Second Serve Lesson For ADVANCED PLAYERS (+ challenge) Ft. Winston Du!

Having confidence on your second serve is a key element for holding serve more often and winning tennis matches. Amateur players tend to struggle with this. So in today’s video we help Winston Du improve his second serve. But can’t he complete the 7/10 challenge? Let’s find out!
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We reveal pro tennis tips that help amateur players quickly win more. Our how-to videos cover all essential parts of tennis: forehands, backhands, serves, volleys, singles strategy, doubles tactics, and more. Brought to you by Gui Hadlich and Karue Sell, passionate former D1 college and ATP professional players.n

[@MyTennisHQ]

Will Winston complete the challenge?? Write a comment below before you start watching it 😂😂

[@SquirrelWhisper3r]

Gonna say nah, too much pressure

[@germanslice]

Serving the ball well when full of energy is one thing, anyone can do that, that's the easiest part of playing the match. But its a whole different level altogether to also be able to hold up your serve just as good when you are feeling all physically exhausted from long rallies with a tough opponent and can barely hold yourself up to even hit the next serve. This is why I clamp the power level in my serve and clamp just about everything else that I hit. I can't see any other way of making the serve click in the court except that you keep your hands loose. I don't think you can do it if your hands are all tight. I was taught by a former Bolliteri Coach who now coaches nationals and what we are taught by the coach to do is to take the little finger off the grip when doing our serves so we can keep ourselves loose.. I also believe we have to learn to balance everything out for the serve and even for all the other shots. So the power level is not up too high that we don't lose all the tight spin on the ball or if we lose the tight spin then we also lose control off the ball as the power overrides the spin and control and starts overcooking all the lines and that the spin is not too loose either because of the power level being too high for the spin. So I clamp my power levels in my shots so I can keep the spin tight so that it don't unravel and become too loose on the ball.

[@todlele9990]

He is not gonna complete 😅

[@spikefist]

He’s going to do it!

[@thugzclub4070]

Yes

[@JaffaHeckle]

Karue is such a dude. Despite being pro level he has the patience to teach people of all levels. An inspiration.

[@rohitennis7]

it's amazing to me that Karue is literally on the ATP tour coaching Marcos Giron and is also giving a great lesson to Winston

[@omarsultanov362]

Giron teaches Karue, I believe 😂

[@FedererAmazingClass]

I'm a 4.5 and have a relatively strong first and second serve and can hit a variety of them and place them where I want with pretty good consistency. It's probably my best shot. What I tell myself when hitting a second serve is 1. Trusting that it'll go in. 2. Don't go after a bad toss. 3. Focus on being super loose and swing aggressively.

[@SantiagojoseChacon]

Don’t go after a bad toss ❤ I will remember that from now on

[@johnfacada3893]

The looseness is key to maintaining good pace on serves. Although I know it, it is not easy to do consistently.

[@theintentionalist]

A few second serve videos came out recently for some reason. I’ll be adding the 7/10 drill to my practice. Thanks guys!

[@Stu49583]

Best kick serve tutorial I have seen for intermediate level guys who struggle with the kick serve.

[@LiamApilado]

9:15 I think its great to let your students talk and re-explain what they learnt bc if you can teach it then you understand it

[@peterpark7939]

I make 9/10 in practice yet 50% in a match. This goes to show how added pressure affects your second serve, especially in clutch moments.

[@filipmaskovic1877]

And it perpetuates itself. Past experiences puts even more pressure in clutch moments telling you that there is a higher chance you miss than make it. So you have to change the mental approach. Focus on the next ball, imagine a perfect scenario, see yourself proud and victoirous.

[@johnfacada3893]

Try maybe focus on keeping your head up after actually hitting the ball. This works wonders for me - when I remember to do it!

[@ifeanyiikpegbu6465]

​@johnfacada3893 it depends on whether he's hitting long or hitting into the net

[@tobiaslejnerborn2238]

100,000 congratulations!!! I think I have been around since close to the beginning. Love your channel Karue & Gui!

[@jamesmears7552]

Wow awesome Winston!!! those serves look great! So glad my two favorite tennis channels are collabing!!! Big fan of both of you guys! GL out there!

[@Mattsj91]

Honestly, you have the best tennis "tips" channel on YT man, always well explained and knowledgeable! Greetings from Melbourne ✌

[@MrDaoJones]

I'm so glad I've discovered you, Winston, and Winners Only Tennis. Great channels for someone getting back into tennis after being off and on for many years. This content rules. Thank you.

[@Evolucion83]

Just love ur stuff Karue, step by step my serve is getting better, 1st and 2nd. Thanks from Germany 🙏🏽

[@lyndseyandandrew5771]

Thanks for the video! I'm working on this exact thing this summer and am struggling with very similar things to Winston, but at a lower level. I know this will be helpful! I've recently been surprised how tempting bad tosses are. And even decent tosses that feel close are often too far off the ideal contact point to be worth swinging at.

[@LiamApilado]

Would love to see a volley lesson with the same focus on certain inputs. Focusing on staying side on and swinging from 7-6 oclock has shifted my focus on my inputs making me so much better as well as the 3 inputs you mentioned in your forehand video, preparing infront of the body, head still and always staying active with the legs

[@funvidman]

Well, looks like we can see where those improved serves in Winston's last outing against Nastya came from. Nice instructional vid, can't wait to try to apply this on the court myself.

[@rogerfederer1622]

The challenge was exciting. Love this series with Winston as a 4.5 player myself. Thanks Karue!

[@MyTennisHQ]

thank you, roger

[@eugenos]

Love this series, super helpful tips. Thanks Karue and Winston!

[@MyTennisHQ]

Glad you like them!

[@vincenthebert9688]

Awesome video! Tks for sharing such great content!!

[@NickNeras]

Awesome format Thank you for video 👌

[@internetenjoyer200]

Great lesson and video, Winston's the man!

[@mjidbenbrahim6261]

karue can teach at all levels.That's the Mark of a great Coach.keep up the great work and Thank you for sharing.

[@jayhawkdad1]

Awesome! Great instruction and great student!

[@michelemeo8679]

Great video Karue! About the challenge, I never doubted Winston!!!

[@travisbarber350]

Great series!!

[@TennisIQChallenge]

Great lesson, guys. Love the quality and content from this channel. 🔥

[@Erwin_Tolentino]

Nice drill. I'll have to try this one and see how it goes. Thanks!

[@Dimone11]

That's a great video! Rly nice mental ideas to hold for when you serve and under pressure. Bring it more!) Also can you tell about your shoes?😅

[@sohamchoughule5442]

best lesson spin more and gravity will bring it down I was so confused for my second serve thank you for helping

[@JustinThormodsgard]

Thanks!

[@nking99t]

Finally, Serve class for Winston!

[@AIMBOTKATFISH]

I have found that to increase serve contact consistency (especially on kick serve which has a narrow spin window) tossing a bit lower helps a ton. This means the ball is falling slower which lets you time the contact better. I tell myself to hit the ball at the top of the toss, but on video I make contact slightly after. This drastically reduces shanks on the kick serve.

[@adriana_dinu]

great drills. i'll be using these with my Varsity HS students!

[@kdesa1]

Great video!

[@ericdishington428]

Wow, I've never considered the follow thru staying to the right. Guess this is why sometimes I hit my left shin with my racquet. I'm going to try this.

[@jaychon8418]

great lesson. wish I had a serve like Mr. Sell's

[@FUsheK]

great coach 💪🏻

[@LiamApilado]

This could be the video that will take you over 100k subs! Congratulations 👏🥳 last upload

[@where-we-roam]

Nice lesson. Btw Karue, like the look of those Rush Pros you are wearing.

[@MJTRIZZLE]

great video, i often struggle to actually add pace to slice and kick serves (2nd serves). do you have any tutorials for this or have any tips?

[@petercassidy8036]

Great Vid, Mr K

[@timvansamang]

Great content! 🙏

[@MyTennisHQ]

Thank you 🙌

[@wisamsalman3018]

great video

[@MB-le7tw]

good stuff, good stuff thanks karue. is the shoulder rotation different on the kick serve than the flat (when unloading into the ball)?

[@ashokreddy2640]

Former (maybe future?) 5.0 player. Great job Winston! I love Karue's tips about (i) shooting the ball higher after contact, (ii) not rotating the chest like a 1st serve, and (iii) finishing with the racket face fully rotating to end up looking at the back fence. On the ad side, Winston's better serves did these. On the deuce side, the serves looked more like slice serves, missing (iii). @mytennishq - Any changes to the motion on deuce vs. ad side kick serves? I tend to just adjust my feet, but *try* to keep the same swing.

[@anonamenoname986]

When is the next tournament video? I absolutely love those

[@benli9996]

Can u give work on Winston’s net game? Would help everyone a lot

[@limonRiver8818]

Cool video and well done Winston. It's focused on consistency but just curious about the speed. Even at 4.5 level 60-65 mph is not going to cut it with good players. Are you guys addressing that later?

[@katebosone9805]

Top content as usual.. Is it possible we could tell Winston to hold the racket 2cm further down the grip towards the butcap?

[@maxfawcett1570]

Great to see Winston is wearing the correct socks!!

[@sarahburns9929]

So close to 100K! 🎉

[@ads213]

Thank you bro ! What about serving from deuce side ?

[@LiamApilado]

6:41 what black bagic did you did Karue 😂 instant unbelievable serves in a row

[@bmanbusee3812]

Good vid. Problem is my kicker doesn’t have much pace on it and floats for opponent to attack and even sometimes goes into the net. Any advice to correct this?

[@zaxway8619]

How to avoid elbow injuries while serving? This serve looks like it hurts the elbow a lot.

[@dirtyreiner]

I wondered why you did't speak about the pronation of the wrist. I thaught a kickserve can't work without it :D

[@ryantraniam]

Wow. That pulling in thing where I miss into the net is exactly my problem.

[@Matheusfk3]

Karue, we're almost at 100k, man. Keep it up! How much do you take into consideration the dominant eye in your lessons or when coaching? I just watched a Patrick Moratglou's video and what he said about the slight variations in tecnique, specially when serving, because of being right of left eye dominant made a lot of sense to me. I would love to hear your take on that! Greetings from your home country, Brazil!

[@jeromep4148]

The tosses look like the are right over Winston’s head. Is that the preferred location? Tossing behind the head to me always was tough on my back.

[@MostLikedComment123]

second serve consistency is not a problem for me, but rather the consistency of the quality of the kick either its on their head or it will land way to low and almost sluggish and I get smoked it never has been my weapon so usually i stick with a slice body. or smth

[@briankronberg]

Karue uses a J toss. Switching to a J toss solved my toss problems. It really aids with accuracy.

[@briankronberg]

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[@chuckersthenut2097]

If you have to ask you can't afford it.

[@puzzleguzzler]

@@ebstmnt J reflects the trajectory of the ball during the toss. Starts from the bottom of the letter and goes up. Think of that J against gravity!

[@puzzleguzzler]

@@chuckersthenut2097 I hope you are not entitled and feel superior like your words depict! Good luck Chuck!

[@sbgtrev]

Is it necessary to turn your body to the front after making contact? Some instructors advise keeping it facing to the right (for the right handers)

[@LiamApilado]

I wish my shoulder would heal sooner so I can practice my serves. Kick serves do a number on my shoulder

[@elchanclascocina]

Thanks Karue, pretty good! Question, is there anything like a "safe" slice to the T or out wide (deuce for righty, ad for lefty) 2nd serve? Or by nature slice can't be safe (at a decent pace). I ask this to mix it up instead of always kicking the 2nd serve.

[@txsurfnturf]

Hi, I'm not Karue, but I think a good slice second serve is usually a good choice. It's always nice to mix things up. Also, don't count out a slice to the T, that cuts into the body. Sometimes you can cause your opponent to 'jam' himself/herself with that one.

[@ekessel21]

This is maybe a more technical question, but what's the role of the legs w/ the kick serve? Are you meant to drive up from the lower body, or is the swinging "leading" the body up?

[@fosho8214]

not sure if it's his grip, not trusting to swing out on it or what but his swing doesn't seem natural lol it’s not just his serve but also on his regular overheads. I'm sure Karue can help fix it. going to need to practice that serve every day to get it to feel second nature. Good luck Winston props for at least putting in the effort.

[@jan1832]

Great Video! Love your channel! I'm around 5.0 player. I have a decent consistent second serve with kick that I hit to the backhand side. Against same level or lower level players there is no problem. But against better players, they walk around their backhand and too often manage to hit a forehand with pressure. Sometimes they have time to do that because I struggle with power when I kick my serve . I know you lose power when there is more spin, but I lose too much power. Do you have a good tip for that? Generating good power on a kick serve?

[@MyTennisHQ]

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[@Apstenusrazbega]

100 000 is near!😲

[@JonLife]

I imagine it's just repetition so you get that muscle memory. On a recent serve practice I had, I was practicing my second serves and felt comfortable I was making them. Then I started incorporating first serves with the second. I started missing a lot more of my seconds. I feel like I lost the discipline with my second because my first is so different. You think that's just a mental or repetition thing? I appreciated the pressure situation you gave Winston at the end of the video.

[@MyTennisHQ]

Yes it is repetition but it is always having confidence you can make it under pressure. One can hit 100 serves in a row in without pressure but fall apart in pressure moments. It is easy to hide your insecurities under “well i hit a lot of serves it should go in”. You might learn more about your motion doing 10 serves under stress than 100 with no stress. Mix in both and you will get better

[@JonLife]

@@MyTennisHQ Wow didn't expect such a great reply! Appreciate the thoughts and I'll try to put it to work more!

[@benchan85]

Something that I have more trouble with is hitting a kick on the deuce side for a righty compared to the ad side. Maybe it’s just psychological 😅…any tips for that?

[@proshepherd]

Karue, I've always imagined the flight path of the ball coming off my strings (on a second serve) to be parallel with the ground, while simultaneously creating as much top spin as I can possibly produce. This means accelerating as fast or faster than a first serve. Would you consider this to be a good way to visualize it, or is this potentially problematic? I understand that this is in conflict with what you said about the trajectory being upwards, however, my rationale is that the contact point is already so far above the net that getting any type of lift is completely unnecessary. By leveling out the trajectory, It allows the server to continue to create spin with MPH.

[@lunchboxhedz292]

What strings are you using in your racket?

[@Stephen-jy3ie]

Road to 100k lets go! :)

[@MyTennisHQ]

So close!

[@philsch4]

What's your thought on using a slice serve as a second serve? It might not be as challenging to return as a good kick serve, but I think technically it is simpler and therefor can be executed with more confidence (and consistency). Aim for a body slice serve to challenge the returner a bit.

[@MyTennisHQ]

I don’t mind it at all. If you see it and you are consistent with it, go for it. It is important to find what works for you, we see the court in different ways.

[@vladimirgetselevich4704]

I am good with serving slice on Deuce side. But how to serve slices on Add side?

[@user-oj7co5wm8g]

Act as though you’re serving into the alley but cut the ball as you would with a slice serve and you end up down the T.

[@ldm2622]

the serve at 7/9 was proper as hell

[@darkjedi60]

When’s your cap available? Or have I missed my chance!

[@henriquecorreasousalima7382]

vc usa a empunhadura semi-western karue?

[@lawrencerud8695]

@myTennisHQ. Do you actually give lessons. I’m a 4.0 usta player in Southern California near the la/oc area. Been wanting to find someone to help me on the kick serve more and second serves. Serving into the sun etc.

[@vladimirgetselevich4704]

What to do if you feel confident on serving from the deuce side, but not confident serving from the add side? Sometimes feeling of a direction betrays be under the pressure on add side.

[@elchanclascocina]

Have had that issue too My advice would be more practice (no nuclear science there!) but coupled with positive mindset/psychology. Instead of thinking on the negatives of an ad side serve, think on the positives: you can close games from there, you can get back into deuce from there, you can exploit backhand from there, use a heavier kick, you name it. Couple of years ago deuce serve to me became automatic, wouldn't miss much from there but as timed passed I realized my serves even though they go in, they are easier to return from there. My wide slice is not as consistent as I wish, used to be better, the kick to the T is harder than kick wide in ad side and the slice to the T I just started practicing that so I miss a lot. In the ad side with most players (my level) you can just kick all the time and that is the safest serve. You can jam them with body serves, etc or you can do slice or kick to the T or flat anywhere. Now I prefer serving to the ad. So that's the mental part I'm talking about. ✌️

[@Alastairtheduke1]

One thing that helps me on second serves is to pretend this is the first serve of the match...how would I hit that, and the inputs get better because I can relax a little bit.

[@EP-yc2gu]

Eubanks into the Finals in Mallorca. Weve all seen the match between the two of you. Not saying it coulda been you, but…. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@johnfacada3893]

Is he really keeping his eyes on the ball? I see him looking ahead to see where the ball is going. All my shanks happen when I do not keep looking up after hitting the ball!

[@meinsouza]

still feels like he's hesitant to truly accelerate.... people don't realize that for the second serve, if you find the right angle (arm moves up more than moving forward like the first serve) you can swing your arm super fast and ball will hit serve area

[@MyTennisHQ]

100 %. Needs a lot of time to truly trust the acceleration

[@cb3719]

Looks like the toss is a bit of an issue. I think Winston is really throwing up the ball without any leg bend. Ideally you want knees to bend and legs go down at same time as arm goes up. His arm accelerates up just before the knee bend down, which makes him use more arm muscles (which are weaker than legs and inconsistent) than needed. Just a SLIGHT delay in toss will time w knee bend and be much more consistent methinks (?).

[@projectdevelopmentuploads6930]

Geez how can Winston play in a jacket? On a sunny day too! 😂

[@djaziztube]

Tip #1. Dont wear a big baggy hoodie that can interfere with your swing if you can avoid it.

[@joseppi4cinqua]

I really prefer this same video but without the 8 UTR involved. 13 UTR is so much more interesting or someone who’s maybe lower but obviously super talented. Just my 2 cents

[@moojoo1972]

What is the definition of a good second serve?

[@MyTennisHQ]

Depends on your level. For most people is just getting it in play. If it is going in consistently and it is not allowing your opponent to hurt you on the return, that is pretty good

[@MsSebbastian]

Federer (one of the bests second servers) finish with the racket in, close to his left leg… 🤔

[@lucascardoso6616]

esse tipo de conteudo eu preciso com legendas em pt-br pra poder espalhar sua palavra pra quem nao entende ingles KARUE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@rickblankenship7016]

I wonder which tip made the difference to Winston’s kick serve.

[@MyTennisHQ]

none of them unless Winston really spent time working. No tip will make a difference without the work behind it

[@sushispicelatte]

At recreational/amateur level, for most players, their weakest shot is 2nd serve… people don’t work on this shot enough

[@dertateossian]

Lets get 100k today!

[@silviolporto]

tambem queria ter uma aula com Karue, mas não tenho dinheiro nenhum para pagar

[@LTBlightthebeam]

The true heaving lifting Karue did was to get Winston to wear crew socks

[@987mikka]

Master Karue

[@BroknRobotMusic]

He's wearing socks! 😆

[@rfong02]

Winston so lucky. Get free coaching from karue

[@RS-on5zg]

I can't toss with a jacket on either.

[@watcher687]

Seems like staying sideways is the biggest factor.