dongmingzhu666]

Bentley alternatives? Or poor man's Bentley?

[@deloreanman14]

That Jag was very clearly broadsided at some point and whoever painted it must have been an ape, incompetent or both.

[@davidpeters6536]

Jag is 3.0 ltr petrol (2.7 diesel). I had 2 S-Types (V6 & V8) and a V6 75. Jag is a much better car by far, but the 75 is comfortable.

[@Grandpimpin22]

the toyota commercial gave me cancer

[@SERGIO-cr6uy]

a Bentley for 10 grands? yeah right...

[@dragonbutt]

Rover 75 is love. Its a Sofa!

[@milusther999]

you forgot the vw pheaton

[@jameshale954]

SORRY 5TH GEAR BUT THE INTERIOR SHOT IS NOT THE SAME CAR AT 1:31 THE INTERIOR IS THE JAG S CLASS THEN AT 1:33 ITS BACK TO THE ROVER AGAIN THIS CAR NEVER HAD THAT DASH OR THAT CLIMATE CONTROL. EVEN THE SEATS ARE DIFFERENT

[@Kauppamopo]

> bentley alternative > rover 75 sorry, you can't have both

[@ravisriram6746]

Never liked this particular S-Type. I would settle for a MK2, myself, or the original S-Type. May as well get a proper classic car.

[@ianclaudio777]

There is only one luxury old and reliable car. Lexus ls400

[@Mare-hh8qt]

First!!

[@mrkongsimr]

Why is the Jaguar XJS coupe so cheap ?? Worthless ...

[@alukardFE]

There are no alternatives

[@laminlamin325]

Rover being extremely reliable.... seriously! I guess that was a joke

[@omarsharif123]

With the diesel bmw engine

[@mattbedford875]

All models are reliable, even the 1.8 k series if looked after. Even the diesel has its weaknesses, such as the common issue of the ancillary pulley wearing down, causing the belts to fly off randomly. Luckily the previous owner changed mine to the upgraded one

[@ianclaudio777]

One Word: unreliable

[@morecoffee998]

Best British car option is German

[@robertstewart302]

All and all three heaps of British turd

[@dragonbutt]

*13mpg* :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[@elvislad]

Tiff is so friggin good at this.

[@joytekb]

VW.Pheaton.Same factory where Bentley been made

[@theshadowman1398]

3K for two gaskets ? Daylight robbery

[@neilmason298]

Give me a Cdti Rover 75 tourer!!!

[@JohnGroshko]

The fact that the host of this show didn't mention anything about checking the mineral oil hydraulic system on the Bentley is simply stunning.... Easily the most common and costly problem on these cars.

[@iansteel1447]

I think 5th Gear should buy a Bentley for £10,000 and run it for a year, then tell us if its a good deal. Anyone can get in a car for 5 mins and say its great.

[@korky52]

A Bentley tat won't break the bank.lol! More chance of seeing a Unicorn.

[@LoEMDubstep]

That is one beautifully specced bentley

[@cornovii3012]

A Bentley that won't break the bank he says, £10,000 is all he says :-D

[@MathsYknow]

£10k plus 13mpg fuel bills and £3k for new head gaskets every 50k miles. And he didn't say whether it has nightmarish systems for brakes and fuel injection and self-levelling suspension etc which will all be as problematic and expensive to work on as the engine..

[@Negativvv]

That S Type appears to be sitting on "Sunny SN3970" tyres. You've probably never heard of them and I had to look them up. I'd probably avoid driving the Jag around much with those rubbers...

[@mirandinha247bainbrigge9]

At 1:31 that interior is from a jag

[@ivancosic6123]

lancia lybra??? 1000E

[@zriha]

I have an 2001. 2.4 JTD Lancia Lybra, great car, low maintenance costs, but it's a Fiat, so it has to be maintain. Love to drive it, and the interior is much better looking than these 3 cars.

[@dawesbiker]

Unfortunately Lancia pulled out of the UK market in 1994/5 so we didn't get the Lybra or anything after the Dedra.

[@zriha]

To bad, Lancia is a nice car.. :) Italian Merc :)

[@dawesbiker]

I know I always wanted one as a teenager, nearest I've had is an Alfa and a Bertone!

[@KretinoSantino]

Lancia Lybra is even worse than these British cars. Especially with the JTD. It's just small production FIAT model, with "charm" like FIAT Palio, but with all the flaws of small production. There's a fucking good reason why you don't see 1 Lybra on roads in years while there's still shitload of 90's cars running around.

[@framzgl7916]

The Jaguar S Type is a beautiful and nice car

[@Soulvex]

Omega Elite or MV6 or Volvo V70 T5 are probably both more reliable, comfier and probably a little quicker. Both the Jag and Rover are pretty crap, most are now dead.

[@davidpeters6536]

The Jag is all wrong, the plate is 04 but the car is pre-02 update, check the rear lights and boot,

[@Pete-z6e]

Bring back Tiff !

[@finncook2302]

honor resemble help popular him championship welfare size.

[@pieterschadron3644]

one wonders why these superb cars are cheaper than a Fiat

[@billcobbett9259]

Of course the 'S' type was cheap- it was built on the Mondeo platform.

[@jadaniil]

Don't mistake the S Type for the X Type... Only the X Type was based on a Mondeo...

[@voodoomelons]

I bought a 3.0l V6 S-Type last year for shits and giggles. That thing could fairly move. Shame it smelt of old man piss.

[@wes276]

You have to be out of your mind to buy ANY of these. You think it's cheap just because it can be bought for little money? There's a reason for that. You WILL pay a SHIT TON to keep those cars running. Stay AWAY from used British cars. Lol

[@hassaansaalim6573]

How are these cars cheap when things go wrong you would have rather just brought a almost new bentley

[@MxMax-iu9dt]

Those cars look dreadful

[@jonathanjackson9208]

The only car to have here is the Bentley

[@mercedes2336]

Those cars are not safe

[@mattbedford875]

The Rover 75 was the first ever car to get a full 5 star euro ncap safety rating, however due to not all models having the side airbags, it couldn't be awarded. But still 4 stars

[@mianfazlerazik3636]

They look obselete